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  1. #1671

    It doesn't get more scientific than this:

    A new study, published on the WHO website and written by one of the world's leading epidemiologists, Paul Ioannidis:

    https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_....20.265892.pdf

    Page 7: "The median infection fatality rate across all 51 locations was 0. 27% (corrected 0.23%".

    Page 7: "For people 70 years old, the infection fatality rate of COVId-19 across 40 locations with available data ranged from 0.00% to 0.31% (median 0. 05% the corrected values were similar."

    In other words, for an average 99,77% (and even 99,95% if under 70) of the population, this "deadly" virus will not lead to death.

    So this is what we are shutting down the economy for? This is why FKK clubs are closed? This is why we are surrendering our civil liberties?

    This isn't just "fake news. " This comes from the WHO, just like the WHO link about the lack of effectiveness of masks that I posted a few weeks ago.

    Paul Ioannidis: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ioannidis.

    More facts that the usual scaremongers on this forum who put me on the ignore-list can chose to ignore. The silence and ignorance to new facts and studies here is deafening, but I guess most people (especially men) are ashamed to admit that they have been scared without reason and have been fooled.

    You think FKK clubs or the economy as a whole can financially survive another 3-6 months (until next spring) if a new closure order comes from the government? Keep on ignoring me, and soon FKKs will be closed forever, and even if they reopen, the economy and pension system will be so devastated after new lockdowns that you won't be able to afford traveling for Germany anymore.

  2. #1670
    EL: Yes very good idea, if 1 day you will catch the covid may be you will start to think it it is nit too late.

  3. #1669
    Quote Originally Posted by Palcon  [View Original Post]
    Unless you're a washing machine for the underworld. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-german-police.
    This article, and raid itself, was complete nonsense. Was thrown out by German courts and led to 0 convictions, all concerned were released and whole thing disturbing use of state power. Was discussed a lot in thread over past few years. Situation more complex at other clubs but anyone who knows Berlin and A can confirm. It is fact. As are new daily cases breaching 600-700 per day in Berlin this week. Court overturned (but on appeal) ban on closing restaurants at 2300. Will not change things at Artms. For the moment. Travelers must stay informed as all very fluid. Suggest we all move off personal attacks.

  4. #1668
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    For a guy who has kicked his sex addiction 2 years ago you appear in these forums a lot. Forums where guys (you claim who are all addicted) discuss sexual exploits and opportunities. You have over 3000 posts. That is a lot of time spent on sex / mongering forums for someone who has kicked an addition. I hope for your sake if you have kicked it you are happy.

    I have no idea who owns these clubs. But I know that basic economics does not pass anyone by. When overheads far exceed income and customers, that business ain't going to last long.
    With in legal frame, I am addicted to sex, I always will be addicted to sex!

    But one thing for real is that I lived among the best sex life in the world from the standpoint of beauty level of the stunner girls I had sex with and I am proud and grateful for my addiction to sex with young stunner beauties and my willingness to make all this come true into reality!

  5. #1667
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Yes, my bad. We could take them off while sitting.
    No mask at all on my 6 Austrian visits on this Summer and no mask on my many visits in Switzerland. I wonder how will be Globe now with mask. I will go only for my German orgasmic machine beauty.

  6. #1666
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    For a guy who has kicked his sex addiction 2 years ago you appear in these forums a lot. Forums where guys (you claim who are all addicted) discuss sexual exploits and opportunities. You have over 3000 posts. That is a lot of time spent on sex / mongering forums for someone who has kicked an addition. I hope for your sake if you have kicked it you are happy.

    I have no idea who owns these clubs. But I know that basic economics does not pass anyone by. When overheads far exceed income and customers, that business ain't going to last long.
    Sound more like frustration than to really switch off, then would be no need to write many posts daily, always about better not to go.

  7. #1665
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I have no idea who owns these clubs. But I know that basic economics does not pass anyone by. When overheads far exceed income and customers, that business ain't going to last long.
    Unless you're a washing machine for the underworld. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-german-police.

  8. #1664
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    Dear PayForIt,

    this stuff times will push them out of their sex addiction (fortunately took place for me in 2018)
    For a guy who has kicked his sex addiction 2 years ago you appear in these forums a lot. Forums where guys (you claim who are all addicted) discuss sexual exploits and opportunities. You have over 3000 posts. That is a lot of time spent on sex / mongering forums for someone who has kicked an addition. I hope for your sake if you have kicked it you are happy.

    I have no idea who owns these clubs. But I know that basic economics does not pass anyone by. When overheads far exceed income and customers, that business ain't going to last long.

  9. #1663
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    So very true. The plants were the original chemists. Animals used motion to flee danger and reproduce, but plants didn't have that: all they had was chemistry and that was how they survived. When animals arrived on the scene, plants used them to spread their seed, and co-evolved with them / us over millions of years. But in modern industrial civilization we are increasingly cut off from our botanical mentors and trillions of dollars are spent suppressing simple weeds -- part of it, as you suggest, is so that pharmaceutical companies can have their patents.

    Even more greatly ignored: the fungi. They are a separate Kingdom, preceding the plants and the animals. It was they who helped the plants crawl out of the seas and onto land. Today the fungi form an immense hidden network underground sharing nutrients and providing them to the forests above: the Internet of Nature. And they have even more to teach us humans directly, as shown in many clinical trials -- the ones that weren't suppressed by the powers-that-be.

    But if all the flora and fauna of the world were destroyed in a nuclear holocaust, the mushrooms would get to work rebuilding everything. Sure, at a superficial level it would set things back a few hundred million years; but a lot would have been learnt in the process. Next time: no Trump, no Coronavirus, no CBJs, none of that.

    "The garden of the world has no limits, except in your mind. " -- Jalāl ad-Din Muhammad Rumī
    As long as I don't have to deal with CBJs and fuck a condom in that new world, I am down.

  10. #1662
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    As mentioned before on this forum, all medicines are basically stolen from nature. Repackaged and tried to be sold for a premium!
    So very true. The plants were the original chemists. Animals used motion to flee danger and reproduce, but plants didn't have that: all they had was chemistry and that was how they survived. When animals arrived on the scene, plants used them to spread their seed, and co-evolved with them / us over millions of years. But in modern industrial civilization we are increasingly cut off from our botanical mentors and trillions of dollars are spent suppressing simple weeds -- part of it, as you suggest, is so that pharmaceutical companies can have their patents.

    Even more greatly ignored: the fungi. They are a separate Kingdom, preceding the plants and the animals. It was they who helped the plants crawl out of the seas and onto land. Today the fungi form an immense hidden network underground sharing nutrients and providing them to the forests above: the Internet of Nature. And they have even more to teach us humans directly, as shown in many clinical trials -- the ones that weren't suppressed by the powers-that-be.

    But if all the flora and fauna of the world were destroyed in a nuclear holocaust, the mushrooms would get to work rebuilding everything. Sure, at a superficial level it would set things back a few hundred million years; but a lot would have been learnt in the process. Next time: no Trump, no Coronavirus, no CBJs, none of that.

    "The garden of the world has no limits, except in your mind. " -- Jalāl ad-Din Muhammad Rumī
    Last edited by Polyamorist; 10-16-20 at 22:00. Reason: more sententious

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  12. #1660
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    No mask on July and August in Austria: at GT and Wellcum. No mask in Switzerland until yesterday. No mask when sitting and chatting with girls in Germany.
    Yes, my bad. We could take them off while sitting.

  13. #1659
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I was in a few clubs (in Austria). Everyone had masks on. All the time.
    No mask on July and August in Austria: at GT and Wellcum. No mask in Switzerland until yesterday. No mask when sitting and chatting with girls in Germany.

  14. #1658
    Quote Originally Posted by DioRetz  [View Original Post]
    I think you mean well but the closure has nothing to do with sex. The Dutch government would allow the wellness and the rooms to stay open. But it is the bar and restaurant that need to close down like all restaurants and bars in Holland. That is simply not a manageable situation. But in general you do have a good point. Closed areas with a lot of people with a lot of interaction are the perfect situation for super spreaders. So, just plain luck that no massive outbreak occurred in SS. What are the odds. SS just was lucky. My guess now is that the new measures will not improve the situation in Holland. The spreading started to increase dramatically in Amsterdam in July and has gone too far now. It won't be stopped without a total lockdown. Probably in two or four weeks. Lasting till Christmas. I hope I will be wrong but I was right the last few months.
    I really admire the authorities in Europe with the opening of sex establishments. If they were backward they could have used this pandemic to completely shut down the brothels and FKKs for all time. However, they are civilized and are aware of the need for sex relief so allowed sex clubs to reopen even though covid 19 was not eliminated. This augurs well for the future of our hobby and the well being of men and women in such countries as the Netherlands, Germany, Austria and Switzerland.

  15. #1657
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Door handles. If we had only done the sensible thing and stayed in the forests like the Amazonian Indians there would be no door handles. I'm starting to think civilization was a mistake. The evidence is piling up like an overflowing garbage tip, just teetering and teetering. We should have figured this out already in 2019 but hindsight is 2020.
    In addition, primitive tropical tribes were living in a constant FKK environment! LOL.

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