Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Turgid]

I am planning punting again as soon as doable. So, to me I will take COVID-19 jab as soon as it is available. I will ensure that I will not infect other people. Also, I could do punting without being worried to be infected by other people.

So you will wait until you take jab from the State before you jab girls.

[BigBuddy69]

Especially the mental health care, we have terrible cases of mental disorders in France. Guys with very restricted interests or repetitive behavior patterns.

[Mursenary]

Yet for some reason, death rate in the US is not even the highest. Look at those terrible health care countries that have higher death rates per population: France, Belgium, Sweden, UK, Italy, Spain, etc. They really should work on their healthcare systems.

Not only for record for deaths, but also since 4 months soon and still spreading and even under high heat in southern states, but did You hear them claiming they are stronger than virus, when they have so many obese, diabetic and poor which is kind of disease versus this virus, even poor Africa which have ancestors manage much better. I think this virus show what they are, with a really crazy Trump which give a really bad image.

[Mr Ho]

I'm on the same boat, last trip 5 days at Sharks was on late February 2020 , I made my mind that next visit will be October / November 2020.

But all of sudden i feel now that I want to go As soon as possible, and I guess its the idea of ((deciding not to go VS can't go even if you want)) is the major motive for my feelings.

Hope this pandemic will END soon, with a vaccine hopefully.

You had similar schedule to me and similar schedule on mind, but for me, I did my 2020 mongering in early Feb., so I wait until next year when corona is over. Most likely, I be in FKK next year toward the end of year, if corona is over.

I think, there is no need to risk your health to monger.

[HammerTime96]

I live in Belgium and I'm frequently in Germany for business, when I used to combine business with pleasure and make a quick visit of an FKK. Trough Asian colleagues, I found out soon about the "Wuhan virus" (as it was known then) and in January I made my last visit to Sharks.

Every time since reopening the border I'm in Germany, I get nostalgic and I get that weird, lonely and horny feeling in my stomach when I get see "Darmstadt" on the roadsigns in the recent months, and I remember the good times I had there. I'm sort of curious to make a small trip to check it out, but I know I can also save myself the fuel, because deep inside I know it will be closed and empty.

Judging from the Germans I talk to, many expect a second wave in the Autumn, and I doubt the clubs will be able to open this year. According to my German colleagues, although Germany is slowly opening up, many restrictions are still in effect, such as registering when visiting a gym (physical activity, like sex) and 1,5 m distancing. Some of my German colleagues practice judo / boxing and those classes are still cancelled, or are limited to only body weight exercises like push ups, squats, burpees etc, all 3 m apart! (during sports, the minimum distance is increased to 3 m).

I also hope things will open up soon because I desperately need a sexual release, but not because of a vaccine as this will involve totalitarian measures like government tracking apps on your phone, with blackmail potential, but because people have finally come to their senses.

Yes, this is an unknown virus and yes I understand we should treated it with caution in the beginning. Nevertheless, IMHO we have to start seeing things in a realistic perspective again.

Despite all the millions of cases, none of my friends, relatives, colleagues knows anyone who has caught CV19 yet, all of us had the 'flu' during the last 6-7 months, and for the overwhelming majority the symptoms are very mild and even non-symptomatic. Some people die of the normal flu every year. Why didn't we shut down the entire world for that? Some people die of bee-stings every year, why is there no lockdown for that? People die in car crashes, so why not shut down all roads?

It's time to become realistic and start using common sense again: protect the vulnerable (old) people with weak immune systems and underlying health issues, but allow the rest of the world to live our lives without mandatory vaccines and mandatory tracking apps!

[Mursenary]

Anyone notice that there has been a huge spike in cases in Romania throughout June? Their numbers have always been low but the trend is concerning since they're starting to come back to work.

[Sirioja]

Rarely do I read something on this forum which I disagree on nearly 100%, but MasterMonger managed that feat. Congratulations. I won't bother to respond.

But with such 'ideas' floating around in USA, I now totally understand how and why covid-19 spreads so much faster in USA than it does in Europe!

Not only for record for deaths, but also since 4 months soon and still spreading and even under high heat in southern states, but did You hear them claiming they are stronger than virus, when they have so many obese, diabetic and poor which is kind of disease versus this virus, even poor Africa which have ancestors manage much better. I think this virus show what they are, with a really crazy Trump which give a really bad image. Of course, I follow You about China which is a danger for our health safety for me and when I see about Hong Kong. I know G7 countries are in own trouble, but I m surprised no reaction versus China. I m also a bit surprised about Germany being in trouble after confined, because when I stopped on first time to take gas on my way to Zurich, woman on desk, even with glass on desk, told me: German law is to put on mask in shops, now I put, I see everybody putting on when entering, nevertheless even with brothels still closed, they have some places in trouble. On Saturday morning, returning from Switzerland, it was real German invasion in France, for their holidays, looking for our sun, good point for our tourism, when we don t manage so bad to control our R0 after end of confined, except in Guyane but close to Brazil. Official figures at the moment tell about 500 000 deaths, for sure we know China with less than 5000 are far below truth, when US claim they have less for real than their own figures, but they don t know much for around 50 millions people living in their country. Maybe truth is more around close to 1 million and not finished when we see Brazil, India, still US after 4 months, Pekin Beijing.

[Sirioja]

That's because Covid-19 causes pneumonia in serious cases. This is a serious disease and you should not underestimate it. Unless you want to be this guy: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/co...ie-from-covid/.

Yes covid attack lungs for most. Only few died from kind of organism infection from reaction to virus.

[Mr Ho]

I am planning punting again as soon as doable. So, to me I will take COVID-19 jab as soon as it is available. I will ensure that I will not infect other people. Also, I could do punting without being worried to be infected by other people.

I went to Globe in Jan and Feb this year, so I may wait until next year when corona is more calm? I have done it this year, so why for me to risk my lung etc.

I think it is more travelling that is dangerous than actual mongering, train, airplane, airport, hotel restaurants, restaurants etc.

The truth is, we all have to live with covid 19 because we cannot stop economy anymore or people will die more with other causes.

[Tuber19]

I decided in early 2019 that I wanted to take 2020 off. After a decade and a half of steady mongering, I felt like I needed to take a break. So, I guess I could not have chosen a better year to do that. It's just that if you can have it but decide you don't want it, that's one thing. But when all of a sudden you can't have it even if you wanted it, well then psychologically that's another thing LOL!

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I'm on the same boat, last trip 5 days at Sharks was on late February 2020 , I made my mind that next visit will be October / November 2020.

But all of sudden i feel now that I want to go As soon as possible, and I guess its the idea of ((deciding not to go VS can't go even if you want)) is the major motive for my feelings.

Hope this pandemic will END soon, with a vaccine hopefully.

[Master Monger]

Rarely do I read something on this forum which I disagree on nearly 100%, but MasterMonger managed that feat. Congratulations. I won't bother to respond.

But with such 'ideas' floating around in USA, I now totally understand how and why covid-19 spreads so much faster in USA than it does in Europe!

That is so funny, you don't agree with facts. You can look up those facts, most of them came straight from the CDC website. It is funny how they tell you one thing in the title and then tell you whole truth when you read the whole story. Math is your friend, the virus is only spreading in the states the governor's want it to spread in, considering 76% of all the deaths are only in 10 states. Instead of believing what you think you know spend some time to verify it. If any one can prove my facts wrong, I would be delighted!

Have a wonderful day!

[Master Monger]

Secondly, even if death is not the end result, prolonged-debilitating illness in an otherwise healthy young adult is often the case with covid19. The economic cost of millions of otherwise healthy, young adults being out of the workforce due to a 2-3 week illness will in itself be rather costly.

That is not true sir, COVID-19 affecting young or healthy people is an anomaly and it could just be they were not as healthy as they thought. Also, any virus or disease that attacks ACE2 receptors can cause organ damage to anyone with weak or compromised immune systems or a weak or damaged organ that is not a special feature of COVID-19. Go do some research and you will learn that is true.

Of course I understand that according to their logic that if COVID-19 weakened the immune system to a point that it could not handle the constant invasion of billions of germs we face every second of our lives and they contracted pneumonia as a result, then COVID-19 is still considered the root cause or a multiple cause of death.

Let me explain why that is bad! You could cut your finger and the infection it causes could easily lower your immune system to a point where pneumonia could take hold, although trauma should be reported the root cause in this sometimes it is still reported as pneumonia. Usually as stated in any document written about COVID-19 you need to already have a weak immune system or an underlying problem before anything else can happen because in most cases your immune system is easily able to wipe out COVID-19. Breathing with a Paper cloth mask on greatly increases your chance of developing pneumonia and brain deficiencies because you are rebreathing CO2 and not getting enough clean oxygen to kill the germs in your lungs or feed your brain fresh oxygen so it can produce ozone in the brain to heal itself. Oxygen is the most miraculous element on the planet and oxygen combined with the right green leafy vegetables and 120 minutes of exercise a week especially jumping on a trampoline for 15 minutes a day can make your immune system super human and the trampoline will activate your lymphatic system. For people who do this everyday, even the once dreaded HIV is not really a problem unless you put too much bad stuff in your body like Sugar, Drugs, Alcohol, and tobacco.

Now if you are reporting pneumonia and influenza deaths as COVID-19 deaths and we look at the numbers last year and 60,000 died from influenza and 40,000 died from pneumonia and this year pneumonia and influenza deaths are way down then how can we determine the actual threat caused by COVID-19. Now if you read some of the other posts I have posted you would know that almost 80% of the deaths reported in New York State in the last 120 days have been COVID-19 related. Also the Doctors are now being allowed to fill out the death certificates completely and sign them themselves. We know hospitals get paid for each reported case, each respirator case, and each death. New York has 32,000 COVID-19 deaths which is equal to 40 of the other 49 states combined. New York only has 6% of the US population but they have 24% of the deaths and the other 52% of total deaths is among only 9 states The final 24% is spread among 40 states. Many states went out of lockdown months ago.

So, unless you can find something that factually says Covid-19 "will" "not can or could" cause long term organ damage then there is no threat from COVID-19 to people with strong immune systems. If you are old are weak you can take precautions but I recommend a spit guard or an actually non-cloth mask that allows you to breath fresh oxygen.

Please do research! We need to draw a line in the sand and make our governments aware this will not be tolerated. If not, what is coming in the future will be much worse. The minute we accept quarantining and marshal law as the norm we have already become slaves. Now, if in the future a virus comes along and kills more than 1% of the world population or 78,000,000 people then we can talk about possible quarantines as long as every victim's name is made public for verification. 132,000 people supposedly dead in America but I don't know one and I don't know anybody who knows one.

[Pessimist]

COVID-19 has most certainly both exceeded 1 and 2 million deaths by now. Easy calculations will land you at those numbers. And that is a low estimate. As many as 4-5 million might have already died.

Take Africa for example, the health system there is not functional, but among the 0.01 % that gets tested, there are still tens of thousands, or hundred thousand infected.

India has a semi functional health system. Maybe they catch 3-4% of everyone. Certainly less than 5%.

We can also safely say China is lying about the numbers there. Just taking death urns at the morgues, and then multiplying it up. The Hong Kong scientist had calculated 1.3 million in Hubei province alot had gotten the virus. And comparing that to the Wuhan morgue urns at the start of the pandemic, we can safely say about 50 000 has died in Wuhan, and 60-100 000 in all of Hubei. And that is just one vjinese province. Although most likely the worst hit by far..

I agree death counts are understated and can believe 1 to 2 mil. Not sure if 4 mil is believable. That implies 7 additional deaths for every reported death. There have been anecdotal reports of overflowing funeral houses etc here and there in Italy, in NYC, Brazil most certainly, Russia a little bit and of late in Mumbai and Delhi to some extent. Only in Brazil, Ecuador and LatAm one got the suspicion that death counts are perhaps severely understated and even there, not sure it was by 8 x.

But I am fully in agreement that infection counts are hugely understated in many developing countries that you included in your comment.

I think the demographic in these countries tends to be young and perhaps there may be other immunity benefits at work that we don't understand yet. Either way, I think infections are probably understated by orders of magnitude in many countries and death count by some amount.

[Adindas]

When the vaccines get developed, will you guys take the vaccines? If not, why not.

I am in bit of dilemma because I am concerned for its safety and I feel covid 19 will calm down within next one year.

I am planning punting again as soon as doable. So, to me I will take COVID-19 jab as soon as it is available. I will ensure that I will not infect other people. Also, I could do punting without being worried to be infected by other people.

[Pistons]

Rarely do I read something on this forum which I disagree on nearly 100%, but MasterMonger managed that feat. Congratulations. I won't bother to respond.

But with such 'ideas' floating around in USA, I now totally understand how and why covid-19 spreads so much faster in USA than it does in Europe!