Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Mursenary]

Notwithstanding the Nordic model and some of their pc stuff, the Swedes are far from repressed when it comes to sex. I've spent enough time with Swedish students to know that.

Yeah, somehow in conversation, social rigidness turned into sexual repression, didn't mean that. I just meant that the culture and customs as a whole doesn't breed an environment of sexual expression.

[Samplerr]

Upon inspecting that, societies like Japan, Sweden, Singapore, etc are pretty sexually repressed but also very peaceful. Most muslim states have low incidence of violent crime but are obviously very sexually repressed.

Notwithstanding the Nordic model and some of their pc stuff, the Swedes are far from repressed when it comes to sex. I've spent enough time with Swedish students to know that.

[Pessimist]

I feel somewhat uneasy reading posts about such low level statistics of people having sex per year. I need sex every day. Except maybe bad days when I am under the weather or someone is sick in the family. I would self describe as a workaholic, yet regardless if I work 12 or 14 hours or more, I want sex. Do it before bedtime, in the morning, before or after lunch, doesn't matter, I want it once a day. Like eating, breathing, exercising, laughing, sleeping, whatever you do as a living organism. And I am not trivializing sex, I view it as a soulful, healthy, and always respectful connection between me and my delightful girl du jour. If I can afford to pay her, isn't it wonderful for both of us? Do I need to report statistics how many times I sleep or eat per year? I just don't get it why it's so popular to alienate sex from a common daily experience.

Yes, porn helps, but it cannot substitute a warm, hot body of a beautiful girl, the smell of her hair, perfume, her hand on my balls, do I need to go on? Occasionally watching porn is fine, but not as adequate replacement of a normal intercourse. I think it's a dangerous misconception which, regrettably, has already made itself firmly into mainstream of today's life. Watching porn together with a partner is, of course, a completely different story.

I am w / you on the porn substitution. A real woman and her touch and smell simply cannot be substituted by masturbation coupled w / porn. That does not mean I have not used masturbation or porn, but it is a poor, poor substitution and highly unsatisfactory.

As for frequency of sexual activity, I would also wish healthy, frequent sexual activity for everyone but I doubt that reality matches that wish.

1. For a large number of people, sex is simply not that important. First, I think for women it is clearly a lot less important than for men. Everything else being equal (age / health / worries about making money etc), a man would want good sex but also frequent sex and may want to keep having it many times but a woman is likely to be satisfied with quality sex that is less frequent. Perhaps women place a lot more importance on quality while men want both and are willing to compromise on quality to make up in quantity. Many rich men become playboys but there are very few stories of rich women being playgirls and fucking dozens of new young studs weekly.

If there was a FKK catering to women where women can go and fuck naked men parading around in the club as we do w / girls, it is very doubtful that there are sufficient # of women in the world to support dozens of such clubs as currently exist. Assume for a minute there is no social taboo, women are free and have enough money, etc. Even with all those, the chance that women would fly from around the world, drive from France every weekend as our friend does, to fuck 5 guys a day for 6 days in a row is close to zero. And in fact, money permitting, it is easy for women to do it. We men can't finish so many times a day but women have no such issues. But my firm belief is that there will be no demand for such clubs from women.

2. There is a mismatch between people needing / wanting sex and those able to have sex. For example, there may be many horny men who can physically have sex, willing to compromise on looks and other things, and would have sex twice a day 365 days a year, but don't have a willing partner, but the guy does not have skills and game / partner / money / other things to make that sex happen. On the other hand, there will be many people who have money and have the means, have a sexual partner / relationship but don't have sexual drive to have sex frequently. If one partner is interested in sex then that partner would be sexually frustrated, and if the partner is also equally disinterested then it will be a sexless marriage / relationship.

3. With age / health / job stress / other reasons / sexual desire simply dies / wanes for many people.

People, especially mongers here, compute mental averages with the thinking they are in the middle. That is a huge mistake when it comes to sex and ISG members. We take weeks off, fly across the world, spend several grand a year, just for sex. We are probably 0. 00001% of world's men in that regard. To us sex is very important. To think our situation is representative of an average adult in the world on the topic of sex is the biggest mistake we can make, just as Bill Gates thinking everyone in the world is as secure about money as he is.

[Mursenary]

Sex gives peace of mind while lack of sex makes men irritable, edgy and aggressive. Men who have regular sex want peace. Men with high testosterone and full balls who do not enjoy coitus initiate wars. Very religious countries where intimate physical interaction between men and women is disapproved of are the most warlike countries.

Kings and the oligarchy class have the power to start wars, not the masses, and those powerful people are hardly ever the sexually repressed. Kings, emperors, sultans, senators, etc have their balls drained on a regular basis so built up sexual tension is ever hardly their reasoning for starting wars.

If anything sexual (although it is more likely to due to poverty and education), a better measuring stick for your thesis is internal violence within societies as that reflects the mental state of the masses. Upon inspecting that, societies like Japan, Sweden, Singapore, etc are pretty sexually repressed but also very peaceful. Most muslim states have low incidence of violent crime but are obviously very sexually repressed.

https://www.nationmaster.com/country...ountries/Crime

As previously stated, numerous countries with open sex attitudes have pretty high violent crime rates, Brazil, Colombia, basically nearly all south and central American countries.

[Mursenary]

The Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Vikings and Romans were very warlike. Early in their civilizations they were very constrained and rigid towards sex; however, with growing wealth from their military conquests they then became very liberal towards sex with orgies, etc. thus becoming more peaceful resulting in vulnerability to outside attack ending in declining empires.

While it fits your narrative, there is nothing in historic literature that backs your claims that those societies were sexually constrained and rigid early in their histories. Feel free to provide source so I can educate myself.

Middle ages England and Europe e. g. Spain during the inquisition were very strict religious societies with much sexual repression resulting in numerous military conquests that led to world domination. With the decline of religion in those countries and sexual liberation England and Europe's place in the world has declined significantly. The US was once a very religious and sexually repressed country and rose to dominate the world militarily. The powers that be in the US are seeking to continue sexual repression in order to have a military edge over its enemies.

Decline and rise more easily explained by events of War War 2. Besides, the American attitude towards sex has always been and still is relatively repressed and the loosening of that attitude from the 20's through the 90's only correlated to a rise to power, not a decline. From Puritan America to the Great Depression, America was not a superpower and was even more sexually repressed. European collapse due to tens of millions of lost lives, infrastructure destruction, and political musical chairs better explained Europe's decline rather than, "sexual liberation equals less war. "

[HammerTime96]

Here is what the WHO has to say about face masks: (download the. Pdf file on the lefthand side).

https://www.who.int/publications/i/i...l-coronavirus-(2019-ncov) -outbreak.

Quote from page 6: "Results from cluster randomized controlled trials on the use of masks among young adults living in university residences in the United States of America indicate that face masks may reduce the rate of influenza-like illness, but showed no impact on risk of laboratory-confirmed influenza. (62,63) At present, there is no direct evidence (from studies on COVID- 19 and in healthy people in the community) on the effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people in the community to prevent infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19. ".

So with "no direct evidence" on 'the effectiveness of universal masking of healthy people," the politicians and media continue to act like dictators and keep in insisting everybody wears a face diaper with all possible negative side effects, which include self-contamination!

Quote from page 8:

"Potential harms / disadvantages.

The likely disadvantages of the use of mask by healthy people in the general public include:

• potential increased risk of self-contamination due to the manipulation of a face mask and subsequently touching eyes with contaminated hands;(48,49).

• potential self-contamination that can occur if non- medical masks are not changed when wet or soiled. This can create favourable conditions for microorganism to amplify;.

• potential headache and / or breathing difficulties, depending on type of mask used;.

• potential development of facial skin lesions, irritant dermatitis or worsening acne, when used frequently for long hours;(50).

• difficulty with communicating clearly;.

• potential discomfort;(41,51).

• a false sense of security, leading to potentially lower.

Adherence to other critical preventive measures such as.

Physical distancing and hand hygiene;.

• poor compliance with mask wearing, in particular by.

Young children;.

• waste management issues; improper mask disposal.

Leading to increased litter in public places, risk of.

Contamination to street cleaners and environment hazard;.

• difficulty communicating for deaf persons who rely on.

Lip reading;.

• disadvantages for or difficulty wearing them, especially.

For children, developmentally challenged persons, those with mental illness, elderly persons with cognitive impairment, those with asthma or chronic respiratory or breathing problems, those who have had facial trauma or recent oral maxillofacial surgery, and those living in hot and humid environments.

[Sirioja]

Sex gives peace of mind while lack of sex makes men irritable, edgy and aggressive. Men who have regular sex want peace. Men with high testosterone and full balls who do not enjoy coitus initiate wars. Very religious countries where intimate physical interaction between men and women is disapproved of are the most warlike countries.

In FKK land, some guys develop such frustration and jealousy from their visits, becoming really mad. Some guys paying time with girls to bullshit rather than fucking. One of my very regular for years telling me: easy finishing in 5 mn, but boring me obsessed by you for rest of time. She decided to refuse to repeat.

[Turgid]

On the flip side, my immediate thoughts went to Warring cultures like the Romans, Persians, and Vikings where sex was rampant. Or Brazil being one of the most violent countries in the world yet attitudes on sex being one of the most liberal in the world.

The Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Vikings and Romans were very warlike. Early in their civilizations they were very constrained and rigid towards sex; however, with growing wealth from their military conquests they then became very liberal towards sex with orgies, etc. thus becoming more peaceful resulting in vulnerability to outside attack ending in declining empires. Middle ages England and Europe e. g. Spain during the inquisition were very strict religious societies with much sexual repression resulting in numerous military conquests that led to world domination. With the decline of religion in those countries and sexual liberation England and Europe's place in the world has declined significantly. The US was once a very religious and sexually repressed country and rose to dominate the world militarily. The powers that be in the US are seeking to continue sexual repression in order to have a military edge over its enemies. Is the influence of porn defeating their goal? Masturbation to porn releases sexual tension to a much greater extent than masturbation prior to porn. I have done a survey on ISG and many responders prefer to masturbate to pornhub or chaturbate, etc. rather than fuck an ordinary woman.

[Mursenary]

So, I come back to my original question: How can any publication claim to rank countries by sexual activity when there is no accurate data available about incidence of sex across the entire population in even the advanced countries let alone all 200 odd countries in the world?

Basically, it's not to be taken as a point of scientific reference. No need to scrutinize in such depth.

[Smoke Light]

I feel somewhat uneasy reading posts about such low level statistics of people having sex per year. I need sex every day. Except maybe bad days when I am under the weather or someone is sick in the family. I would self describe as a workaholic, yet regardless if I work 12 or 14 hours or more, I want sex. Do it before bedtime, in the morning, before or after lunch, doesn't matter, I want it once a day. Like eating, breathing, exercising, laughing, sleeping, whatever you do as a living organism. And I am not trivializing sex, I view it as a soulful, healthy, and always respectful connection between me and my delightful girl du jour. If I can afford to pay her, isn't it wonderful for both of us? Do I need to report statistics how many times I sleep or eat per year? I just don't get it why it's so popular to alienate sex from a common daily experience.

Yes, porn helps, but it cannot substitute a warm, hot body of a beautiful girl, the smell of her hair, perfume, her hand on my balls, do I need to go on? Occasionally watching porn is fine, but not as adequate replacement of a normal intercourse. I think it's a dangerous misconception which, regrettably, has already made itself firmly into mainstream of today's life. Watching porn together with a partner is, of course, a completely different story. Once I had great time watching Tinto Brass's Paprika with a lovely girl in my hotel room in Bonn, ordering pizza, drinking wine, convincing her to stay overnight and eating her pussy at 4 o'clock in the morning while she watched lesbian porn on her phone, then making her cum hard, pushing me away from her sweet juicy fuckhole. When am I alone, I prefer genuine, unscripted amateur porn, capturing glimpses of sincere lust between the partners.

Staying in touch and chatting with FKK girls helps me to cope with my basic needs in these horrible times. They are my angels, my lovely fuck mates, my buddies and friends. I love them. My last FKK visit was New Years Eve in January. I had 5 rooms and filled the rubber each and every time, all 5 standard 30-minute rooms! These ugly stats on sex per year per month per country per men per women sicken me. I wish all people loved sex as a healthy gift from nature without prejudice and poison of fictitious societal "norms".

[ExpatLover]

EL: including the new promising virus covid 19 which seems to be a very good offer.

[Pessimist]

The 80-120 times per year range amongst developed nations is a number that I've seen quoted quite often; but like you, I have always been skeptical. It does seem like a lot as a median average but perhaps more believable as a mean average. When I was 18, I had a live-in girlfriend and we definitely had sex 300+ days in that year with many two or three a-days that brought the number to well over 365 in one year. At 25, my fianc and I were at 3-4 times per week, again with multiple 2 and 3-a-days. If the average couple has sex once per week (about 50-60 per year,) perhaps the average numbers of 18-30 year old childless couples having sex 4-5 times per week bring up the mean to 2-3 times per week? That would make the 80-90 times per year average a little more believable.

Also, remember you are looking from your point of view, some one who appears to be educated and might have spent a large part of your youth getting your education and career building. That population generally spends more time in a stressed state and makes less time for sex. Carefree young couples generally spend more time in the sack than the high achieving, career-driven pair.

But you are right, polling for questions like these has to be taken with a great degree of doubt. It reminds me of polling for penis size. I imagine guys inflate their numbers. And as far as I can tell, women are terrible at gauging measurement of penis size. From their point of view (hopefully waist height) and to great benefit to our ego's, I think it looks bigger to them than it really is. A girl once quoted 18 cm for me and I had to grab her 20 cm heels for comparison to show her that I fell several cm short of that mark, hah!

My first objection wit that article is that it claims to be ranking nations across the world re: sexual activity. To rank 200 countries, one would need to have data about all 200 nations; also, the data is to be collected consistently, using comparable methods / comparable ways of sampling / standard error etc. What is the chance that this article's authors and their data was truly worldwide in that sense? Is it even possible to collect such data in a huge number of countries where these questions are taboo?

At best, these types of ranks can be done for a few western countries. I regard these articles as being more for fun. I of course enjoy reading them. But they should never be treated as any sort of definitive reference points on sexual activity.

Secondly, look at a few other links. These are from quick Google searches, I am not vouching for any of their authenticity.

https://www.healthline.com/health/ba...uples-have-sex#The-Average.

The link above says "According to David Schnarch, PhD, through a study conducted with more than 20,000 couples, he found that only 26% of couples are hitting the once-a-week mark, with the majority of the respondents reporting sex only once or twice a month, or less!

Mind you, these are couples. It may be even less (or more; I don't know) for singles. For example, a single person w / o a partner may not have sex for several months or even years. I would not be shocked if many middle aged or older single women are totally inactive sexually. Some single men may be playing the field or seeing pros, but many single men may also be quite inactive. I had roommates in college and grad school who were quite shy and had almost no sex for many months or years. None. I know these people exist, and these were actually educated guys who were pleasant and nice, just shy or had no game.

To be measuring this across the population, it has to be a true sample: 18 years to 85 years, across all types of health conditions, ethnicity, income levels, etc. (healthy young people to older, obese, handicapped, ailing, homeless to what not). Limiting such a study to just couples in the 30-55 age bracket for example gives bogus interpretation.

https://flowingdata.com/2017/07/03/married-people-sex/

This above link says 25% of all adults have sex 2 or more times a week. So, 75% are at less than twice a week. 18% did not have sex even once in prior 12 months, 10% had sex just once or twice in the past 12 M, 13% had sex once per month. That is, 41% of all adults had sex in the range of 0 to 12 times a year.

If you look at the age groups, 64% of the 55 and older are in that 0 to 12 times a year range. If you look at the same stats by marital status, 48% of separated people, 50% of divorced people, 86% of widowed people have sex anywhere from 0 to 12 times a year. The most sexually active people are the married people and never married people. The last chart in the article shows sexually activity is higher if a person is married vs never married in each age group.

It is obvious from those numbers in the above link that sexual activity decreases with age. So, as western societies age, it would make sense that people are sexually less active than they were 40 or 50 years ago.

I think the data for this link above is US survey; I have no idea if this applies to other countries.

When I google for sexual activity in third world countries, the amount of data that can be pulled up is scant. Which was my original point.

Here is one link:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...2.2009.02283.x

"Global Better Sex Survey sexual aspirations and unmet needs of men and women from Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, and Thailand.

Methods:8195; To qualify, respondents must have had sexual intercourse at least once in the past 12 months. Women must have had heterosexual intercourse. Data were weighted by population size between countries.

Results:8195; Of 3538 Asian respondents (1776 men and 1762 women), 52% were aged <40 years, 40% were aged 40–59 years, and 8% were aged ≥60 years. The majority were married or in a relationship. Men and women reported having sexual intercourse 5. 1 and 4. 0 times monthly, respectively. ".

So, it seems this survey was (in multiple Asian countries, but developed Asian countries in fact) limited the survey to people who had sex at least once in the last year. Of those, the average activity is 5. 1 times a month for men and 4 times for women. That is 61 times for men, 48 for women. Neither one comes to the 100 number, and remember this is of those people who had sex at least once. In the flowing data study, nearly a fifth of adults did not have sex even once in the last 12 M. Plus, I don't know how honestly this link above in the Asian study balanced the population to include all the other factors (people with bad health, low income, etc).

India has a billion people and China has a billion (actually, more like 1. 35 to 1. 4 B each). Together, they make 36% of world population. I could not find any good links on how often people have sex in those nations, across all sections of population. You can find some specific sub-sections of population but not the entire population.

So, I come back to my original question: How can any publication claim to rank countries by sexual activity when there is no accurate data available about incidence of sex across the entire population in even the advanced countries let alone all 200 odd countries in the world?

[Pistons]

Interestingly the legalization of P6 has been voiced as a a positive in regards to reducing sex repression. I haven't read studies regarding this, but the idea is floating around. So there is something moving in regards to our hobby.

We just have to tackle the feminists main argument first: abusive pimps. And this can be hard to track. But this is also why I am a supporter of blockchain money. It would be over and out for pimps. And also for the feminists main argument. Thus opening up for p6 in a lot more countries.

And Amnesty International is an avid supporter of p6 too as it even can empower poor women.

[Pistons]

I don't know what the reason for sexual repression levels are in certain countries, but I have a strong feeling that these things could change with the right social programming through media channels and schooling system.

Actually it seems my country has some PR companies working on improving these things. And I bet more countries might be looking at the same thing.

I also lived in one of the Asian countries, and discussed the topic with a lot of people there. Male and female. And I got a sense that the reasons were a bit different in Asia. At least seemingly it seemed to be highly work related to long working days. But one may also argue that is part of the reason also in some European countries.

If people are more at home, they will generally fuck more.

[Mursenary]

The ten countries that are having the least sex are the ten countries that are watching the most porn. That plus the absence of religion have contributed to their most peaceful outlook. Therefore pornhub is doing its part to contribute to world peace.

While those countries are indeed rather secular, the top 8 seem to also be very socially stuffy. Hong Kong, Singapore, and Japan are easily the most socially rigid and judgmental Asian societies. The Nordic countries and and the Swiss seem to be the most socially rigid of the Europeans. It seems to me that the top countries are all socially repressed, supporting the fact religion is hardly the only oppressive institution.