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[PayForIt]

Thanks to AE and Pepe for their reports. Couple of points to correct:

Casino in E92 doesn't close at 21.00 but at midnight unless they changed it either last week or for a Sunday. Normally midnight.

There are in fact 2 managers at E92 - both long serving and they rotate who works. Both nice guys. One Spanish the other Romanian.

Girl drinks are indeed 50 in Scandalos but are 30 not 50 in E92. It is 50 e for a small bottle of champagne in E92 for the girl. She just didn't tell you that there is another cheaper option! Clearly trying it on.

Prices quoted at Scandalos are largely correct but most of the girls in Scandalos demanding 250/ hour will negotiate. I tend to tell them I will do the following deal: I want to pay 400/2 hours. If the service is good after one hour we continue to 2 hours for the 400. If I decide to end the session after only one hour I'll pay the 250 - but that is my choice not theirs. I have not had a single girl refuse this. The service is therefore then usually excellent as they want the second hour. Albeit only at 150, given that the alternative is having to head downstairs, quick shower / freshen up, then hit the bar hoping for another punter when they have one already snared in the room willing to hit go on the second hour.

The notion of Scandalos going out of business, respectfully, is hopelessly misconceived. I really would not judge any club on a slow Sunday night. The fact that there were 45 girls in E92 on a Sunday tells me they are up to over 60 on Fridays and Saturdays. I recently spent 4 nights in 3 weeks in Scandalos and the place was bouncing. Lots of punters, lots of girls and no sign at all of a pandemic or slow trade. I spoke recently with one of the female house managers and I can tell you that the club is performing really well in the recovery post pandemic. You will not be seeing Scandalos close anytime soon. Sad to see one or two of the smaller venues fall victim to the pandemic. The big clubs won't do so and as I have reported before. E92 is seeing money spend on rooms etc.

Surprised you came across a stunner in Sala Divas! I shall check her out! Glad the standard of girls at Scandalos has remained very high but you will not have seen the best of the talent on Sundays. Day off for many of them. My two favourites there only work 3 nights per week. They are making enough on just those nights not to have to work any harder.

Good to see some of you officinados of villas and the bait and switch escort sites trying out the club scene and reporting back. Long may it continue!

[Andalus Expat]

Whether various venues are or have been open. It's something we've been seeing through the past 18 months. Places reopening then closing again. It's happening all over Spain. Much of it's due to Catch 22. A venue isn't a venue without its girls. Girls won't work in a venue if there's no clients. Clients won't go to a venue without girls. So it's very hard for them to leverage themselves up from being closed. It's entirely possible the Golden Chicken got itself a brace or two of wenches, opened its doors for a while. But the punters didn't flock in, the girls made no money & shoved off & it shut again. They may make another attempt to reopen some time in the future.

Also most of these venues will be companies. With balance sheets. Assets in one column, liabilities in the other. The management of a company is legally obliged to manage the company in the interests of the company, not themselves. They can't just shut up shop & walk away from it. They'd become personally liable for the liabilities of the company. Those liabilities may include taxes outstanding, debt, invoices owing to suppliers, redundancy entitlements for contract employees dismissed & so on. Assets being a puticlub with fixtures & fittings no one's interested in buying & business goodwill vanished with Coronavirus. So you're going to see venues that are just trading down into insolvency. They're not closed yet but they will be.

I'd guess that's what you're seeing at Scandalos. Although I'd say they commenced that process long before Coronavirus arrived. They're pitching at a market doesn't exist. Much the same market as Milady & Babylon at Marbella service. But trying to do it with a two star hotel on an industrial estate on the outskirts of Malaga. It was never going to happen. Couple of years ago I wrote a report on a place called El Themple in Malaga's old city. A whole town house decorated & furnished from basement to roof in impeccable luxury. A line-up of girls made Scandalo's offings look like the tatty circuit putas they are. Prices much the same as Scandalo's current. But you wouldn't mind paying them. Maybe El Themple would have succeeded. Looks like coronapanic's killed it. Pepe tried the number of a girl I believe he saw on Slumi. Not getting an answer on his UK phone we tried it on mine. Came up as the Themple number's in my contacts, but not answered. They've been various strategies in the last year. At one point they were advertising as a massage service & also for masseuses. Who knows?

Estark? Both Pepe & I run businesses. We understand turnover & that there's a minimum turnover you need to start making profit. With much less money around is Estark making that?

[Pepe1976X]

Read Angus (Andaluz Ex Pat) for main breakdown of Sunday nights trip to various CDS Puterias!

As they say in Rio de Janiero " every day I have to kill a Lion! " sums up the WG's experince of putering in Spain presently. They were used to catching Tuna and Salmon and now they are only landing Sprats and Sardines!

Here are a few of my own recollections which are worth raising as several conflict a series of recent contributions. Which I doubted when originally reading but now I can confirm them to be incorrect! L'Coq Dior Golden Rooster seems to be permanently closed and sadly the great Selecta could also be gone too! Closed with little sign of it re-emerging This was a nightclub not a Villa! The putas of the Club scene are getting few punters in general. Very few Brits there and not many high rollers amongst the Spanish or other tourists. Prices can vary from Girl to Girl A very attractive Rom WG living in Madrid at Sala Divas quoted 200 E per hour. Attractive enough and good enough body to be in Scandalos She was so hungry for a deal agreed to rear entry which she obviously detested the idea of!

Scanadols, most girls claimed the weekend was ok for clients but whilst we where there it was less than 50% of previous years Sunday punter levels. Girls were reduced in numbers but there were at least 10 who were 8's and higher. All were Latinas. 250 E's for an hour but were trying to get a 300 E bottle of champagne first. They really misplayed their hand. Delusional figures when you consider their combined drinks and banging price could gain 7 individual 30 min bangs in Privees. Even the Moroccan drug smuggling contingent were not buying upstairs room time just drinking or smoking shisha pipes. I drank Legendario with Water whilst the Wingman drank Coke 32 E for a round. No door entry charge. The current manager from at least 7 years still in charge.

Estark 92 had approx 45 WGs all of a less attractive appearance than Scandalos. The current manager from at least 7 years still in charge. Huge Romanian contingent who were mainly not proactive and sitting / standing around making it hard to approach groupos. Still Casino only open up to 21.00 hrs then Club only open and until 02.00 hrs. Again the congested Casino before 09.00 pm is tough mixing around and doing your Q and A's. Was quoted both 30 E's and 50 E's for a lady drink. High turnover of Putas with lots only recently arriving or shortly about to leave but charging 30 minutes 80 Es. The Spanish Carousel and Merry Go Round is in full effect! Several nice Brailianas but the best of those from Southern Brasil was tough engaging conversation with but very atractive girl. On this basis the E92 business model does not seem to be in any danger but whether Scandalos survives the lack of punters is much less likely.

Was a very quick trip for me but wading through Slumi and Pasion.com should you have the time and able to Hablar and having the time and patience to deal with the usual difficulties of the Apartment / Villa scene would definitely be my current recommendation. Outside of that E92 but don't dive in as hungry Putas will promise you the Earth. Over 20 years of CDS Club experience and it's basically still the same but different. Sure you can still have a great time there whatever your favourite method of sourcing the WGs is!

[Andalus Expat]

Great report!

1. I don't believe the lady drinks have a set rate, you might as well get away with paying 30-40 euros depending on the girl. Or at least that's how it used to be pre COVID.

2. 32 euros sounds expensive for a gin & tonic and a coke. Seems ridiculous (and expensive) if they charge the gt as two separate drinks.

3. I don't believe that 200 euros is enough to get an hour in Scandalo, lmfao!.

The drinks bill was for whatever Pepe had & my coke. (I had the misfortune to be the duty driver.) How that one broke down I couldn't tell you. Any amount seems expensive to me. I'm used to being given drinks, not paying for them. 50 in Scandalos for a girl drink does seem to be the tab. The Colombiana in 92 told me it was the same there. I did get the impression the hourly rate in Scandalos was 200. But it wasn't a question I was going to directly ask. I was fending off sales patter not trying to negotiate.

What I did take away from Scandalos was; with 4 floor staff working the bar, 2 doing front of house & however many they have backstage it wasn't clearing much money. Not for Sunday peak holiday season.

Estark looked a lot busier but I didn't get the impression there was that much money being spent there either. The clientele looked mainly Spanish. 20's to 30's standing in groups of 3 or 4. Maybe some displaced from Scandalos by the high prices. Or maybe on holiday here from inland Spain. Pepe commented on the girls roosting in disinterested groups, apparently having given up schmoozing for victims.

How you'd get on with your negotiating I couldn't tell you. I know the break even for girls on the big club circuit is around 200 euros a day. Room rent. Meals. They're high maintenance. Hair & nails can be 100 a pop 2 or 3 times a week. More if they have extensions in. And some have other habits to support. My new found Colombiana acquaintance had been in 92 a couple of days & was already talking about moving on. The problem girls have is burning their working capital. Not having enough to get them to & into the next venue. You may chance across a girl in panic mode. But you have to see things from the girl's point of view. The rate for a 2 am to 7 am all-nighter may be 750 euros. To her, doing it for 400 is her giving you 350. The service you get may reflect that. It would depend on you. However, a good club girl can fuck her way through 2-3000 blokes a year. The majority of whom are paying for sex because that's the only way they get any. Whatever you might be led to believe, the affinity they feel for any particular client approximates zero. They're just good actresses. What you're paying them for.

[ShooBree]

You asked for it.

A trip out chauffeuring the illustrious Senor Pepe of this parish.

Sala Diva-Malaga Echoed (echoed. Echoed). When you're the only two prospective victims in a sizeable bar. Maybe a dozen girls. Entrada of 10 euros buys your first drink. And our last.

Club Selecta- El Penillo, Torremolinos. Dark, gates firmly closed, maybe permanently.

Scandalos, - Guadalhorce Industrial Estate, Churriana, Malaga. Now free entrance. And the only good deal going. Gin & tonic & a Coca-Cola 32 euros. Drink for a girl 50. Pepe seemed impressed by the line-up. Couple dozen of them. Personally. Being thoroughly recalibrated to the CDS not just de-planed from the Isle of Ugly Women & seeing better talent on the street every day. Not so much. Counted 12 punters in the bar & a couple more arrived while we were there (midnight). Maybe some were upstairs paying 200 hour for the privilege. There were certainly more than a dozen cars outside.

Great report!

1. I don't believe the lady drinks have a set rate, you might as well get away with paying 30-40 euros depending on the girl. Or at least that's how it used to be pre COVID.

2. 32 euros sounds expensive for a gin & tonic and a coke. Seems ridiculous (and expensive) if they charge the gt as two separate drinks.

3. I don't believe that 200 euros is enough to get an hour in Scandalo, lmfao!

4. I'm not interested in paying over 200 euros for an hour but I do wonder if will be able to get an all-nighter for 400-500 euros. In my first visit to Scandalo ever back in 2011 I managed to do an all-nighter back in my hotel with a hot Latina for 300-400 without negotiating the price or even have spoken to her before. Hopefully there aren't too much business for the girls.

[Andalus Expat]

Report back on your next visit please.

You asked for it.

A trip out chauffeuring the illustrious Senor Pepe of this parish.

Sala Diva-Malaga Echoed (echoed. Echoed). When you're the only two prospective victims in a sizeable bar. Maybe a dozen girls. Entrada of 10 euros buys your first drink. And our last.

Club Selecta- El Penillo, Torremolinos. Dark, gates firmly closed, maybe permanently.

Scandalos, - Guadalhorce Industrial Estate, Churriana, Malaga. Now free entrance. And the only good deal going. Gin & tonic & a Coca-Cola 32 euros. Drink for a girl 50. Pepe seemed impressed by the line-up. Couple dozen of them. Personally. Being thoroughly recalibrated to the CDS not just de-planed from the Isle of Ugly Women & seeing better talent on the street every day. Not so much. Counted 12 punters in the bar & a couple more arrived while we were there (midnight). Maybe some were upstairs paying 200 hour for the privilege. There were certainly more than a dozen cars outside.

Estark. Carvajal. Definitely a lot more geezers in there than there were last week. Looked like mostly Spanish. Had a chat with a blonde Colombiana on her first visit to the CDS. If I hadn't been in Estark, I might have fancied her. Managed a conversation that got past the sales patter. Been 5 years working clubs in Valencia, Alicante, Benidorm etc So that may be telling us how things are, that stretch of the coast. And not doing much better here I gather. I gave her the number of an amiga if she fancies a change of employment.

Left headed for 2 AM on a fruitless search for a kebab takeaway. Bit hopeful, that one. Even Gloria's bar-of-last-resort was dark. There just aren't enough people here to make opening that late worthwhile.

We by passed the (correctly unspellable on ISG) Golden Chicken at Torrequebrada on our travels. Dark & apparently shut. Another one gone? So was a villa in Calle Colombia, Torremolinos Pepe recalled from some years ago.

[Qazwsx5]

Quite honestly, I was paying little attention to the girls apart from trying to avoid them. Not why I was there. Bit of research for some girls I know run a villa. They're pitching into a similar market clubs attract. So I was concentrating on numbers & profiles of punters & money flow. How much was going across the bar. How successful the girls were at getting work. Learnt a lot but I'll probably do another visit this weekend for a comparison. Might bring a xica with me. Been done before as Pepe will remember. Let her schmooze the girls.

Report back on your next visit please.

[Jummy1]

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[Andalus Expat]

Quick couple of responses to the above and your visit to E92.
You describe it as Fat City. Whilst undoubtedly there are indeed some heavy girls there, the number of attractive slim ones far outweigh the curvy girls..

You're obviously not completely aux fait with American English, PayForIt. Fat City. In the cream. Nothing to do with the heftiness of the hetaerae. It's gotten well into English- English as well, or the version I hear. Happy Days. The Fonze. Movies. And this is the International Sex Guide.

Quite honestly, I was paying little attention to the girls apart from trying to avoid them. Not why I was there. Bit of research for some girls I know run a villa. They're pitching into a similar market clubs attract. So I was concentrating on numbers & profiles of punters & money flow. How much was going across the bar. How successful the girls were at getting work. Learnt a lot but I'll probably do another visit this weekend for a comparison. Might bring a xica with me. Been done before as Pepe will remember. Let her schmooze the girls.

[Andalus Expat]

True, but sometimes it happens, if the girl likes you and you treat her well. But they usually do not want it as it makes working harder.

About the threesome, I want to try it once. I was offered a few times but rejected, because it was my first session with them and did not want to pay double and be disappointed. The thing is if there are two of them in the room they may not work as hard as they would if they were alone in the room with you, so it is a bit risky. I prefer to try them one by one and then take the ones who give good service upstairs, then again those two must also like each other, so it is a bit complicated.

Thing you need to understand is putas try to be in control of the client. Manage the encounter to their own advantage. Club girls especially, because they want to get you finished with the least hustle & get back down to the bar for another victim's money. You must have experienced it. The girl who's intent on going through her repertoire irrespective of what you wanted to do. With two in the room you're outnumbered. And yes, they will see it as an opportunity to do half the work for the same money. One tactic is to get the client to dump a load early in the time paid for. Then work on him so he's headed towards another at the end hoping he'll spring for more time. It's a win-win-win situation for them. He may call it a day because he can't get it up again & shove off early. Or they can try the "You only paid for one cum" ploy for the same result. Or they go for the extra time bonus. Always remember. For them this is work not sex.

I like two girl sessions in a three way interactive mode. But I'd generally only do it with the girls on outcalls where it's my turf & I'm in control. I see most girls on outcalls, anyway, for that reason. I look at visiting girls as prospecting for the future. And I would generally only do threesomes where I already know the girls. There's been a few occasions when I've had a girl here was hot for some girl-girl fun. We've gone through the ads together looking for likely candidates. Even with her doing the phoning & grilling the prospects, we've had out disappointments. And a word of caution. You have a couple of chicas really getting into each other, you might be finding yourself sidelined at times. Just enjoy the optics.

[ShooBree]

True, but sometimes it happens, if the girl likes you and you treat her well. But they usually do not want it as it makes working harder.

About the threesome, I want to try it once. I was offered a few times but rejected, because it was my first session with them and did not want to pay double and be disappointed. The thing is if there are two of them in the room they may not work as hard as they would if they were alone in the room with you, so it is a bit risky. I prefer to try them one by one and then take the ones who give good service upstairs, then again those two must also like each other, so it is a bit complicated.

Well there's an old saying that all working girls are lesbians and even if all of them are not lesbians I would say that the proportion of lesbians were pretty high in Scandalo before the Corona. I saw a lady customer in the club and asked my "regular" about her and got the answer that the lady customer was a working girl lesbian coming in the club on her night off and was pretty popular among the other WG: s. I also remember how a great girl I used to fuck for free after closure several years ago complained to me about how another WG had started kissing her out of nowhere. I've also seen girls with lipstick on their necks.

So with that background I don't think that it should be too hard to find some real lesbians in the clubs.

[Qazwsx5]

For those interested, dropped by Estark on the way home about 23:00. Stayed maybe half an hour. Place was thick with girls. Too many to do an accurate headcount but I'd guess well north of 30. Maybe 40. Despite best efforts, was accosted by a brunette about 30,5'10" Said she was Romanian from a town I've vaguely. My experience of RO are limited to Bucharest, Constanta & a lot of road. When offers to adjourn upstairs were declined departed. Shorter podgy brunette, similar age. Claimed Italian but seemed hazy about Italy. Maybe another RO or BG. Bit hard to shake off. Stroppy departure. Brasilena blonde, pneumatic. Said Paulista. From then on, just kept moving ahead of the pack. There was one punter in the cafeteria area & I'd reckon 5 maybe 6 in the main room. Notably the bar itself was virtually devoid of glasses or drinkers & the bar staff pretty well redundant.

Car park was full thanks to Audi soft-top occupying two bays. The parking spaces in proximity to the club were pretty well taken. Just managed to squeeze the chariot in. Must get the swords on the wheels sharpened. About half of the cars could have been hire cars. Going on models, not stickers. Plenty of parking a short way further up the road. So some of those cars could have been accounted for by punters upstairs. No convoys of cabs were drawing up & disgorging.

OK. It was a Monday & fairly early. But tourist season, Monday can be the first night of being out on the loose for weekend arrivals. And with an 02:00 shutdown (Presume that still applies. I'm having trouble keeping up with government promulgations, they come so thick & fast) that doesn't leave much time for separating the victims from their folding stuff. Definitely this was Fat City for those intent on romping club putas. What it may say about the future of this club or clubs in general may be a different matter. They need more than a few busy nights in July & August. They need solid turnover right through the year. They've just gone through a year of virtually none. Club will have made money renting the rooms to the girls. But I know 5 girls who keep flats here but work away, in clubs in other parts of Spain. They're reluctantly staying home & trying to work on their doorstep in a market got a vast oversupply of talent & not much demand. Puta earnings are down at least 50% on 2019. Depends if clubs can keep the girls. If they're not earning they're gone.

Clearly they are not making as much as they were a few years ago. But they have tried to reduce their costs in order to survive. And to be honest they are not doing very badly. 92 is quite busy at nights, not many many punters but enough to keep them going. If you head to marbella area the clubs are a lot busier because there is more money over there. Scandalo is also doing quite well.

[Qazwsx5]

Couple of things to say about this quote. Firstly, with a putas, unless you know her very well, the only person having sex in the room is you. The other (s) is / are working. Unless the two girls, for some reason of theirs get off on each other, it's theatre. Yep, being worked over by a couple of girls simultaneously can be great fun. Give your fantasies free range. Star in your own porn movie. But don't kid yourself.

The other's orgasms with clients. Generally they don't. Ask any puta willing to give you an honest reply. The reason's not hard to work out if you think about it. To orgasm they have to be sexually aroused. Not just a bit damp around the knicker gusset. All sorts of stuff down there engorges & gets very sensitive. After an orgasm, that can take considerable time to calm down. The next client might not be as considerate as you've been. Clumsy fumbling around & rough penetrative sex can be downright uncomfortable or even painful. Orgasms may make working for the rest of the shift a no-no or she risks making the next shift a torture. Yeah there's always the exceptions. I know a xica would happily bang a football team. Rugby Union. Both teams & the reserves. Three at a time. And orgasm right the way through. It's her fantasy. But she's heavily sub. She gets off on pain. Most women don't.

True, but sometimes it happens, if the girl likes you and you treat her well. But they usually do not want it as it makes working harder.

About the threesome, I want to try it once. I was offered a few times but rejected, because it was my first session with them and did not want to pay double and be disappointed. The thing is if there are two of them in the room they may not work as hard as they would if they were alone in the room with you, so it is a bit risky. I prefer to try them one by one and then take the ones who give good service upstairs, then again those two must also like each other, so it is a bit complicated.

[PayForIt]

Couple of things to say about this quote. Firstly, with a putas, unless you know her very well, the only person having sex in the room is you. The other (s) is / are working. Unless the two girls, for some reason of theirs get off on each other, it's theatre.

The other's orgasms with clients. Generally they don't.

Quick couple of responses to the above and your visit to E92.

E92. You describe it as Fat City. Whilst undoubtedly there are indeed some heavy girls there, the number of attractive slim ones far outweigh the curvy girls. My last visit a few weeks ago saw me actually struggle to choose from an increasingly improving line up. Of course, we are all different, but I know from long experience that I am very picky and I wouldn't return as often as I do if the club only offered low quality girls. As I have reported, Scandalos was much better for quality this trip. But horribly expensive.

Threesomes. To each their own. All putas when having sex are working. Not many finish up saying "don't worry about the money I enjoyed it too much". Truth is that I have a good enough relationship with quite a few girls in the clubs now that I meet with them for a drink or dine with them etc outside the club without paying for their time (I'm very happy to pick up the tab). I don't do threesomes to be a star in my own movie (not even "what I did on my holidays" I do them because I like the party type atmosphere in the room. I'm long past being desperate to be overly excited about being able to fondle two girls at once or have them pay me attention simultaneously. But if I've just had a decent win on the roulette I quite like taking two to a room for a party and then after some time selecting one to finish off with. I generally think the quality of sex with two girls is poorer than with one.

Orgasms with clients. Oh for sure they often fake them. I make a point of telling them I'm not really interested in giving them O's unless they are really in need of one or want one. But I find that girls relish Doxy wands, and whilst initially unsure or uneasy. They quickly realise they are a girls best friend (after money). I have had regular offers of "I will give you the session for free if I can keep this! And I defy any woman using one to be able to prevent an orgasm! As for "might ruin the next session" etc. Hmmm not so sure about that. I've had girls asking can they borrow these machines for only 30 minutes in the middle of an evening whilst I'm playing in the casino!

We all spin our own tricks with the girls. What works for some won't for others.

Overall impression of the mongering scene on the CDS last trip was that it has recovered pretty well.

We shall have to beg to differ on your concerns about clubs surviving. The only one (of many) I have seen fall is Glass Palace Malaga. And no shock as it barely ever had punters or decent girls. The others all appear to be enjoying great trade to me and I know three owners now and they are all very optimistic. Let's hope their optimism is right. For the girls, and the guys like me who enjoy this form of mongering.

[Andalus Expat]

.Your final comment about not taking more than one girl is something that really chimed with me. I have often taken 2 girls. Especially in E92 where I can get a good deal on 2 hours. But I really am beginning to think I have just done it to death. Quite apart from the doubled expense. I think it is because I like a bit of a party atmosphere in the room. But the sex is never as good as it is if you concentrate on one girl and she can do the same with you. Some girls have confessed to me they feel awkward having an orgasm in front of another girl unless they really know each other very well. So whilst I won't say I won't do another threesome as I just know I will do, I equally think I will restrict it to make it once every now and then to make it a little special again. It has lost its magic for me (no pun intended!

Couple of things to say about this quote. Firstly, with a putas, unless you know her very well, the only person having sex in the room is you. The other (s) is / are working. Unless the two girls, for some reason of theirs get off on each other, it's theatre. Yep, being worked over by a couple of girls simultaneously can be great fun. Give your fantasies free range. Star in your own porn movie. But don't kid yourself.

The other's orgasms with clients. Generally they don't. Ask any puta willing to give you an honest reply. The reason's not hard to work out if you think about it. To orgasm they have to be sexually aroused. Not just a bit damp around the knicker gusset. All sorts of stuff down there engorges & gets very sensitive. After an orgasm, that can take considerable time to calm down. The next client might not be as considerate as you've been. Clumsy fumbling around & rough penetrative sex can be downright uncomfortable or even painful. Orgasms may make working for the rest of the shift a no-no or she risks making the next shift a torture. Yeah there's always the exceptions. I know a xica would happily bang a football team. Rugby Union. Both teams & the reserves. Three at a time. And orgasm right the way through. It's her fantasy. But she's heavily sub. She gets off on pain. Most women don't.