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  1. #92
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    That's really easy for me. Julia is one of the best looking escorts I've been with. But she is brunette. Stunning though. Of the blondes I would rate them as follows:

    Alicia. Personality and attitude 10/10 - nicest girl in the club. Great natural boobs, good service, curly hair (long) body 8/10, looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

    Ina - (not Ana) - looks like Ivana Trump. V tall. Pretty. Attitude 9/10. Body. Slim 9/10 (small natural boobs), great legs. Looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

    Ana. Rarely there during pandemic. Looks ver like Marilyn Monroe. Same hair. Unmissable. Looks 9/10. Body 8/10, attitude - 7/10 very intelligent girl but perhaps a little cold.

    Marianna. Mouse blonde. Looks 6/10 body 8/10 service 9/10.

    Maria. Short bob blonde hair in a bun on top. Attitude 10/10. Service 9/10. Looks 7/10 and body 6/10 (a little curvy for me but great service).

    Nicole. Short blonde hair always wears glasses. Attitude 10/10, service 9/10, body 8/10, looks 7/10. Lovely girl.

    Hope that's enough. Keep safe and enjoy when you get there!
    When I think will be complicated for Germany in 2021, maybe reopening in Austria and probably in Switzerland, when no ski big frustration again on this Winter, then sun and sea, with good ham with tomatoes on bread and good meat to enjoy in Spain. When much more attracted by East Europeans who close eyes and open mouth but with not much noises until storm in their belly, rather than fake porn moaning Latinas who are killing desire for me, is Estark92 more with East Europeans or Latinas? When new Scandalo seem more for Latinas? When really far from Paris, but Spain motorways are relaxing pleasure, like in Italy, when Germany is world champion for works on motorway, for low average speed.

  2. #91

    Estark

    Estark is open from 13 till 18 , you can stay longer if you are willing to book a room and stay there.

    Few girls come down to the bar at 13, though Julia and a few other nice ones are down in the bar around 1 o'clock with a few not so popular ones. You do not get attacked as expected, the atmosphere is quite chill with few punters, most of the girls start coming down to the bar at round 3 o'clock (after eating their lunch I guess), it is busiest at round 4 pm till 6 pm. Prices are same as before 30/75 (+5 for sheet and towel) or 60/150.

    The girls are quite nice and very not pushy at all, and didn't ask for drinks or anything. Julia very nice person and great service.

  3. #90

    Estrak

    Estark is open from 13 till 18, you can stay longer if you are willing to book a room and stay there.

    Few girls come down to the bar at 13, though Julia and a few other nice ones are down in the bar around 1 o'clock with a few not so popular ones. You do not get attacked as expected, the atmosphere is quite chill with few punters, most of the girls start coming down to the bar at round 3 o'clock (after eating their lunch I guess), it is busiest at round 4 pm till 6 pm. Prices are same as before 30/75 (+5 for sheet and towel) or 60/150.

    The girls are quite nice and very not pushy at all, and didn't ask for drinks or anything. Julia very nice person and great service.

  4. #89
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Thank you very much.

    It is great to know these things beforehand, so I think I must try Julia and Ina. Lets hope that they are not busy when I visit. Do they normally make an approach or I must go towards them?(I guess, the latter).
    Firstly you are in luck as they are best friends and will be located together unless one is busy. Easy to spot. Just look for Ivana Trump. Tall blonde very slim! Both excellent in the room. You will need to approach. They don't "work the room" as they don't really need to. They are popular. But although Ina can look a bit stern, she and Julia are really friendly and will be very happy to chat and make you feel relaxed. Have fun!

  5. #88
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    That's really easy for me. Julia is one of the best looking escorts I've been with. But she is brunette. Stunning though. Of the blondes I would rate them as follows:

    Alicia. Personality and attitude 10/10 - nicest girl in the club. Great natural boobs, good service, curly hair (long) body 8/10, looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

    Ina - (not Ana) - looks like Ivana Trump. V tall. Pretty. Attitude 9/10. Body. Slim 9/10 (small natural boobs), great legs. Looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

    Ana. Rarely there during pandemic. Looks ver like Marilyn Monroe. Same hair. Unmissable. Looks 9/10. Body 8/10, attitude - 7/10 very intelligent girl but perhaps a little cold.

    Marianna. Mouse blonde. Looks 6/10 body 8/10 service 9/10.

    Maria. Short bob blonde hair in a bun on top. Attitude 10/10. Service 9/10. Looks 7/10 and body 6/10 (a little curvy for me but great service).

    Nicole. Short blonde hair always wears glasses. Attitude 10/10, service 9/10, body 8/10, looks 7/10. Lovely girl.

    Hope that's enough. Keep safe and enjoy when you get there!
    Thank you very much.

    It is great to know these things beforehand, so I think I must try Julia and Ina. Lets hope that they are not busy when I visit. Do they normally make an approach or I must go towards them?(I guess, the latter).

  6. #87
    Totally agree, these 3 places are also lovely varied tourist destinations. Comparable to Medellin, Cartagena and Bogota in Colombia: each place has something unique. It is rather easy and cheap to travel: train or air. I would add that it is cheap and easy to fly over to let's say Berlin or London.

    All this is when corona-situation gets better.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Madrid, costa del sol (Malaga) (this page actually), and Barcelona.

  7. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Thanks PFI,

    I prefer blonde, and I think you said there is Ana in estark who is blond. How was your experience with this one, services? And who do you think is the most beautiful one currently working there?
    That's really easy for me. Julia is one of the best looking escorts I've been with. But she is brunette. Stunning though. Of the blondes I would rate them as follows:

    Alicia. Personality and attitude 10/10 - nicest girl in the club. Great natural boobs, good service, curly hair (long) body 8/10, looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

    Ina - (not Ana) - looks like Ivana Trump. V tall. Pretty. Attitude 9/10. Body. Slim 9/10 (small natural boobs), great legs. Looks 8/10 and service 9/10.

    Ana. Rarely there during pandemic. Looks ver like Marilyn Monroe. Same hair. Unmissable. Looks 9/10. Body 8/10, attitude - 7/10 very intelligent girl but perhaps a little cold.

    Marianna. Mouse blonde. Looks 6/10 body 8/10 service 9/10.

    Maria. Short bob blonde hair in a bun on top. Attitude 10/10. Service 9/10. Looks 7/10 and body 6/10 (a little curvy for me but great service).

    Nicole. Short blonde hair always wears glasses. Attitude 10/10, service 9/10, body 8/10, looks 7/10. Lovely girl.

    Hope that's enough. Keep safe and enjoy when you get there!

  8. #85
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    You sound pretty much like me on what you want. A really good looking girl. It is also very good practice to do what you say. Take the girl up for 30 minutes to see if the chemistry is there (and the body! But whilst that's great practice in a German FKK club, and the girl will often give DFK / BBBJ (was standard until law changed in 2017) and DATY, in the Spanish clubs, they are so used to guys only going for a quick 30 minute wham bam thank you mam, taking 10 minutes, that they won't believe you'll extend. If you are happy with this, tell them you'll do 30 minutes and see how its going. You'll be likely to only get BBBJ and no DFK. If you like the girl, the body is as good as the face (and trust me if you choose any of Julia / Ina / Alicia / Daniella / Monica it will be) then ask if they will agree to BBBJ and DFK if you agree now (and pay) to extend to the hour and I think you'll find they will all agree. There are one or two who will simply not do BBBJ since covid. You need to ask before you go to the room if it is on the agenda if you stay longer than 30 minutes.
    Thanks PFI,

    I will visit once the restrictions are lifted (tho it seems that things are getting worse), you are right about the escorts, the reason some people like it I guess is because they are normally cheaper, and some are afraid to be seen close to brothels for personal reasons. However you can find nice independent ones if you are willing to put in lots of effort, time etc, some are not pro and do it only for a short period of time and that's why they choose to work in apartments, I'm told that some very slim and nice ones are at the Russian apartment in fuengi now.

    But clubs are different, it is much nicer experience because you can chill out there and there is no pressure to choose and then leave.

    I prefer blonde, and I think you said there is Ana in estark who is blond. How was your experience with this one, services? And who do you think is the most beautiful one currently working there?

  9. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Thanks PayForIt,

    The thing is it is going to be my first time going to a big club (like Estark, Scandalo, etc) because I always felt awkward going to big clubs where there are many clients and the good ones are always taken or are not willing to please because they always have clients.

    First time with someone I usually do 30 min to see how the service is up there, and do 60 min the next time, but thanks for the advice, I understand now that it is different at these clubs.

    Body / face are very important for me (like you) so I won't be going up with the less popular ones, I always prefer the nice ones even if they don't do the things that I look for. There is no point in going up with someone who does everything but doesn't look good, you won't enjoy it.

    I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones will attack you as soon as you enter, so I need to be prepared for that, not to fall into this trap. (easier said than done to be honest).

    BTW, the rates are fixed or you have to haggle?

    I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones.
    You sound pretty much like me on what you want. A really good looking girl. It is also very good practice to do what you say. Take the girl up for 30 minutes to see if the chemistry is there (and the body! But whilst that's great practice in a German FKK club, and the girl will often give DFK / BBBJ (was standard until law changed in 2017) and DATY, in the Spanish clubs, they are so used to guys only going for a quick 30 minute wham bam thank you mam, taking 10 minutes, that they won't believe you'll extend. If you are happy with this, tell them you'll do 30 minutes and see how its going. You'll be likely to only get BBBJ and no DFK. If you like the girl, the body is as good as the face (and trust me if you choose any of Julia / Ina / Alicia / Daniella / Monica it will be) then ask if they will agree to BBBJ and DFK if you agree now (and pay) to extend to the hour and I think you'll find they will all agree. There are one or two who will simply not do BBBJ since covid. You need to ask before you go to the room if it is on the agenda if you stay longer than 30 minutes.

    Haggling on price. For 30 minutes no. It is 80 euros take it or leave it. For one hour no -150 and again deal or no deal. No negotiation. I fully appreciate that affordability is relevant for everyone. For me, if I'm having a fantastic night in a club I like, and I love E92, I will select a girl I like (and probably but not always know), and I'll offer 250 for two hours (so getting 50 off the normal price but guaranteed time with the girls). Some agree, some don't. In the past 3 years, I've rarely had anyone say no. And that includes the prettiest girls in the club because, like you, I won't go with anyone I don't find facially and bodily very attractive. If that means walking out I'll do that and have done many times. It is why using escorts who advertise online is not for me. Tried for a final time last year and had x3 disasters. Bait and switch. Girl is nothing like the pics and fat. I wouldn't have allowed some of those three to pay me for sex let alone the opposite. Truth is most online workers are doing it because they wouldn't get selected in a club. Or are at the very high end. So want 400+ per hour and won't work in clubs because they won't get that. In E92 the girl pays 75 euros to stay in the "hotel" but ALL of the money you pay her is hers. So she has her own "hotel room" and she can go there with you for free, for 80/150 or whatever she decides. If I really like two girls I'll offer a joint deal - 250 each for 2 hours and have a total party. I've had a lot of those in E92!

    On approaching. Many of the girls do and many don't. Don't worry about it. E92 is not a "big" club. Compared to Scandalos or the clubs in Madrid it is very small. Especially now that the club area is closed! So only the bar and small casino. Very cosy! And you need not think there will be lots of clients. But even if there were. This is not bad it is good. It means you are not getting hounded by the girls too much, can sit quietly, have a beer, see what is on offer. A good tip in any club is to sit at the bottom of the stairs where you can see the punters coming out who just finished with a girl. If they are both laughing, he gives her a kiss goodbye, chances are that she was good fun, he looks happy and the service was good. If he storms down the stairs or looks unhappy maybe that girl is one to avoid!

    But the notion that some have peddled about service in clubs being very poor is total nonsense. It's really simple economics and supply and demand. If you go into E92 once a week for say 3 weeks, or twice a week for 2 weeks, they will know you are becoming a regular and you'll be given respect if the girls see that you don't nurse one beer all night, maybe even buy a girl a drink, and always go to the room with someone. You'll have no problems at all. The staff are great in there, the girls will be friendly if you are. Not just the unattractive ones, and they will know you are a proper punter who will spend a few bob. So they will want you to be pleased so you repeat with them. Simples. I have had truly fabulous service from girls I know in clubs, and still do.

    So when the restrictions (new today for that area) are lifted. Go on and head down there and I'm sure you'll have a great time. I nearly always do.

  10. #83

    Madrid

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernOcean  [View Original Post]
    I have been a lover of Latin American countries for mongering, but I would like to try Spain. I see no reports for Madrid. I would be traveling in about a year so the covid-19 scare should be over. So where in Spain do I go for the best experience and the costs. Will probably do the airbnb route for lodgings. I dislike using the websites as they are deceptive in Latin America as well. What type of girls dominate the business. Are they as beautiful as the Colombians.
    Hi. Sorry I missed your post. Firstly, as Qaz rightly says, there is indeed a Madrid forum. Presently you will find it very hard to visit Spain at all unless you are a Spanish resident or have an essential reason to travel (there are only three almost universally accepted (1) essential business travel (2) medical appointment or (3) educational reasons. In case you were wondering you can not put on the form "I am in Madrid to be educated by beautiful hookers in Club Vive on the art of sex". Nice try. Won't work!

    Assuming your post is more generally about when things return to normal, whatever that is, or whenever that will be, then Madrid is an excellent mongering destination. Club Vive is renowned throughout Europe. It is a very large warehouse in northern Madrid but accessible by metro or cab. Cheap entry (about 17 euros) but prices in the club are very expensive - 50 euro drinks for the lady if you are happy to pay, and 240/ hour in the room and nobody will gov for 30 minutes.

    They are the negatives. The positive is that it hosts the best selection of girls from all over the world and I mean the latter. You can ask the barman for a Russian, American, Japanese, Brazillian, Swedish, British or you name her. They will have some there! And the standard is off the scale. You will see many 10/10 girls. Worth a visit if only once in your life!

    Other options. Pigmallion - club. Even more expensive.

    Flowers Park. Long way out by cab and not that great in my view.

    Factory Air. Club - not that far out. Very big club, great rooms, some excellent girls, cheaper than Vive.

    Club Hot. In town, good if you like public sex as much of it in booths with curtains which don't stay shut!

    My old favourite. Hotel Diana Park. Estark - cheap to get there by cab, 10 euros entry buys you first drink, small intimate club. Girls are between 100-150 per hour and will do 30 minutes. A strange mix of many girls you wouldn't dream of going with and always one or two real beauties. And I'm picky.

    Madrid is a beautiful city and well worth visiting not just for mongering. Hope you get there and enjoy.

  11. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernOcean  [View Original Post]
    I have been a lover of Latin American countries for mongering, but I would like to try Spain. I see no reports for Madrid. I would be traveling in about a year so the covid-19 scare should be over. So where in Spain do I go for the best experience and the costs. Will probably do the airbnb route for lodgings. I dislike using the websites as they are deceptive in Latin America as well. What type of girls dominate the business. Are they as beautiful as the Colombians.
    Well Spain is great for everything really, specially mongering. There is a page for Madrid if you are just interested in Madrid, well I am not an expert but for the best experience I would suggest Madrid, costa del sol (Malaga) (this page actually), and Barcelona. And the costs can range from low to the super luxury one (1 month salary for an hour), but expect to pay on average 150-200 an hour. The workers are from all over the world, but lots of Latina (if that's what you like) and from other EU countries.

  12. #81

    Great info

    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    Very much depends on several factors. Firstly, if you book a girl for 30 minutes only your prospects of BBBJ and DFK are almost zero. If you choose one of the less popular girls who is in bad need of cash / her fee for the room (though they are being very generous / relaxed with the girls about this during the pandemic) you might get lucky. If you book a girl for an hour, or more, BBBJ will almost certainly be included. But ask in the bar first. As it is your first time and they don't know you it is possible you will be considered easy new meat, and they'll ask for extra. Some girls don't do it at all. Since the start of the pandemic I've noticed some girls use the excuse on DFK that they don't want to exchange body fluids. So they won't do DFK, BBBJ or DATY. Of course if either of you was infected with the virus the high probability is that given the close contact in the room, you'd get it anyway!

    I think what you will find is that you attend once, pick a girl, do an hour, and return second time, even if your girl didn't do BBBJ and / or DFK first time out, once they see you are likely to be a regular they will be more inclined to agree. Believing they won't want to lose a possible regular.

    Normal rule applies. Ask in the bar to make sure what is on offer before agreeing to go to the room.
    Thanks PayForIt,

    The thing is it is going to be my first time going to a big club (like Estark, Scandalo, etc) because I always felt awkward going to big clubs where there are many clients and the good ones are always taken or are not willing to please because they always have clients.

    First time with someone I usually do 30 min to see how the service is up there, and do 60 min the next time, but thanks for the advice, I understand now that it is different at these clubs.

    Body / face are very important for me (like you) so I won't be going up with the less popular ones, I always prefer the nice ones even if they don't do the things that I look for. There is no point in going up with someone who does everything but doesn't look good, you won't enjoy it.

    I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones will attack you as soon as you enter, so I need to be prepared for that, not to fall into this trap. (easier said than done to be honest).

    BTW, the rates are fixed or you have to haggle?

    I am sure that the good ones never approach you but the less popular ones.

  13. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Yes, you are right, I think I would wait a few days till it is over. BTW do the ones you have mentioned give BBBJ and DFK, or is it an extra? Because I have never been there and don't know what to expect and how to approach them.
    Very much depends on several factors. Firstly, if you book a girl for 30 minutes only your prospects of BBBJ and DFK are almost zero. If you choose one of the less popular girls who is in bad need of cash / her fee for the room (though they are being very generous / relaxed with the girls about this during the pandemic) you might get lucky. If you book a girl for an hour, or more, BBBJ will almost certainly be included. But ask in the bar first. As it is your first time and they don't know you it is possible you will be considered easy new meat, and they'll ask for extra. Some girls don't do it at all. Since the start of the pandemic I've noticed some girls use the excuse on DFK that they don't want to exchange body fluids. So they won't do DFK, BBBJ or DATY. Of course if either of you was infected with the virus the high probability is that given the close contact in the room, you'd get it anyway!

    I think what you will find is that you attend once, pick a girl, do an hour, and return second time, even if your girl didn't do BBBJ and / or DFK first time out, once they see you are likely to be a regular they will be more inclined to agree. Believing they won't want to lose a possible regular.

    Normal rule applies. Ask in the bar to make sure what is on offer before agreeing to go to the room.

  14. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by PayForIt  [View Original Post]
    I would wait the few days until its over rather than drive. Could be a very expensive trip if you get fined. But take the walk slowly and in any event every room has a shower.

    Don't know the Russian apartment. I tend to stay away from anything but clubs now (save for privates I know from clubs where I am happy to go to their apartments as I already know what they look like so no bait and switch. If the Russian apartment lets you select from a line up that's fine I suppose.

    When you do get to E92 you'll meet the stunning Julia who messaged me last week to say she has returned to the club after a year away. She says that surprisingly the club is busy and doing well despite the troubles. She is brunette, long hair 10/10 figure and fantastic in the room. She is friends with Ina. The girl who is blonde, tall and looks like Ivana Trump.

    Enjoy when you get there.
    Yes, you are right, I think I would wait a few days till it is over. BTW do the ones you have mentioned give BBBJ and DFK, or is it an extra? Because I have never been there and don't know what to expect and how to approach them.

  15. #78

    Where in Spain

    I have been a lover of Latin American countries for mongering, but I would like to try Spain. I see no reports for Madrid. I would be traveling in about a year so the covid-19 scare should be over. So where in Spain do I go for the best experience and the costs. Will probably do the airbnb route for lodgings. I dislike using the websites as they are deceptive in Latin America as well. What type of girls dominate the business. Are they as beautiful as the Colombians.

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