Thread: Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!
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10-22-20 14:33 #1736
Posts: 318As I've stated before the Oxford & Astra Zeneca vaccine is looking on target to produce results, further good news today.
Regards the Brazilian man who sadly died, he was on a placebo so it has no connection with the vaccine.
This trial is looking like the worlds best hope & unlike dodgy Chinese & Russian vaccines, this is going through all the safety checks.
The big question is how quickly will the vaccine be made available to the public so that we can once again return to FKK World with a reasonable level of safety?
https://apple.news/APazsU-bfTUG7u6JNv6aGVA
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10-22-20 14:32 #1735
Posts: 717Cure (vaccine) is worse than the disease?
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l.../PIIS0140-6736(20) 32156-5/ fulltext.
"Cure worse than disease? Some Covid-19 vaccines may increase HIV risk, scientists warn".
https://www.rt.com/news/504224-covid...andidates-hiv/
A Covid1984 "vaccine" + people running around in FKK clubs fucking hookers! What a perfect combination!! LOL!
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10-22-20 14:23 #1734
Posts: 7321Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus [View Original Post]
I hear nothing from Hessen? NRW opened, artemins opened, Globe Zurich opened, but what about Hessen region? I hope palace and Oase will be able to operate again before it is too late for them to sustain the closure fee!
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10-22-20 14:15 #1733
Posts: 717Life almost normal in Sweden: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap28egc5wGI.
Herd immunity without chemicals from Big Pharma.
Where are the masses of dead people in Sweden? Where are they, CovIdiots and VaxxIdiots?
Pity that Sweden is run by hardcore feminists who don't allow FKK clubs. LOL!
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10-22-20 14:13 #1732
Posts: 2344Wondering how many of the handful of people on the "covid is no big deal" and "anti vaccine" camps actually have any type of science background or education. The way they select and process information definitely suggests a lack of ability or mental discipline to analyze data and integrate observations into their worldview with an objective, logical, and reasonable mind. It seems evident that there are a bunch of business and social science types talking about hard science and epidemiology. Nothing wrong with not being a person with a STEM background, society needs people of all backgrounds. But the fact that the poorly trained and misinformed are often the loudest seems about right as society is full of frauds who only work towards self-gain by riding on the backs of more capable and altruistic men.
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10-22-20 13:27 #1731
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
Are people expected to choose which one they want to take, or will they have not that much choice due to general availability? Given that a sizeable section of population are such anti vaxxers, their confusion will only grow if they are asked at the pharma counter "do you want the Pfizer or Astra or Moderna or JNJ vaccine". (I am leaving out the Chinese and Russian ones out for now).
Most companies I know in the US are working on the assumption that we will be with this Covid till at least Spring. Very few companies are making plans for bringing employees back to offices and many jobs may simply never come back to offices. Given how badly this has been mismanaged and how political it has become and how things have generally turned out to be worse than initially expected, I will wait for widespread vaccination to have happened and cases plummeting to extremely small numbers before celebrating we have beaten this. Perhaps that reflects my handle on this site.
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10-22-20 09:34 #1730
Posts: 537Originally Posted by Gino02 [View Original Post]
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10-22-20 07:21 #1729
Posts: 1138Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
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10-22-20 02:56 #1728
Posts: 22242Big, powerful, rich Bavaria is starting confining. Berlin, Koln, Frankfurt are closing on evening and night, LR is closing earlier. NL now prefer to confine for second wave, like Ireland, Wales, Liverpool, Catalunya after Madrid. Virus spreading everywhere at the moment and killing more than on Summer, with grippe also arriving. Facts and figures.
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10-22-20 01:18 #1727
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
As to your "Hammer Hammer" example, well, there's always going to be plenty of dumb people in the world. History testifies to that fact more than any other. Just look who managed to get elected president of the US in 2016, and I rest my case.
P.S. Reported cases of reinfection at this point are few and far between. It's possible that the vaccines will require a booster, like once a year or so.
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10-22-20 01:04 #1726
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by Gino02 [View Original Post]
As far as establishments looking out for their own interest, that is just code speak for discrimination. Even if they stopped Asian looking people, some non Asian male could come inside, infect the girls and other gents. Italy was already well infected for example. Your red tape issue does not fly because if the government is indeed corrupt and letting in infected people from abroad, it is only a matter of time before locals get infected, come inside the clubs and pass the infection. So, your discriminatory recommendation was not truly a solution to protect the club at any time.
With Sweden, you are saying they were right to not have done distancing from the very beginning. As far as I know, they never put any restrictions in place now or earlier. You seem to approve it. You even cited Nobel's as proof. So, I am wondering how you square this admiration for having zero restrictions from the very beginning and your prior advocation for stopping Asian looking people specifically at FKKs.
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10-21-20 23:17 #1725
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by McAdonis [View Original Post]
Also, I read that a few people who had confirmed infections earlier tested positive again. I don't know if that has any impact on the likelihood of this herd immunity at that 60-70% cumulative infection. If a guy who has been infected previously can be infected again, where was the immunity? Granted, he may be one of the very few. I know people who took flu shots still can catch a mild flu. Will Covid-19 be like that? Experts can chime in. Not my subject.
Also, I don't know if herd immunity is a concept that you will only know has been achieved looking backwards. For example, while 8 M+ confirmed infections have been reported in US, I read that the actual is several times higher, perhaps 5 to 10 times higher. But that 5 to 10 times is an estimation, not a precise number. So, do we have 40 million silently infected or is it 80 million at this moment? If herd immunity is achieved at 2/3 of population, say 220 M; does it mean when the confirmed positives are 1/10 of it, ie. 22 M then we have achieved herd immunity? Or is it achieved when we are at 44 M confirmed positives?
I don't believe anyone is going to ring a bell and announce "we achieved herd immunity, it is all clear now". In any case, it won't matter. The sign that most people will look for is declining daily and weekly positives. When those decline to very small numbers, people gain confidence and roam around, go on vacation and even FKKs, as they did in Europe. And if herd immunity is not truly reached and infections rise again, there will be hand wringing, a lot of back and forth mutual recriminations, and some amount of restrictions on mobility will happen; some of those restrictions may be imposed by higher ups, some are are voluntary. Some will be like HammerHammer "ignore the virus you fools, it is a nothingburger" types, and others will be "stay home and watch porn, print a hundred messages on ISG types."
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10-21-20 21:40 #1724
Posts: 717Originally Posted by SmokeLight [View Original Post]
"A source familiar with the matter told Reuters that the trial would have been suspended if the volunteer who died had received the COVID-19 vaccine, suggesting the person was part of the control group that was given a meningitis vaccine. ".
So this is what can happen when you give perfectly healthy people a completely unnecessary (in this case, meningitis) vaccine. Just wait until all the big pharma companies, their lobbyists, and corrupt health regulators, and incompetent politicians will unleash some barely tested CV19 "vaccine" onto the world.
More good news for the pro-vaxxers: https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSL4N2HC0QA.
Unless you're really old, very fat and have sever underlying illnesses, a better bet would be to hope for herd immunity.
Sweden has already almost achieved this. A stable amount of "cases" but very few deaths and hospitalisations. Hence: life is almost back to normal in Sweden, and if people in Germany hadn't panicked, things would have been back to normal here as well by now. FKKs would be running as usual, girls would not be unemployed and us men would be getting laid.
"Cases" are rising, case fatality rates are declining: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc.
Look at the number of Swedish "cases" which has been more or less stable for months, despite having a colder climate and an earlier start of the regular flu season than the rest of Europe: https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...pickerSort=asc.
German numbers: https://qap.ecdc.europa.eu/public/ex...19-mobile.html#global-overview-tab.
During the last 14 days; cases 74676, deaths 313, cases per 100 k people: 89,95 and deaths per 100 k people: hold onto your seats, a spectacular 0,38!
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10-21-20 21:38 #1723
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by SmokeLight [View Original Post]
"Back in spring 2020 they had predictions that vaccines will be ready by fall" -- whoever said that have never been credible. Of course I am not knowledgeable enough to know who is credible and who is not credible, as one needs to have even a modest knowledge to know who is an expert. But I fall back on the household names I know and have been believable, say Dr Sanjay Gupta, and I see who he respects, and say if that is Dr Fauci, then I go by what Dr Fauci thinks is a realistic expectation for vaccines. I simply respect Bill Gates, so that may be my personal problem but I respect him and he has invested billions of money in this area with purely an altruistic motive. All of those people never said a safe, effective vaccine is ready in 7 billion doses in 4 to 6 months.
Oh, there are certain politicians who have said vaccines will be ready before November 3. I personally think those politicians are even more clueless than I am, so there is that.
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10-21-20 21:17 #1722
Posts: 1138Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]