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[Andalus Expat]

I have been to Casa Masa 4 times and not had a good experience (other than in the room). It was off-putting. If there is a villa on the coast, where punters are welcome to turn up mid-afternoon, enjoy lazing around the pool with some pretty girls, a beer or two (but not 6), maybe some food, a glass of wine, and a couple of great hours with one or two of the girls, please let me know which one that is and I will try it for sure. Jesus, AE. You might even be there and we could "take in a game". Who would have believed it?!

I spent a summer doing exactly that at a villa on Torreblanca.

But there's a backstory to it. Starts with my cousin staying with me & wanting a girl. So I gave him Pasion & told him to pick one & I'd organise. What turned up was a tattooed 6 ft Brasiliena on 8 inch platforms. He went white & shaky. I could have given her her cab fare & fucked her off but opted for sending because to bed, paying her 150 & opening a bottle. We were still sitting on the sofa, 3 hours later, when she told me she had to go back to the villa she was running. So we got a cab & walked into her salon to find an officer of the Guardia doing lines of coca with his arm round a puta. I think I got my 150 worth in her bed around 7 AM. So I was "family" with privileges from the off.

And why the following year I rented a villa & tried running one. There's guys posted on this board visited it. Just what you'd like. Pool with a bar & sauna by it. Massive garden, totally invisible to anyone not in it. Main house had 9 rooms, but there was also a separate building as a dormitory for the girls & a separate one bedroom cottage for me. Ran for a couple of years in fits & starts. We had some very successful times. One night I had 16 guys around the pool & only 5 girls. I was ringing round putas to make up the numbers. But it's incredibly hard work. First thing's the Catch 22. You can't get & keep girls without clients & you can't get clients without girls. Solution, if you can afford it, is pay girls to do nothing but hang around looking pretty & painting their nails. Then having got some clients, you have to get rid of those girls & get some others. Who don't expect to be paid for sitting around painting their nails. Because the originals will have become habituated & a pain in the arse to get to do anything. Then there's the clients. The guys coming down from northern Europe are OK. As far as I was concerned they could drink for free. With a drink costing me under a euro why would I ration it by price? I want them pissed. I want all their money, not just some. We recover the money in the drinks they buy the girls for their company. Do this with the Spanish & you'd have them for the entire day & night, drinking you dry without spending a cent. And that is why you'll have so much trouble finding what you want. The Spanish are natural freeloaders without a hint of shame. Except for the few that aren't.

What did I learn? The girls. I like putas. They are my sort of people. I've known them since I was a kid. I left home in my teens & lived in a bedsit in Earls Court. Sitting around a West End coffee bar trying to make a cappuccino last two hours you meet 3 sorts of people. People like yourself. People you really don't need to meet. Prossies doing the same thing as you are. After the 10 seconds it takes for them to sus you're not a prospective client, they can be good friends. They know everything worth knowing about surviving in a city. So wherever I go, I look for putas to find out how wherever it is it works. But 90% of them are evil, heartless, lazy, thieving slags. Most of the hard work of a villa is managing the girls & stopping them ripping strips off each other. Or dealing with the problems they've caused.

Is there any money in it? Very little. Maybe one could make a living. Never a fortune. The vast supply side surplus makes it impossible unless you're selling something different from the competition. Most people go bust shortly after commencing. For my part, the rent on the villa I would have been paying anyway. I like luxury houses. I'd be paying for parties & girls whatever happened. I just got them cheaper. I reckon I could make more money in virtually any other business I tackled. I regarded it as entertainment. (We did run a massage studio in part of the house made a packet. But masajistas are easier to deal with than putas. They do what they're told. So I got to set the price points* & we nicked half the clients in the town.).

So if you want a home-from-home PayForIt, find yourself a villa & invest some time & money in it. Maybe Casa Masa. Become a regular. Build some cred. Then if you want to watch the game with your mates, set it up with your mates** & the encargada will do the rest. Same for anything else. That's what they're there for. But they're not going to provide anything there's no demand for. And in my experience, they have no imagination.

*This needs explaining. If you're running girls, they will expect to be receiving a percentage of the client fee. 50% is common. So if the client pays 120/ h the girl will expect 60. Now say you're opening a new house & you want to attract clients. You want to set the client price at 90, to undercut the competition, but still pay the girls 60. (You can turn a profit for the house at 30, if you get sufficient clients. Your fixed costs don't change with volume) The girls won't be happy because they're fucking clients for 90. They see it as giving the client 30. In which case why can't you charge the client 120 & give them 90? It would be all the same to you. The concept of making more from a smaller slice of a much larger pie is totally beyond them. That's why they are doing the work they are.

**Leave me out. I find soccer as interesting as watching paint dry.

[Andalus Expat]

True, but there are also some who work in villas or as an independent and don't offer BBBJ and DFK, even tho it is quite rare, but some eye candy ones don't feel the need to do it even tho they work as independents, as you said before, they want to get cash as fast as possible and work as little as possible, so if they have clients and they are not demanding, then they can reject many services.

But I pretty much feel that BBBJ is quite normal in clubs here (DFK maybe a little bit different) ,for example in estark BBBJ has always been on the menu, never had any problem with it (but I always ask for it down in the bar), only once a few years ago in villa magna one said she wouldn't do it nor DFK, never again heard this. DFK is different because some of them say there must be some sort of chemistry, if there is nothing they don't really feel like doing it, but again in estark so far all of them have provided this service, except for one who said just kissing but not DFK.

DFK will always be a difficult one. Look at it from the girl's point of view. She's sharing what the client had for dinner. Personally, I can never understand why guys want the service. She's a puta not a girlfriend. That's not to say I don't snog putas. But that'll be girls I've known for a while & because they want to. As you say, chemistry. Not available on half hour appointments.

[Tiny 12]

Much appreciated PayForIt! I was planning on going tomorrow. Maybe I'll wait until Friday based on your thoughts. I will report back. Apologies for posting in the wrong thread, and thanks for going to the trouble to move my post to this one and provide a detailed reply.

[PayForIt]

Tiny. Your post in full below and my responses underneath.

I'm looking at going to Fontana and Cleofas this week. A few questions.

1. About what time do you start to see a decent number of women in the two clubs? Would there be any sense going in the day if you were just passing by? I see that Cleofas appears to open at 5:00 PM, and La Fontana's facebook page says it's open 24 hours.

2. Are there any days that are better than others?

3. I can't find Fontana on Google Maps but see from the forum that it's close to Guardacorte Park Hotel. If I can get to the hotel, will I be able to see Fontana? For example, is Fontana across the street?

4. Somebody mentioned a casino with great food close to Fontana, but for the life of me I can't find the post.

1. By "decent number of women" that suggests quite a few. Cleofas never has more than 4 or 5. I was there on Monday and there were 4 and none of them up to standard so I left. Fontana has more but only if you are willing to wait until after 11.30 pm. You can expect 20+ after that time.

2. As usual. Fridays and Saturdays more busy than others and Sundays and Mondays tend to be very quiet (as I found).

3. Fontana is on the same side of the road as the Guadacorte Park hotel. If you are driving from Malaga direction towards Cadiz you will see the big illuminated building on the left as you are approaching the Salina / turn off for the hotel (which from memory I think is 115 B). You can check in the hotel if you are staying there (its cheap and cheerful but ok) and walk to the club (5 minutes) or if you drive to it, you'll pass the hotel on the right, then keep going to the next turn off, take it and go all the way down. It looks like a dead end and there are taxis parked there. But the club has its own car park and you can park there underneath for free. You then pay the guy down there 10 e entry. He gives you a ticket and you exchange that for your first drink and there is direct access from the underground car park into the club. It was horribly quiet on Monday night at 11.15 pm. Only 6 girls, none to my taste so again, I left.

4. Admiral casino is off salida 124. It's 10-15 minutes max drive from Fontana. I wouldn't describe the food as great. It has a decent restaurant and the food is reasonably good. Not as good as it once was. I like the casino. It's really friendly (though you'll need ID for entry) and there are large screen TVs for sports etc as well as the gambling. Admiral Lodge is also a hotel based on that casino site.

Hope that helps and do report if you get to either club.

Thanks.

[Qazwsx5]

As I've said to you before, you're talking about maybe 5% of the working girls in Spain. Or less. There's the small town clubs throughout the country. Never noticed much reluctance over BBBJs in them. But a different circuit of girls & different clients.

If you look at things from the girls' point of view, it's not hard to understand. Big club clients are hardly flavour of the month. No girl enjoys being pawed by full-of-themselves drunks. Even more so in the resort towns. Foreign tourists sweaty after a day in the sun & beer. A rudimentary shower, a belly full of curry & more beer & it's "Whay-hay lads. Let's go to a club!" Sure they're easy pickings but they're mostly half hour pump & dumps. Most girls either won't work the big clubs or have & are happy to get out. The girls who stick it are money-in-a-hurry for doing the least. Incentives. The majority of big club punters are one-offs or irregular visitors.

In a previous post you were dismissive of the talent in Casa Masa. You got it exactly the wrong way round. I know one of the previous hostesses. The last thing she'd need would be highly competitive club girl eyecandy. A couple of them would turn it into a battleground. They'd lose their girls & their clients. A good villa functions like a happy family. The manager manages the girls (and the clients) so they all get a slice of the pie. Sure you can go to a villa & they'll give you a parada & you can bang the talent. But then you might as well go to an apartment for the same. For its regular clients a good villa will be a home from home. They're not just about sex. Hospitality. Watching the big game with your mates with drinks & girls available to help celebrate victories or console defeats. Gambling. Not coin in the slot la Estark's "casino" but chips on the table card schools. (I know a French guy in Marbella will run it.) You must have heard of "white parties". What better place to have a stag night? Small town clubs can have a similarity to villas because their clientele base is limited.

What goes on in FKK's I haven't a clue (You do know that freikorperkultur is just the camouflage they operate under? Don't think just because you see a FKK sign you can fuck the grannies) But again, they won't be representative of what's available in the country. Germany's got its own villas. As have France, Belgium & Holland. And its own apartments & independents. Prostitution's like icebergs. The easily visible bits are just the bits above the waves where the penguins hang out.

True, but there are also some who work in villas or as an independent and don't offer BBBJ and DFK, even tho it is quite rare, but some eye candy ones don't feel the need to do it even tho they work as independents, as you said before, they want to get cash as fast as possible and work as little as possible, so if they have clients and they are not demanding, then they can reject many services.

But I pretty much feel that BBBJ is quite normal in clubs here (DFK maybe a little bit different) ,for example in estark BBBJ has always been on the menu, never had any problem with it (but I always ask for it down in the bar), only once a few years ago in villa magna one said she wouldn't do it nor DFK, never again heard this. DFK is different because some of them say there must be some sort of chemistry, if there is nothing they don't really feel like doing it, but again in estark so far all of them have provided this service, except for one who said just kissing but not DFK.

[PayForIt]

As I've said to you before, you're talking about maybe 5% of the working girls in Spain. Or less. There's the small town clubs throughout the country. Never noticed much reluctance over BBBJs in them. But a different circuit of girls & different clients.

If you look at things from the girls' point of view, it's not hard to understand. Big club clients are hardly flavour of the month. No girl enjoys being pawed by full-of-themselves drunks. Even more so in the resort towns. Foreign tourists sweaty after a day in the sun & beer. A rudimentary shower, a belly full of curry & more beer & it's "Whay-hay lads. Let's go to a club!" Sure they're easy pickings but they're mostly half hour pump & dumps. Most girls either won't work the big clubs or have & are happy to get out. The girls who stick it are money-in-a-hurry for doing the least. Incentives. The majority of big club punters are one-offs or irregular visitors.

In a previous post you were dismissive of the talent in Casa Masa. You got it exactly the wrong way round. I know one of the previous hostesses. The last thing she'd need would be highly competitive club girl eyecandy. A couple of them would turn it into a battleground. They'd lose their girls & their clients. A good villa functions like a happy family. The manager manages the girls (and the clients) so they all get a slice of the pie. Sure you can go to a villa & they'll give you a parada & you can bang the talent. But then you might as well go to an apartment for the same. For its regular clients a good villa will be a home from home. They're not just about sex. Hospitality. Watching the big game with your mates with drinks & girls available to help celebrate victories or console defeats. Gambling. Not coin in the slot la Estark's "casino" but chips on the table card schools. (I know a French guy in Marbella will run it.) You must have heard of "white parties". What better place to have a stag night? Small town clubs can have a similarity to villas because their clientele base is limited.

What goes on in FKK's I haven't a clue (You do know that freikorperkultur is just the camouflage they operate under? Don't think just because you see a FKK sign you can fuck the grannies) But again, they won't be representative of what's available in the country. Germany's got its own villas. As have France, Belgium & Holland. And its own apartments & independents. Prostitution's like icebergs. The easily visible bits are just the bits above the waves where the penguins hang out.

I cannot quite believe I'm about to write this after the many spats we've had. But I found your post illuminating and informative and mainly correct. Totally get girls not wanting to give a decent BBBJ or indeed anything else to some fat, sweaty, curry-filled drunk tourist. In fact any of those 3 should rule out going to the room unless the girl is desperate for the cash. But this is not the typical tourist in a club. I've been going to these clubs for nearly 30 years not just in Spain. Sure you get some idiots, loud, drunk, sweaty etc. But I'm sure that happens in villas too. I've watched the guys on the door throw several out at E92. In Scandalos 4 years ago 3 large Russians decided to pick a fight with one of the main longstanding bouncers. A good friend of mine. Until his pals arrived I decided to pitch in to help him. Not that I wanted to, but I like the guy, and although he is massive he stood little chance against three so I decided to even the odds and I am not small. When two other girls from the door arrived quickly the odds fell in our favour and we hurled all three out of the club, one of them with several teeth missing. When Jummy1 unkindly (as he doesn't know me) complained about me "bragging about being welcome", (a) that lending of assistance has not been forgotten in the club by management, the longstanding staff and even the girls who have been there a while and (b) I am not idiot. I am well aware that as I spend quite a bit of money in these places I am bound to be welcome. Not for my sparking personality (which of course is not in doubt! But because of my willingness to part with decent cash for good service.

You are not entirely correct about the girls who stay for a long time in the big clubs. Whilst without doubt, most working girls like "money in a hurry" clients where the girls don't need to do much for their bucks, the truth is that some of the girls who have been at E92 and Scandalos for 6 or more years plus stay because they like the security. If things get ugly in the room they can get help and quickly. That is a big plus for them. It is a secure environment most of the time. I don't say always. Girls have been murdered in clubs across Europe as well is when working privately.

Whilst you are not wrong that a lot of the punters are one-offs, there are also many, like me, who are regulars. I don't mean the Spanish guys who go for two beers and the eye candy. I mean regulars I have come to know over the years.

Your description of the villa as a home from home for regulars was genuinely a head-turner. Never thought of it like that and I can imagine that it would be great. I have a similar set up with two tiny clubs. One in Spain and one in Switzerland, where I know the owners, girls and can go to these places sometimes not for sex at all. Great social atmosphere etc. But then that is also true of some smaller FKKs where again everyone gets to know you. So the thought of finding a villa with 4 or 5 pretty girls but where the experience is far more than just parade, sex out. Yep I would very much enjoy that. I love the small town club of Cleofas in Campamento. Never more than 5 girls at most but fabulous pool table and playing the girls and staff is terrific and the owners are great. I much prefer it to Fontana and as chance has it am about to frequent both tonight! I have regularly not gotten to Fontana because I have had such a great night at Cleofas, playing pool, watching some sport on the TV, chatting to the married owners, the girls, punters and then having a room or two. Fabulous.

If the final comment was intended to suggest I'm a penguin I'll take it. I love them! Cute little things.

And back on topic, yep. In the smaller clubs BBBJ is expected as standard. I don't blame many of the girls in the bigger clubs having rules about not doing it especially if confronted with the type of client you describe. But there are some who either genuinely will not budge no matter how well groomed, sober, slim, non-curry filled, non-sweaty, non-suntanned client. Until they get to know that guy a little, and maybe believe he is not one of those one-offs you mention, they stay by their stance. It changes if they get to know you. That's not (for Jummy's sake) "bragging" about being welcome. It's (a) normal guidance to the person who asked (Sirioja) that familiarity in these circumstances breeds not contempt but assurance and (b) normal rules of this sport that regulars are treated better if they don't rock up with your quoted beer belly, stinking of curry or anything else, fat, and worst of all sweaty.

I have been to Casa Masa 4 times and not had a good experience (other than in the room). It was off-putting. If there is a villa on the coast, where punters are welcome to turn up mid-afternoon, enjoy lazing around the pool with some pretty girls, a beer or two (but not 6), maybe some food, a glass of wine, and a couple of great hours with one or two of the girls, please let me know which one that is and I will try it for sure. Jesus, AE. You might even be there and we could "take in a game". Who would have believed it?!

[Andalus Expat]

This might well be true in relation to the use of private escorts. Indeed most adds on slumi openly state BBBJ and of course they are offering that to everyone without knowing if they are clear or not. No doubt because they'll ensure the wash / wipe. But in clubs in Spain there are many girls who simply refuse altogether. They then fall into two categories (1) As I posted to Sirioja, some will relent if they get to know a regular customer, but (2) some won't. I know of 3 girls who work at E92, all lovely girls but none of those three will ever do BBBJ and they make a point of telling the customer in the club downstairs that if they want this they should choose someone else as they 100% will not do it. They do still get customers, including repeat customers because of their other attributes / skills.

I agree with you that it is not a question of money / an extra. The girls who do it here (which is most) don't charge for it. BBBJ was part of the service in FKK land until July 2017 when the law changed to outlaw it. Silly unenforceable law but serious fines for those "caught" transgressing and for a short time they did send undercover LE into clubs to find out if girls did it. When they got to the point of doing it they were arrested and some had 5000 fines. Crazy...

As I've said to you before, you're talking about maybe 5% of the working girls in Spain. Or less. There's the small town clubs throughout the country. Never noticed much reluctance over BBBJs in them. But a different circuit of girls & different clients.

If you look at things from the girls' point of view, it's not hard to understand. Big club clients are hardly flavour of the month. No girl enjoys being pawed by full-of-themselves drunks. Even more so in the resort towns. Foreign tourists sweaty after a day in the sun & beer. A rudimentary shower, a belly full of curry & more beer & it's "Whay-hay lads. Let's go to a club!" Sure they're easy pickings but they're mostly half hour pump & dumps. Most girls either won't work the big clubs or have & are happy to get out. The girls who stick it are money-in-a-hurry for doing the least. Incentives. The majority of big club punters are one-offs or irregular visitors.

In a previous post you were dismissive of the talent in Casa Masa. You got it exactly the wrong way round. I know one of the previous hostesses. The last thing she'd need would be highly competitive club girl eyecandy. A couple of them would turn it into a battleground. They'd lose their girls & their clients. A good villa functions like a happy family. The manager manages the girls (and the clients) so they all get a slice of the pie. Sure you can go to a villa & they'll give you a parada & you can bang the talent. But then you might as well go to an apartment for the same. For its regular clients a good villa will be a home from home. They're not just about sex. Hospitality. Watching the big game with your mates with drinks & girls available to help celebrate victories or console defeats. Gambling. Not coin in the slot á la Estark's "casino" but chips on the table card schools. (I know a French guy in Marbella will run it.) You must have heard of "white parties". What better place to have a stag night? Small town clubs can have a similarity to villas because their clientele base is limited.

What goes on in FKK's I haven't a clue (You do know that freikorperkultur is just the camouflage they operate under? Don't think just because you see a FKK sign you can fuck the grannies) But again, they won't be representative of what's available in the country. Germany's got its own villas. As have France, Belgium & Holland. And its own apartments & independents. Prostitution's like icebergs. The easily visible bits are just the bits above the waves where the penguins hang out.

[PayForIt]

PayForIt,

CBBJ's are a rarity, if anything, here. I honestly cannot remember the last girl who insisted. Any girl who didn't provide the service wouldn't get any repeat customers. It's not even an extra requires paying for. (unless they reckon you're a mug) It's taken for granted.

Sometimes one might get taken to the bathroom for a wash & polish but, if they know you & that you're considerate enough to have a shower before appointments, not even that. Maybe a wipe with a toallita.

This might well be true in relation to the use of private escorts. Indeed most adds on slumi openly state BBBJ and of course they are offering that to everyone without knowing if they are clear or not. No doubt because they'll ensure the wash / wipe. But in clubs in Spain there are many girls who simply refuse altogether. They then fall into two categories (1) As I posted to Sirioja, some will relent if they get to know a regular customer, but (2) some won't. I know of 3 girls who work at E92, all lovely girls but none of those three will ever do BBBJ and they make a point of telling the customer in the club downstairs that if they want this they should choose someone else as they 100% will not do it. They do still get customers, including repeat customers because of their other attributes / skills.

I agree with you that it is not a question of money / an extra. The girls who do it here (which is most) don't charge for it. BBBJ was part of the service in FKK land until July 2017 when the law changed to outlaw it. Silly unenforceable law but serious fines for those "caught" transgressing and for a short time they did send undercover LE into clubs to find out if girls did it. When they got to the point of doing it they were arrested and some had 5000 fines. Crazy. But since the early enactment of that law, things have relaxed a lot. LE has realised it is virtually impossible to enforce. But it gave girls a window to use BBBJ as a big upsell along the lines of "well baby I'm taking a big risk so you have to pay". In most clubs that has gone too, though in FKK Artemis, the only FKK in Berlin, it has become a 20 extra. Pay it or it's CBJ. So far as I know, it has always been an extra in FKK Atmos(Hamburg), and in several places in Munich, but pretty much everywhere else BBBJ is an expected part of the service.

The girls in Spain didn't get that windfall from a law change, but as I say, at least in clubs, and this isn't just E92, it applies also in Vive Madrid, Estark at Diana Plus, E92, Scandalos, Sala Divas, Bel Air, Glass Palace Estepona and Fontana. There are some girls who will simply not be persuaded to do BBBJ. I don't doubt what you say that it might cost them some customers. But my overall advice to Siri was to differentiate between here and Germany. There, it's now back to it being standard without request, in Spanish clubs, it's best to check as not everyone does it.

[Andalus Expat]

BBBJ is not standard in Spain.

PayForIt,

CBBJ's are a rarity, if anything, here. I honestly cannot remember the last girl who insisted. Any girl who didn't provide the service wouldn't get any repeat customers. It's not even an extra requires paying for. (unless they reckon you're a mug) It's taken for granted.

Sometimes one might get taken to the bathroom for a wash & polish but, if they know you & that you're considerate enough to have a shower before appointments, not even that. Maybe a wipe with a toallita.

[PayForIt]

Contemplated Selecta or Scandalous (prices) but opted to return to my favourite E92 tonight, What a great choice. There were at least 15 girls I would have been very happy to take to the room, and I am told I am horribly picky / choosy. Some of the options were just off the scale tonight. Christina, blonde, Brazilian with fabulous body, looked to die for. Easily 9/10. Alina is back. She is total Sophie Loren lookalike. I have never taken her to the room. I will be putting that right. New tall brunette ro. In 30's but what a body and face. Easily 8/10. Ina looked sensational in red dress. I could go on and on. There were at least 10 girls tonight who looked 8+/10. Spoilt for choice.

The girls were well occupied by a large, well behaved crowd. It was a great atmosphere in there tonight. Party / fun / sexy.

I chose Elena (brunette Ro who was a fav of mine in 2018). Forgotten how incredible her nipples are (large and erect), great boobs, very pretty face and excellent service. The intended 1 hour easily became two until I all but staggered out of her room after 2 incredible hours. Just a fabulous time and club is really bouncing. Great to see post pandemic.

[PayForIt]

For me Spain is much better than Germany to feel like on holidays and better foods, but when real French kiss, BBBJ and DATY are very standard for me in FKK and really important for my way of sex, maybe I didn't understand in good way, but don't seem same standard in Spanish brothels, when I can't have pleasure without kissing. Is it quite standard at E92?

Firstly, Spain does NOT feel like on holidays right now. I have been here for 6 weeks now other than a quick 3 day trip to Frankfurt (reported on visits to Sharks, Oase and Palace) as I could not resist the temptation to get my first FKK trip in 2022 in. But in honesty, the weather in Germany, and even in the UK, is far far better than in Spain right now. The sun shone today for the first time properly in weeks. It is very very wet and windy here. Not holidays at all.

There are better foods in Spain if you eat in the right places and indeed the wine is better than in Germany. BBBJ is not standard in Spain. If you get to know the girl it becomes standard. I have maybe 10-15 girls I know well enough now in E92 that they will all give me BBBJ. But then they know me, they have been in the room many times with me, or their friends have. So they know I am ultra clean, totally shaven where it matters and because of this hobby I test every three weeks just in case. Never had an STD in my life but when you are having sex with so many people it is wise to check. It's not expensive and takes 5 minutes! So the girls feel pretty comfortable with BBBJ with me. If I go with a new girl I will ask for it, be told "I don't do it for anyone baby" and after they either speak to someone I suggest they talk to, or have 40 minutes in the room, they will agree.

I have never had anyone refuse DATY in any country! So if BBBJ is absolutely essential you would need to work at it! I also know from your many posts in the German forums you are a big fan of DFK. Again, very much depends on the girl here. Many don't at first. Same story as BBBJ. You have to remember the model is different. In Germany they require extra money for CIM, COB, CIF, Anal, BDSM. Here it is different. The hourly price is fixed (in E92 it is €150/60 - pretty much same as FKK land now with some exceptions) and they either include it all or not.

So because of your preferences for kissing and BBBJ, and because the weather is truly awful and the forecast is for more rain for at least another week or so, if I were you I would stick with FKK land. The shame is that the options (you call it casting) in E92 is really really good with a lot of great choices. See my further report tonight.

[Sirioja]

True re last summer Sirioja but then it was mid-pandemic! I did Sharks, Oase, Mainhattan and Palace in September and it was well down on previous years with tests at the door and requirement at one point for ID. Always off-putting for punters. Last week that had almost all disappeared. I was disappointed with Sharks last week but Palace was really good. Oase is not the same without the sun. As a general overall experience FKK is impossible to beat (for me). Nothing comparable in Spain. The few private villas where they have 5 or 6 girls only to choose from are expensive and often with girls who cannot make a living in clubs as they are not pretty enough to compete. There are always exceptions but the price point is not good either. I did a trip to Casa Masa (near Milady Palace) in 2019 and the standard was terrible - 5 girls and 250/ hour. No thanks!

For me Spain is much better than Germany to feel like on holidays and better foods, but when real French kiss, BBBJ and DATY are very standard for me in FKK and really important for my way of sex, maybe I didn't understand in good way, but don't seem same standard in Spanish brothels, when I can't have pleasure without kissing. Is it quite standard at E92?

[PayForIt]

Oh, I think that's too tall for my taste.

How was the club on Thursday night? Lots working? Clients?

Is bianca still there (new boob)? Do you know whether she gives good service or not?

With the heels on she is easily 6'4". But it was worth a try. A member of this forum posted that he tried her three times last year. Couldn't get her out of his head. I sort of get it. She is very imposing and facially very pretty, but once was enough for me.

Club was bouncing off the walls after midnight. A lot of punters and a lot of girls. Quite a few new latinas. Several mentioned again having come from Scandalos. Whilst I'm determined to get back there to check it out soon, the increased pricing is not to every taste and I think what is becoming very clear is that the girls are finding it hard to actually snare a punter willing to spend that sort of money. One told me that whilst there are still big spenders there they "think they own you" and don't always treat girls very well in the room. Most working girls hate the phrase "but I have paid you" as if they are then entitled to do anything they want. I'm getting the impression that this is typical of the standard Scandalous (prices) client. Of course it won't be true of all. But the fact that the girls are leaving in numbers for "cheaper" clubs speaks volumes. Several 8/10 latinas last night. So it is not as if they are ugly!

No sign of Bianca on my visits in 2022.

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Honestly no idea on either as I no longer go with her but she is in the club most nights and lives in it. She wasn't there tonight. Thursday.

I tried an hour with the giraffe. Alicia - half Romanian Half Ukrainian. Stunning blonde. Model. Easily over 6 ft night with no heels. Wears heels and stockings in the club. Very sexy. Room just average. She likes her 'comforts' - (comes in varieties of pink or white, or green weed, or tablets). Not for me, stunning looking. Just average service.

Oh, I think that's too tall for my taste.

How was the club on Thursday night? Lots working? Clients?

Is bianca still there (new boob)? Do you know whether she gives good service or not?

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Ahhh okkk thanks. Then I have to go and see. Because no BBBJ and DFK means there is no service for me. Do you know what days she works and what time she comes down?

Honestly no idea on either as I no longer go with her but she is in the club most nights and lives in it. She wasn't there tonight. Thursday.

I tried an hour with the giraffe. Alicia - half Romanian Half Ukrainian. Stunning blonde. Model. Easily over 6 ft night with no heels. Wears heels and stockings in the club. Very sexy. Room just average. She likes her 'comforts' - (comes in varieties of pink or white, or green weed, or tablets). Not for me, stunning looking. Just average service.