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Originally Posted by PayForIt
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Thanks for a good field report. Who did you repeat with?
I suspect you got charged the extra 20 for BBBJ and DFK because you only took 30 minutes. You will still find a lot of girls in the club who will still do 150/60 minutes with those services included (provided you know them / they know you). The other thing is that with now over 126 rooms rented in the club by girls (I a told this is the highest ever number since the club opened) competition is high so there should be some great deals to be had even with the good looking girls. There are some, e. G. Christina, who will not budge from her 200/60 price but all of the Ina / Beatrice / Veronica / Alicia group will happily do 150/60 (and the 10 for the sheets).
It makes 30 min sessions uneconomical - 75+20+10 = 105 for 30 minutes. You get an extra 30 for only 45 euros!
I agree some of the girls just wait to prey on drunk tourists. But that happens in clubs worldwide. What is clear is that business is booming in the clubs this year. E92 is clearing over 50,000 euros per week in accommodation fees alone before it sells a single drink / revenues from towels / casino etc. I just hope they don't follow the Scandalos model of allowing the girls to go crazy with pricing. I know the policy is very much that the girl is a hotel tenant / can charge what she wants, but truth is that the club does get involved in mediating disputes between clients and the girls, hence no reason to make clear that silly hiking of prices will mean rooms will not be let out to those found to be doing it. Occupation is close to capacity now other than the suites. So any girl representing trouble / breaking with policy too much will find herself having to look for a new club.
I also really hope that they don't start charging 300 euros an hour, because it seems that it is on that path.
I repeated with Ina, even tho the service was really good but I left thinking that only a few months ago this was 75 euros and actually better service. I think too much work also makes them tired and less willing to please, because they are just thinking about going back down to the bar and get another client.
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Originally Posted by Qazwsx5
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Went on a Tuesday, about 70-80 girls were working (was told that more than 100 are currently at the club) , many guys around in the disco area but was told that there is not enough work for all of them. Spotted about a dozen who were 7 or more, but depends on your taste really, I am really picky tho.
Approached 3 , 4 of them (never had seen them before so I think they were new as they didn't speak english nor spanish well) none of them was willing to give BBBJ, DFK. That was really disappointing because it was the first time I was told no to BBBJ in estark (always got DFK at estark too but I know some may not accept it). So went around the club to find another one, it was obvious that the not so good looking ones were willing to give those services but I was not interested in them. So decided to repeat a session with one of the popular girls at estark (I usually don't repeat as I like to change every time to experience new things) . So was told that the rate is now 100/30 min,+10 for sheets. Payforit had said that here so not surprised, but then another 20 for BBBJ and no DFK. (it was 75/30 min with the same girl including BBBJ and DFK just a few months ago). It is understandable that they have upped the price as it is summer and inflation and etc. But what was not fine for me is that you increase the price and then are going to offer less services for the higher rate.
It is great to have many working in estark, more girls than 2007 or 8 when it was booming, but I think the problem is that most just want drunk tourists in order to earn more and offer less. Because many tourists just get there drunk and don't ask for services and just go up and pay. Lets hope it doesn't stay this way.
Thanks for a good field report. Who did you repeat with?
I suspect you got charged the extra 20 for BBBJ and DFK because you only took 30 minutes. You will still find a lot of girls in the club who will still do 150/60 minutes with those services included (provided you know them / they know you). The other thing is that with now over 126 rooms rented in the club by girls (I a told this is the highest ever number since the club opened) competition is high so there should be some great deals to be had even with the good looking girls. There are some, e. G. Christina, who will not budge from her 200/60 price but all of the Ina / Beatrice / Veronica / Alicia group will happily do 150/60 (and the 10 for the sheets).
It makes 30 min sessions uneconomical - 75+20+10 = 105 for 30 minutes. You get an extra 30 for only 45 euros!
I agree some of the girls just wait to prey on drunk tourists. But that happens in clubs worldwide. What is clear is that business is booming in the clubs this year. E92 is clearing over 50,000 euros per week in accommodation fees alone before it sells a single drink / revenues from towels / casino etc. I just hope they don't follow the Scandalos model of allowing the girls to go crazy with pricing. I know the policy is very much that the girl is a hotel tenant / can charge what she wants, but truth is that the club does get involved in mediating disputes between clients and the girls, hence no reason to make clear that silly hiking of prices will mean rooms will not be let out to those found to be doing it. Occupation is close to capacity now other than the suites. So any girl representing trouble / breaking with policy too much will find herself having to look for a new club.
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Estark
Went on a Tuesday, about 70-80 girls were working (was told that more than 100 are currently at the club) , many guys around in the disco area but was told that there is not enough work for all of them. Spotted about a dozen who were 7 or more, but depends on your taste really, I am really picky tho.
Approached 3 , 4 of them (never had seen them before so I think they were new as they didn't speak english nor spanish well) none of them was willing to give BBBJ, DFK. That was really disappointing because it was the first time I was told no to BBBJ in estark (always got DFK at estark too but I know some may not accept it). So went around the club to find another one, it was obvious that the not so good looking ones were willing to give those services but I was not interested in them. So decided to repeat a session with one of the popular girls at estark (I usually don't repeat as I like to change every time to experience new things) . So was told that the rate is now 100/30 min,+10 for sheets. Payforit had said that here so not surprised, but then another 20 for BBBJ and no DFK. (it was 75/30 min with the same girl including BBBJ and DFK just a few months ago). It is understandable that they have upped the price as it is summer and inflation and etc. But what was not fine for me is that you increase the price and then are going to offer less services for the higher rate.
It is great to have many working in estark, more girls than 2007 or 8 when it was booming, but I think the problem is that most just want drunk tourists in order to earn more and offer less. Because many tourists just get there drunk and don't ask for services and just go up and pay. Lets hope it doesn't stay this way.
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Estark
Has anyone been to estark recently? Who is the most beautiful one there at the moment?
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Scandalos May 2022
My one and only visit this trip. Midweek. Line up was decent but not amazing. 90% of the girls from South America or Dom Republic. Contemplated another round with Anna (blonde Ro) and Mayte (also blonde Ro with gym body) but ended up with longtime fav Lorena. Small blonde Ro- very pretty 9/10. I obviously prefer EE girls! It's the big butts on the latinas that puts me off. To each their own. The club was pretty busy by 12.30 but not as busy as E92 weekends. Probably not a fair comparison.
Room charge is still 30/ hour. And I still refuse to pay it. Drinks. Beer 12 euros, wine a crazy 15 per glass. Girl drinks 50.
Settled on 400 for 2 hours with Lorena provided she paid the room so she made 340 for 2 hours. That is actually less than a lot of girls in E92 are now making as the guy only has to pay 10 for the room. Speaking to several girls it seems that the drift to E92 may continue but it's actually not that different in terms of what the girls make in each club.
That's likely to be my last club visit for a couple of months on the CDS now as I leave on Thursday, and am not likely to be back here until late July, Look forward to hearing updates from others.
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Originally Posted by Qazwsx5
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Who is valentina? Slim? Have you tried her?
Any other news? Thanks.
No not especially slim. Pretty face. Tattoos, Columbian.
No news other than (1) separate report on Scandalos last night to follow (2) E92 last week saw one Swedish guy turn up and order 12 (yes twelve) bottles of champagne at 400 euros a bottle. He then books three girls (Ina, Beatrice and Veronica) for 4 hours. So in total spends nearly 7000 euros. Wait for it. He proceeded to repeat that routine four nights running! Wow. Just shows that there is obviously some heavy money out there. Good luck to him but especially happy for these lovely ladies.
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Originally Posted by PayForIt
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Didn't see any tattoos. Think you mean Valentina. Yes Christina was there in an all blue catsuit. Fairly constantly in the room again.
Who is valentina? Slim? Have you tried her?
Any other news? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Buurmanneken
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Hi,
I'm planning a visit 24-25 may in region Casares / Estepona, would like to visit some clubs, thinking of hotel Fontana (24/5) & Estark (25/5).
I can imagine the experience is the same as / compared to (German) Saunaclubs (Sixsens in Lemiers & Saunaclub Babylon in Elsdorf? First talk about services vs prices & then room?
Anny experiences in Glass place Estepona?
Looking for tips for very oral oriented service (sloppy, deep BBBJ (preferably with Garg. Prof.) & eventual to be combined with "arns."
Would not bother with Estark 95 - it is empty most nights - 6/7 girls and nothing special. Fontana is good after 11.30 currently. Line up has fluctuated in recent years (pandemic excluded) so hit and miss but you'll find someone you like. Prices are 200/ hour. 10 entry for drink. Ladies drinks 30. Yes similar to Germany though you've named 2 FKKs / Saunaclubs that I have not been too (though Sirioja has been to Sixens many times. See his reports in that forum). So I cannot say what LU is like in either but I suspect stronger than in any of the clubs at that end of the CDS you are visiting.
GP in Estepona is some journey for you if in Casares. Prices start 200/ hour but some girls now wanting 250. Lady drinks 30 or 50. Usually no more than 10 girls of which one or two are 7/10. Not seen an 8/10 there for some time.
Have fun and please do report.
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Visit 24-25/5 estepona
Hi,
I'm planning a visit 24-25 may in region Casares / Estepona, would like to visit some clubs, thinking of hotel Fontana (24/5) & Estark (25/5).
I can imagine the experience is the same as / compared to (German) Saunaclubs (Sixsens in Lemiers & Saunaclub Babylon in Elsdorf? First talk about services vs prices & then room?
Anny experiences in Glass place Estepona?
Looking for tips for very oral oriented service (sloppy, deep BBBJ (preferably with Garg. Prof.) & eventual to be combined with "arns."
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Didn't see any tattoos. Think you mean Valentina. Yes Christina was there in an all blue catsuit. Fairly constantly in the room again.
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Originally Posted by PayForIt
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Returned to E92 tonight and it started very well. Alicia (blonde Ro) back and has lost weight and was very sexy. Had a terrific one hour. Beatrice, Ina and Veronica went up with one guy with a bottle of champagne and never returned!
Lots of options but boy did I get it badly wrong. Chose a very pretty Columbian called Stephanie. Long dark hair. Seemed fun. We get to the room and she wants 220 euros for an hour. What? In E92? Never heard of that before. It's my final punt of the night and I hideously decide to go with it as many are now at 200. After a shower she explains she has no condoms and needs to go downstairs. A hooker with no condoms? Seriously? Then after returning and CBJ for about 20 seconds demands a drink. I often buy drinks for girls in the club. And had bought no less than 6 for different girls I know tonight. I don't mind. Even if I'm not going to a room with them. I suppose over the years I have got to know them well enough to believe I can stand them a drink. Even at 30 euros. But I really don't like being taken for an idiot and this Stephanie was at it. After the "you can buy us champagne" I decided to quit. I asked for my money back. She refused. I insisted we speak to the manager. Juan - who I know well. But as she had gotten naked and provided all of 20 seconds CBJ he felt her compromise of retuning my cash and retaining 50 euros to be a fair solution. I didn't and left.
I like the club, the staff and most of the girls. Beware pretty Columbian Stephanie. Scam artist in my opinion. Oh and in the room her ass was fat! (If that sounds bitchy well yes, it is! Disappointing end to another good night. The club was rammed at 1 am. A lot of younger guys are starting to hit E92.
Does she have tattoos?
Was christina also there?
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Oh dear!
Returned to E92 tonight and it started very well. Alicia (blonde Ro) back and has lost weight and was very sexy. Had a terrific one hour. Beatrice, Ina and Veronica went up with one guy with a bottle of champagne and never returned!
Lots of options but boy did I get it badly wrong. Chose a very pretty Columbian called Stephanie. Long dark hair. Seemed fun. We get to the room and she wants 220 euros for an hour. What? In E92? Never heard of that before. It's my final punt of the night and I hideously decide to go with it as many are now at 200. After a shower she explains she has no condoms and needs to go downstairs. A hooker with no condoms? Seriously? Then after returning and CBJ for about 20 seconds demands a drink. I often buy drinks for girls in the club. And had bought no less than 6 for different girls I know tonight. I don't mind. Even if I'm not going to a room with them. I suppose over the years I have got to know them well enough to believe I can stand them a drink. Even at 30 euros. But I really don't like being taken for an idiot and this Stephanie was at it. After the "you can buy us champagne" I decided to quit. I asked for my money back. She refused. I insisted we speak to the manager. Juan - who I know well. But as she had gotten naked and provided all of 20 seconds CBJ he felt her compromise of retuning my cash and retaining 50 euros to be a fair solution. I didn't and left.
I like the club, the staff and most of the girls. Beware pretty Columbian Stephanie. Scam artist in my opinion. Oh and in the room her ass was fat! (If that sounds bitchy well yes, it is! Disappointing end to another good night. The club was rammed at 1 am. A lot of younger guys are starting to hit E92.
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Originally Posted by AndalusExpat
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Why you can't hack the scene outside of clubs I haven't a clue. The other 95% of punters manage all right. Lack of experience?
Haha! While I have almost no experience with hookers on the Costa del Sol, in general I far prefer hooker bars to escorts. It's just a matter of preference. For example, you like anal. I could tell you about 10 reasons why I think sticking one's penis up a hooker's ass is disgusting. But who cares. We all have our likes and dislikes. As Cane put it, better than I, "we would all do well to recognize and accept when others have different tastes and desires than our own."
And don't let recent comments, including mine, discourage you from posting here. I really enjoy what you write.
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Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Anyway, I'm kidding about the basement thing. From the body of work that Andalus Expat has contributed to this forum, it's obvious he does know what he's talking about.
Nobody is really questioning that. It's just that it's possible to be knowledgeable without being condescending to other people at the same time. When you engage in the latter, the "expert" label tends to get lost in the one for "jerk". Also, we would all do well to recognize and accept when others have different tastes and desires than our own, and just might know a hell of a lot about what they're talking about too.
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Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Well today I rented a bicycle at my hotel in Marbella, and was cycling down the Golden Mile when I had the brilliant idea to visit Milady. They open at 4:00 PM, and the place is only about 3 or 4 minutes off the bike path leading into Puerto Banus.
I tooled up to Milady on my bike with a big ass basket on the front, wearing my Panama hat. (The well equipped monger always carries sun protection.) A blonde in the doorway was trying not to laugh her ass off when I walked up to the door to ask if the club was open. If you haven't been to Marbella, there are a lot of Bentleys and Ferraris and Lamborghinis around town, so I guess it was novel to see someone pull up on a gay looking bicycle.
The woman says yes we're open so I stick my Panama Hat in the basket on the bike and proceed to enter. At 5:00 PM I'm the only customer, and there are only two women. A "Hungarian" who looks like a skanky Latina walks up and introduces herself. I tell her I'm interested in Latinas, and head over to see the other woman, a Cubana, Lily. Lily, although a bit older than average is a solid 8 with her clothes on, and 6. 5 desnuda. I buy her a drink, we talk for a while, and then head to the room. The bartender kindly gives me a free drink for the road, compliments of the house. Not sure if that's the standard policy, or perhaps he just liked me because I was a generous tipper, in a country where nobody tips.
The nicest cathouse I've been to was the Pegasus Club, a members only club in Bangkok. And the public areas in Milady didn't really compare. But the roooms, wow! If you're into gaudi Venetian style interior decorating, this place is the cat's meow. I've never been to a better bordello room than room #12 in Milady. It was huge. It has a king sized bed, couch and large jacuzzi. Also a sound system. Lily cranked up some Mana and started the jacuzzi.
Lily then tells me her birthday is May 23, two weeks from now. This is what Wendi at Scandolo in Malaga told me about a week ago. In two weeks it would be her birthday. Both Lily and Wendi were very affectionate. I have determined from these experiences that an important part of offering GFE in Spain is telling the client your birthday is just around the corner. I played along at the end, and gave her 50 EUR to buy something for her birthday. The damage by the way for an hour was 350 EUR. The price for half an hour is 200 EUR. Both Lily and the "Hungarian" quoted the same prices.
Speaking of which, Lily told me the Hungarian was really a Romanian. She said right now the club has a couple of Cubanas, a Colombiana, a Venezolana, and most of the rest are Romanian. According to Lily the Romanians say they're from other places because Romanians are renowned for bad service.
Anyway, back to the Jacuzzi. Lily kindly offered to bang in the Jacuzzi, which was new for me, with a condom at least. We gave it a try but it didn't work on so moved onto the bed. Her performance was excellent.
During the post-coitus cuddling, I decided to take the opportunity to find out whether Andalus Expat really knows his shit. Hell, for all I know he could be some joker sitting in his Mom's basement in Darby or New Jersey or wherever. So I ask her about barfining from a Spanish Club. She said if I call her the day before, she'll take the day off and if somebody from the club sees her out and about with me it's not an issue. The women aren't slaves. She says she and the other women typically get 1000 EUR for having dinner and spending the night. I asked her how about if I take her directly from the club to go out for drinks and a poke. She said then it's 350 euros an hour and the house gets its cut.
Anyway, I'm kidding about the basement thing. From the body of work that Andalus Expat has contributed to this forum, it's obvious he does know what he's talking about.
And so my time with Lily came to an end. She said this was her first time in Marbella, that she only spent a week, and she's headed back to Madrid tomorrow. She's going to Ibiza next where she'll spend the summer. She also said she'd be back in June for a good while. But who knows. Like us, the women tend to prevaricate. I would see her again.
We swapped numbers, and I exited the club about 7:15 PM, heading back to my hotel on my gay looking bike.
Another terrific report. 350/ hour. Wow - it's getting very expensive.
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