Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[Sirioja]

Oh so you are allowed to do sport outside in Paris?

I have no pleasure to bicycle in bois de Boulogne among prostitutes, and along Seine is really beautiful but not climby enough for me, I need to enjoy my beautiful mountains to be motivated. I just prepare my best Summer pleasure, to forget no ski so big frustration, killing mood, no desire to go to fuck escorts. I also listen to music, you should listen to Bowie funny it's no game from ashes to ashes, when he played with Carlos Alomar and Earl Slick, it was before great Turkish Erdal Kizilcay and Gail Ann Dorsey, for daddy, as they joked. Also Led Zeppelin with legendary Jimi Paige and forever, since I learned to play football, Californian Toto with family Porcaro, 3 brothers playing, pity Jeff who was the boss, but died at only 38 from cocaine, but they are with me, since St George and the dragon, for 42 years, I m faithful for everything, like for WGs. Other kind of pleasures, far from my huge week end datcha.

[MaxSquatter]

One possible idea is for FKK's at first to only use their outdoor areas to placate to government rules. Many have huts and cabins and people could just stay outside maybe under tent structures for shade, eating, drinking then pick out the girl and go to the hut with her. Hopefully if need be they can do this and get this shit going again.

[Turgid]

Can the Admin perhaps create a separate thread for Coronavirus discussions and move all the posts to it --thus leaving this to the discussion of FKKs, girls and pay6?

I come to this forum to relax, not to discuss what I can do in the comments section of the Guardian or any newspaper!

This is true so please Mr. Sebastiane could you help people like me who come to this forum to relax by telling us your current experiences in FKK clubs in Germany now?

[Mr Ho]

I think the key is testing. Once you can test enough people daily, and I mean like 10% of the population per day so that you can quarantine everyone that gets sick right away, you should be able to get the R0 rate (average number of people each infected person infects) below 1 and the amount of cases will remain under control. You also need to be able to test for antibodies so that some people can be excluded from testing and just go on with life. FKKs will need to have a way to test all their girls and clients. I think this is the trick to FKKs being able to convince the government that they are not causing harm by spreading coronavirus. Today, testing needs to be done in a lab, but the ability to test on the spot and fast is being developed quickly.

Governments understand the importance of testing and it wouldn't surprise me if by summer, the ability to test quickly and on the spot is widespread. I suspect this is the next step in government response.

BTW. If a girl has already had it, she becomes the perfect WG at an FKK. She generally can't get it again and can't spread it to anyone again (assuming covid behaves like most viruses).

Also, sex with a face mask seems dumb. Most infections are caused by touching something that then gets into a your mouth, eye or nose. Can't very well have sex without touching. You can shower afterwards but I would assume you would get it if she had it. However, your genitalia is not really spreading respiratory disease and it doesn't take it in. I mean, how many times have you gotten a blowjob from a girl with a cold and not gotten a cold.

There will be major cluster infections at hospital if you do that. It is important to stay home, close your eyes, imagine the time you had in FKK, use your imagination well for once and make good use of your right hand LOL!

[Mr Ho]

You can be fit + healthy and catch the virus without any obvious symptoms. The only possible way is immunity, if that really works.

Just like STD, but never caught anything in FKK.

[BigBuddy69]

Oh so you are allowed to do sport outside in Paris?

No it's not. It's only allowed if you stay around your home (max. 1 km) for maximum one hour.

[Mr Ho]

Hmm, having been in University in Texas, I'm familial with the city of Paris Texas. Oops. Search Maps on your smart phone. It will show up North East of Dallas.

I have read your posts on Avigan to treat COVID-19. The USA has started testing of Avigan as a treatment 2 days ago. It was interesting to read that the drug was approved I Japan as an Influenza anti-viral but stockpiled by the government and not released to pharmacies for issue.

Avigan can only work for mild symptom, but better than nothing and Japan is giving out for free.

Till vaccines comes out, it may help a bit, hopefully. I hear it is expected to take about 1. 5 years for vaccines to be invented. Will world economy and FKK owners cash flow last for that long?

What are FKK cost when it is closed. Around 20 employees like reception, security etc. Property tax or rent if they are renting place etc. Maybe many new ownership to FKK after this crisis.

[Sirioja]

Yes. Some forms of sex games won't be safe. It is a bit at anyone's own risk. Similar risk exists in disco-dance clubs, if the dancers are starting to tongue-kiss, right? Similar risks exists in massage parlors (real ones), hair cutters, physio-therapists, etc.

Brothels were already risky about Chlamydia which is really not good for wives about pregnancy, or some other diseases, not even telling once more about HIV when AO, but will be Russian roulette now if You are not protected versus virus. Best protection will be to have recovered from, because who can know when vaccine will be efficient, when many problems in France about grippe vaccine. If no self protection, I don t see how can protect for sex, then can catch and even give to relatives. In France, we are confined until 11 May and we have a problem, not even telling about economic crisis and unemployment, but only less than 15% people were in contact with virus and about 5% only are considered as protected from recovering, this meaning so many people can still catch it after 4 weeks confined, when risk start to be under control when 60% were in contact, so we are very far to be able to control virus, but just able to try to save life and some who arrive in hospitals, nobody was refused in France, have lungs destroyed by virus and doctors can't do anything, only to give them pills for pain when they can't anymore breathe.

[Sebastiane]

Can the Admin perhaps create a separate thread for Coronavirus discussions and move all the posts to it --thus leaving this to the discussion of FKKs, girls and pay6?

I come to this forum to relax, not to discuss what I can do in the comments section of the Guardian or any newspaper!

[Kartoffel]

Are you serious? Putting mask for sex in brothels, just ridiculous, when many guys ask for sex without condom. Girls don't tell you about? I m only sure about one thing, brothels are risky for health, why Germany made new law, even not really working, but when Italy extend to 3 May, France extend now to 11 May and restaurants, hotels, discotheques wil stay closed until at least mid July. If Germany which seem to manage quite well virus at the moment, allow paid sex soon, then they will have many very bad cases with old, fat, and from other diseases. They should then compete very fast with US. Guys who are not sure to be strongly healthy, should stay away, same if they have fragile relatives and don't want to lose them. New risky world now in FKK land.

You can be fit + healthy and catch the virus without any obvious symptoms. The only possible way is immunity, if that really works.

[Mr Ho]

For sure, with no kissing, no good old BJ, no DATY, but masks for both, gloves for both and condom, real erotic, sensual plastic sex, today I was right to prepare bicycle, more enjoyable to rub my balls on seat.

Oh so you are allowed to do sport outside in Paris?

[Chongmal]

Thank you so much for the reply Sirioja. You do not joke in my opinion. Paris Texas is indeed a great movie. It is make believe. Paris Arkansas and Berlin New Jersey really exist. This is no joke. You make faux-pas

Hmm, having been in University in Texas, I'm familial with the city of Paris Texas. Oops. Search Maps on your smart phone. It will show up North East of Dallas.

I have read your posts on Avigan to treat COVID-19. The USA has started testing of Avigan as a treatment 2 days ago. It was interesting to read that the drug was approved I Japan as an Influenza anti-viral but stockpiled by the government and not released to pharmacies for issue.

[Jonodiera]

I think the key is testing. Once you can test enough people daily, and I mean like 10% of the population per day so that you can quarantine everyone that gets sick right away, you should be able to get the R0 rate (average number of people each infected person infects) below 1 and the amount of cases will remain under control. You also need to be able to test for antibodies so that some people can be excluded from testing and just go on with life. FKKs will need to have a way to test all their girls and clients. I think this is the trick to FKKs being able to convince the government that they are not causing harm by spreading coronavirus. Today, testing needs to be done in a lab, but the ability to test on the spot and fast is being developed quickly.

Governments understand the importance of testing and it wouldn't surprise me if by summer, the ability to test quickly and on the spot is widespread. I suspect this is the next step in government response.

BTW. If a girl has already had it, she becomes the perfect WG at an FKK. She generally can't get it again and can't spread it to anyone again (assuming covid behaves like most viruses).

Also, sex with a face mask seems dumb. Most infections are caused by touching something that then gets into a your mouth, eye or nose. Can't very well have sex without touching. You can shower afterwards but I would assume you would get it if she had it. However, your genitalia is not really spreading respiratory disease and it doesn't take it in. I mean, how many times have you gotten a blowjob from a girl with a cold and not gotten a cold.

[Kuni042]

I am also highly unsure if we get a vaccine done. Remember: there is no vaccine against the rhino-viruses (causing the common cold) - nor AIDS.

Also the virus may have mutated by then. And and and.

There is no way out:

I still believe clubs / brothels MUST adapt to the new normal and start planning for the worst. If everything turns out to be gone in March, so what? At least we are then prepared for the next one, e. G. The MaVid-22 (ie the new Marburger virus- only half-assed kidding here) or PoVid-24.

Every government / media talking about a vaccine as if it was, simple candy you buy from a supermarket.

Finding the correct vaccine which confers resistance to virus without a side effect, is a cumbersome process that isn't always viable at least in 2020.

Need I remind you HIV, the holy shittiest king of all viruses to ever exist, is hitting earth since at least 1980, yet till today ZERO vaccine available (40 fucking years), among other viruses such as Herpes, Hepatitis see, West Nile virus. Etc.

Not to forget to mention the previous two coronaviruses, Mr SARS and Mrs MERS, which were known in 2003/2012 respectively still till this date has zero vaccine or even a mere antiviral treatment. Granted those viruses weren't a pandemic which didn't put a pressure on government to provide a vaccine nevertheless it still shows making vaccine kr antiviral isn't a simple picnic.

Yes, I'm not a virologist, or immunity specialist, as each virus has its own genome either DNA / RNA and its special envelope and proteins, maybe the virology aspect of Coronavirus makes it an ideal target for a future vaccine that I can't give my input in (But again the previous two coronaviruses which were similar in structure still we failed to create a vaccine).

But for the life of me, I hope government don't put all hopes on an imaginary vaccine, HERD immunity is plan A, Vaccine shouldn't be plan A or be or see, it should be as close as plan Z if anything (little hyperbole for emphasis).

The day Germany / Austria / Switz declare no FKK till vaccine is a sad day. The only benefit of lack of FKK is that my wallet for a first time will start to swell, as FKK really damages my bank account, as it's my number 1 nonessential thing to spend all my money.

[BodyAnybody]

Not that you guys will miss me but I am just going to stop reading this thread for a while. I enjoy reading all the threads of places I've been and will return to. But this thread has become uniquely tedious of all threads worldwide. I recall this happened a year or two ago when 3 or so people just dominated the conversation with oneupmanship. Fortunately it eventually recovered. I hope the same is true here.

See you soon. (I hope).

If you think this is bad, don't go to the Tijuana thread.