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  1. #1398
    Quote Originally Posted by RockyV  [View Original Post]
    Covid and flu viruses are very different and immunity to one of them would not give you immunity to the other one. That is why you cannot use a flu vaccine for Covid. You can find all types of correlations with flu, but correlation does not mean causation. This is the first rule in clinical epidemiology.
    A weak flu season means lots of people who would have normally died in a regular flu season didn't. When COVID hit there were more deaths than normal as there more susceptible people in the population than normal. It also explains why the current increasing rates of infection don't seem to have a correlated increase in death rate as many of the more susceptible people have, unfortunately, already died.

  2. #1397
    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenKane  [View Original Post]
    Very good video explaining that the initial Covid spike in deaths could well have been caused by a weak flu season the previous year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvF...L&index=3&t=0s
    Here's a link to the FT and an excellent and very objective article about the "Swedish Experiment:

    https://www.ft.com/content/5cc92d45-...5-204c9a0a157b

    Some interesting quotes by Anders Tegnell, Sweden's state epidemiologist;.

    His dislike of national lockdowns is obvious. “It’s really using a hammer to kill a fly,” he insists
    Is there a danger that he becomes too detached, too much at the level of general statistics rather than the tragedy of 5,800 deaths and rising? “That’s, of course, a danger but I think, then, it’s good to have the kind of experience that I have. I’ve worked in hospitals. I’ve seen the flu epidemics and people coming in and overflooding the hospitals. I worked with Ebola in Africa. I do realise what diseases can do to a society and a system.”
    Adopting face masks is “more of a statement than actually a measure”. He adds: “Face masks are an easy solution, and I’m deeply distrustful of easy solutions to complex problems.”
    About a vaccine:

    Our conversation ends with Tegnell again swimming against the tide, and warning that a vaccine — if and when it comes — will not be the “silver bullet”. He adds: “Once again, I’m not very fond of easy solutions to complex problems and to believe that once the vaccine is here, we can go back and live as we always have done. I think that’s a dangerous message to send because it’s not going to be that easy.”

  3. #1396
    Quote Originally Posted by CitizenKane  [View Original Post]
    Very good video explaining that the initial Covid spike in deaths could well have been caused by a weak flu season the previous year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvF...L&index=3&t=0s
    Covid and flu viruses are very different and immunity to one of them would not give you immunity to the other one. That is why you cannot use a flu vaccine for Covid. You can find all types of correlations with flu, but correlation does not mean causation. This is the first rule in clinical epidemiology.

  4. #1395
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    With transverse myelitis you can loose nerve contact with your cock.
    There are people that lose contact with their brains even without a vaccine. How do you explain that?

  5. #1394
    Very good video explaining that the initial Covid spike in deaths could well have been caused by a weak flu season the previous year.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UvF...L&index=3&t=0s

  6. #1393
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I hope all you pro vaccine experts with 'years of experience in medicine' and who knows it all better than us anti-vax 'conspiracy theorists' will immediately go and grab one of these Oxford university AstraZenexa covid-19 vaccines!

    I hear of great results only available for the most knowledgeable pro-vaxxers out there!

    Transverse myelitis you said? Fake news right? Well, it is just a minor non important thing that goes over within a few days right?
    Indeed, but these people seem to be the same naive and easily brainwashed bunch that believe that 'you get better service from a hooker if you just agree to the upsell and pay extra. ' LOL.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02594-w

    Previously, a participant developed symptoms of transverse myelitis, an inflammation of the spinal cord which is often sparked by viral infections....
    Just a minor inflammation of the spinal cord? Sounds like a great deal, especially compared to the effects of Covid 19 on the majority of people: either completely asymptomatic or just a minor common cold.

    Hard facts and numbers of deaths per million and Sweden's herd immunity that the pro-vaxxers conveniently ignore because it doesn't fit their narrative: https://youtu.be/9EAbR4WKJpM.

    I much prefer to live in a free society with anonymous visits to FKK clubs and the risk of a common cold or a small flu, instead of in a totalitarian regime which forces you to take a barely tested vaccine and tracks people to FKK clubs with Corona apps.

  7. #1392
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    I will let vaccine, even Sanofi one, for others, I think I take less risks in brothels.
    With transverse myelitis you can loose nerve contact with your cock.

  8. #1391
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    I hope all you pro vaccine experts with 'years of experience in medicine' and who knows it all better than us anti-vax 'conspiracy theorists' will immediately go and grab one of these Oxford university AstraZenexa covid-19 vaccines!

    I hear of great results only available for the most knowledgeable pro-vaxxers out there!

    Transverse myelitis you said? Fake news right? Well, it is just a minor non important thing that goes over within a few days right?
    I will let vaccine, even Sanofi one, for others, I think I take less risks in brothels.

  9. #1390
    I hope all you pro vaccine experts with 'years of experience in medicine' and who knows it all better than us anti-vax 'conspiracy theorists' will immediately go and grab one of these Oxford university AstraZenexa covid-19 vaccines!

    I hear of great results only available for the most knowledgeable pro-vaxxers out there!

    Transverse myelitis you said? Fake news right? Well, it is just a minor non important thing that goes over within a few days right?

  10. #1389
    Quote Originally Posted by Polyamorist  [View Original Post]
    Salaam Turgid. I made the point a few months ago that most of the people making decisions (politicians) are old people.

    Imagine if children were the ones making decisions in our society. Then all the old people would just be shipped off to remote islands. For their own safety.
    Being in my sixties myself I certainly disagree with people being shipped off to a remote island. Nevertheless lets say that the practice of world authorities at the beginning of the world wide spread of covid 19 was to let things go on as normal with no border closures, no quarantine and no lock downs then I would have started my three month FKK tour in July as planned. I believe in the benefits of pleasure just as much as I believe in the benefits of work.

  11. #1388
    Quote Originally Posted by RockyV  [View Original Post]
    I find great comfort in knowing that what I've studied for the last 25 years is at odds with zeitgeit.
    https://www.sciencealert.com/viruses...study-suggests

  12. #1387
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Its all perspective.

    An old person with comorbidities will be very pleased with lockdown, curfew, quarantine, wearing of masks and club and border closures.

    Now me, I say no lockdown, no curfew, no quarantine, no wearing of masks and open all borders and let us all have fun in the FKKs.
    Salaam Turgid. I made the point a few months ago that most of the people making decisions (politicians) are old people.

    Imagine if children were the ones making decisions in our society. Then all the old people would just be shipped off to remote islands. For their own safety.

  13. #1386
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Its all perspective.

    An old person with comorbidities will be very pleased with lockdown, curfew, quarantine, wearing of masks and club and border closures.

    Now me, I say no lockdown, no curfew, no quarantine, no wearing of masks and open all borders and let us all have fun in the FKKs.
    The average age of FKK goers seem to be well into their 50's, a relatively high risk group even without diagnosed comorbidities. A key word there is "diagnosed. " I guarantee that well over 50 percent of FKK goers over 50 have some sort of undiagnosed compromised health function, whether it be hypertension, arteriosclerosis, hyperlipidemia, impaired renal function, etc.

    The promotion of no restrictions with FKK attendance is lunacy, not to mention short-sighted when considering community spread. Unless you are a hermit and never see another human in your personal life, even if you personally do not fall ill, it's absurdly irresponsible and selfish to promote the aforementioned behaviors (no masks, free reign to spread).

  14. #1385
    Quote Originally Posted by Tuber19  [View Original Post]
    So far:

    7,810,613,530 = Current World Population.

    901,928 = Covid 19 death.

    By doing simple math you will find that the rate of death for the population is 0. 0001 which means
    0. 01% , which means 99.99% of the global population have survived the pandemic.

    Yet suddenly we need to wear mask, can't travel, live in fear and not go to FKK.

    This is ridiculous.

    I know some are afraid, like many people afrraid of travel by plane, but those people are free to stay home, I think everyone should live normal live, unless someone is in the high risk group should have some Precautions not everyone.

    I miss airplanes.

    And I miss FKK.
    Its all perspective.

    An old person with comorbidities will be very pleased with lockdown, curfew, quarantine, wearing of masks and club and border closures.

    Now me, I say no lockdown, no curfew, no quarantine, no wearing of masks and open all borders and let us all have fun in the FKKs.

  15. #1384
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Well, then your biology book is at odds with the modern zeitgeit regarding the definition of a virus. At least it should make clear that there is no consensus regarding weather or not a virus is a living entity or not. And I subscribe to the latter.
    I find great comfort in knowing that what I've studied for the last 25 years is at odds with zeitgeit.

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