Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Sirioja]

Sex gives peace of mind while lack of sex makes men irritable, edgy and aggressive. Men who have regular sex want peace. Men with high testosterone and full balls who do not enjoy coitus initiate wars. Very religious countries where intimate physical interaction between men and women is disapproved of are the most warlike countries.

In FKK land, some guys develop such frustration and jealousy from their visits, becoming really mad. Some guys paying time with girls to bullshit rather than fucking. One of my very regular for years telling me: easy finishing in 5 mn, but boring me obsessed by you for rest of time. She decided to refuse to repeat.

[Turgid]

On the flip side, my immediate thoughts went to Warring cultures like the Romans, Persians, and Vikings where sex was rampant. Or Brazil being one of the most violent countries in the world yet attitudes on sex being one of the most liberal in the world.

The Assyrians, Persians, Greeks, Vikings and Romans were very warlike. Early in their civilizations they were very constrained and rigid towards sex; however, with growing wealth from their military conquests they then became very liberal towards sex with orgies, etc. thus becoming more peaceful resulting in vulnerability to outside attack ending in declining empires. Middle ages England and Europe e. g. Spain during the inquisition were very strict religious societies with much sexual repression resulting in numerous military conquests that led to world domination. With the decline of religion in those countries and sexual liberation England and Europe's place in the world has declined significantly. The US was once a very religious and sexually repressed country and rose to dominate the world militarily. The powers that be in the US are seeking to continue sexual repression in order to have a military edge over its enemies. Is the influence of porn defeating their goal? Masturbation to porn releases sexual tension to a much greater extent than masturbation prior to porn. I have done a survey on ISG and many responders prefer to masturbate to pornhub or chaturbate, etc. rather than fuck an ordinary woman.

[Mursenary]

So, I come back to my original question: How can any publication claim to rank countries by sexual activity when there is no accurate data available about incidence of sex across the entire population in even the advanced countries let alone all 200 odd countries in the world?

Basically, it's not to be taken as a point of scientific reference. No need to scrutinize in such depth.

[Smoke Light]

I feel somewhat uneasy reading posts about such low level statistics of people having sex per year. I need sex every day. Except maybe bad days when I am under the weather or someone is sick in the family. I would self describe as a workaholic, yet regardless if I work 12 or 14 hours or more, I want sex. Do it before bedtime, in the morning, before or after lunch, doesn't matter, I want it once a day. Like eating, breathing, exercising, laughing, sleeping, whatever you do as a living organism. And I am not trivializing sex, I view it as a soulful, healthy, and always respectful connection between me and my delightful girl du jour. If I can afford to pay her, isn't it wonderful for both of us? Do I need to report statistics how many times I sleep or eat per year? I just don't get it why it's so popular to alienate sex from a common daily experience.

Yes, porn helps, but it cannot substitute a warm, hot body of a beautiful girl, the smell of her hair, perfume, her hand on my balls, do I need to go on? Occasionally watching porn is fine, but not as adequate replacement of a normal intercourse. I think it's a dangerous misconception which, regrettably, has already made itself firmly into mainstream of today's life. Watching porn together with a partner is, of course, a completely different story. Once I had great time watching Tinto Brass's Paprika with a lovely girl in my hotel room in Bonn, ordering pizza, drinking wine, convincing her to stay overnight and eating her pussy at 4 o'clock in the morning while she watched lesbian porn on her phone, then making her cum hard, pushing me away from her sweet juicy fuckhole. When am I alone, I prefer genuine, unscripted amateur porn, capturing glimpses of sincere lust between the partners.

Staying in touch and chatting with FKK girls helps me to cope with my basic needs in these horrible times. They are my angels, my lovely fuck mates, my buddies and friends. I love them. My last FKK visit was New Years Eve in January. I had 5 rooms and filled the rubber each and every time, all 5 standard 30-minute rooms! These ugly stats on sex per year per month per country per men per women sicken me. I wish all people loved sex as a healthy gift from nature without prejudice and poison of fictitious societal "norms".

[ExpatLover]

EL: including the new promising virus covid 19 which seems to be a very good offer.

[Pessimist]

The 80-120 times per year range amongst developed nations is a number that I've seen quoted quite often; but like you, I have always been skeptical. It does seem like a lot as a median average but perhaps more believable as a mean average. When I was 18, I had a live-in girlfriend and we definitely had sex 300+ days in that year with many two or three a-days that brought the number to well over 365 in one year. At 25, my fianc and I were at 3-4 times per week, again with multiple 2 and 3-a-days. If the average couple has sex once per week (about 50-60 per year,) perhaps the average numbers of 18-30 year old childless couples having sex 4-5 times per week bring up the mean to 2-3 times per week? That would make the 80-90 times per year average a little more believable.

Also, remember you are looking from your point of view, some one who appears to be educated and might have spent a large part of your youth getting your education and career building. That population generally spends more time in a stressed state and makes less time for sex. Carefree young couples generally spend more time in the sack than the high achieving, career-driven pair.

But you are right, polling for questions like these has to be taken with a great degree of doubt. It reminds me of polling for penis size. I imagine guys inflate their numbers. And as far as I can tell, women are terrible at gauging measurement of penis size. From their point of view (hopefully waist height) and to great benefit to our ego's, I think it looks bigger to them than it really is. A girl once quoted 18 cm for me and I had to grab her 20 cm heels for comparison to show her that I fell several cm short of that mark, hah!

My first objection wit that article is that it claims to be ranking nations across the world re: sexual activity. To rank 200 countries, one would need to have data about all 200 nations; also, the data is to be collected consistently, using comparable methods / comparable ways of sampling / standard error etc. What is the chance that this article's authors and their data was truly worldwide in that sense? Is it even possible to collect such data in a huge number of countries where these questions are taboo?

At best, these types of ranks can be done for a few western countries. I regard these articles as being more for fun. I of course enjoy reading them. But they should never be treated as any sort of definitive reference points on sexual activity.

Secondly, look at a few other links. These are from quick Google searches, I am not vouching for any of their authenticity.

https://www.healthline.com/health/ba...uples-have-sex#The-Average.

The link above says "According to David Schnarch, PhD, through a study conducted with more than 20,000 couples, he found that only 26% of couples are hitting the once-a-week mark, with the majority of the respondents reporting sex only once or twice a month, or less!

Mind you, these are couples. It may be even less (or more; I don't know) for singles. For example, a single person w / o a partner may not have sex for several months or even years. I would not be shocked if many middle aged or older single women are totally inactive sexually. Some single men may be playing the field or seeing pros, but many single men may also be quite inactive. I had roommates in college and grad school who were quite shy and had almost no sex for many months or years. None. I know these people exist, and these were actually educated guys who were pleasant and nice, just shy or had no game.

To be measuring this across the population, it has to be a true sample: 18 years to 85 years, across all types of health conditions, ethnicity, income levels, etc. (healthy young people to older, obese, handicapped, ailing, homeless to what not). Limiting such a study to just couples in the 30-55 age bracket for example gives bogus interpretation.

https://flowingdata.com/2017/07/03/married-people-sex/

This above link says 25% of all adults have sex 2 or more times a week. So, 75% are at less than twice a week. 18% did not have sex even once in prior 12 months, 10% had sex just once or twice in the past 12 M, 13% had sex once per month. That is, 41% of all adults had sex in the range of 0 to 12 times a year.

If you look at the age groups, 64% of the 55 and older are in that 0 to 12 times a year range. If you look at the same stats by marital status, 48% of separated people, 50% of divorced people, 86% of widowed people have sex anywhere from 0 to 12 times a year. The most sexually active people are the married people and never married people. The last chart in the article shows sexually activity is higher if a person is married vs never married in each age group.

It is obvious from those numbers in the above link that sexual activity decreases with age. So, as western societies age, it would make sense that people are sexually less active than they were 40 or 50 years ago.

I think the data for this link above is US survey; I have no idea if this applies to other countries.

When I google for sexual activity in third world countries, the amount of data that can be pulled up is scant. Which was my original point.

Here is one link:

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/...2.2009.02283.x

"Global Better Sex Survey sexual aspirations and unmet needs of men and women from Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, South Korea, Taiwan, and Thailand.

Methods:8195; To qualify, respondents must have had sexual intercourse at least once in the past 12 months. Women must have had heterosexual intercourse. Data were weighted by population size between countries.

Results:8195; Of 3538 Asian respondents (1776 men and 1762 women), 52% were aged <40 years, 40% were aged 40–59 years, and 8% were aged ≥60 years. The majority were married or in a relationship. Men and women reported having sexual intercourse 5. 1 and 4. 0 times monthly, respectively. ".

So, it seems this survey was (in multiple Asian countries, but developed Asian countries in fact) limited the survey to people who had sex at least once in the last year. Of those, the average activity is 5. 1 times a month for men and 4 times for women. That is 61 times for men, 48 for women. Neither one comes to the 100 number, and remember this is of those people who had sex at least once. In the flowing data study, nearly a fifth of adults did not have sex even once in the last 12 M. Plus, I don't know how honestly this link above in the Asian study balanced the population to include all the other factors (people with bad health, low income, etc).

India has a billion people and China has a billion (actually, more like 1. 35 to 1. 4 B each). Together, they make 36% of world population. I could not find any good links on how often people have sex in those nations, across all sections of population. You can find some specific sub-sections of population but not the entire population.

So, I come back to my original question: How can any publication claim to rank countries by sexual activity when there is no accurate data available about incidence of sex across the entire population in even the advanced countries let alone all 200 odd countries in the world?

[Pistons]

Interestingly the legalization of P6 has been voiced as a a positive in regards to reducing sex repression. I haven't read studies regarding this, but the idea is floating around. So there is something moving in regards to our hobby.

We just have to tackle the feminists main argument first: abusive pimps. And this can be hard to track. But this is also why I am a supporter of blockchain money. It would be over and out for pimps. And also for the feminists main argument. Thus opening up for p6 in a lot more countries.

And Amnesty International is an avid supporter of p6 too as it even can empower poor women.

[Pistons]

I don't know what the reason for sexual repression levels are in certain countries, but I have a strong feeling that these things could change with the right social programming through media channels and schooling system.

Actually it seems my country has some PR companies working on improving these things. And I bet more countries might be looking at the same thing.

I also lived in one of the Asian countries, and discussed the topic with a lot of people there. Male and female. And I got a sense that the reasons were a bit different in Asia. At least seemingly it seemed to be highly work related to long working days. But one may also argue that is part of the reason also in some European countries.

If people are more at home, they will generally fuck more.

[Mursenary]

The ten countries that are having the least sex are the ten countries that are watching the most porn. That plus the absence of religion have contributed to their most peaceful outlook. Therefore pornhub is doing its part to contribute to world peace.

While those countries are indeed rather secular, the top 8 seem to also be very socially stuffy. Hong Kong, Singapore, and Japan are easily the most socially rigid and judgmental Asian societies. The Nordic countries and and the Swiss seem to be the most socially rigid of the Europeans. It seems to me that the top countries are all socially repressed, supporting the fact religion is hardly the only oppressive institution.

[Pessimist]

The ten countries that are having the least sex are the ten countries that are watching the most porn. That plus the absence of religion have contributed to their most peaceful outlook. Therefore pornhub is doing its part to contribute to world peace.

Ah, so "having sex" included masturbation in that article from McAdonis? Got it.

[McAdonis]

The ten countries that are having the least sex are the ten countries that are watching the most porn. That plus the absence of religion have contributed to their most peaceful outlook. Therefore pornhub is doing its part to contribute to world peace.

I can agree with that: sexual release whether it be with a woman or streaming porn contributes to peace. However, I believe your original post mentioned something about a man and woman. In addition to porn consumption, two common predictors for being a peaceful nation might be (1) older age population and (2) wealth and probably GINI (too lazy to look up).

Cross-referencing "most religious nations" against Global Peace Index: The most "warlike" as measured by GPI would be Afghanistan. Not surprisingly, Afghanistan's population has a median age of 19 and is near the bottom in terms of GDP (PPP) per capita. Citizens of UAE and Qatar consider themselves religious (91 and 95 percent respectively). However, both rank relatively high on Global Peace Index. I think we can attribute this to their high GDP (PPP) per capita: Qatar's is highest in the world. UAE is 7th highest.

https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Import...ion_by_country

http://visionofhumanity.org/app/uplo...019-web003.pdf

On the flip side, my immediate thoughts went to Warring cultures like the Romans, Persians, and Vikings where sex was rampant. Or Brazil being one of the most violent countries in the world yet attitudes on sex being one of the most liberal in the world.

Good point. I would add Colombia to this list. Prostitution is legal in both Brazil and Colombia, yet both are top twenty when it comes to murder rate: https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/ind...RC.P5/rankings.

[Sirioja]

Bonobos are ruled by females and they fuck every time in order to maintain "peace and love" for the group. Chimpanze are ruled by males and they fight every time in order to get the females. Only a river separates and isolated Bonobos on one side and Chimpanze on the other side of the river. And they did belong to the same family long years ago!

Very interesting, like sending a ball to a little girl or a little boy, with usually very different reaction.

[Mursenary]

Did they do the survey in all the 200 odd countries in the world, whatever that number is? Including Moslem countries, inaccessible African countries, etc? Did they poll men and women both in all the countries? To accurately get info of such detail, they really do need to poll big enough samples in each country, in all the 200 countries. And good luck making women confess (or even men for that matter) how many times they have sex in most countries, barring a few countries in the west. In fact, if some random dude called me at work and asked me these questions, I will hang up. So, the sample might be people volunteering to give such info, which skews the sample to people who want to brag about it.

I personally don't believe most of those numbers. The average person is not having sex 80 or 90 times a year if you take all the people of population, from young to middle age to old, from married to unmarried to shy to no GF / BF for long stretches, unattractive people, people averse to sex, shy people, homeless people, drug addicts, frigid women, so on so forth. Even well off middle aged couples in marriage who work 40 hrs a week with children have so little energy during a week to have sex. May be once or twice is a great week. And when they have no steady relationship, there is no sex for many months at a stretch.

Frankly that whole article is BS in my view.

The 80-120 times per year range amongst developed nations is a number that I've seen quoted quite often; but like you, I have always been skeptical. It does seem like a lot as a median average but perhaps more believable as a mean average. When I was 18, I had a live-in girlfriend and we definitely had sex 300+ days in that year with many two or three a-days that brought the number to well over 365 in one year. At 25, my fiancé and I were at 3-4 times per week, again with multiple 2 and 3-a-days. If the average couple has sex once per week (about 50-60 per year,) perhaps the average numbers of 18-30 year old childless couples having sex 4-5 times per week bring up the mean to 2-3 times per week? That would make the 80-90 times per year average a little more believable.

Also, remember you are looking from your point of view, some one who appears to be educated and might have spent a large part of your youth getting your education and career building. That population generally spends more time in a stressed state and makes less time for sex. Carefree young couples generally spend more time in the sack than the high achieving, career-driven pair.

But you are right, polling for questions like these has to be taken with a great degree of doubt. It reminds me of polling for penis size. I imagine guys inflate their numbers. And as far as I can tell, women are terrible at gauging measurement of penis size. From their point of view (hopefully waist height) and to great benefit to our ego's, I think it looks bigger to them than it really is. A girl once quoted 18 cm for me and I had to grab her 20 cm heels for comparison to show her that I fell several cm short of that mark, hah!

[Turgid]

Here are the ten countries having the least sex. Not a single one would be characterized as warlike. Not a single one would be characterized as a religious country. So their lack of sex is not attributed to religion, but perhaps being older, having more stressful work lives, or being less socially connected societies: https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/1.../?singlepage=1.

In 2018, men aged 18-24 had much less sex than their counterparts did back in 2000. This seems counter-intuitive because the younger generation has "hookup" apps like Tinder, whereas two decades ago, this app did not exist.

The ten countries that are having the least sex are the ten countries that are watching the most porn. That plus the absence of religion have contributed to their most peaceful outlook. Therefore pornhub is doing its part to contribute to world peace.

[Pessimist]

Here are the ten countries having the least sex. Not a single one would be characterized as warlike. Not a single one would be characterized as a religious country. So their lack of sex is not attributed to religion, but perhaps being older, having more stressful work lives, or being less socially connected societies: https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/1.../?singlepage=1.

In 2018, men aged 18-24 had much less sex than their counterparts did back in 2000. This seems counter-intuitive because the younger generation has "hookup" apps like Tinder, whereas two decades ago, this app did not exist.

Other than the fact that this is an article in a publication, it is not very clear to me that it has any more accurate authenticity than if I made up stuff on this site for example. Did they explain their methodology? How wide spread is their sample? Did they do the survey in all the 200 odd countries in the world, whatever that number is? Including Moslem countries, inaccessible African countries, etc? Did they poll men and women both in all the countries? To accurately get info of such detail, they really do need to poll big enough samples in each country, in all the 200 countries. And good luck making women confess (or even men for that matter) how many times they have sex in most countries, barring a few countries in the west. In fact, if some random dude called me at work and asked me these questions, I will hang up. So, the sample might be people volunteering to give such info, which skews the sample to people who want to brag about it.

I personally don't believe most of those numbers. The average person is not having sex 80 or 90 times a year if you take all the people of population, from young to middle age to old, from married to unmarried to shy to no GF / BF for long stretches, unattractive people, people averse to sex, shy people, homeless people, drug addicts, frigid women, so on so forth. Even well off middle aged couples in marriage who work 40 hrs a week with children have so little energy during a week to have sex. May be once or twice is a great week. And when they have no steady relationship, there is no sex for many months at a stretch.

Frankly that whole article is BS in my view.