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  1. #1365
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    Everyone is reliant on good teamplayers. Football is a team sport!

    To say see Ronaldo did not have good teammates in all those clubs would be a lie. He didn't even play the euro finals Portugal won!

    I bet you Messi would be much better in Man City than he currently is in Barcelona.

    But as I alluded to, Messi has a very draining frequency when he has the ball, so he cannot run as much. That is why he might be even more reliant on good team mates than say Ronaldo is. Who is more fit.
    Of course Messi is very skillful, but look who were Garrincha, Pelé, Brazilian Ronaldo, Johann Cruyiff, but too selfish, unfaithful, behaving like a WG, he is not a respectful man for me, very disappointing, even Bartomeu is not good president, but Barcelona was right to show him there is a contract to respect. Many very good players couldn't succeed at Barcelona because of him, he is not a good team mate, he plays only for himself since Iniesta, why he never succeeded with Argentina where many great players but he doesn't want to play with them.

  2. #1364
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    That monger forums are one of best places in the world to meet very important people. The same can easily be found perched on bar stools around any monger venue. Just by them a drink and they'll tell you all about it.
    Very true. Imagine you got lucky enough to be sitting next to Mario Gomez on a plane journey. Now, imagine this Mario also happened to have the brains of Einstein, the funny lines of David Letterman and the brilliance of Bono. Sometimes we do get lucky like that on this site.

    In case there is a Seinfeld fan here, they might like this little snippet in this context.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JetECtaq4OU

    George: So what have you been doing with yourself?

    Jerry: I'm I'm a comedian.

    George: Ah ha, well, I really wouldn't know about that. I don't watch much TV. I like to read. So what do you do, a lot of that "did you ever notice?" this kind of stuff.

    Jerry: Yeah, yeah.

    George: It strikes me a lot of guys are doing that kind of humor now.

    Jerry: Yeah, yeah, Well, you really got bald there, didn't you?

    George: Yeah, yeah.

    JERRY: You really used to have a think full head of hair.

    George: Yeah, yeah. Well, I guess I started losing it when I was about twenty-eight right around the time I made my first million. You know what they say. The first million is the hardest one.

    Jerry: yeah, yeah.

    Lois: What do you do?

    George: I'm an architect.

    Lois: Have you designed any buildings in New York?

    George: Have you seen the new addition to the Guggenheim?

    Lois: You did that?

    George: Yep. And it didn't take very long either.

    Jerry: Well you've really built yourself up into something.

    George: Well, well, I had a dream, Jerry.

    Jerry: Well, one cannot help[ but wonder what brings you into a crummy little coffee shop like this.

    George: Well, I like to stay in touch with the people.

    Jerry: Ah, you know you have a hole in your sneaker there. What is that canvas?

    George: You know my driver's waiting, I really should get running. Good to see you guys again.

  3. #1363
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    In his own country, whatever all drugs, but best for Argentinians is Maradona. In Barcelona which helped him to grow up when he had problems and they paid all medecines, since Pujol and Xavi, other players have to play for him or they have problems like Etoo had, only Iniesta was a bit free for playing. Messi is kind of political footballer like was Beckhenbauer who didn t want Gunter Netzer who was a top player, and for a faithful guy like me, Messi just has a really bad behavior about Barcelona which made him. Out of Barcelona, he is nothing, he is not Pel nor Garrincha, when CR7 I don t like so much, but won with MU, Real, Juve and Portugal. Only money and golden balloons now for him, when as written at the bottom of Mortirolo: follow your passion, I climb for this, like I ran after the ball with my dog when I was a child, just for pleasure and passion. He changed like WGs.
    Everyone is reliant on good teamplayers. Football is a team sport!

    To say see Ronaldo did not have good teammates in all those clubs would be a lie. He didn't even play the euro finals Portugal won!

    I bet you Messi would be much better in Man City than he currently is in Barcelona.

    But as I alluded to, Messi has a very draining frequency when he has the ball, so he cannot run as much. That is why he might be even more reliant on good team mates than say Ronaldo is. Who is more fit.

  4. #1362
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    High IQ is rarely born in the USA you mean?

    You have to pay them to come over, as with italian Caruana? Because everyone who knows the story there, should know that that was exactly what you did!

    Comparing a small country of 5 million to one of 330 m is also rather idiotic in terms of football. And your best current footballer got Croatian parents, and was eligible to play for Croatia. So hardly had anything do with american talent work! (In a way kind of like France, who in turn robs Africa of talent).

    Looking at the wikipedia page of USAs national teams biggest defeat, it was interestingly an 11-0 loss to Norway. Again, a country with less than 2% of the population of the USA. Not that Norway is the best in football.
    Aw, talked shit, can't back it up. "But our women are pretty good. " LOL.

    Sit down. Norwegians are just the hick cousins of the much more civilized Swedes.

    If Norway was an American state, they would be West Virginia. Inbred mountain folk.
    Last edited by Admin3; 01-17-21 at 17:20.

  5. #1361
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    The same can easily be found perched on bar stools around any monger venue. Just by them a drink and they'll tell you all about it.
    Or hiding behind a pillar when they're so small they can't climb easily on the stool.

  6. #1360
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Ah, Norwegian! Did not know. I wonder why he is bragging about football then (or dissing USA). Why not Chess? Magnus is just about god, in today's chess scene.

    But like in many other fields, in chess too, all the world's best do want to migrate to US. Our best are Nakamura (JP), Caruana (Italy). So (Philippines), Dominguez Perez (Cuba).

    Perhaps Magnus will also migrate to US? I bet that will send Norway into apoplexy.
    High IQ is rarely born in the USA you mean?

    You have to pay them to come over, as with Italian Caruana? Because everyone who knows the story there, should know that that was exactly what you did!

    Comparing a small country of 5 million to one of 330 m is also rather idiotic in terms of football. And your best current footballer got Croatian parents, and was eligible to play for Croatia. So hardly had anything do with American talent work! (In a way kind of like France, who in turn robs Africa of talent).

    Looking at the wikipedia page of USAs national teams biggest defeat, it was interestingly an 11-0 loss to Norway. Again, a country with less than 2% of the population of the USA. Not that Norway is the best in football. Although for women we've won both the Olympics and the world cup, and had a ballon the'or winner 2 years ago. We have issue especially with the weather, causing grass to be a big problem for most of the year. This is anything but good for talent work. Just now, the first artificial turn generation is coming up, and player by player our top 11 is far better than the top 11 on the US national team. Just comparing player values on transfermarkt should be an indication. Rankings can lie. But we also have a sleepy coach who is a xxxx in terms of team composition, and lacks pep talk abilities. So what do you know?
    Last edited by Admin3; 01-17-21 at 17:21.

  7. #1359
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    In any case, I want to congratulate you for being a professional footballer, a past (current?) super millionaire based on what you said, a genuine expert in multifarious subjects ranging from anthropology, geology, cosmology, Physics, crypto currency, bio-pharma, medicine, economics, history, paleontology, and many others. Highly admirable.
    That is just the top of the mountain!

  8. #1358

    Well you must know by now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Not a problem. I understood your questions but considered them irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I don't pretend to know anything about anthropology or health sciences or any of the other topics on which you write frequently, but if your understanding of those subjects is as deep as what you display here in your understanding of Physics, I have to wonder. In any case, I want to congratulate you for being a professional footballer, a past (current?) super millionaire based on what you said, a genuine expert in multifarious subjects ranging from anthropology, geology, cosmology, Physics, crypto currency, bio-pharma, medicine, economics, history, paleontology, and many others. Highly admirable.
    That monger forums are one of best places in the world to meet very important people. The same can easily be found perched on bar stools around any monger venue. Just by them a drink and they'll tell you all about it.

  9. #1357
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    You start off this discussion by claiming the expanding earth theory does not exist. Because you haven't even heard about it.

    Then you move on to stating that all I have is a theory, thus making it false.

    And you continue by not even understanding my questions (great show of intelligence BTW).

    And you end by saying that you narrow ideas on physics are just theories as well.

    Congratulations. You get an F.
    Not a problem. I understood your questions but considered them irrelevant to the discussion at hand. I don't pretend to know anything about anthropology or health sciences or any of the other topics on which you write frequently, but if your understanding of those subjects is as deep as what you display here in your understanding of Physics, I have to wonder. In any case, I want to congratulate you for being a professional footballer, a past (current?) super millionaire based on what you said, a genuine expert in multifarious subjects ranging from anthropology, geology, cosmology, Physics, crypto currency, bio-pharma, medicine, economics, history, paleontology, and many others. Highly admirable.

  10. #1356
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    Did I read this correctly? A Norwegian talking shit about football? A country's whose national team currently comes in at an impressive 44th in the FIFA world rankings with terrible USA at 22. A country that made it passed the World Cup group stage all of once compared to the 4 from the USA? Apparently Norwegians don't know shit about football either.

    https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-rank...ing-table/men/
    Ah, Norwegian! Did not know. I wonder why he is bragging about football then (or dissing USA). Why not Chess? Magnus is just about god, in today's chess scene.

    But like in many other fields, in chess too, all the world's best do want to migrate to US. Our best are Nakamura (JP), Caruana (Italy). So (Philippines), Dominguez Perez (Cuba).

    Perhaps Magnus will also migrate to US? I bet that will send Norway into apoplexy.

  11. #1355
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, I don't even know what to make of your questions or you thinking in your mind that somehow asking these questions proves your planet stretching theory.

    On #5, the answer is gravity. And the part about accelerated inflation applies to empty space, and as I said "it is just A theory". That theory says the empty space between galaxies is getting stretched. It is a very difficult concept to understand. But you are just throwing whatever questions come to your mind, instead of understanding what the inflation theory even is implying.

    Have a nice day. Cheers.
    You start off this discussion by claiming the expanding earth theory does not exist. Because you haven't even heard about it.

    Then you move on to stating that all I have is a theory, thus making it false.

    And you continue by not even understanding my questions (great show of intelligence BTW).

    And you end by saying that you narrow ideas on physics are just theories as well.

    Congratulations. You get an F.

  12. #1354
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Sorry to say, but these sentences are simply incoherent and sounding like totally uneducated babble. I think you said your field is anthropology or some other science. For sure it is not Physics and the above sentences will not be written by anyone who even has taken high school level physics. Again, I am sorry to be harsh because normally I enjoy reading your posts. Cheers.
    I am way above you.

    And if you want to quote me again, start at the beginning of a sentence.

    Any high school child knows that if you want to quote someone, you do not start mid way into a sentence. But I will report for doing this.

  13. #1353
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    1. Messi is the best of all time in my view mainly because of 3 things: First, his constant overview of the game and where every player is. Second, his frequency in how he moves with the ball (not to be confused with speed). Thirdly, his touch of the ball. A combination of these factors makes him better than Ronaldo and others. It is just bad luck that his teammates, and coaches have not been the best always. But that is how it is, especially with national teams.

    2. Because the English mentality of tacklings work less and less at higher levels. And thus English football players get brainwashed early into a type of play that is not too efficient at the very top. I assume it would be better for British youngsters to have other focus in their heads while playing. But, it is objectively looking better now for them than in a very long time.
    In his own country, whatever all drugs, but best for Argentinians is Maradona. In Barcelona which helped him to grow up when he had problems and they paid all medecines, since Pujol and Xavi, other players have to play for him or they have problems like Etoo had, only Iniesta was a bit free for playing. Messi is kind of political footballer like was Beckhenbauer who didn t want Gunter Netzer who was a top player, and for a faithful guy like me, Messi just has a really bad behavior about Barcelona which made him. Out of Barcelona, he is nothing, he is not Pelé nor Garrincha, when CR7 I don t like so much, but won with MU, Real, Juve and Portugal. Only money and golden balloons now for him, when as written at the bottom of Mortirolo: follow your passion, I climb for this, like I ran after the ball with my dog when I was a child, just for pleasure and passion. He changed like WGs.

  14. #1352
    Quote Originally Posted by Pistons  [View Original Post]
    USA got shit terrible football teams. So nobody in their right mind would ever get paid 1 billion $ from football.

    This very idea says it all, you have absolutely NO idea what football even is.

    And no, football is not some handball with breaks every 20 seconds like what you play in the states. Calling a national league for the World Series etc. And Superbowl? What is this? Some childish game? Reminds me of Sega Mega Drive. Might as well name the contest 'Super Mega Duper Galactic Finals'.

    P.S. : I admit I am clueless regarding that sport you play. So just admit you are clueless regarding football too! Because you are.
    Did I read this correctly? A Norwegian talking shit about football? A country's whose national team currently comes in at an impressive 44th in the FIFA world rankings with terrible USA at 22. A country that made it passed the World Cup group stage all of once compared to the 4 from the USA? Apparently Norwegians don't know shit about football either.

    https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-rank...ing-table/men/

  15. #1351
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Sorry to say, but these sentences are simply incoherent and sounding like totally uneducated babble. I think you said your field is anthropology or some other science. For sure it is not Physics and the above sentences will not be written by anyone who even has taken high school level physics. Again, I am sorry to be harsh because normally I enjoy reading your posts. Cheers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, I don't even know what to make of your questions or you thinking in your mind that somehow asking these questions proves your planet stretching theory.

    On #5, the answer is gravity. And the part about accelerated inflation applies to empty space, and as I said "it is just A theory". That theory says the empty space between galaxies is getting stretched. It is a very difficult concept to understand. But you are just throwing whatever questions come to your mind, instead of understanding what the inflation theory even is implying.

    Have a nice day. Cheers.
    His tactics are always the same. Bafflegab and Gish Gallop are 2 common disingenuous strategies used by unscrupulous debaters.

    The first, baffle gab, is defined as "pretentious, incomprehensible, or overly technical language. " It's used to come off as knowledgeable but the user of these terms may only have a superficial familiarity or rudimentary understanding of the terms and principals.

    The latter is similar in that it also involves large volumes of bullshit covered in a thin coat of fact.

    Gish Gallop: "Named for the debate tactic created by creationist shill Duane Gish, a Gish Gallop involves spewing so much bullshit in such a short span on that your opponent can't address let alone counter all of it. To make matters worse a Gish Gallop will often have one or more 'talking points' that has a tiny core of truth to it, making the person rebutting it spend even more time debunking it in order to explain that, yes, it's not totally false but the Galloper is distorting / misusing / misstating the actual situation."

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