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  1. #1143
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    You piss in working girl's mouths? Please remind me never to DFK a working girl again. I hope you do not shit in their vaginas. I do not enjoy rim jobs, I first got that in China and it never grew on me. The only toy I bring for girls to play with is my penis.
    Yes and penis is the best ever natural loving toy.

  2. #1142
    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro527  [View Original Post]
    You don't find many girlfriends to piss in their mouth or insert toys in their ass or give you rim job whenever you want.

    I have had many normal girlfriends and 90 % of them would never accept things like that.

    But we have a dirty mind right? So someone has to do the job for us!
    You piss in working girl's mouths? Please remind me never to DFK a working girl again. I hope you do not shit in their vaginas. I do not enjoy rim jobs, I first got that in China and it never grew on me. The only toy I bring for girls to play with is my penis.

  3. #1141
    Quote Originally Posted by HammerTime96  [View Original Post]
    540 deaths per million? Do you have any reference? What you say is complete nonsense, as the top spot belongs to Belgium, despite (it's massive lockdown and police state mask laws! Below are statistic and Sweden (no lockdown, no masks) is placed number 6. Ironically, Sweden is actually below (= better) Italy and Spain, where they has massive lockdowns and super strict mask wearing laws.

    Some hard statistics, instead of just unverifiable fantasy numbers:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/

    Here is a bunch of charts, comparing Sweden (no lockdown, no masks, no police state) to Belgium (heavy lockdown and strict mask protocols);.

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...ountry=SWE~BEL
    My reference is just official figures = Swedish rate is 540 deaths per million people and Stockholm being one of the worst capital for deaths rate.

  4. #1140
    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro527  [View Original Post]
    You don't find many girlfriends to piss in their mouth or insert toys in their ass or give you rim job whenever you want.

    I have had many normal girlfriends and 90 % of them would never accept things like that.

    But we have a dirty mind right? So someone has to do the job for us!
    I really don t need this, this is not sex. Even paying, even I know some guys like to receive GS or have ass licked and pay for this, but I would not even dare to ask for above. I find more interesting for sex.

  5. #1139
    Quote Originally Posted by Alessandro527  [View Original Post]
    You don't find many girlfriends to piss in their mouth or insert toys in their ass or give you rim job whenever you want.

    I have had many normal girlfriends and 90 % of them would never accept things like that.

    But we have a dirty mind right? So someone has to do the job for us!
    Blatant honest answer. Do that to your girfirend and you will get slap in the face.

  6. #1138
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    But very high deaths rate, 540/ million in Sweden with Stockholm as one of the worst capital in the World for deaths rate. I look forward to arrive in Dolomiti on this week, no risk in Stelvio or Mortirolo or Zoncolan, virus is not able to climb.
    540 deaths per million? Do you have any reference? What you say is complete nonsense, as the top spot belongs to Belgium, despite (it's massive lockdown and police state mask laws! Below are statistic and Sweden (no lockdown, no masks) is placed number 6. Ironically, Sweden is actually below (= better) Italy and Spain, where they has massive lockdowns and super strict mask wearing laws.

    Some hard statistics, instead of just unverifiable fantasy numbers:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...n-inhabitants/

    Here is a bunch of charts, comparing Sweden (no lockdown, no masks, no police state) to Belgium (heavy lockdown and strict mask protocols);.

    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavir...ountry=SWE~BEL

  7. #1137
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Every girlfriend I have had would have liked me to do dirty things to her. I, however, don't like doing to girlfriends what I do to hot hookers because after the act I don't see the hookers again but I spend lots of non-sex time with the girlfriend and will be somewhat spooked by the thought that she is thinking of all the nasty things that I would have done to her. Nevertheless, I demand BBBJ from all girlfriends that I've had.
    You don't find many girlfriends to piss in their mouth or insert toys in their ass or give you rim job whenever you want.

    I have had many normal girlfriends and 90 % of them would never accept things like that.

    But we have a dirty mind right? So someone has to do the job for us!

  8. #1136
    Quote Originally Posted by SinglePro  [View Original Post]
    I felt compelled to add my two cents here to hopefully help you understand. Pessimist has given you a valid reason, but, to many people, that is not even the main point. I think you are missing the root of the argument here. Why would you give up or give away something that is so private to you for free EVEN IF it's something benign, insignificant, unimportant, or no concern to you? Why would you want to be used? You aren't offended that people use you? Arguments like "I'm not important to be worried about being tracked", "only criminals worry about that", "it is not like I'm hiding something", or "no one cares about what I do" are NOT the point. I heard this kind of imbecile reasoning so many times. Good grief! Why would one be dumb enough, stupid enough, and idiotic enough to give away his personal bio data for nothing. Why?
    LOL, thanks for the kind words. Basically, I think your gripe is one of idealism with very few tangible manifestations stemming from a point of unwarranted self importance, selfish individualism even. That idealism may make some feel important but what often happens is that they sacrifice freedom of action or impose self restricting limitations for that idealistic sense of privacy.

    As far as others profiting, if someone benefits from my info and I didn't lose anything of substance or endanger my sensitive identity information to criminals, why do I care? Heck, do you have a mobile phone with any apps? Example WhatsApp? Yeah, people have already been profiting off of your info for years.

    Just because someone else wins does't mean you lose. Things are not always zero sum.

    Basically, I'm saying "get over yourselves."

  9. #1135

    That's NOT the point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    I never really understood why people are worried about being "tracked. " I mean, is anyone here all that important as to worry about a third party looking into your business? The way I see it, the only people needing to worry are public figures and criminals.

    I'm just a normal dude and the only effect that being tracked or monitored has on me is annoying targeted advertisements on my phone. No institution cares about my mongering habits or my movements. I'm not making frequent 6 figure transactions as to be scrutinized by tax or criminal investigation authorities. Not sure why all of the average paranoid conspiracy theorist would think that their information is all that important either.
    I felt compelled to add my two cents here to hopefully help you understand. Pessimist has given you a valid reason, but, to many people, that is not even the main point. I think you are missing the root of the argument here. Why would you give up or give away something that is so private to you for free EVEN IF it's something benign, insignificant, unimportant, or no concern to you? Why would you want to be used? You aren't offended that people use you? Arguments like "I'm not important to be worried about being tracked", "only criminals worry about that", "it is not like I'm hiding something", or "no one cares about what I do" are NOT the point. I heard this kind of imbecile reasoning so many times. Good grief! Why would one be dumb enough, stupid enough, and idiotic enough to give away his personal bio data for nothing. Why?

    That is the central point of the private data debate that so many people don't seem to understand. Keep in mind that whatever personal info you gave may not be useful now. Who is to say it may not become useful few years down the road. Who knows! This is not about worrying about being tracked. It's more about why would one be so gullible to give away his private data without being compensated for it. Privacy has a price. It's not f**king free.

    To give you a relatable example, I've visited many clubs as many of you have done. If I was asked to present my passport at the front desk, my instinctive response would be "why?" even though I probably wouldn't mind if given a valid reason. After all, I was not hiding anything or committing a crime. Right? That's what you would argue. Correct? THAT IS NOT THE F**KING POINT! In my head, I probably think something like "it's none of your business". If they insist on seeing my identification without a legitimate reason, I would show my passport (without handling it over) to tell them that if there were a police raid, I would have a passport ready. That's pretty much how far I would go. Fortunately, that never happened. No club has ever asked my passport as a condition to enter the clubs. HOWEVER, HERE IS THE POINT. As many of you may know, many clubs have a policy of free entry on your birthday. Do you know that? I will hold my passport and show them my birthday so that I can get a free entry. You see where I'm going here? I gave away my private information in exchange for free entries to the clubs. That would save me 65 Euro per club or 120+ Euro for 2 clubs / day. Hell, I even took advantage of that by visiting 3 clubs on that day. You get it now? I did not give away my personal data for nothing. I use it to my own benefit.

    When people go through your passport, they see where you come from. They know your ethnicity. They figure out your age. They find out where you've been. You see. They can build a profile of you. You may not care because you said you're just a normal dude and don't worry about being used for advertisement. You are missing the f**king point here. That's the kind of stupid mentality I used to have. Some people may end up using your personal profile to benefit themselves. They are making money off your private information without compensating you. Don't you get it? Why are you so stupid to let them do that? Imagine you filed a patent for an invention. Would you be happy if people use it in their products without paying you a royalty or something? I would be pissed and sue the hell out of those thieves. Think of it that way if that helps. Your personal bio data is owned exclusively by you as if you patented it. Understood now?

    You may still not agree or say that it is not a big deal, but it is a big deal to someone else. We value our personal data differently. You get it? At least you can now understand this giving-away-your-personal-data discussion from a different perspective. When you engage in a such debate with your colleagues or friends as I've done occasionally, you can now understand it from a different angle. The bottom line is that there is no free lunch dude. Your personal profile information has a price. Don't give that away easily. No way!

  10. #1134
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    I never said that there is a hard, fast rule. The article mentioned 50 percent, but I do not believe even the author meant that to be a hard or fast rule. The author seemed to center their discussion on risky behavior. Pessimist discusses this, stating that is not just the financial risk, but also the social risks. I have expressed similar opinions in the past when stating that many local, married men prefer discrete mongering option, so not FKK clubs but private apartments.

    Everybody's life circumstances are different. If you have been told you only have six months to live having a bareback gangbang and sharing needles with a few homeless WGs probably isn't that risky of a behavior. For most people, it would be. Visiting a FKK once a week, for most normal guys is not risky behavior. But for some men, visiting a FKK even once, would be considered risky behavior. For example, since BLM has been in the news, let's use Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton as an example. If either were caught leaving an FKK club, they would stand to lose a lot more than their wealth. Their careers and legacies would be ruined by the judgemental "feminists and impotent males". Both being religious men, they are held to a higher standard. They would lose all their followers. Family and friends would turn their back on them. For other high profile celebrities, like musician Justin Bieber, getting caught leaving a brothel was not risk to his career.
    Justin Bieber, a musician? I didn't hear. Herbie Hancock, Stevie Wonder, Stanley Clarke, Steve Lukather, David Paich, play music. Addiction is when you can't control even when you are falling in problems, not when you can afford to get pleasure everyday, when you don't have other passions like some real sports, working to prepare your cars, to do before because more enjoyable for you, then this is only jealousy and frustration for some who can't afford, when they would like to go as often but can't. Just what I read here and some French are the worst jealous, but when they are in club, we can see girls with them. Really no need for jealousy, I don't need to be jealous for these girls.

  11. #1133
    Quote Originally Posted by McAdonis  [View Original Post]
    I never said that there is a hard, fast rule. The article mentioned 50 percent, but I do not believe even the author meant that to be a hard or fast rule. The author seemed to center their discussion on risky behavior. Pessimist discusses this, stating that is not just the financial risk, but also the social risks. I have expressed similar opinions in the past when stating that many local, married men prefer discrete mongering option, so not FKK clubs but private apartments.

    Everybody's life circumstances are different. If you have been told you only have six months to live having a bareback gangbang and sharing needles with a few homeless WGs probably isn't that risky of a behavior. For most people, it would be. Visiting a FKK once a week, for most normal guys is not risky behavior. But for some men, visiting a FKK even once, would be considered risky behavior. For example, since BLM has been in the news, let's use Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton as an example. If either were caught leaving an FKK club, they would stand to lose a lot more than their wealth. Their careers and legacies would be ruined by the judgemental "feminists and impotent males". Both being religious men, they are held to a higher standard. They would lose all their followers. Family and friends would turn their back on them. For other high profile celebrities, like musician Justin Bieber, getting caught leaving a brothel was not risk to his career.
    W. R. T. Your second paragraph, I thought we were discussing risky behavior as a manifestation of underlying sex addiction, in the eyes of webmd or perhaps addiction psychiatrists (if they subscribe to the views of Webmd). I am not not saying those are my views nor did I say x or why is a risky behavior. What type of risk one is willing to take is completely up to that person. Far be it from me to even characterize some other guy's actions and behavior as risky.

    But yes, risk is also specific to that individual as you say. Using hookers was not a risk to Kraft in terms of financial risk but was a massive hit reputationally. For a retired male porn actor, if he is not getting any action of late in his private life and visits hookers or fkks, there is zero reputation risk to getting caught, the risk is purely financial (or health, if he is unlucky).

    Gino, who is not writing here anymore for a few months, called me a hypocrite a while ago because I am married and using hookers and he claimed he has visited FKKs with his work boss and co workers and challenged me to do the same. I don't know what type of work he does. In my case, visiting any of these clubs with anyone from my work place is a total no no. This part of my life is absolutely sealed. I would have as much chance of visiting these clubs with a boss or co worker as I would have of visiting with my spouse. But then again, I do see guys visiting FKKs with their wives (I think they are wives; didn't ask them) occasionally. So, yeah, everyone is different.

    BTW, you are right about married guys and privacy in your first paragraph, at least for me. I bit $ch and complain that America is a sex prison but if magically there was a big Artemis in my home city, would I visit it? Very unlikely. So yes, I can see some married guys preferring private apartments to FKKs out of necessity, even if they wished they could be inside the FKKs.

  12. #1132
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    So I see you've been around long enough then LOL! After a while, maybe you will learn to just ignore.
    You're right. It's a personal character flaw, LOL.

  13. #1131
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    What is the percentage of income one must spend on prostitutes before one is considered an addict? 25%, 40%, 50%, 60%, 70%, 80%, 90%? What if one is a billionaire? It is obvious that there is no hard and fast rule as to what constitutes a sex addict and it is very difficult to accurately place that label on anyone.
    I never said that there is a hard, fast rule. The article mentioned 50 percent, but I do not believe even the author meant that to be a hard or fast rule. The author seemed to center their discussion on risky behavior. Pessimist discusses this, stating that is not just the financial risk, but also the social risks. I have expressed similar opinions in the past when stating that many local, married men prefer discrete mongering option, so not FKK clubs but private apartments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    I think the reason the Webmd authors categorize the "risky behaviors" as addiction is because the damage is manifold and not just limited to a financial amount.
    Everybody's life circumstances are different. If you have been told you only have six months to live having a bareback gangbang and sharing needles with a few homeless WGs probably isn't that risky of a behavior. For most people, it would be. Visiting a FKK once a week, for most normal guys is not risky behavior. But for some men, visiting a FKK even once, would be considered risky behavior. For example, since BLM has been in the news, let's use Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton as an example. If either were caught leaving an FKK club, they would stand to lose a lot more than their wealth. Their careers and legacies would be ruined by the judgemental "feminists and impotent males". Both being religious men, they are held to a higher standard. They would lose all their followers. Family and friends would turn their back on them. For other high profile celebrities, like musician Justin Bieber, getting caught leaving a brothel was not risk to his career.

  14. #1130
    Quote Originally Posted by Mursenary  [View Original Post]
    It's like I have to constantly correct every one of this guy's false scientific claims, which seem to be copious.
    So I see you've been around long enough then LOL! After a while, maybe you will learn to just ignore.

  15. #1129

    Addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatLover  [View Original Post]
    EL: I think that you are wrong, of course alcohol and nicotine are just a legal drug with a lot of people addict to it and killing millions of people every year. Easy to know if you are addict to FKK or prostitutes just don't go for at least 1 year. If you can t you are addict.
    Well I easily pass this test. I'm not an addict! Yay! LOLOLOL!

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