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  1. #842
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Yes true.

    I was there over the weekend and the quality was a bit than August (August was really bad as expected because many girls go on holidays and etc, however if you like big fat asses then quality may be great for you), there are very few choices (EE and slim type) there were about 30 punters and 50 girls, the rooms are all sold out but the problem is that it seems most of new clients prefer SA and big asses, talked to a few girls and they were not very happy with the business but it is not like there is no money at all, there are customers but they want more.

    Spoker to a romanian who had come to estark from scandalo (she said scandalo is busy but a bit difficult to work there as they have no control over the time, room etc, so she liked it better at estark) the service was great, can't remember her name but a tall blonde girl.
    I'm also only interested in the slim / fit type, and not too old (less than 30 usually, because I rarely see anyone I think is attractive above 30). I dropped by estark again last night on my way home from the cinema, but left after looking around for 10 minutes. Around 20-25 women, and 5-10 punters I guess. Some business is obviously being done though, as two punters went up with women during that time (one woman returned after a minute or two though, so guess there was some disagreement on the way up. ;-)).

    Not sure if things will improve considerably now that summer is over, or if this is how estark is most of the time, with the same old faces every time?

  2. #841

    Not a lot at west of marbella.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Can please anyone say how things are in fontana, glass palace and clubs in estepona, sotogrande etc area?? Payforit?
    Glass palace is closed and became now a cheap hotel.

    I don't know at all what's nice in estepona, except the BelAir club, but none of the members were able to tell me if it is a nice place or not.

    I usually go to the Thai Biarritz massage, where, if the boss is not there, you could get an extra HJ.

    So if some members read this post, what about the Belair Club or any idea about the other thai massage in estepona and san pedro?

    That would be nice to receive some tips.

    Thanks in advance.

  3. #840

    West of marbella clubs

    Can please anyone say how things are in fontana, glass palace and clubs in estepona, sotogrande etc area?? Payforit?

  4. #839
    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    Having recently come back home to Malaga I dropped by estark92 twice this week. Once in the middle of the week, once on the weekend.

    In the middle of the week I went with one colombian, and didn't see anyone else I might have liked. Guessing there was about 30 women there at that time (before midnight) and around 10 punters.

    This weekend, around 03 am, I'm guessing there were about 30-40 women, and 20-30 punters. Saw only one I liked (from Costa Rica), one of very few below 30, but when asking about service, she said only covered BJ, so I declined. Almost everyone else in the club was ranging from directly unattractive too "I'd fuck her for free since I'm already here, but pay, no."

    Not a frequent visitor to estark92, and never saw anyone there I'd rate as beautiful, but slim pickings indeed now.
    Yes true.

    I was there over the weekend and the quality was a bit than August (August was really bad as expected because many girls go on holidays and etc, however if you like big fat asses then quality may be great for you), there are very few choices (EE and slim type) there were about 30 punters and 50 girls, the rooms are all sold out but the problem is that it seems most of new clients prefer SA and big asses, talked to a few girls and they were not very happy with the business but it is not like there is no money at all, there are customers but they want more.

    Spoker to a romanian who had come to estark from scandalo (she said scandalo is busy but a bit difficult to work there as they have no control over the time, room etc, so she liked it better at estark) the service was great, can't remember her name but a tall blonde girl.

  5. #838

    Estark 92: slim pickings

    Having recently come back home to Malaga I dropped by estark92 twice this week. Once in the middle of the week, once on the weekend.

    In the middle of the week I went with one colombian, and didn't see anyone else I might have liked. Guessing there was about 30 women there at that time (before midnight) and around 10 punters.

    This weekend, around 03 am, I'm guessing there were about 30-40 women, and 20-30 punters. Saw only one I liked (from Costa Rica), one of very few below 30, but when asking about service, she said only covered BJ, so I declined. Almost everyone else in the club was ranging from directly unattractive too "I'd fuck her for free since I'm already here, but pay, no."

    Not a frequent visitor to estark92, and never saw anyone there I'd rate as beautiful, but slim pickings indeed now.

  6. #837
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    It is, as I said, a service. If you want it, ask and make it plain if needed, you'll pay for it. I think a lot of guys over buy into the illusion these clubs are regular discos just happen to have a lot of unattached totty standing around in them. Hence the extensive chin-wagging that goes in their direction. You don't need to chat them up. If you want companionship, keep buying them drinks from the bar & they'll provide the service. (They earn on the drinks) Otherwise you just piss them off for wasting their time. They're working professionals. They'll be anything you want, do anything you want (within their personal limits) providing you pay for the services. If the one you're talking to isn't up for what you require, try a different one. Don't worry about hurting her feelings. She hasn't got any. If you understand it this way, you'll avoid a lot of disappointments & wasted money.

    Maybe it's the word "club" that gets people off on the wrong foot. They are not clubs in either meaning of the word. No membership is required & few provide any sort of entertainment*. They are bar / hotels host prossies.

    * Some of the better ones provide dancefloors & DJ music for dancing, pole dancers, strippers, live shows or live music performances. But that's definitely not Estark.
    It is a service but there's no reason for me to go there if that isn't often available. I am not sure what you mean by the "illusion of a regular disco" or "unattached totty" but it sounds like this place probably doesn't have what I want and I should look elsewhere.

  7. #836
    Quote Originally Posted by Nomeymom  [View Original Post]
    I was in Spain again recently and was like f**k it I'm going to go see what's happening in e92.

    That place used to be one of my favourite places on earth, last couple times I've been I have left feeling a bit dirty inside, I don't know if its just me growing older and internally telling myself I shouldn't be doing this or its just the energy of the club, but tbh its probably the quality of the girl who then again gives good service and is one of the best but she's still only a 6/10 LOL.

    It used to be so good, the quality of girls, the venue, now they've split the casino from the club, I can't go chill there without leaving the club and even in the casino there is like 2-3 girls and they're all horrific. The day Ina left is the day Estark died imo, even Alicia is nowhere to be found.

    The security especially the guy on the casino have such a bad energy, before they would say hey now I feel everyones hostile, I know they had a shooting etc but still the set up is weird now.

    Went upstairs with one I've previously done, tbh I hung around for like 2 hours scoping girls and I thought they were all shit, one had a pretty face body wasn't all that though. I think all the high quality girls have gone Dubai or something LOL.

    Going to try and hit Scandalo during this next couple weeks, but Estark 92, RIP. Its just turned into a dirty working girl house in my opinon (it was a working girl house anyway) but nah. Such a shame.
    Scandalo in August is much better quality. E92 is not good during the August since many girls go on holidays or back to their countries or head to marbella to earn more money and only the ones in desperate need of money, and many SA with big stuff work there as many domestic tourists prefer them. In September things usually get better at estark.

    Check out mildays palace too, the quality is good and the bar area is great, even tho I feel like you can pick up better quality girls at the posh restaurants and discos in marbella.

  8. #835

    E92 Fallen off massively

    I was in Spain again recently and was like f**k it I'm going to go see what's happening in e92.

    That place used to be one of my favourite places on earth, last couple times I've been I have left feeling a bit dirty inside, I don't know if its just me growing older and internally telling myself I shouldn't be doing this or its just the energy of the club, but tbh its probably the quality of the girl who then again gives good service and is one of the best but she's still only a 6/10 LOL.

    It used to be so good, the quality of girls, the venue, now they've split the casino from the club, I can't go chill there without leaving the club and even in the casino there is like 2-3 girls and they're all horrific. The day Ina left is the day Estark died imo, even Alicia is nowhere to be found.

    The security especially the guy on the casino have such a bad energy, before they would say hey now I feel everyones hostile, I know they had a shooting etc but still the set up is weird now.

    Went upstairs with one I've previously done, tbh I hung around for like 2 hours scoping girls and I thought they were all shit, one had a pretty face body wasn't all that though. I think all the high quality girls have gone Dubai or something LOL.

    Going to try and hit Scandalo during this next couple weeks, but Estark 92, RIP. Its just turned into a dirty working girl house in my opinon (it was a working girl house anyway) but nah. Such a shame.

  9. #834
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    Well it is part of their job. With a previous client they're halfway to a repeat performance. And it's an excuse to keep the other girls off. But how genuine it is? I've had girls claim I've had the pleasure with them before, when I'm a 100% certain I haven't. Not the sort of xica I'd be remotely interested in. Very few girls work the clubs are. And it's a known ploy. Many guys don't remember much of what's above the neckline. Thanks to the slap, girls tend to have generic faces. It's what they're aiming for. Not hard to convince him. Just play his own conversation back at him.

    Try an experiment. Go up to a girl you know you haven't, but tell her that you have. I'm willing to bet evens she'll go along with it.
    Yes, I know. But actually some of them have had sessions with me six months ago and they still know me and remember my name and how the session went.

    Anyone has any update on glass palace and clubs west of marbella? The one close to admiral casino?

  10. #833
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    I actually want them to forget my face but in fact it may surprise you that some of them recognize you even tho they have seen you only once 6 months ago, I am shocked at this..
    Well it is part of their job. With a previous client they're halfway to a repeat performance. And it's an excuse to keep the other girls off. But how genuine it is? I've had girls claim I've had the pleasure with them before, when I'm a 100% certain I haven't. Not the sort of xica I'd be remotely interested in. Very few girls work the clubs are. And it's a known ploy. Many guys don't remember much of what's above the neckline. Thanks to the slap, girls tend to have generic faces. It's what they're aiming for. Not hard to convince him. Just play his own conversation back at him.

    Try an experiment. Go up to a girl you know you haven't, but tell her that you have. I'm willing to bet evens she'll go along with it.

  11. #832
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    As I've said before, it's a puta, not a girlfriend. There's only one person it the room having sex. The other's working. No doubt she doesn't appreciate the hygiene aspect. All sorts of things can be passed on by people's dentition along with the remains of chicken tikka & rice. But while you're occupied downstairs, she gets a break to compile the shopping list for Mercadona.

    Sorry to disillusion you but it's reality. Particularly with club girls. You're another forgettable face at the end of a long line of forgettable faces.

    As for visiting them, I probably don't in the way you do. I'm paying to receive professional sexual services not to provide them. I find girls trying to do a GFE on me extremely unerotic first time out, Enough to make me lose interest altogether, since it's so obviously an act. Not to say it doesn't happen. But that would be a few visits down the line when there's some sort of friendship may have built up. Even then, I'm often not exactly sure about that. They are working girls. It is a job.

    I'd want to see their bank balances before I passed an opinion. From what I hear from the girls I know, there's still a dearth of paying clients. There's been one round here all afternoon occupying one of the sunbeds. Not a tickle on her phone until 8:00 & she's gone home on the promise of what she expects to be half an hour. Pre-Covid she was making 2-3000 a week in August. Overnights at a grand a pop. Maybe the clubs are benefiting from the problems the advertising laws have caused? But it's always what they're pulling in over the week / month / season. Their daily living expenses eat money.
    I actually want them to forget my face but in fact it may surprise you that some of them recognize you even tho they have seen you only once 6 months ago, I am shocked at this.

    I def understand what you say about getting services and etc. But BBBJ is a service I think you want, and that is not without risks, so when I said visiting them, I wanted to say that you know visiting them has its own risks.

  12. #831
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    I have looked at from the Girl's point of view. She may or may not want to do those kinds of things. I can't speak for others at the club but I kept myself groomed, well dressed and clean. Sex is without kissing to me is awful. Kissing is is just kissing unless you yourself put meaning behind it.

    If DFK isn't common at places like Estark, that is okay and I will simply go elsewhere.
    It is common at estark but of course depends on the girl and also whether she likes you or not. But as AE says, always tell them straight in the face without wasting their time and if she rejects, just go to someone else. In estark from experience, I can tell you that EE are most likely to do it and are more honest than SA.

  13. #830
    Quote Originally Posted by GuyBrusg1957  [View Original Post]
    I have looked at from the Girl's point of view. She may or may not want to do those kinds of things. I can't speak for others at the club but I kept myself groomed, well dressed and clean. Sex is without kissing to me is awful. Kissing is is just kissing unless you yourself put meaning behind it.

    If DFK isn't common at places like Estark, that is okay and I will simply go elsewhere.
    It is, as I said, a service. If you want it, ask and make it plain if needed, you'll pay for it. I think a lot of guys over buy into the illusion these clubs are regular discos just happen to have a lot of unattached totty standing around in them. Hence the extensive chin-wagging that goes in their direction. You don't need to chat them up. If you want companionship, keep buying them drinks from the bar & they'll provide the service. (They earn on the drinks) Otherwise you just piss them off for wasting their time. They're working professionals. They'll be anything you want, do anything you want (within their personal limits) providing you pay for the services. If the one you're talking to isn't up for what you require, try a different one. Don't worry about hurting her feelings. She hasn't got any. If you understand it this way, you'll avoid a lot of disappointments & wasted money.

    Maybe it's the word "club" that gets people off on the wrong foot. They are not clubs in either meaning of the word. No membership is required & few provide any sort of entertainment*. They are bar / hotels host prossies.

    * Some of the better ones provide dancefloors & DJ music for dancing, pole dancers, strippers, live shows or live music performances. But that's definitely not Estark.

  14. #829
    Quote Originally Posted by AndalusExpat  [View Original Post]
    Often seen this question asked. Maybe you should try looking at it from the girl's point of view.
    I have looked at from the Girl's point of view. She may or may not want to do those kinds of things. I can't speak for others at the club but I kept myself groomed, well dressed and clean. Sex is without kissing to me is awful. Kissing is is just kissing unless you yourself put meaning behind it.

    If DFK isn't common at places like Estark, that is okay and I will simply go elsewhere.

  15. #828
    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    I agree, very true.

    However the thing with BBBJ and DFK is that if you really want to look at it from hygienic point of view, the same can be said about DATY, licking and etc, so you should never visit them.
    As I've said before, it's a puta, not a girlfriend. There's only one person it the room having sex. The other's working. No doubt she doesn't appreciate the hygiene aspect. All sorts of things can be passed on by people's dentition along with the remains of chicken tikka & rice. But while you're occupied downstairs, she gets a break to compile the shopping list for Mercadona.

    Sorry to disillusion you but it's reality. Particularly with club girls. You're another forgettable face at the end of a long line of forgettable faces.

    As for visiting them, I probably don't in the way you do. I'm paying to receive professional sexual services not to provide them. I find girls trying to do a GFE on me extremely unerotic first time out, Enough to make me lose interest altogether, since it's so obviously an act. Not to say it doesn't happen. But that would be a few visits down the line when there's some sort of friendship may have built up. Even then, I'm often not exactly sure about that. They are working girls. It is a job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Qazwsx5  [View Original Post]
    Spotted a few good EEs but wanted extra 50 E for BBBJ, so even tho many are desperate there are some who earn quite good money.
    I'd want to see their bank balances before I passed an opinion. From what I hear from the girls I know, there's still a dearth of paying clients. There's been one round here all afternoon occupying one of the sunbeds. Not a tickle on her phone until 8:00 & she's gone home on the promise of what she expects to be half an hour. Pre-Covid she was making 2-3000 a week in August. Overnights at a grand a pop. Maybe the clubs are benefiting from the problems the advertising laws have caused? But it's always what they're pulling in over the week / month / season. Their daily living expenses eat money.

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