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[Qazwsx5]

I'd disagree with " they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc." Most of them may not see a tourist from one week to another. And then only in the 4 month holiday season. For a club to be viable it needs punters 7 nights of the week, 52 in the year. Or it's a club without girls. I'd guess there are, or at least were, around 40 clubs within a half hour drive of the CDS coast. (Manilva to Nerja) The expertise here seems to encompass 3 or 4 of them. I'm hoping to add to that by comprising a list of where they are & what you'd find when you get there. But don't expect it any time soon. It's a case of finding which of them still exist after a year of strife.

I agree with you, for the clubs and villas to be viable they do need locals too, you can't just survive on tourists. But tourists are also very important to them, specially during the summer months. Villas less so as they are not easy to find and are more suited to locals who are afraid of being spotted around known brothels.

[Qazwsx5]

Sadly the Mama San on reception at Scandalos have ultra fast watches! The phone will ring in your room usually between 10-15 minutes BEFORE the hour is up. The girls always say "oh I don't keep the time. I trust what they say". So a few years ago I took to the practice of saying to the Mama San, in front of the girl, "ok so please look at my watch. You can see the time is now, (for example) 11.10 pm, so we finish at 12.10 am correct?" Two things would happen after that: (1) the Mama San agree but hate it that you made such a display of this. They must be on commission on monies (normal in all clubs and brothels but this is taking the proverbial) (2) despite making it very clear that I was carefully monitoring the clock. You guessed it. Well before the hour the phone would ring. When the girl would say "no I'm with the guy who showed you his watch" they would leave it for the final 10/15 minutes before calling.

I reported this to the club management who said it is difficult for the receptionists to always keep track. Total nonsense. So when you add to the fact you are paying 220/60 the fact that they try to short change you on time, it has meant me having very serious reservations about returning to Scandalos.

Why would I return at all? Because it often has the best looking girls on the coast. Perhaps because they know they get 220 for 45 minutes!

The best looking ones I think are in milday palace and some expensive disco bars in Marbella area, but the quality is usually very good at Scandalos.

There are more girls at Estark now, it seems that the business is picking up little by little, they should be opening the bigger bar pretty soon as the restrictions are being lifted.

[Qazwsx5]

Certainly the bigger clubs do rely upon tourists. I know owners of three of of the largest and they would all tell you that without the tourists income would be badly hit. You will recall that in 2020 you predicted (wrongly) that clubs like E92 would go out of business. I told you then that would not happen. Well they have endured not having a lot of tourists (certainly from the UK and USA) but have survived. They wont close. Truth is that the clubs generate a lot of money. Their owners are not short of money. Even the smaller clubs are managing to get by.

Extensive golf options on the CDS, and the weather, mean the season is a lot longer than the 4 months you suggest. Indeed most golf trips are March-April then Sept-October meaning the "season" is as long as 9 or 10 months in some areas.

A list of the type you mention would be very useful but the expertise you suggest only spans 3 or 4 is significantly greater. I have visited every one of the 21 venues listed below.

So I will start the list and hope you complete it.

Starting at the far end of the coast at least towards Gib:

1. Cleofas. Small - family run by Tony and his wife. Campamento. Pool table really nice rooms and great service though seldom more than 6 girls and most punters are local Spanish.

2. E95 LOS Barrios. Sister to E92 in fuengirola. Not sure how it survives. Barely very many punters..

There is another one called club La luna, calle jazmines Marbella (aloha) , it is cozy club, never been inside, but the other day I saw it from outside.

[Sirioja]

Sadly the Mama San on reception at Scandalos have ultra fast watches! The phone will ring in your room usually between 10-15 minutes BEFORE the hour is up. The girls always say "oh I don't keep the time. I trust what they say". So a few years ago I took to the practice of saying to the Mama San, in front of the girl, "ok so please look at my watch. You can see the time is now, (for example) 11.10 pm, so we finish at 12.10 am correct?" Two things would happen after that: (1) the Mama San agree but hate it that you made such a display of this. They must be on commission on monies (normal in all clubs and brothels but this is taking the proverbial) (2) despite making it very clear that I was carefully monitoring the clock. You guessed it. Well before the hour the phone would ring. When the girl would say "no I'm with the guy who showed you his watch" they would leave it for the final 10/15 minutes before calling.

I reported this to the club management who said it is difficult for the receptionists to always keep track. Total nonsense. So when you add to the fact you are paying 220/60 the fact that they try to short change you on time, it has meant me having very serious reservations about returning to Scandalos.

Why would I return at all? Because it often has the best looking girls on the coast. Perhaps because they know they get 220 for 45 minutes!.

Real killing pleasure from Scandalos staff, no way for me, when I m used girls don t rush me about time, and I m not into Latinas, I trust more Romanians, less fake and usually quite honest.

[PayForIt]

Thanks for list. What You mean with lucky to get full hour? Latinas are rushing to finish? When 220/60. Where are prettiest Caucasian natural looks I look for?

Sadly the Mama San on reception at Scandalos have ultra fast watches! The phone will ring in your room usually between 10-15 minutes BEFORE the hour is up. The girls always say "oh I don't keep the time. I trust what they say". So a few years ago I took to the practice of saying to the Mama San, in front of the girl, "ok so please look at my watch. You can see the time is now, (for example) 11.10 pm, so we finish at 12.10 am correct?" Two things would happen after that: (1) the Mama San agree but hate it that you made such a display of this. They must be on commission on monies (normal in all clubs and brothels but this is taking the proverbial) (2) despite making it very clear that I was carefully monitoring the clock. You guessed it. Well before the hour the phone would ring. When the girl would say "no I'm with the guy who showed you his watch" they would leave it for the final 10/15 minutes before calling.

I reported this to the club management who said it is difficult for the receptionists to always keep track. Total nonsense. So when you add to the fact you are paying 220/60 the fact that they try to short change you on time, it has meant me having very serious reservations about returning to Scandalos.

Why would I return at all? Because it often has the best looking girls on the coast. Perhaps because they know they get 220 for 45 minutes!

In answer to your question Sirioja. You will get the best looking Caucasian girls still in either Scandalos or E92. Whilst Scandalos has more latinas there are still a reasonable proportion of EE girls. And that was still the case in 2020. I have not been to either club, or Spain at all in 2021. I am making plans to get there in the next 2 to 3 months work and travel restrictions permitting. I have been on the other side of the world for nearly 6 months so getting to Spain would not have been easy. I am hoping that will change in the next few months.

Back to the list. Whilst Andalus Expat has offered to draw up a list, if anyone else can add to the list I have already produced I am sure we would all benefit from a complete list.

[Sirioja]

Thanks for list. What You mean with lucky to get full hour? Latinas are rushing to finish? When 220/60. Where are prettiest Caucasian natural looks I look for?

[PayForIt]

I'd disagree with " they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc." Most of them may not see a tourist from one week to another. And then only in the 4 month holiday season. For a club to be viable it needs punters 7 nights of the week, 52 in the year. Or it's a club without girls. I'd guess there are, or at least were, around 40 clubs within a half hour drive of the CDS coast. (Manilva to Nerja) The expertise here seems to encompass 3 or 4 of them. I'm hoping to add to that by comprising a list of where they are & what you'd find when you get there. But don't expect it any time soon. It's a case of finding which of them still exist after a year of strife.

Certainly the bigger clubs do rely upon tourists. I know owners of three of of the largest and they would all tell you that without the tourists income would be badly hit. You will recall that in 2020 you predicted (wrongly) that clubs like E92 would go out of business. I told you then that would not happen. Well they have endured not having a lot of tourists (certainly from the UK and USA) but have survived. They won’t close. Truth is that the clubs generate a lot of money. Their owners are not short of money. Even the smaller clubs are managing to get by.

Extensive golf options on the CDS, and the weather, mean the season is a lot longer than the 4 months you suggest. Indeed most golf trips are March-April then Sept-October meaning the "season" is as long as 9 or 10 months in some areas.

A list of the type you mention would be very useful but the expertise you suggest only spans 3 or 4 is significantly greater. I have visited every one of the 21 venues listed below.

So I will start the list and hope you complete it.

Starting at the far end of the coast at least towards Gib:

1. Cleofas. Small - family run by Tony and his wife. Campamento. Pool table really nice rooms and great service though seldom more than 6 girls and most punters are local Spanish.

2. E95 LOS Barrios. Sister to E92 in fuengirola. Not sure how it survives. Barely very many punters.

3. Sala Platinum bar. Huge club opposite side of N340 on way to Algeciras, along from E95 but on other side. Black and white stripes decor outside, classy bar but every time I've tried it the girls have been very averages.

4. Fontana. LOS barrios by guardacorte park hotel. One of the big clubs. Now 180// hour. Some very pretty long time girls there. At one point was IMHO the best club on the coast but declined in 2020/ with pandemic and slightly before.

5. Club Aladdin. West of Estepona opposite Hotel Elba on other side of N340 - some great selections in 2018 but has declined.

6. Glass Palace Estepona. Formerly Oasis. Prices are now 200/ you. Fabulous rooms. Entrance is not punter friendly but always a few good options.

7. Robertinos. Sign with dancing leg outside. Same side as GP Estepona, heavily lit at night. Hit and miss over the years. Often older girls available.

8. Club California. End of shops by garden centre. Same side Estepona bound of N340 from Marbella but rarely decent options.

9. Golf Hole 19 - same group of shops as (8) - all oriental offerings.

10. Club Bel Air. Tiny club at on Urb Bel Air / Benavista (roadside of El Paraiso). Surprisingly decent options from time to time, popular in the urbanisation.

11. Club Playboy. San Pedro. Recently refurbished (beach side of the town).

12. Miladys Palace. Marbella - Golden Mile most expensive club on the coast - 300/ hour but some great quality.

13. Cleopatras. Neuva Andalusia. Often closed!

14. E92/ Star of the Sea. Carajval / Fuengirola. Best club on this end of the coast for the past 2 years.

15. Club LE Coq the'Or. Close to E92 opposite casino in Torrequebrada. Small - only been once and not impressed.

16. Milady Palace. Marbella golden mile. Most expensive club on CDS with girls 300/ hour but top quality.

17. Villa Walla. Small villa close to MP (16 above). Expensive and no time given to drink / select. True of most villas I have been to but that's only 3 of them! Many pop up then disappear so it isnt really correct to include them on a clubs list.

18. Casa Masa. Another villa on golden mile Marbella. Ditto 17 above 250/ hour.

19. New Scandalos. Malaga / Guadalhorce. Was the best club on the coast with the best girls but pricing in 2018 went mad. Now 220 / hour and you will be lucky to get a full hour. Mainly Latina girls.

20. Glass palace Malaga. Across road from Scandalos. Sister of GP Estepona. Big club, cheaper prices but low quality offerings.

21. Salas Divas. Only been once. Malaga - 10 minutes from Scandalos. Small but decent options.

I've not included pick up bars where escorts are available from line up. Too many to list. Most famous Navy Bar and Havana in Puerto Banus and Casino there at Andalusia Plaza hotel.

I don't venture east of Malaga to monger!

I'm sure there are many I have missed but the above list is at least a start.

[Andalus Expat]

Whilst (for once) I don't disagree with most of your post (see below), truth is that a lot of locals nurse one or two beers for 4 hours whilst they ogle the girls. That is hardly boosting club income. Clubs make income from the girls who pay to work there as well as punters. And then they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc. In a club like E92 the club receives no money when a punter takes a girl to the room.

I'd disagree with " they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc." Most of them may not see a tourist from one week to another. And then only in the 4 month holiday season. For a club to be viable it needs punters 7 nights of the week, 52 in the year. Or it's a club without girls. I'd guess there are, or at least were, around 40 clubs within a half hour drive of the CDS coast. (Manilva to Nerja) The expertise here seems to encompass 3 or 4 of them. I'm hoping to add to that by comprising a list of where they are & what you'd find when you get there. But don't expect it any time soon. It's a case of finding which of them still exist after a year of strife.

[PayForIt]

I've pointed out before the basic misapprehension of the place the 'puti club' has in Spanish culture.

Whilst (for once) I don't disagree with most of your post (see below), truth is that a lot of locals nurse one or two beers for 4 hours whilst they ogle the girls. That is hardly boosting club income. Clubs make income from the girls who pay to work there as well as punters. And then they rely on tourists willing to pay for a good night, plenty of drinks etc. In a club like E92 the club receives no money when a punter takes a girl to the room.

We will always disagree about there being "far better sex much cheaper" outside of clubs. Bait and switch on escort sites means it is not even on a par let alone far better. Most tourists don't have time to spend hours acquainting themselves with who is and who is not good independently. And having had a LOT of experience of mongering in clubs, and outside of them, in my opinion the option to select from a large line up, when added to the quality of sex I have often enjoyed in clubs, mean they beat the alternatives hands down. And if that wasn't true. I would stop going to the clubs! But I never will.

[Sirioja]

I've pointed out before the basic misapprehension of the place the 'puti club' has in Spanish culture. Few of the locals would be going to a club purely to have sex with the girls. Why would they? They know where they can get far better sex much cheaper. They're going to a club for what you see. Drinking. Flirting with the girls. Getting their egos groomed. Maybe they'll take it further with a girl. Maybe they won't. The business model of the club is set up for this. It makes its money from renting rooms to the girls & over the bar. Drinks for the customers. Drinks bought by the customers for the girls. On which the girls normally get a kick-back. It's a matter of indifference to the club whether a girl takes a client upstairs or not. These guys are not "time wasters" to the club, as long as they're putting money over the bar. They're the club's bread & butter. If the clubs just sold sex, they'd go out of business. There's no way they could legally make money out of doing so. To the club, YOU may be the "time waster". If you're giving your money to the girls, not to the club. Of course, a club where no client ever took a girl upstairs would soon lose its girls. The attraction gets the customers in, in the first place. They won't hang around if they're not earning. And a puti club without its girls is just another bar.

Interesting. Not drinking alcohol, I will be a real waster for brothels, I prefer beauties who give me more pleasure than having brain in fog.

[Andalus Expat]

Sirioja.I agree with PFI about time wasters and might ad that I think that mainly locals in the clubs in Spain are time wasters as many of them are in the clubs to drink and to a greater extent than tourists are touchy / feeling the girls without the intention of having sex, this according to club-girls I have get to know over the years. Of course there are drunk tourists behaving badly as well, so no pun intended.

I've pointed out before the basic misapprehension of the place the 'puti club' has in Spanish culture. Few of the locals would be going to a club purely to have sex with the girls. Why would they? They know where they can get far better sex much cheaper. They're going to a club for what you see. Drinking. Flirting with the girls. Getting their egos groomed. Maybe they'll take it further with a girl. Maybe they won't. The business model of the club is set up for this. It makes its money from renting rooms to the girls & over the bar. Drinks for the customers. Drinks bought by the customers for the girls. On which the girls normally get a kick-back. It's a matter of indifference to the club whether a girl takes a client upstairs or not. These guys are not "time wasters" to the club, as long as they're putting money over the bar. They're the club's bread & butter. If the clubs just sold sex, they'd go out of business. There's no way they could legally make money out of doing so. To the club, YOU may be the "time waster". If you're giving your money to the girls, not to the club. Of course, a club where no client ever took a girl upstairs would soon lose its girls. The attraction gets the customers in, in the first place. They won't hang around if they're not earning. And a puti club without its girls is just another bar.

[Sirioja]

I have never been to Aphrodisia. Tried Globe but only once and whilst the quality of service was fabulous (at least from the three girls I sessioned) the prices are quite high and the club looked tired to me. But then I find everything in Switzerland is expensive! I believe Andiamo (Austria / Villach) is open again and I know you've been there before (and Wellcum but I think it is closed still? Never been to Sixens but would like to try it. I agree with you that Germany / FKKs look doomed for 2021.

So to CDS. You would have plenty of options if you went for a week Sirioja. Sun by day and they have in the last two years worked really hard on the Senda Litoral De Malaga (Malaga coastal path) and if when completed will run from Nerja to Manilva and span 163 kms. I know you love your fitness (as do I) so you could use it for running / cycling / roller blading! As Qazsx5 says, for upmarket try Miladys Palace. Central Marbella. Girls are 300 e / hour. The club is actually similar in decor to Globe! There are several villas with attractive girls around pools in the Marbella area. Scandalos was the top club in Malaga. Rooms are horribly basic and fees are now 220/ hour but the standard is usually high. On your drive back to Paris go via Madrid and try Club Vive when it is open. Undoubtedly the best standard of any club I have been to anywhere in the world. A LOT of 10/10's and you would not just go once - 240/ hour but the quality really is superb. And then our little E92 and its beauties at a very reasonable 150/ hour.

You should try Spain this summer.

Wellcum reopened on Summer 2020 and GT Vienna, but not Andiamo unfortunately. Will see on 2021. Before starting my climbing tour on June for whole sporty Summer until October, I wish to go to Spain for the sea, relaxing me, for sun, good foods, sea and sex if I find pretty girls in CDS and Catalunya, when I m only attracted by pretty Caucasian types, so Scandalos and Vive should not be for me, when You told about pretty Romanians in Estark. My eyes will choose, I only trust them for my pleasure. Could also give a look at Miladys Marbella, looking for Romanian or Slavian beauties. Also heard about the Angelo Alicante. Should be busy holidays.

[PayForIt]

Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020 .

I have never been to Aphrodisia. Tried Globe but only once and whilst the quality of service was fabulous (at least from the three girls I sessioned) the prices are quite high and the club looked tired to me. But then I find everything in Switzerland is expensive! I believe Andiamo (Austria / Villach) is open again and I know you've been there before (and Wellcum but I think it is closed still? Never been to Sixens but would like to try it. I agree with you that Germany / FKKs look doomed for 2021.

So to CDS. You would have plenty of options if you went for a week Sirioja. Sun by day and they have in the last two years worked really hard on the Senda Litoral De Malaga (Malaga coastal path) and if when completed will run from Nerja to Manilva and span 163 kms. I know you love your fitness (as do I) so you could use it for running / cycling / roller blading! As Qazsx5 says, for upmarket try Miladys Palace. Central Marbella. Girls are 300 e / hour. The club is actually similar in decor to Globe! There are several villas with attractive girls around pools in the Marbella area. Scandalos was the top club in Malaga. Rooms are horribly basic and fees are now 220/ hour but the standard is usually high. On your drive back to Paris go via Madrid and try Club Vive when it is open. Undoubtedly the best standard of any club I have been to anywhere in the world. A LOT of 10/10's and you would not just go once - 240/ hour but the quality really is superb. And then our little E92 and its beauties at a very reasonable 150/ hour.

You should try Spain this summer.

[Sirioja]

Well, the girls at estark are not bad, but if you are looking for high end of the market, then there is milady palace in Marbella and some private villas surrounding puerto banus, but that's 300 euros upward an hour, also you can find some independent ones at expensive bars and restaurants over there.

I like pretty faces with slim natural body, looking like normal Caucasian women. Not silicon nor tattoos nor heavy make up like a stolen car.

[Qazwsx5]

Very expensive girls rate pay drinks, including whisky or vodka, at Aphrodisia, but was never able to find a wow look there worthing such rate, when saw some who were in Germany before. Aphrodisia is elephant cemetary for WGs, the end of the road. I wish girls are prettier at Estark, to worth so many kilometers from Paris. I doubt for Germany for this Summer, maybe Austria, Switzerland and 6 ens NL, like on 2020.

Well, the girls at estark are not bad, but if you are looking for high end of the market, then there is milady palace in Marbella and some private villas surrounding puerto banus, but that's 300 euros upward an hour, also you can find some independent ones at expensive bars and restaurants over there.