Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Pistons]

I think you're misusing the term linger.

There was supposed to be a 'don't' in there. Hmm, did someone edit it? Hmm. Might have typed too fast.

[Master Monger]

There's some socio-psycho pathology going on here.

Can't debate the truth so instead you try to discredit the individual. If you don't work for the government you really should. You would fit right in with those low intelligence, morally deficient Ass clowns. You name the time and place and we can both get a psych eval and see which one of us is more psychotic or delusional.

If you don't want to meet then keep your ignorant comments about Other people who are far more intelligent than you, to yourself. You incompetent loser.

[Mursenary]

Why just 5 months ago did the University of Alaska uncover that the government was completely lying about 9-11 and especially about building 7 of the World Trade Center towers and nobody is doing anything about it?

Where are the Terrorists?

Where are the weapons of Mass Destruction?

Where are the hundreds of millions of people with HIV / AIDS?

Where is Herpes?

Where are The cities nuked by Russia and The USA?

Where is the fuel that was never in 95% of the Russian nuclear weapons?

Why are there videos showing nuclear war causing the whole world to be blown up when in reality, if all of the Nuclear weapons In the world went off right now it would only make about 6% of the planet uninhabitable?

Why when Saddam Hussein asked the US Government if he could attack Kuwait to take back the land Kuwait stole while he was at war with Iran, did the US government tell him it wasn't any of their concern if he attacked Kuwait?

There's some socio-psycho pathology going on here.

[Mursenary]

Mursenary:

If all you manage to write in response are believed to be insults, I wonder if you are speaking out of your own background. Because these thing linger with me. And you have no idea what I earn, nor contribute, nor how social I am. I also lift more weights than you in some exercises, and I have played sports are a fairly high level. Although an ankle injury kinda stopped me. Otherwise I'd have made a 10 figure salary off of football by now.

I think you're misusing the term linger. 5 figure salary. Poorly social due to being socially awkward. Obvious lack of athleticism making the final claims completely hilarious.

Its a no to discussing with you. I didn't pay attention to what you were writing. The same can be said about 20 quotations in your last post. Tldr.

LOL, no discipline whatsoever.

[Paulie97]

and the final one was not clear to me who had written (BMJ).

It's very clear who wrote it, even for the semi-educated. It would be citation #1 in the journal references at the bottom of the article with a link to the PDF. Numerous well credientialed researchers were involved.

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m2743

The other linked sources you tried to minimize were also plenty useful. That said, nothing is going to satisfy a conspiracy theory peddler. For them there's always something wrong with the analysis, the numbers are faked, the whole world is ganging up on Trump and the list goes on. Ultimately though your whining with do you no good. The world had taken a certain route with this, it's for the most part been the right one and you'll have to wait this out with the rest of us.

[Pessimist]

The quality of the girls vary. Generally below FKK quality. The prices vary from $300 to $500 with $400 being most common and $500 very rare and depends on what the agency considers as quality. There is usually very little difference if any at all between what the agency says is $300 and what they charge at $400. I have had some $300 babes much nicer to my taste than some $400 ones. I have repeated a lot with a $500 babe who actually helps run the agency, she has the best pair of natural boobs you will ever see, is very clean and we have excellent chemistry. I have paid $600 once for a babe who I suspect was a girlfriend of the guy who runs the agency. This was about 9 years ago and she would compare with the best that FKKs have to offer.

You are very fortunate with sugar babes especially at $200; sounds incredible. I have written off SA and non-pros. For now.

At this time I would cancel a girl who has a high temperature or cough.

Sugarbabes are a ton of work. Sometimes it feels like a full time wooing game and I wonder if I can actually get some free ones if I had done that much wooing and spent that much effort at a bar or other meeting place. On average, the chances of success with a sugar babe are like 10%, I. E if I hit up 10 girls with a Hello, may be get to fuck one at a decent price. Perhaps even less, say 5%? But if I was willing to go up to $400 to $600, especially $600, I am sure the chances of getting the girl into bed are much higher, perhaps north of 50%. However, for 600 I am sure even the very top sugar babes will stay over for a couple of hours at least.

[Oregon97]

Another example of more bullshit inspired by selfish lack of perception reinforced by conspiracy theorists.

For those who prefer evidence-based conclusion making, here's a list of peer reviewed studies that support the efficacy of lockdowns. For the rest, shut the hell up and let the nerds do the work.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7268966/

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/e.../PIIS2589-5370(20) 30201-7/ fulltext.

https://voxeu.org/article/effectiven...ish-experience

https://www.who.int/bulletin/online_...56701.pdf?ua=1

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0715190744.htm

Are there more efficient methods than lockdowns? Probably. To say that they are not effective is asinine and illogical.

Many thanks for the source material. Always interesting to read. Obviously it is not easy to conclude whether or not a lock-down is beneficial for this situation but given the severity of repercussions from a lock-down one would have expected some scientific rationale before such draconian methods were implemented. I just wanted to point out that perhaps the most qualified body in this respect, WHO, was completely against lock-downs in its recommendation from November 2019. As for the articles, the first one is written by one mathematician and one engineer, the second one from Lancet has been withdrawn (apparently due to serious issues with the methodology), the third one written by two economists, the one from WHO relates to China only (and we all know the background to the unfortunate lock-downs was based on WHO pressured to praise China's lock-down), and the final one was not clear to me who had written (BMJ). So most articles are modelling like the one from Imperial College in the UK which predicted millions of deaths in the UK even with a lock-down. We must be aware that most governments now need to justify the pain inflicted on its population by encouraging pro-lock-down articles. Overall, there is a lot of psychology in this but I am utterly unconvinced that lock-downs are the right method for this type of virus.

[Pistons]

Mursenary:

If all you manage to write in response are believed to be insults, I wonder if you are speaking out of your own background. Because these thing linger with me. And you have no idea what I earn, nor contribute, nor how social I am. I also lift more weights than you in some exercises, and I have played sports are a fairly high level. Although an ankle injury kinda stopped me. Otherwise I'd have made a 10 figure salary off of football by now.

[Turgid]

Thanks for the incremental color. I guess I misunderstood and called it a drought but you have been active since April. Nice! $400 is slightly pricey, what is the quality of the girls? 8's and 9's at FKKs? My usual for sugar babes is between $200 - $300, and they are comparable to FKK girls at 8, the $200 may be 6 or 7. Occasionally I have gotten lucky to experience some 9's on the sugar babe circuit but it is pure luck.

You would not reject a girl if a girl has high temp, would you? Is the money collected upfront on credit card?

The quality of the girls vary. Generally below FKK quality. The prices vary from $300 to $500 with $400 being most common and $500 very rare and depends on what the agency considers as quality. There is usually very little difference if any at all between what the agency says is $300 and what they charge at $400. I have had some $300 babes much nicer to my taste than some $400 ones. I have repeated a lot with a $500 babe who actually helps run the agency, she has the best pair of natural boobs you will ever see, is very clean and we have excellent chemistry. I have paid $600 once for a babe who I suspect was a girlfriend of the guy who runs the agency. This was about 9 years ago and she would compare with the best that FKKs have to offer.

You are very fortunate with sugar babes especially at $200; sounds incredible. I have written off SA and non-pros. For now.

At this time I would cancel a girl who has a high temperature or cough.

[Master Monger]

9% of the deaths in the USA are of people under the ages of 54. Most of the rest were not in nursing homes. Most of the rest had quality of life.

99.9% are either over the age of 65 and or have a preexisting medical condition. That 9% of the people under 54 would fall into the sick people category.

And no one is recommending lockdowns outside of temporary quarantines in some especially hard hit areas. For most people all that is suggested is social distancing, and when such is difficult or impossible, masks.

Which part of 77 countries that are completely closed off from International Travel are you not aware of? Or the 87 countries that are making it very difficult to enter the country. If they said we could travel anywhere in the world and do anything we want but had to wear a mask, that would be fine.

As to the crying about suicides, to use your logic, anyone who kills themselves over this pandemic had serious mental health problems to begin with and would have killed themselves soon anyway. Lololol Plus I've yet to see any credible stats that show any significant uptick in suicide rates in my country. They did increase 35% from 1999 to 2018 but that's of course pre-pandemic.

You are a sick bastard, who only understands and cares about his own little tiny world. Most of the people who committed suicide were parents who could not feed or support their children. They couldn't ask for help because everyone is so terrified of other people right now. Many of them were people disgusted that the world could even imagine to agree to social distancing especially for numbers of such minuscule proportions. Some realized how evil the world is and that people were too ignorant or too selfish to make the world a better place and just decided to checked out.

Those who have committed suicide are more brave than You or people like you who just accept politicians and rich people are evil and there is nothing we can do about it. "That is just the way it is", says the ignorant slaves. Committing suicide is better than being a slave.

Source?

Pulmonary fibrosis.

Mursenary,

You think healthy people are getting pulmonary fibrosis from COVID-19? Is that what your idiotic two word answer is trying to imply. Show me your source for that malarkey you incompetent sheep.

My source is the CIA world factbook data collection team. Those numbers are conservative and the real numbers will probably be much higher than 9 million suicides, 2 million small businesses closed down, and $32 Trillion in lost money from the middle to lower classes.

Let me remind you about some history:

Why just 5 months ago did the University of Alaska uncover that the government was completely lying about 9-11 and especially about building 7 of the World Trade Center towers and nobody is doing anything about it?

Where are the Terrorists?

Where are the weapons of Mass Destruction?

Where are the hundreds of millions of people with HIV / AIDS?

Where is Herpes?

Where are The cities nuked by Russia and The USA?

Where is the fuel that was never in 95% of the Russian nuclear weapons?

Why are there videos showing nuclear war causing the whole world to be blown up when in reality, if all of the Nuclear weapons In the world went off right now it would only make about 6% of the planet uninhabitable?

Why when Saddam Hussein asked the US Government if he could attack Kuwait to take back the land Kuwait stole while he was at war with Iran, did the US government tell him it wasn't any of their concern if he attacked Kuwait?

Where is the communist threat coming out of Vietnam?

Where is the communist threat coming out of North Korea?

Where is your brain after being manipulated so many times?

You believed all of those lies in the past!

When will you stop listening like sheep and start investigating like humans?

[Mursenary]

Of course Mursenary can say he listens to McAdonis, because McA lifts more weights than Mursenary. That would be according to the Chicago school of thought.

But then comes the question weather or not this actually changes anything. Because McA also has 0 background in this field of study. He just lifts more weights. And he just becomes an intermediary who in turn was 'enlightened' somewhere himself too! So one can argue that the two different schools of thought doesn't interfere that much in the end after all. The Chicago school also claim that there is a mutual discussion involved between the two. But then there must be a final middle ground in terms of outcome. And I very rarely see that. .

Kinda related to this as well. Maybe you saw the Neuralink presentation last night. And have been following the topic regarding consciousness. If I have understood this correctly, then the idea is that some of the guys at Neuralink actually think they can possibly may decipher what consciousness is. And apparently Elon Musk and many of them don't believe in it. The same goes for Ray Kurzweil with his predictions. They all believe that we may some day just upload our thoughts to a robot and live on there. I don't know myself. I believe the idea is a bit too risky. But if they are in fact right, then that actually also proves pnce and for all both determinism, and the absolute idea that the Frankfurt school with their brainwashing techniques are / were correct.

I run into a lot of people who consider themselves parts of various counter cultures. Some are creative or artistically gifted. Some are kind-hearted free spirits. But many others are just non-productive, pseudo-intellectuals who get their rocks off striving for the appearance of independent minded thoughtfulness. Funny thing is those people usually live lives filled with mediocrity. If they were so smart, why is it that those personality types often show no financial, social, physical, or professional success. You would think that gaming the system would be so easy for them. Hell, in a previous professional life, I met so many idiots pulling 7 figure years. The difference is that those idiots had balls and made moves while the pseudo-intellectuals criticize and judge but actually accomplish very little.

Living a five figure salary life, not contributing to society, with no social connections, no mentorship of the next generation, no internal sense of achievement, it's a terribly depressing existence.

[Mursenary]

9 million Suicides!

2 million Small Businesses closed down!

Over $32 Trillion lost by the middle to lower classes!

No theories here "Genius" these are facts! You can take your efficacy of lockdowns down to not efficient at all mister smart guy.

Source?

The craziest thing is these lockdowns are to protect those who are susceptible to COVID-19 and those are people over 65 years old or have poor health or weak immune systems!

Wouldn't your more efficient way be to lockdown those people and let the rest of the world get back to living? Doesn't that make sense? Wouldn't that be the better solution? So why aren't they doing that? I wonder why? Could it be they have different goals and agendas that make only locking down the few hundred million people in danger from COVID-19 not.

Possible? Answer me that?

Most people are so lazy or so stupid they don't even understand the situation. You will fall into this category if you can't tell me why we shouldn't only lockdown the few hundred million non-working, old, sick, drains on society that are actually at risk from COVID-19!

What is your brilliant answer you sheep puppet?

I am so sick of being reminded how stupid the world is everyday I see people sharing their opinions rather than looking at the facts and comparing the data!

Wake up or lie down and die so the rest of us don't have to deal with your ignorance!

Pulmonary fibrosis.

Too much MAGA energy in this post. Sad.

[Mursenary]

Mursenary: As far as I understood him, that was exactly what Oregon was trying to say as well.

Up untill the milennium there was however the idea that the Frankfurt School had been somewhat wrong, and that people were more swayed by informed 'friends', or people they knew. Which was a set of ideas formed at the Chicago School of thought (I can't remember the years this was proposed). But with internet, web 2. 0, google and all this red feed / blue feed. As well as the notion that most people seem to think they themselves knows best, the old Frankfurt School is making a a very very strong comeback. And some even claim it is irrefutably correct. Otherwise, people like Mursenary with absolutely 0 background in this field of study would listen to me. But he doesn't. Thus solidifying my point. And I also don't listen to a word of the vaccine jargon he jitters on about. Since I am anti-vax. I know better. Also solidifying this communication theory.

You understood Oregon wrong.

Lots of loose connection babble ensuing. That's generally how conspiracy theorists get from "point A to point 4," logical voodoo where the dots that don't actually connect. Pretty much opposite of the scientific theory that we all learned in grade school. Par for the course here.

[Pessimist]

The flaw with attacking lockdowns imposed in March and April is that such an attack is mainly based on hindsight. At least in the US, our federal government was very lax until March and wasted precious weeks in Jan and Feb. Part of that may be federal bureaucracy being ineffective and inefficient and partly because our President had personal political motives. Nevertheless, fact remains that those weeks were wasted. We were truly caught with our pants down so to speak. We saw what happened in NYC. Cuomo may have made some mistakes but there is no question that our systems were overwhelmed. If we had not done a national lockdown to the extent we did, it is obvious that many more would have died and perhaps would have spread in an uncontrolled manner. In the last 6 months we have improved our knowledge significantly. Now there are no lockdowns. Schools are open, colleges are open, shops are open, people are working. If economy is below full output level, it is because there are structural reasons and many people are still quite concerned about Covid. It is easy for some people to say "stop being afraid, go and live a normal life". That is your personal view and the people stating home and spending below normal have their own views. The economy is a result of all of us coming together.

[Paulie97]

Still in here screaming and crying with the exclamation marks because you aren't getting your way? The vast majority of the world doesn't want to do it your way, or the way that suits you best so you can get back to buying pussy. The sooner you accept what you cannot change the sooner your blood pressure will return back to normal levels. 9% of the deaths in the USA are of people under the ages of 54. Most of the rest were not in nursing homes. Most of the rest had quality of life. And no one is recommending lockdowns outside of temporary quarantines in some especially hard hit areas. For most people all that is suggested is social distancing, and when such is difficult or impossible, masks. As to the crying about suicides, to use your logic, anyone who kills themselves over this pandemic had serious mental health problems to begin with and would have killed themselves soon anyway. Lololol Plus I've yet to see any credible stats that show any significant uptick in suicide rates in my country. They did increase 35% from 1999 to 2018 but that's of course pre-pandemic.

But hey just keep screaming and spreading your misinformation in a monger forum and you'll likely live through this. Don't keep it all bottled up inside. Wink.

9 million Suicides!

2 million Small Businesses closed down!

Over $32 Trillion lost by the middle to lower classes!

No theories here "Genius" these are facts! You can take your efficacy of lockdowns down to not efficient at all mister smart guy.

The craziest thing is these lockdowns are to protect those who are susceptible to COVID-19 and those are people over 65 years old or have poor health or weak immune systems!

Wouldn't your more efficient way be to lockdown those people and let the rest of the world get back to living? Doesn't that make sense? Wouldn't that be the better solution? So why aren't they doing that? I wonder why? Could it be they have different goals and agendas that make only locking down the few hundred million people in danger from COVID-19 not.