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[Hhann]

Unfortunately, this economic theory doesn't work in this trade.

Imagine a guy who hasn't had sex in the last 2 years due to Covid & lockdown. Will he be willing to pay more or pay less for his next encounter?

Now imagine a lady who used to make $3000 every month by selling her skin. She too had no steady income thanks to Covid. So now when she resumes, would she want to earn more or less?

The law of supply and demand takes time to attain equilibrium after unrest.

The problem is that many people in this business don't understand economy, the prices should in fact go down because the demand has fallen, but instead it has gone up. The reason if you ask them is that everythings more expensive (inflation) so they say how can you expect the prices to go down when everything else has gone up (dunno maybe a fair point). But again the problem is that many guys decide to visit these places less and save money for other things so that's why many tutes don't have work, they want more money and guys don't have it so they decide to visit the cheap ones or cut the frequency of doing it.

[Hhann]

Hello PFI,

I forgot to add, my opinions are purely personal opinions, including nature of looks, age & hygiene.

I can also confirm that I have no other commercial motives. What I saw and what I experienced should help my fella chums mongering.

That's the spirit of a public forum.

Chill pill.

Had another successful night in E92 (Wednesday).

Saw the report from hHahn in the main CDS (wrong place for clubs but nice report).

There are a couple of points I would take issue with in his report. Firstly there are many girls well over 30 in Scandalos. Secondly a drink for the lady is minimum 50 euros not 30, thirdly E92 is not filthy at all. I've stayed there many times and personally witnessed the level of cleaning and hygiene every morning after the night before. It is a very deep clean every day. Not fair to malign the club without proper knowledge.

Hahn thinks some of the girls in E92 are gypsies. That is because they are! Many are not. Plenty are. So what? Some of the best girls in Scandalos are from very dodgy backgrounds in Columbia! Doesn't make them any less attractive.

Having sessioned twice with the very lovely and very pretty Veronica, decided to enjoy a different threesome with Maria (blonde Ro with bob hair) and Angie (brunette Ro very slim). Great fun.

Prices have gone to 200/ hour but the girls will still negotiate down to 150/ hour if you book longer than an hour. I took 2 hours with the above ladies for 300 each.

The club was busy by 1 am and pretty active when I was leaving at 2 am.

[PayForIt]

Had another successful night in E92 (Wednesday).

Saw the report from hHahn in the main CDS (wrong place for clubs but nice report).

There are a couple of points I would take issue with in his report. Firstly there are many girls well over 30 in Scandalos. Secondly a drink for the lady is minimum 50 euros not 30, thirdly E92 is not filthy at all. I've stayed there many times and personally witnessed the level of cleaning and hygiene every morning after the night before. It is a very deep clean every day. Not fair to malign the club without proper knowledge.

Hahn thinks some of the girls in E92 are gypsies. That is because they are! Many are not. Plenty are. So what? Some of the best girls in Scandalos are from very dodgy backgrounds in Columbia! Doesn't make them any less attractive.

Having sessioned twice with the very lovely and very pretty Veronica, decided to enjoy a different threesome with Maria (blonde Ro with bob hair) and Angie (brunette Ro very slim). Great fun.

Prices have gone to 200/ hour but the girls will still negotiate down to 150/ hour if you book longer than an hour. I took 2 hours with the above ladies for 300 each.

The club was busy by 1 am and pretty active when I was leaving at 2 am.

[PayForIt]

Is this stephany new? Or is she julias friend?

Sorry missed this. No not Julia's friend. A different Stephanie. Tall and very slim.

The club was still quiet for summer last night but got busy after midnight.

[PayForIt]

Is this stephany new? Or is she julias friend?

I still haven't been able to find veronica and the brunette (forgot her name) your favorite who is a bit bad tempered.

Veronica was there tonight. Blonde, short hair flicked back, beautiful looking girl with fabulous naturals (sees) and terrific service. Another two hours with her tonight. Fabulous.

I did one hour tonight with the other Julia. Brunette, lovely girl, only perhaps 6/10 looks but great naturals and service.

Monika was there tonight. Still feisty but looked stunning and shared some champagne with her. Long white dress. Very pretty and great figure. But the list of what she won't do is longer than what she will do. But if she fits what the punter wants she is exceptional with a fabulous body and good looks.

[Norwind]

Nice area you are in on New Golden Mile which has seen a lot of development including the impressive Ikos hotel. If you are staying there you have plenty of cash!

LOL, not loaded with cash. Staying in a rather average Airbnb near the russian church. Thanks for the tips and advice. I'll make sure to write a report if I end up going to GP.

[Qazwsx5]

Both clubs oddly quiet last week as reported but still with many good options. I don't consider Scandalos to be markedly better at the moment. It does have 5 very slim and pretty girls who look very young. Maybe 18 or 19. One in particular I asked how old she was and she said 18 and I actually doubted it but I know the club wouldn't allow her to work there without proof of age so she must be.

Stephanie. Tall brunette at E92 is looking absolutely stunning, as is Veronica with a fabulously tanned body.

Is this stephany new? Or is she julias friend?

I still haven't been able to find veronica and the brunette (forgot her name) your favorite who is a bit bad tempered.

[PayForIt]

Both clubs quite busy, the quality is really great. Many new faces (but then I don't go that often so maybe for me they are new, payforit who goes more frequently should confirm whether they are new or been there for a few months).

Quality at scandalo is better (most of the girls are quite good) but estark is also great, you will def find at least 10-15 8's or 9's, so no problem, lots of options. There are much more tourists in estark than scandalo, so be careful not to fall into girls tourist category. Saw many tourists go up and then are back down after 10 min,. And in scandalo the bell rings nearly 15 min early so.

Both clubs oddly quiet last week as reported but still with many good options. I don't consider Scandalos to be markedly better at the moment. It does have 5 very slim and pretty girls who look very young. Maybe 18 or 19. One in particular I asked how old she was and she said 18 and I actually doubted it but I know the club wouldn't allow her to work there without proof of age so she must be.

Stephanie. Tall brunette at E92 is looking absolutely stunning, as is Veronica with a fabulously tanned body.

[PayForIt]

Hi there,

Long time lurker but have not been so active on the forum. Not the most experienced when it comes to punting in CDS.

I'm staying near Bombon and Glass Palace and was wondering if anyone here has any recent experience with those places?

I've rtff'the but couldn't find any info.

Also noticed that Glass Palace now has a hotel sign on the building as well. Gives room service a whole new dimension.

Nice area you are in on New Golden Mile which has seen a lot of development including the impressive Ikos hotel. If you are staying there you have plenty of cash!

Bombom is a disaster. I would avoid. Only 5 girls work there. Mostly fat and unattractive. One pretty Romanian Michaela. Blonde and slim but MILF and in the room (May) some body odour issues. Much better options elsewhere. GP is expensive. The Line up varies a lot. Several very pretty black girls there in May. 10 e entry gets you a drink. They don't serve wine. Little action before 11.30 pm. Rooms are only 60 e to hire for the night as a "hotel" and they are exceptionally good quality. Almost worth it to be able to pop in and out of the club as freely as you like. The girls also believe you are a good customer if you have taken a room as well.

Line up is very hit and miss though each night. I've been in there in the past 12 months and been spoilt for choice and then other nights I've struggled with any options.

They now want 200/ hour though they will try for 250 or 220. Most take 200 as it is not that busy. If you head there please report back.

[Qazwsx5]

Both clubs quite busy, the quality is really great. Many new faces (but then I don't go that often so maybe for me they are new, payforit who goes more frequently should confirm whether they are new or been there for a few months).

Quality at scandalo is better (most of the girls are quite good) but estark is also great, you will def find at least 10-15 8's or 9's, so no problem, lots of options. There are much more tourists in estark than scandalo, so be careful not to fall into girls tourist category. Saw many tourists go up and then are back down after 10 min,. And in scandalo the bell rings nearly 15 min early so.

[Qazwsx5]

The problem is that many people in this business don't understand economy, the prices should in fact go down because the demand has fallen, but instead it has gone up. The reason if you ask them is that everythings more expensive (inflation) so they say how can you expect the prices to go down when everything else has gone up (dunno maybe a fair point). But again the problem is that many guys decide to visit these places less and save money for other things so that's why many tutes don't have work, they want more money and guys don't have it so they decide to visit the cheap ones or cut the frequency of doing it.

[The Cane]

I can't see any reason at all for higher prices. That defies economics. There's a vast surplus of girls trying to work over the numbers of punters wanting them now. This has been true all through history because there's an unlimited supply of women wanting to rent out the assets. The legislation is intended to & will hit the demand side. So market pressures will be towards lower prices.

There was no real "reason" to raise prices in the FKK clubs after the condom law went into effect if you ask me. It's just that greedy, opportunistic tutes saw it as a way to get more. "I'm doing something I'm not supposed to. So, I want 50 euros more". I predict the same thing can and will happen in Spain if this proposed new legislation is passed. Why? Because just as in Germany, I don't expect that demand will go down as you assume. I expect that it will remain the same with plenty of mongers willing to take some reasonable risks to still keep drilling tute P4P. And with demand remaining as strong as ever, the tutes working in Spain will have the same bargaining power as the FKK tutes to extract more monger money. "You want that? OK, I'll do it. But, you'll have to pay me more money since it's illegal"! And they will get it too. Because demand for tute pussy will remain very, very strong. That's my take on potential future price hikes based on this proposed new legislation in Spain. Of course, there are other factors that could introduce themselves and impact everything too. I mean, what if the world spins into a deep recession? Right now, mongers with cash are still spending despite global inflationary pressures. But what if we have a deep and long recession putting the brakes on not just the sex industry, but pretty much every other industry too? Well, of course tute pricing would be impacted by such conditions as well. In the end, only time will tell. I hope the abominable legislation doesn't pass is what!

[Andalus Expat]

Ha! That doesn't mean anything! It's all about saying and doing the "moral" thing. It's just like the condom law in Germany. Totally impractical to enforce. And BBBJ / CIM service kept going on, although at a higher price. So, maybe Germany can hold some instructive hope out for the industry in Spain. If these legal changes do happen in Spain, then maybe just maybe the clubs can find a way for it to be business as usual, albeit at a higher price maybe, just like in Germany. That's nothing that would draw me back to Spain, but still I don't want to see the whole scene there have to go mostly underground. That's neither good for the sex workers nor their customers. Spain still holds a special place in my heart!

I can't see any reason at all for higher prices. That defies economics. There's a vast surplus of girls trying to work over the numbers of punters wanting them now. This has been true all through history because there's an unlimited supply of women wanting to rent out the assets. The legislation is intended to & will hit the demand side. So market pressures will be towards lower prices.

Roughly what we've been seeing since Covid hit. Outside of the clubs prices are down around 25%. Although that's not necessarly what you'll see in the adverts but what it's possible to negotiate. Example's a girl I see regularly. Before Covid she wanted 150/ hour incalls. I've moved her over to visiting me but she's still content content with 150/ hour. Before, that would have been plus 50 for the outcall plus another 30 for taxis. I'm also being offered the full menu at that price, whereas that would generally be at least another 50. That lot adds up to around 45% reduction. She must regard me as a good reliable frequent client worth keeping. However her agency listing is more like the big figures.

I don't know exactly what's going on inside the clubs you go to because I don't know any Spanish who use them to ask. Generally, foreign tourists get clipped for at least 20% if the girls think they can get away with it. Which mostly they do. With the clubs you're self limiting because of your reluctance to operate outside of them The girls know this so they hold the whip hand. Spanish locals don't have this so can go elsewhere & do. My guess is if the clubs try hiking prices they'll just dig a bigger hole for themselves. There isn't the demand.

PayForIt says the girls are talking about leaving Spain for other countries. Where? The situation economically across Europe is almost as bad as here. If Germany loses its gas supplies half its industries will be shutting down. Girls returning from tours up there are saying they've earned much less than previous years. Sounds more like puta hopefulness than reality.

[The Cane]

About the new law, don't think its going to happen, at least in the format that is now being discussed, why? Because it is just not practical, you can't force people not to do a job they want to do, France tried a few years ago, did it change anything? Not really. The only way to solve this is to leave things as it is or regulate it.

Ha! That doesn't mean anything! It's all about saying and doing the "moral" thing. It's just like the condom law in Germany. Totally impractical to enforce. And BBBJ / CIM service kept going on, although at a higher price. So, maybe Germany can hold some instructive hope out for the industry in Spain. If these legal changes do happen in Spain, then maybe just maybe the clubs can find a way for it to be business as usual, albeit at a higher price maybe, just like in Germany. That's nothing that would draw me back to Spain, but still I don't want to see the whole scene there have to go mostly underground. That's neither good for the sex workers nor their customers. Spain still holds a special place in my heart!

[Qazwsx5]

Back in E92 last night. Very quiet. Ina not back from Ro and might not be back for one month yet.

All the usual suspect other girls are there. Veronica (looks better than ever with lovely tanned body and her natural large boobs are fabulous), Alicia (very slim blonde Ro with large naturals), both Monika, Beatrice, Julia, Stephanie, Maria (blonde with bob) and several of the Latina girls. Less than normal though.

Far less punters than a month ago despite it being summer.

Talked to a lot of the girls about the proposed legislation. The club has a clear plan to avoid breaking the law which is quite clever. I will not set it out in writing in case of it being viewed by the wrong eyes, but it would very much mean business pretty much as usual albeit without girls parading in the bar / club / casino. But very interestingly, the sense was very much different to when this first broke. At that time I was hearing "it won't happen". Now, the feeling is that it really might do so. What is interesting is that none of the girls I spoke to would go independent in Spain. They all said they would leave for Germany, Austria, Belgium, Portugal or Switzerland. Hence, it might be that Spain gets its wish and drives prostitution underground with a resulting huge hike in prices and dubious practices for the few who remain. As Mongerer88 correctly says. History shows (eg CBJ law in Germany in 2017) that making something illegal drives the price up. This opens opportunities for pimps, traffickers and others to exploit working girls. The general view was that given that there are bordering countries where sale of sex is legal the best thing to do will be just to move. Spain would fall of the map for any sex tourist. Many would say that will be a good thing. For the sex tourist it really doesn't matter where we need to travel to enjoy the sport. But obviously there would be no point coming to Spain for illegal sex if a trip along the coast to Vilamoura, or to Germany or Switzerland offer fully legalised punting with no risks.

Enforcement would very much be questionable. The following link lists every country in the World's position on prostitution in 2022. https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...ution-is-legal What is hilarious is that prostitution in Thailand is actually illegal! Fascinating to see entrepreneurial thinking. Offering a dancing lesson for payment cannot be outlawed. Even if the dance leads to sex!

I suppose the oldest profession has faced all these challenges many times in many locations and it will always find a way to survive anywhere.

Not quite sure why E92 was so quiet in the height of summer. Will explore Scandalos in the coming month also and report on it.

What did were you there? How was the quality?

Dunno why it was quiet because it is quite busy at nights, that's why all the rooms are taken.

It is true that the economy situation is not good and that's affecting everything, and it seems that its going to get worse if the current situation continues and we don't see a change of policy.

About the new law, don't think its going to happen, at least in the format that is now being discussed, why? Because it is just not practical, you can't force people not to do a job they want to do, France tried a few years ago, did it change anything? Not really. The only way to solve this is to leave things as it is or regulate it.