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[PayForIt]

I'll be in the place myself in a few weeks, but I keep in touch with a couple of girls that work there. She is actually one of the best looking ones in my opinion ' an easy 8/10. Anyway business has been so bad that her and 6 others have left and are now just roaming the streets of Puerto Banus and hanging out in La Habana from 11 pm onwards. They are getting more regular customers and making better money using this method. A couple of them did try Scandalo, but they felt the clientele were bordering on dangerous individuals, so opted out after a week. She says she is moving to Zurich for the winter to work at Afro.

Which girl is this?

[MagicSheep74]

I'll be in the place myself in a few weeks, but I keep in touch with a couple of girls that work there. She is actually one of the best looking ones in my opinion ' an easy 8/10. Anyway business has been so bad that her and 6 others have left and are now just roaming the streets of Puerto Banus and hanging out in La Habana from 11 pm onwards. They are getting more regular customers and making better money using this method. A couple of them did try Scandalo, but they felt the clientele were bordering on dangerous individuals, so opted out after a week. She says she is moving to Zurich for the winter to work at Afro.

Heading into a recession and Milady Palace raises prices to 400 an hour! Was never going to work.

[The Cane]

I had a fabulous night with two Eritreans out of York club in the same-named hotel. It gets slammed as the seedy joint of Dubai but I've never had a bad night in there and strangely whilst I understand some of the guys' reluctance about it (I've seen fist fights around the pool table etc), I've found the girls in there friendly and the service good. Also oddly, you might expect the stunners would prefer to head to the more prestigious Hotel bars / clubs but I have seen (and enjoyed) several 9's and 10's in York. The problem I have found in some of the more upmarket venues in Dubai is that there are a lot of seriously wealthy guys in competition. Cane. I'll turn your question back to you. Notwithstanding this is the CDS. How do prices compare in your beloved Brazil and secondly, I saw your post about them operating in similar fashion to FKKs. Do the girls walk around naked / half naked to attract customers?

Well, I don't want to go on and on about the UAE and Brazil here in this thread. I will just note that I liked hanging out at York too. When I went, it was heavy Ethiopians and Chinese girls with a smattering of Russian Federation and CIS tutes. That said, I pulled a hot Turkish girl out of there. My hotel wasn't far away, and we went back and fucked. She had a little potty mouth too (I liked). Upmarket venues at the time with drop dead gorgeous Ruskie girls (and others) were Premiere and Cavalli. I fucked a blonde hottie from Sevastopol, Crimea I pulled out of Premiere back at my hotel room. Regarding the termas of Brazil, first note that they are only found in Rio. The women are not naked, but strut around in skimpy outfits leaving little to the imagination. Other than that, they function like an FKK in that you change into a robe and secure your things in a locker, and you shower. There are sauna facilities, etc. But some important differences: they are much, much smaller typically, food is not always served but you often can order in, serious "couch time" is still pretty standard, and the Brasiliera still fucks the best! Other than that, just from reading the reports I know Brazil is suffering from the same things that the industry is suffering from all over the world. Lineups have not returned to their former strength pre-pandemic, and there has been price inflation along with a weak Brazilian Real. I hope things are better worldwide a year from now!

[PayForIt]

I believe you about the optics in Dubai. I have seen it with my own eyes. But what about performance? This is what set Germany and Spain (Brazil too) far above Dubai as a mongering destination. More than satisfactory optics with far superior performance (BBBJ, CIM, anal sex, and other kinks). Are you saying that performance in Dubai is now better than the aforementioned countries (I know you can't comment on Brazil)? And is it because things got so much better in Dubai (would be hard for me to believe LOL), or are you saying that it's because standards in Spain and Germany have sunk so low (that would be believable). Also, would appreciate it if you could address my inquiry to you in the FKK Oase thread. Thanks, and carry on (the world lost "grandma" and a most remarkable woman)!

Have replied in the Oase thread re Daniela. You'll know when you read it if she is the same girl. Sounds like.

I've had mixed experiences in Dubai on service. For a bunch of reasons which are not difficult to guess at, I don't post about my experiences on that thread. Most of the guys I have noticed comment on how venues are / etc without a lot of comment on actual names / girls. LE in Dubai has historically been off the scale and getting it wrong can sow horrible results! For sure, there are quite a few "functional" stunning Russians (mainly Red Square / Moscow / Capitol). I've not tried Blu Club but believe it is up market and intend to put that right. I had a fabulous night with two Eritreans out of York club in the same-named hotel. It gets slammed as the seedy joint of Dubai but I've never had a bad night in there and strangely whilst I understand some of the guys' reluctance about it (I've seen fist fights around the pool table etc), I've found the girls in there friendly and the service good. Also oddly, you might expect the stunners would prefer to head to the more prestigious Hotel bars / clubs but I have seen (and enjoyed) several 9's and 10's in York. The problem I have found in some of the more upmarket venues in Dubai is that there are a lot of seriously wealthy guys in competition. They are draped in designer gear head to toe, jewellery very much on show and they have no issue booking tables with several spirt bottles to flash their cash. Even in the threads when guys are seeking recommendations you regularly see the phrase "money is no object". The shake down from this is that the best looking girls sometimes reject other would be suitors knowing that they can catch a bigger fish who might pay over the odds for LT. These guys are not out for ST with one girl. They are happy to take 3 girls LT and "party" even if the girls are all asking 3000/ AED for all night (about 800 euros which coincidentally is the E92 price for all night outside the club. Or was before covid so might have increased. I don't know as I have never taken a girl all night from E92).

I have had one very bad experience in Dubai. Met a very attractive Syrian girl in Broadway. Won't be back as it is a struggle if you don't speak Arabic (and I don't). Got very suspicious when she asked for the cash up front (I obliged) and then started with the scam of "need to make a private phone call". I was convinced she was going to do a runner and asked her to hand the money back if she was going to go outside the room. She was furious. Ok maybe she was upset because I doubted her integrity, but strange how she needed to make the call immediately after getting the cash. If she had not wanted to come with me she should just have refused. But that's not a Dubai related issue. Overall your question is about quality of service and I've found it no better nor worse than anywhere else. There is a lot of competition so the girls want to maximise repeat potential though they all know that Dubai is very much a transit location where one-offs are common. Despite the fabulous optics I don't much like the place to be honest. The lack of any real history / culture does eventually bite (as well as the horrendous humidity! I much prefer the Far East but then it is a long way away from Europe!

On the flip side. I don't believe the quality of service in Spain and / or Germany has declined. Value for money has 100% definitely declined because of very substantial price hikes after the pandemic. I get that the girls had 2 really hard years with little income but so did a lot of people. But it is surprising how little fuss is made of very significant price increased (percentage wise). In 2018 in Scandalos you could go to the room for 160 euros for one hour with 10 euros for the sheets etc. In 2022 there is the odd girl who will go for 200 but most want 250 for that hour and the mamasan wants 30 for sheets / towel / condom. So 280 total. That's nearly a 100% increase in prices in 4 years. E92 has crept up from 150/ hour to 200 so not as bad but then for a long long time I could get two girls to agree 250 each for a guaranteed 2 hours. So 500. This week the same cost me 800. Not double but not far off. In Germany (e. G. Sharks / Oase / Palace / Mainhatten) it's 100/30 minutes though a lot will do 150/ hour. But it used to be 50/30 minutes. Again, doubling the price. In my profession if I made 100% price increases (even over 4 years) I would lost most if not all of my business. Yet many punters say "it's not bad. We've been lucky to have these prices for years". Guys. Get real. That is NOT the way to accept increases. It is quite worrying because if they can get away with a 100% increase in 4 years, why not do another 100% in 4 years from now. Oh for sure we'the all now say "I'm not paying 400/ hour" but it's already not far off that in Miladys and guys are still going there and paying it. Have service levels also gone up 100%? Erm. Not at all. I doubt they have diminished but I think now if you want to come across as in any way cheap / trying to negotiate, you would be likely to get poor service. If you are willing to payforit (pun intended) they'll still perform but as indicated in my previous post. It's quite tough paying 800 for two hours with two girls (however great) when for the same price I could have had (wait for it) about 28 thai girls in my room for one hour! Now there's a thought! I suppose its just not worth making the comparison at the end of the day. Different prices in different parts of the world will always exist. It's just very disappointing that Europe has become pretty expensive in comparison. I know that there will be guys who read this and think "but you can get independents for 100/ hour or less". This is the Club Reports only thread for a reason. Its for guys who like to chose a girl in a club not risk bait and switch when arriving at a door to see that the online stunning 10/10 is in real life a fatty 3/10! I have always accepted paying a premium for the ability to choose a girl from a line up. But the prices are definitely becoming prohibitive.

Cane. I'll turn your question back to you. Notwithstanding this is the CDS. How do prices compare in your beloved Brazil and secondly, I saw your post about them operating in similar fashion to FKKs. Do the girls walk around naked / half naked to attract customers?

[PayForIt]

Thanks for the report.

Did you see nicoletta? If not then you should ask someone to see if she's there or when she'll be back. How was the quality in general?

Nope I didn't see her but I didn't ask. Veronica told me (on whatsapp) she will point her out next time she is in the club and I am there. They are good friends. So I suspect she wasn't there last night.

Quality was reasonable but nothing particularly new.

I've PMd you back re Stephany. She is looking very good indeed.

[The Cane]

I've been lucky enough to be paying a lot less than this in Far East destinations and I'm afraid it does spoil you. For similar money (1200 AED / about 320 euros so a little more) in Dubai you can find an absolutely drop dead stunning 10/10 Russian / Uzbek / Ukrainian / Iranian / Syrian girl for 2-3 hours who would blow away all competition in Scandalos on any night of the week.

I believe you about the optics in Dubai. I have seen it with my own eyes. But what about performance? This is what set Germany and Spain (Brazil too) far above Dubai as a mongering destination. More than satisfactory optics with far superior performance (BBBJ, CIM, anal sex, and other kinks). Are you saying that performance in Dubai is now better than the aforementioned countries (I know you can't comment on Brazil)? And is it because things got so much better in Dubai (would be hard for me to believe LOL), or are you saying that it's because standards in Spain and Germany have sunk so low (that would be believable). Also, would appreciate it if you could address my inquiry to you in the FKK Oase thread. Thanks, and carry on (the world lost "grandma" and a most remarkable woman)!

[Qazwsx5]

Back on CDS for 4 days only. Supposedly business not pleasure but decided had to visit E92 to see what its like on the ground presently.

Arrived 10 pm. Early but plenty of girls. But very very few guys at all at that time.

Many of the old favourites in the house. Maria, Angie, Camilla, Beatrice, Veronica, Monika, the previous Stephany (friend of Julia), Alicia, Kerry etc.

Played some roulette (in part because the club area was literally empty!

Couldn't resist the stunning Stephany. Looked really hot. But as this was a one-off visit had to take my E92 fav Veronica as well and we had a very fun 2 hours. I've reported previously that if you know the girls / are a regular, you can push the prices below 200/ hour if you take longer time. Not now. Even thought the club was dead, with no other punter options for the girls, they stood firm on 200/ hour however long. I think they have had a group discussion and decided they will not break rank.

I've been lucky enough to be paying a lot less than this in Far East destinations and I'm afraid it does spoil you. For similar money (1200 AED / about 320 euros so a little more) in Dubai you can find an absolutely drop dead stunning 10/10 Russian / Uzbek / Ukrainian / Iranian / Syrian girl for 2-3 hours who would blow away all competition in Scandalos on any night of the week. Similarly, in Thailand (the World Capital of mongering many say), the prices are off the scale cheap. Ditto in Vietnam and Cambodia ($50/50 euros hour! For sure the stunners are not the same in these Far Eastern countries but with research (Discord app is amazing for Pattaya / BKK) you get to see who is in the line up without even going to the Gentleman's Clubs / Agogos / Girly Bars. For sure this has always been the case (that other destinations are cheaper), but for some reason in the past 2-3 years, post covid, Europe has become really expensive for p4 p. Even London is now cheaper than Spain and Germany. Whilst it (London) is dire IMHO because mongers are restricted to either escort websites, adult work, or walk ups in Soho where the quality on offer is truly abysmal. Manchester still offers several brothels that the LE are happy with if no drugs are present, but you are choosing from a line up of 5-6 girls only. Still, 100 per hour is good value and at the seedy Piccadilly Club (recently moved) you can have an hour for 70 but the girls all expect customers to be wham bam and in and out in far less than that hour and if you try to book 2 hours they will sigh! 140 is bad business for them (of a night) when they can usually "do" 6 guys in that time. This is again why Dubai is so good. You are not in bed with someone who already had 6 guys that night! The stunner you selected is "fresh" that night!

So sadly, Spain (and Germany) have fallen down my pecking order as options. I'm sure over time the lure of Europe will return.

Back to E92:! The girls said last month every night was really busy but mainly with young Moroccans. Same as Scandalos last year.

The EE girls were complaining that this meant bad business for them. Most of them are slim with nice sexy asses. The Moroccan boys like the big booties! Hence they tend to go for the SA girls and on last nights showing there are not enough of them in E92 now.

Had a quick look in the bar when I came down from the room at about 2 am and the club was significantly busier. Lots of punters and quite a few new faces of girls. Looks to me like E92 is following the Scandalos path of really being a nightclub. In previous years you could go into the club at 10 pm and the options were superb and the vibe good. Now that is still the case but doesn't happen until gone 1 am. For anyone over 50 (like me!) that's a non-starter. Don't want my days trashed by getting to bed at 5 am. Wow that sounds sooooo old!

The managers were laughing about the new legislation and couldn't resist the "we told you so" comments which in fairness were correct. They were nontheless pleased their contingency plan (dancing club!) didn't need to be deployed.

Thanks for the report.

Did you see nicoletta? If not then you should ask someone to see if she's there or when she'll be back. How was the quality in general?

[PayForIt]

Back on CDS for 4 days only. Supposedly business not pleasure but decided had to visit E92 to see what its like on the ground presently.

Arrived 10 pm. Early but plenty of girls. But very very few guys at all at that time.

Many of the old favourites in the house. Maria, Angie, Camilla, Beatrice, Veronica, Monika, the previous Stephany (friend of Julia), Alicia, Kerry etc.

Played some roulette (in part because the club area was literally empty!

Couldn't resist the stunning Stephany. Looked really hot. But as this was a one-off visit had to take my E92 fav Veronica as well and we had a very fun 2 hours. I've reported previously that if you know the girls / are a regular, you can push the prices below 200/ hour if you take longer time. Not now. Even thought the club was dead, with no other punter options for the girls, they stood firm on 200/ hour however long. I think they have had a group discussion and decided they will not break rank.

I've been lucky enough to be paying a lot less than this in Far East destinations and I'm afraid it does spoil you. For similar money (1200 AED / about 320 euros so a little more) in Dubai you can find an absolutely drop dead stunning 10/10 Russian / Uzbek / Ukrainian / Iranian / Syrian girl for 2-3 hours who would blow away all competition in Scandalos on any night of the week. Similarly, in Thailand (the World Capital of mongering many say), the prices are off the scale cheap. Ditto in Vietnam and Cambodia ($50/50 euros hour! For sure the stunners are not the same in these Far Eastern countries but with research (Discord app is amazing for Pattaya / BKK) you get to see who is in the line up without even going to the Gentleman's Clubs / Agogos / Girly Bars. For sure this has always been the case (that other destinations are cheaper), but for some reason in the past 2-3 years, post covid, Europe has become really expensive for p4 p. Even London is now cheaper than Spain and Germany. Whilst it (London) is dire IMHO because mongers are restricted to either escort websites, adult work, or walk ups in Soho where the quality on offer is truly abysmal. Manchester still offers several brothels that the LE are happy with if no drugs are present, but you are choosing from a line up of 5-6 girls only. Still, £100 per hour is good value and at the seedy Piccadilly Club (recently moved) you can have an hour for £70 but the girls all expect customers to be wham bam and in and out in far less than that hour and if you try to book 2 hours they will sigh! £140 is bad business for them (of a night) when they can usually "do" 6 guys in that time. This is again why Dubai is so good. You are not in bed with someone who already had 6 guys that night! The stunner you selected is "fresh" that night!

So sadly, Spain (and Germany) have fallen down my pecking order as options. I'm sure over time the lure of Europe will return.

Back to E92:! The girls said last month every night was really busy but mainly with young Moroccans. Same as Scandalos last year.

The EE girls were complaining that this meant bad business for them. Most of them are slim with nice sexy asses. The Moroccan boys like the big booties! Hence they tend to go for the SA girls and on last nights showing there are not enough of them in E92 now.

Had a quick look in the bar when I came down from the room at about 2 am and the club was significantly busier. Lots of punters and quite a few new faces of girls. Looks to me like E92 is following the Scandalos path of really being a nightclub. In previous years you could go into the club at 10 pm and the options were superb and the vibe good. Now that is still the case but doesn't happen until gone 1 am. For anyone over 50 (like me!) that's a non-starter. Don't want my days trashed by getting to bed at 5 am. Wow that sounds sooooo old!

The managers were laughing about the new legislation and couldn't resist the "we told you so" comments which in fairness were correct. They were nontheless pleased their contingency plan (dancing club!) didn't need to be deployed.

[The Cane]

Now you are again raising question marks about the veracity of another very senior and experienced members of the forum. I've asked you in the past to verify information and not had it. You've mentioned visiting E92 (albeit for about 30 minutes early in the evening) but have never named a single girl. Perhaps before casting aspersions on other senior members you should look nearer to home.

I have been reporting in this and other forums for years and years on destinations all over the globe (most heavily on Brazil, Germany, and Spain), and no need to prove anything to anyone. But I ask again. What is "our friend" who cared not to read about the club scene doing in this thread anyway? Maybe he got lonely hanging out in the other one that we left to him to espouse on the independents? I've literally mongered on every continent on the planet except for Oceania and Antarctica (do they have tutes there), and have written many, many, many reports on my travels. More than I can even recall. If said friend would like to read some of them, I suggest that he use the search function as I'm not linking to squat in order to prove something to him. Not engaging in his petty distractions. Some of the best reports I ever produced were lost when another popular site went down. On this site, he can try looking in Reports of Distinction as some (but clearly not all or even the majority) of my reports can be found there. I don't recall seeing too much from him in any RODs. Ahem!

[Qazwsx5]

Sandra (purple hair) is just a receptionist. Managers are either Juan (white haired Spanish guy) or Cornel. Much younger Romanian. Very nice guy.

Sandra is not wrong. July and August are not good months in Spain. Too hot, too many tourists etc. September will be better and I know already the club believe it will have no "hotel" rooms for punters given the high numbers of girls already. The fear about the clubs closing having gone will also attract and the climate improves.

Yh exactly. The girl behind the desk.

Anyone has visited the estepona side of the coast who could provide some info?

[PayForIt]

I'd certainly welcome reading one of The Cane's reports would back up his opinions. I've been back 300 posts without striking gold. You certainly are an expert on a lot of countries & cities, The Cane.

Do you want to link to any of your reports?

He reported on who he selected at Pigmalion in the report before yours! But additionally I have seen his reports for many years, he knew the same Melissa I did in Scandalos many years ago, and has provided me with some excellent information in PMs. About 6 weeks ago you questioned my integrity / report "if it happened" despite me providing names / times / clubs. I spent some time demolishing the insinuation. I was messaged (kindly) by many in personal messages and whatsapps telling me I need not have responded as senior members "know who is the real deal". Now you are again raising question marks about the veracity of another very senior and experienced members of the forum. I've asked you in the past to verify information and not had it. You've mentioned visiting E92 (albeit for about 30 minutes early in the evening) but have never named a single girl. Perhaps before casting aspersions on other senior members you should look nearer to home.

[Sirioja]

I'm afraid it could have had 10/10's in there but I could not stand that horrible small Smokey lounge. Why they didn't make smokers use that tent outside I will never know. The food was ok, (tiny seating area) and of course the beer was free (fridge in that tented area) but the lounge was terrible. I doubt Globe would appreciate the comparison. At least the roof area at Globe was a decent escape.

At Globe, staff asked if we had wow experience on 2018 , but not anymore when fell down porn level, for 150/30 , when got full GFE with real french kiss at LR for 50/30 . I don t smoke, but visited weekly for years.

[PayForIt]

Can't believe PFI still hasn't been there!

Neither can PFI! But your post hit the nail on the head. Knowing it is so expensive I tend to hit the other options when (rarely) in Madrid. However, I have a plan and expect to be there once before end of October!

[PayForIt]

Busy busy. Lots of noisy young guys from non EU countries, spending money on big fat asses. Easy money as they just cum in 3 seconds (according to the girls) and back to the bar. Not type of atmosphere I enjoy.

But was told by the manager (purple hair woman) that many new girls are arriving in Sept. As according to her Sept. And Oct. Are much better months for mongering as large groups of guys head to the coast to play golf during the day and another type of golf at night.

Make sure that you don't miss it.

Sandra (purple hair) is just a receptionist. Managers are either Juan (white haired Spanish guy) or Cornel. Much younger Romanian. Very nice guy.

Sandra is not wrong. July and August are not good months in Spain. Too hot, too many tourists etc. September will be better and I know already the club believe it will have no "hotel" rooms for punters given the high numbers of girls already. The fear about the clubs closing having gone will also attract and the climate improves.

[PayForIt]

Living Room was in Kaarst, Dusseldorf suburb, not Koln. Best club in Germany on 2016/2017 for girls level for GFE. I called it my little Globe. Had 80 hours with a exceptional Romanian beauty on 7 months. My best ever FKK girl including Globe Zurich.

I'm afraid it could have had 10/10's in there but I could not stand that horrible small Smokey lounge. Why they didn't make smokers use that tent outside I will never know. The food was ok, (tiny seating area) and of course the beer was free (fridge in that tented area) but the lounge was terrible. I doubt Globe would appreciate the comparison. At least the roof area at Globe was a decent escape.