Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Pistons]

Best projections opens the possibility of emergency roll out of the AstraZeneca vaccine as early as October.

Will you take it? Knowing that some vaccines may not show side effects for years?

[Mursenary]

(( German Research Minister Anja Karliczek says it's unlikely a coronavirus vaccine will be made available to the wider public before the middle of 2021.
Speaking at a press conference in Berlin, the minister said the government was providing funding grants to three German biotech companies CureVac, BioNTech and IDT Biologika to help speed up the development of their vaccine candidates. But she warned, "We should not expect a miracle. ".
"We must continue to assume that vaccines for the broader population will only be available from the middle of next year at the earliest" she added.))
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-la...000/a-54359931


Thats Depressing news, does that mean FKK club will not open until mid 2021 ! I was really hoping for December this year or January 2021 ! A vaccine wqs my hope, but it looks long time to wait.

If the translation is correct, then she's just saying to not expect one rather than that there will not be one. Sounds like she is just being measured, keeping expectations low.

At least 5 vaccines are beginning the final phase of testing, American Moderna-NIH, British AstraZeneca-Oxford, Multinational BionTech-Pfizer-Fosun, and 2 Chinese companies. Australia is also in the final phase of testing if an older vaccine, the BCG vaccine, can provide partial protection.

The first 2 phases requires showing safety and efficacy in small populations. The final phase's success hinges on efficacy in larger populations while watching for developing side effects. If one of these these trials passes phase 3 and gains approval, vaccine roll out can come before the winter. Best projections opens the possibility of emergency roll out of the AstraZeneca vaccine as early as October.

[Rocky V]

(( German Research Minister Anja Karliczek says it's unlikely a coronavirus vaccine will be made available to the wider public before the middle of 2021.
Speaking at a press conference in Berlin, the minister said the government was providing funding grants to three German biotech companies CureVac, BioNTech and IDT Biologika to help speed up the development of their vaccine candidates. But she warned, "We should not expect a miracle. ".
"We must continue to assume that vaccines for the broader population will only be available from the middle of next year at the earliest" she added.))
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-la...000/a-54359931


Thats Depressing news, does that mean FKK club will not open until mid 2021 ! I was really hoping for December this year or January 2021 ! A vaccine wqs my hope, but it looks long time to wait.

A good option at the moment is to enroll yourself in one of the vaccine trials in your country, if you are eligible. I'm planning to take one for the team and enroll myself for the Oxford / IRBM / AstraZeneca vaccine in the UK, but there are many in US and in other EU countries too. Vaccines have usually very minor side effects as they are inert pieces of proteins or DNA.

Rock.

[Pistons]

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Home/_node.html

Everything helps when the economy tanks 10.1% even after large stimulus.

And to those claiming p6 in Germany is minuscule. Never forget that money pouring into a country, can always be 5- or 10-doubled in terms of monetary circulation.

[ExpatLover]

Swiss administration is ready for anything for money, like WGs. Austria is small country with not so many big clubs. Germany is big brothel in Europe and they had to confine again many people.

Chinese are claiming they are nearly for vaccine, but I prefer to visit all opened brothels, rather than taking any Chinese vaccine.

Reply EL: I prefer take the Chinese vaccine for sure, if you don t like China, better you through away your phone, laptop, and even your car, even in a Porsche so many part are coming from China, I am working in China for more than 20 years in the supply chain business. Many people don t like China just because China is demonstrating how a organised government, an homogeneous society is able to provide a great living standard and safe life to the majority of their citizens. For example, is it possible for a young woman with sexy clothes to walk through Detroit, Chicago. In the night, for sure not but very possible in Shanghai, Beijing. US is a democracy but where is the freedom when you are not even able to move like you want, this is also true, in France, Germany, UK, . France wants to give lessons to all the rest of the world but never forget that they abolished the death penalty only in 1981, and in so many places you are not free to go.

[Tuber19]

(( German Research Minister Anja Karliczek says it's unlikely a coronavirus vaccine will be made available to the wider public before the middle of 2021.
Speaking at a press conference in Berlin, the minister said the government was providing funding grants to three German biotech companies CureVac, BioNTech and IDT Biologika to help speed up the development of their vaccine candidates. But she warned, "We should not expect a miracle. ".
"We must continue to assume that vaccines for the broader population will only be available from the middle of next year at the earliest" she added.))
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-la...000/a-54359931


Thats Depressing news, does that mean FKK club will not open until mid 2021 ! I was really hoping for December this year or January 2021 ! A vaccine wqs my hope, but it looks long time to wait.

[Sirioja]

Why is it that Swiss and Austrian FKKs have opened but not German ones when all three are Germanic lands (all the major clubs in Switzerland are in the German part of Switzerland) and the current rate of Covid19 is not much higher in Germany?

Swiss administration is ready for anything for money, like WGs. Austria is small country with not so many big clubs. Germany is big brothel in Europe and they had to confine again many people.

Chinese are claiming they are nearly for vaccine, but I prefer to visit all opened brothels, rather than taking any Chinese vaccine.

[McAdonis]

So, related to the comments a few days ago about clubs opening in Spain and how DE is being too cautious and that could shut the FKKs permanently, it seems BoJo is now requiring UK citizens returning back from Spain tourism to be quarantined.

Germany has now joined UK, in advising its citizens to avoid Spain.

According to this video at 1:15, "Polls show Germans continue to support the cautious approach of Angela Merkel's government": https://youtu.be/HizMJp0ShCs?t=75.

I take that to mean that, for time being, we won't be seeing mass protests in Stuttgart and Berlin like we did back in May, when many thought the anti-CV-19 measures were too stringent. I did, however, see some reports about young people organizing illegal, underground nightclubs. Other recent developments in and around Europe: Madrid requires masks in all indoor and outdoor public spaces. Nightclubs in Catalonia closed again. Late night curfew introduced in Antwerp. Travelers from Luxembourg not allowed to enter Germany without quarantine period.

[Sebastiane]

Why is it that Swiss and Austrian FKKs have opened but not German ones when all three are Germanic lands (all the major clubs in Switzerland are in the German part of Switzerland) and the current rate of Covid19 is not much higher in Germany?

[Sirioja]

I have to disagree here. FKKs are the highest risk types of setting for virus transmission. Think people density in a closed environment. With escorts the risk is comparatively lower with two people.

I fully agree brothels are the highest risk for virus spreading, girls being fucked by 10 guys per day, with many married guys returning to family, many old or fat. Of course, not without risk with escorts also fucked by many guys, when risk is everywhere, except with my friends marmots, when climbing my mountains for my great Summer.

[Woof Woof]

So, related to the comments a few days ago about clubs opening in Spain and how DE is being too cautious and that could shut the FKKs permanently, it seems BoJo is now requiring UK citizens returning back from Spain tourism to be quarantined. This goes back to the point that Corona is anything but truly behind us yet. The problem is that every time the new infections have slightly stabilized or down, people rush out to mingle, socialize and do other things. But that is leading to newer waves, and each new peak is bigger than the last. Europe has been admirable while we in the US have been atrocious. I hope they can keep it in control in EU, and I stand by my prediction that the chance of opening any large Hessen style clubs in DE is less than 5%prior to September and less than 25% prior to December.

With the onset of the flu season and the cold weather preventing the big FKKs from using the outside areas, I would put the odds of FKKs staying closed for the rest of 2020 at 95%.

[Woof Woof]

Reply EL: Escort business is booming in most of European countries but still at high risk for me may be even higher than FKK, there is no control, no cleaning, nothing.

I have to disagree here. FKKs are the highest risk types of setting for virus transmission. Think people density in a closed environment. With escorts the risk is comparatively lower with two people.

[Vector313]

The fact is that migrants, whether in the US, Britain or Europe, do the lowest paying most menial jobs that nationals of those countries refuse to do. Some are even worse off than if they stayed in their own countries. Then why do they not return home? Pride. I once witnessed at an airport in Colombia a young woman who was travelling to the US which was obviously her first trip. Her whole family and many relatives and friends came out to see her off. There was lots of crying, laughter and emotional outbursts seeing her off to immigration. The expectation is that she will send money back to them in Colombia. No way is she returning back home other than as a successful person on a temporary visit.

Got to disagree with you there. Most do not return home because in those countries (and especially middle eastern countries) the governments and sometimes the employers will bankrupt those workers to the point that they cannot return. Whether its jailing them for various infractions or simply not paying them enough for plane tickets or passport renewal, many literally cannot afford to go home. Now with COVID quarantine restrictions forcing many to do a 14 day self-paid hotel quarantine, many can't afford to go home even after getting a plane ticket because they can't afford the hotel on the other side.

[Pessimist]

So, related to the comments a few days ago about clubs opening in Spain and how DE is being too cautious and that could shut the FKKs permanently, it seems BoJo is now requiring UK citizens returning back from Spain tourism to be quarantined. This goes back to the point that Corona is anything but truly behind us yet. The problem is that every time the new infections have slightly stabilized or down, people rush out to mingle, socialize and do other things. But that is leading to newer waves, and each new peak is bigger than the last. Europe has been admirable while we in the US have been atrocious. I hope they can keep it in control in EU, and I stand by my prediction that the chance of opening any large Hessen style clubs in DE is less than 5%prior to September and less than 25% prior to December.

[ExpatLover]

I m not German, but I think escorting work in Hessen, if not in.

Reply EL: Escort business is booming in most of European countries but still at high risk for me may be even higher than FKK, there is no control, no cleaning, nothing.