Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Pistons]

It will go back up to around 50 after or before q2 report. And then after computex I predict a further push upwards. I also think it could reach 88-90 $ this year instead of just 83.81 $. But we will see. Next year should be even better with Falcon Shores NPU launch and income starting to pour in more from IFS with the 18 A node. And Microsoft will probably increase their orders, though I wonder if Elons case against Open AI will have an impact on that.

It also wouldn't surprise me if they land deals with someone like Amazon or at least Oracle to make custom chips for them as well. Maybe even for Alphabet too.

[Pistons]

Funny right? I looked back at the prices on the date of his post compared to today.

Dec 26th, 2023: Intel $50.50, S&P $5137.

March 1st, 2024: Intel $43.85 (-13% S&P $4774 (+7%.).

That's a Net -20%.

How come my etoro account say that I bought in on Nov. 15th, and then did a smaller increase on Jan 3rd?

I think you just got to look further back in this thread. Not even going to bother doing it for you. But I did mention it here. Just for the sake of not needing to upload pictures. Today was also a good day for the stock. So your math is off. But I knew from even before the last earnings report that it would fall for awhile. Yet long term it will go back up. Still, I'm not too scared, and risking future gains on just a highly likely 2 months maximum dip is just gambling as I don't want to trade this year.

https://finbold.com/ai-predicts-inte...r-end-of-2024/

If you wanted to know my average on the stock, since you are such a nerd, it's 41.82 $ and right now the stock price is at 45.61 $.

That's a 9. 06% gain. But like I mentionned, I knew about this dip.

[Escape Artist]

How is Intel going for you these days? I'm sure you switched to Nvidia but conveniently just forgot to tell us. Isn't that right?

Funny right? I looked back at the prices on the date of his post compared to today.

Dec 26th, 2023: Intel $50.50, S&P $5137.

March 1st, 2024: Intel $43.85 (-13% S&P $4774 (+7%.).

That's a Net -20%.

Anyway, the whole point however remains, what a silly show of insecurity to come out bragging about short unrealized gains. I remember buying my first stocks in Delta after the September 11th, airline sector crash in 2001 (no pun intended.). ETrade was still a big thing and I made like 20% on an initial rebound. I made a thousand bucks in my little $5000 account. Then I quickly learned the difference between actual profits versus unrealized gains. But I was like 20 years old, not middle aged thinking I'm some investing genius.

I mean it kind of shows with the recent post that tried to explain the current poor performance. It's as if he didn't factor that geopolitics would heavily impact stock performance.

The Taiwan invasion prediction was especially eye rolling for me. I mean why even bother predicting it now when the single biggest predicting factor comes this year on US Election day. Trump wins, China invades during his term. Trump loses, China keeps the peace, not risking US involvement, a conflict where they stand no chance. As much as they've developed their military, particularly that Navy, they still stand no chance if US backs Taiwan. I mean, Taiwan can hold their own for a while but add 3 US Nimitz class carriers already in the Pacific with a couple next generation super carriers on the way and China's military already stands no chance. Japan just remilitarized and Phillipines all but agreed to serve as a staging ground and the only way China is foolish enough to risk getting thoroughly exposed on the world stage is with a Trump presidency that will not intervene.

America may have withdrawn from atypical warfare conflicts but we don't lose against world powers, something like 5-0 in all time match ups plus the Cold War. Maybe 6 if you count beating up on French and Indians. China knows that a Trump presidency is their only window to take Taiwan.

I'm just telling mu fellow mongers here how to make some extra cash to spend on hot women in 2024,2025 or even 2026.

If you'd bought Intel when I did a month or so ago, you'd be up about 22% now. And that's just the beginning. No hate, just pure stock analysis for those who like money, and don't hate it.

[Escape Artist]

I am sure it is strange. For what it is worth I bought and sold two or three times and yes it was like throwing darts at a dart board. I think I am done with it. I realize yesterday I said I might buy back at 42 and then it went from 43 to 44. I am just the guy who wants to be long who gets cold feet, sells while it is up and then buys back lower. I do call it gambling at least for me. I am not a trader. I did not make anymore money than an index fund would have over the same period but at least I didn't loose money in this case.

Fair enough. That's why I keep a few brokerages open, each with a different style. 401 K / backdoor roth accounts stays safe with S&P plus a few blue chips to weight towards my personal risks, does slightly better than S&P returns. Best account is a rotation of top 10 S&P and established companies in whatever is the trending sector. That account is by far the best performing across it's lifespan. Then I have probably way too much in a Robinhood account where I go long on a bunch of growth, undervalued, and value stocks while swing trading the more volatile ones. Overall net negative 20 percent on that one but am in a whole lot better than in 2022 where I was down like almost 60%. That account's finally well positioned after consolidating into companies that are finally becoming GAAP profitable / overcame whatever bad PR.

[Pistons]

Been thinking of doing the swing trade on intel myself. It's been like a clockwork. First you see the top, then the 2nd time it goes there you sell, and buy again on the 2nd dip level. 3rd top or 3rd dip is riskier because that's when it may break through. Have a feeling it's all run by a few trading robots, and other stocks have the same history. But I agree with the dart idea.

Anyway, the stock is undervalued compared to the competition, so that makes it a buy for me.

Sure you can it's a long, just because it will take a couple of years to reach it's potential. But it won't go from 180 be to 1. 8 t in a year either. Little by little, and currently it's on track according to the AI stock oracle. It predicted a dip after last earnings report.

[BobNSuzy]

What a strange swing trade. Intel maxed out at 44.9 in the month between purchase price and sale. Seems to me that Intel is more of a longer play at this point rather than a max, 3. 5% short swing if bought at the top. I mean, I personally cut my position in half, taking 2022-2023 profits to play with more interesting swing options while awaiting Intel to get their pipeline up and running. But swing trading Intel in this current environment, an awkward play for sure. It's seems like we're just playing darts blindfolded.

I am sure it is strange. For what it is worth I bought and sold two or three times and yes it was like throwing darts at a dart board. I think I am done with it. I realize yesterday I said I might buy back at 42 and then it went from 43 to 44. I am just the guy who wants to be long who gets cold feet, sells while it is up and then buys back lower. I do call it gambling at least for me. I am not a trader. I did not make anymore money than an index fund would have over the same period but at least I didn't loose money in this case.

[Sirioja]

Well, if you had lived in Russia, would you have publicly done a Navalny?

Some people loose grasp of context.

Many people for him yesterday, despite Putin, because he means hope. Millions of Russians, this is time for your new revolution and to shoot Putin, when then, future will be better for You and your children, rather than sending them to die at war, when Ukrainians are your brothers with Ukrainian Russian babies.

[Escape Artist]

Bought some Intel at 43.40 yesterday. I had sold. I have no idea what it does from here. If that is passive aggressive I don't care, LOL.

It sounds like it makes sense to me. I am out of Intel right now. I may buy back around $42. I made enough to go to FKK club this year. That isn't really how I look at it but it is fun to say it that way. Thanks for the thoughts on it.

What a strange swing trade. Intel maxed out at 44.9 in the month between purchase price and sale. Seems to me that Intel is more of a longer play at this point rather than a max, 3. 5% short swing if bought at the top. I mean, I personally cut my position in half, taking 2022-2023 profits to play with more interesting swing options while awaiting Intel to get their pipeline up and running. But swing trading Intel in this current environment, an awkward play for sure. It's seems like we're just playing darts blindfolded.

[BobNSuzy]

It is pretty simple. If Intel stock had gone to 100, would the US and German governments been as keen to hand put 10 b incentives each to Intel foundries?

Without these grants (tax incentives, loans etc) Intel cannot compete with Tsmc and Samsung who has received simillair incentives from the Taiwanese and Korean governments for over a decade now.

But once the grants are in place, fair valuation will come. But not before. The US grant seems close. The German one might be further off for now. Really hard to say.

It sounds like it makes sense to me. I am out of Intel right now. I may buy back around $42. I made enough to go to FKK club this year. That isn't really how I look at it but it is fun to say it that way. Thanks for the thoughts on it.

[Pistons]

How is Intel going for you these days? I'm sure you switched to Nvidia but conveniently just forgot to tell us. Isn't that right?

Nope. Probably should have on the last day of 23, but staying long.

You can compare Intel financials to AMD if you want. See which one is undervalued compared to the other one, and by how much.

It is either my assumptions about chips money being true, or some wall street telegram group of big traders being flock animals.

Could also be a mix.

Could also be that the taiwanese americans all over us hardware tech is kinda grouping up against Intel. Due to the fear of big China. They know tsmc is their bet on having usa save them. But China will attack if you listen to Xi. Probably won't be before 2027 tho.

[Pistons]

Bought some Intel at 43.40 yesterday. I had sold. I have no idea what it does from here. If that is passive aggressive I don't care, LOL.

It is pretty simple. If Intel stock had gone to 100, would the US and German governments been as keen to hand put 10 b incentives each to Intel foundries?

Without these grants (tax incentives, loans etc) Intel cannot compete with Tsmc and Samsung who has received simillair incentives from the Taiwanese and Korean governments for over a decade now.

But once the grants are in place, fair valuation will come. But not before. The US grant seems close. The German one might be further off for now. Really hard to say.

[Ararat]

AI algorithm says Intel will end the year at around 85 $ but won't start to pick up before in a month or two.

But I'm not selling or buying due to taxes this year. Sure supermicro or something would have been better at the start of the year. Not that it's even listed, but you can still buy I guess. Amd is a tulip stock. Has nothing on Intel, and lacks a foundry segment. Plus massively overvalued compared to Intel. Nvidia probably, but then I'd have to trade it.

How is Intel going for you these days? I'm sure you switched to Nvidia but conveniently just forgot to tell us. Isn't that right?

[Pistons]

Good buy for stock with near-blue chip history in a high demand sector.

But Intel's recent drop reinforces the original criticism of OP's boasting of short term gains over one month. Chip companies doing well but intel sinks. Case in point. Never said Intel was a bad investment.

AI algorithm says Intel will end the year at around 85 $ but won't start to pick up before in a month or two.

But I'm not selling or buying due to taxes this year. Sure supermicro or something would have been better at the start of the year. Not that it's even listed, but you can still buy I guess. Amd is a tulip stock. Has nothing on Intel, and lacks a foundry segment. Plus massively overvalued compared to Intel. Nvidia probably, but then I'd have to trade it.

[Pistons]

It doesn't change that Russians support the attack on Ukraine and they do support Putin. He would win easily even if the elections were fair.

Well, if you had lived in Russia, would you have publicly done a Navalny?

Some people loose grasp of context.

[Sirioja]

It doesn't change that Russians support the attack on Ukraine and they do support Putin. He would win easily even if the elections were fair.

Problem is Russians are so stupid to believe and follow Putin, when millions don't support war versus their brothers Ukrainians. I would say same for Chinese and US following Trump.