International travel and Covid 19

[Zeos1]

Boris Johnson announced today that the UK will impose a quarantine on people arriving by air. He did not indicate a start / end date. I for one won't be traveling to any country where I would have to go into quarantine and / or the mongering destinations I would like to visit are not open as they were before this damned virus wrecked everything.

Quarantine on arrival seems to be gaining ground as an option for many countries. Also there are countries that are setting up, or talking about setting up, "bubbles" where other countries with the virus under control can travel with their country. Essentially bilateral agreements. These would be based on seeing active cases gone or almost gone, and no new cases for a specified period. Australia is said to be looking at this with nearby countries / areas.

For Canadian or US travelers. Quarantine seems to be the best or most likely possible option after outright travel bans are lifted. Countries that have got the virus spread under control will likely opt for that, at least for travelers coming from places with active cases.

BUT. We all wait for the actual announcements of policies by various governments.

[The Cane]

So on the list of options for countries another is this one. That they would allow visitors, but everyone would have to quarantine. This is currently the case in Canada, and it has been since mid-March, although it was only made compulsory under the quarantine Act sometime in early April. This applies to everyone. Citizens, residents, or visitors. If you have no place to go to in order to quarantine, and you are a returning citizen or resident, the government provides a place. If you are a visitor you would know before you board a plane that you have to do this so it is your choice, to come in and quarantine, or not come in. Land borders are closed to tourists / visitors both ways.

Boris Johnson announced today that the UK will impose a quarantine on people arriving by air. He did not indicate a start / end date. I for one won't be traveling to any country where I would have to go into quarantine and / or the mongering destinations I would like to visit are not open as they were before this damned virus wrecked everything.

[Zeos1]

Taiwan gives about US $50 each day to it's returning citizen, depending on the city, to stay in an approved hotel. Not all hotels are qualified. The citizen can stay at home if some conditions are met, like if you are the sole resident in the place.

So on the list of options for countries another is this one. That they would allow visitors, but everyone would have to quarantine. This is currently the case in Canada, and it has been since mid-March, although it was only made compulsory under the quarantine Act sometime in early April. This applies to everyone. Citizens, residents, or visitors. If you have no place to go to in order to quarantine, and you are a returning citizen or resident, the government provides a place. If you are a visitor you would know before you board a plane that you have to do this so it is your choice, to come in and quarantine, or not come in. Land borders are closed to tourists / visitors both ways.

[WindAngel]

More and more countries will start imposing 2 weeks quarantine for anyone coming in, even democratic countries that brag about human rights. For example, Britain is also currently in the process of implementing it. For many places already doing it, it is like prison. And you have to pay for it too. It's not free. The cost per day is equivalent to a 4 star hotel.

Taiwan gives about US $50 each day to it's returning citizen, depending on the city, to stay in an approved hotel. Not all hotels are qualified. The citizen can stay at home if some conditions are met, like if you are the sole resident in the place.

[Zeos1]

When international flights become more relaxed, it will be before it's 100% safe to do so. Just like economies are reopening before it's 100% safe to do so. So, we all will have to decide for ourselves if international travel is really worth it. Even when we can travel internationally, we might as well scratch mongering off the to-do list. Mongering availability is way down.

All true from the traveler point of view.

Guess I'm wondering about the national governments. When they're going to allow visitors in. Where I am it is 2 weeks quarantine for anyone coming in (except truckers, nurses, etc) and I think it will stay that way for a long time.

[Midwestern]

When international flights become more relaxed, it will be before it's 100% safe to do so. Just like economies are reopening before it's 100% safe to do so. So, we all will have to decide for ourselves if international travel is really worth it. Even when we can travel internationally, we might as well scratch mongering off the to-do list. Mongering availability is way down.

[Artisttyp]

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/safe...143000520.html

Shows how things may look in the near future.

[Zeos1]

I think it would be interesting and informative to have a thread to consolidate information on the return of international air travel during or after this pandemic. It seems like many feel it is a matter of weeks, but a few current indications look more like months. What countries are totally closed to non-essential visitors, what countries may be open but have no scheduled flights operating, and dates when countries are opening, and when flights might resume.

Many airlines show flight schedules to various places that are not yet open to visitors. This may be just to be ready. In case the country does open up. Or it may be to collect fare money that they then refund when the flights are cancelled. Eventually.

A few countries have possible opening times. Costa Rica, for example says June 15. But that still doesn't tell you who it will be open to, or whether this is just another possible target date that will be delayed again.

A few countries have said they may allow visitors / tourists but they would have to undergo a 14 or 15 day quarantine.

A recent report suggests that Colombia is looking at mid December.

I believe that governments are looking at different options. Possible options include:

1. Allowing flights and visitors from countries with little or no current cases. For example, no new infections for more than 2 weeks, and / or all cases resolved (recovered or died).

2. Banning certain areas and / or countries, much like most of the world did with China, or the Wuhan area, in January and February.

3. Allowing visitors after screening for temperature and symptoms before boarding airline.

4. Allowing visitors with an immunological test showing exposure and recovery from Covid, and or a test showing no current Covid infection.

5. Wide open as before.

My guess is that it will be one or a combination of 1 to 4. I don't think option 5 will happen.

But please. No need to argue about why it should be different. We're not the makers of policy. And from what I read on the forum. Thank dog for that.

So hard information is appreciated.