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[Qazwsx5]

Busy busy. Lots of noisy young guys from non EU countries, spending money on big fat asses. Easy money as they just cum in 3 seconds (according to the girls) and back to the bar. Not type of atmosphere I enjoy.

But was told by the manager (purple hair woman) that many new girls are arriving in Sept. As according to her Sept. And Oct. Are much better months for mongering as large groups of guys head to the coast to play golf during the day and another type of golf at night.

Make sure that you don't miss it.

[Andalus Expat]

This, and you say that you haven't even been to an FKK? Look, I care about my safety and comfort too. A lot! I would not be a tourist in any country and / or patronize any kind of business where I didn't have those two things. Seems to me that you've been to Germany looking in all the wrong places, and that's the problem. Cost can't be the issue since you pay more to get less on the CDS the way I see it. Try going to the top FKKs before writing off a whole nation when you haven't even experienced all that the place has to offer. Try it. You might like it! PFI and I sure as hell do LOL! And we're still alive and well, not having gotten mugged, etc. Come on man. Live a little! I'm not even talking about the wild side. You already did that. That would be the RLD LOL! One reason I don't go there (among many) is precisely because I do want to be safe! And yet, you go there to a place that is dirty and unsafe and say you don't feel safe (but of course), then turn around and write off all of Germany when it was you yourself who put yourself in an unsafe / dirty situation when there were other better choices you could have made (FKKs and escorts to name a couple). Come on man! That's just not making any sense and your reasoning is lacking here.

I'd certainly welcome reading one of The Cane's reports would back up his opinions. I've been back 300 posts without striking gold. You certainly are an expert on a lot of countries & cities, The Cane.

Do you want to link to any of your reports?

[The Cane]

Pigmalion in madrid is amazing, its mostly latina, but nothing like fat asses and stuff, all of the are great looking and willing to please. The whole club looks posh and great (a bit like milady) but there are more options and great place to have a drink. Prices like milday more or less.

The location is also great with some great hotels nearby to stay. Its a must. You must visit it once.

I never do incalls. Was tempted once in ibiza but then decided against it. Don't want to have problems.

Pigmalion has some lookers no doubt. I only went there once and never returned though because the price was just too high! Just couldn't justify spending that kind of money when I knew there were plenty of other places around town where I could get what I wanted at much better prices. In safe and clean environs LOL! Can't believe PFI still hasn't been there! I loved the variety of the place. Called over the girl I liked the most and turned out she was Brazilian (I know how to sniff the Brasiliera "buceta" out in a crowd haha). But also talked to girls from South Africa and Spain. I wanted the Brasiliera, but she was just talking stupid money to go back to my hotel with me. So, I left empty-handed that night.

[Sirioja]

Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.

I too want to be safe. But I also want to enjoy experiences and that often involves some degree of risk.

Frankfurt RLD is truly awful. Horribly dirty, and some of those streets running from the hauptbahnof are like a war zone. I would not feel safe mongering in that area at all, but then I never have in the streets of Brussels following immigrant influx. I don't go anymore because of being robbed there once. No violence just clever slight of hand theft. Had I caught the guy there would have been violence! But that is an area to be avoided.

Never mongered in SAmerica at all despite having previously holidayed there prior to getting divorced! Might as well have gone for it! Would truly love to try it but as MS says - long way to go. That said I love Thailand and that's not close either. I actually think that facially SA girls are the best looking. I just really don't like big booties and there are a lot of them in that area of the world from what I see in Scandalos Malaga! When you find a slim and stunning SA girl they are really hard to beat. I am also mildly put off by the SA penchant for drugs - really not my thing and I find it a real turn off. I know you have the option to refuse (I do) but it sort of feels like spoiling the party a bit and I dont like the feeling Im paying for a tute to feed her drug addiction. But hey, for all I know I might be doing that with 99% of the girls I session with even if they dont show it openly. I must get a mongering visit to SA at some point. The danger factor is of course there again. Felt safe in Argentina but not sure I would feel the same on Copacabana!

Qaz expresses concern about LE in Dubai. It is certainly correct that falling foul of the law here is most definitely not worth risk. But attitudes have undoubtedly changed. It is no longer against the law to be in a hotel room with a member of the opposite sex if not married. So that worry has gone. I doubt any of us are disrespectful to anyone or drunk in public. So again, managing the risks is possible. What is a nuisance is that some hotels are green and others red. Research necessary before selection if, like me, you dont want hookers coming to your home. Thats one advantage of Spain and Germany - mongering on the premises in clubs/FKKs instead of having to take them to hotels. I dont do SWs and would not visit a hooker on outcall - again - the danger factor of not knowing what to expect when you get there and horror stories (not only in Spain) of gangsters awaiting the eager punter and rinsing him under threat. What are you going to do - report it to the police?!!

Living Room was in Kaarst, Dusseldorf suburb, not Koln. Best club in Germany on 2016/2017 for girls level for GFE. I called it my little Globe. Had 80 hours with a exceptional Romanian beauty on 7 months. My best ever FKK girl including Globe Zurich.

[Qazwsx5]

Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.

I too want to be safe. But I also want to enjoy experiences and that often involves some degree of risk.

Frankfurt RLD is truly awful. Horribly dirty, and some of those streets running from the hauptbahnof are like a war zone. I would not feel safe mongering in that area at all, but then I never have in the streets of Brussels following immigrant influx. I don't go anymore because of being robbed there once. No violence just clever slight of hand theft. Had I caught the guy there would have been violence! But that is an area to be avoided.

Never mongered in SAmerica at all despite having previously holidayed there prior to getting divorced! Might as well have gone for it! Would truly love to try it but as MS says - long way to go. That said I love Thailand and that's not close either. I actually think that facially SA girls are the best looking. I just really don't like big booties and there are a lot of them in that area of the world from what I see in Scandalos Malaga! When you find a slim and stunning SA girl they are really hard to beat. I am also mildly put off by the SA penchant for drugs - really not my thing and I find it a real turn off. I know you have the option to refuse (I do) but it sort of feels like spoiling the party a bit and I dont like the feeling Im paying for a tute to feed her drug addiction. But hey, for all I know I might be doing that with 99% of the girls I session with even if they dont show it openly. I must get a mongering visit to SA at some point. The danger factor is of course there again. Felt safe in Argentina but not sure I would feel the same on Copacabana!

Qaz expresses concern about LE in Dubai. It is certainly correct that falling foul of the law here is most definitely not worth risk. But attitudes have undoubtedly changed. It is no longer against the law to be in a hotel room with a member of the opposite sex if not married. So that worry has gone. I doubt any of us are disrespectful to anyone or drunk in public. So again, managing the risks is possible. What is a nuisance is that some hotels are green and others red. Research necessary before selection if, like me, you dont want hookers coming to your home. Thats one advantage of Spain and Germany - mongering on the premises in clubs/FKKs instead of having to take them to hotels. I dont do SWs and would not visit a hooker on outcall - again - the danger factor of not knowing what to expect when you get there and horror stories (not only in Spain) of gangsters awaiting the eager punter and rinsing him under threat. What are you going to do - report it to the police?!!

The FKK experience is fairly unique. It is of course correct that the vast majority of the girls are Romanian or at least EE, though it's not difficult to find other nationalities, including Germans (if you try or want them. I think I gave the wrong impression regarding gyms at FKKs. I am only aware of one. At FKK Artemis in Berlin. I wish they all had them! For sure I don't go to an FKK for the gym! It's the other way around! Many years ago in the FKK forums I read a quote from a guy who said that going to FKKs was his total motivation to keep fit. Probably not the right reason but I totally get it. If you don't want to be one of those very fat guys wearing a robe or towel its a real driver! I'm not sure I would be quite as lean if I wasn't regularly visiting FKKs! Too easy to hide flab under clothes. Boy enough girls in clubs do it! I like the fact that sex is not the only activity on offer in an FKK. The ability to have an hour of sex, then head to a gym, or sauna, or sunbathing or swimming or even eating for recovery time, is good, as is the professional massage. MS makes a good point about chain smoking. For years before it closed I would not return to Living Room (Cologne) as it had what I called "the cancer lounge" where it was impossible not to inhale the rancid smoke whilst choosing the girls. Happily, most of the big FKKs now have designated smoking rooms / areas behind glass (as you see in many airports). This means the main areas are smoke free. Far far better.

Interesting comment by MS on Barca. Never really been there to monger but must give it a go. Ditto Pigmalion. Never been but the reports about this premium club in Madrid are good even if prices are reportedly high. The 300 price MS got seems a bargain. I've been threatening to go there for years and never got around to it! I must put that right!

The comments on Dubai are correct and the options are actually increasing. There is indeed diversity but oddly mainly venue related with some clubs favouring Viets and Filipinos whilst others are more Russians and others Uzbeks / Iranians and some of the slightly downmarket venues (but not dangerous and good fun) have quite a few African nations represented! The proliferation of AMS is noticeable though there was a police raid last week with many arrests which were highly publicised.

I always found the diversity in Club Vive Madrid one of its main attractions. I have had sessions with Americans, Brits, Japanese as well as SAs and EEs there. My last visit wasn't so successful but it was covid recovery period last year.

Sounds like you are towards Nueva Andalucia MS. A very nice area with some great restaurants and a good selection of top golf courses (I love playing Las Brisas).

On a final and positive note. Many thanks to Qaz re his confirmation that the feared legislation was all about vote winning and, as I reported when it first was mentioned. The club owners howled laughing and quipped that it would never come to fruition. Whilst they were right I do know that as the issue came closer the early dismissiveness gave way to genuine concern that in fact it could spell real trouble and a need for creativity. Happily, it's gone away, hence the options remain. Let's hope it paves the way for greater options on the CDS which at one point was very much a top mongering destination but has fallen from its previous glory. But then as MS correctly says, that is true of a lot of Europe. Much to the derision of some senior members of the London thread I have reported for years that its options have truly diminished unless you are willing to run the bait and switch escort scene. In fairness, some of the top agencies have combated bait and switch by getting the girls to post selfie pics and videos. Great idea and it's become common for girls to expect a punter to request a short FaceTime or video which will be available for 10 minutes before auto-deleting. At least you get to see what you are really buying then. But the UK is a long way behind other European countries as a mongering destination. Shame as its a great country to visit.

I anticipate getting back to CDS for a mini break soon, but will return East then for European winter. A sure sign of getting older is chasing the climate instead of the girls!

Pigmalion in madrid is amazing, its mostly latina, but nothing like fat asses and stuff, all of the are great looking and willing to please. The whole club looks posh and great (a bit like milady) but there are more options and great place to have a drink. Prices like milday more or less.

The location is also great with some great hotels nearby to stay. Its a must. You must visit it once.

I never do incalls. Was tempted once in ibiza but then decided against it. Don't want to have problems.

[MagicSheep74]

Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.

I anticipate getting back to CDS for a mini break soon, but will return East then for European winter. A sure sign of getting older is chasing the climate instead of the girls!

Great stuff PFI, I think once in my life I will head across to Sao Paulo for a trip and I do really read a lot of very positive things about mongering there. I done Rio De Janeiro many years ago and while the city was incredibly impressive, I not overly so with the women. Although I here there is much more diversity to there appearance in SP.

Definitely give Pygmalion a shot next time you pass through Madrid. I lived in Barcelona 10 years ago for 18 months and Catalan guy put my onto the local forum about girls. And some of the girls it produced were simply stunning, albeit independents. Is it still the same now in Barca or Pygmalion, I have not been for years. So can't comment with complete confidence.

My report on 92, MP, Scandalo, The revamped Casa MASA will follow in 4 weeks when I return to Marbella. Expectations not high, but I always have fun.

Stay safe.

And QAZ, get yourself to Dubai when you get the chance. The United Nations of Muff. Never felt in any danger.

[PayForIt]

Lots of great points by The Cane / Magic Sheep and Qaz.

I too want to be safe. But I also want to enjoy experiences and that often involves some degree of risk.

Frankfurt RLD is truly awful. Horribly dirty, and some of those streets running from the hauptbahnof are like a war zone. I would not feel safe mongering in that area at all, but then I never have in the streets of Brussels following immigrant influx. I don't go anymore because of being robbed there once. No violence just clever slight of hand theft. Had I caught the guy there would have been violence! But that is an area to be avoided.

Never mongered in SAmerica at all despite having previously holidayed there prior to getting divorced! Might as well have gone for it! Would truly love to try it but as MS says - long way to go. That said I love Thailand and that's not close either. I actually think that facially SA girls are the best looking. I just really don't like big booties and there are a lot of them in that area of the world from what I see in Scandalos Malaga! When you find a slim and stunning SA girl they are really hard to beat. I am also mildly put off by the SA penchant for drugs - really not my thing and I find it a real turn off. I know you have the option to refuse (I do) but it sort of feels like spoiling the party a bit and I don’t like the feeling I’m paying for a tute to feed her drug addiction. But hey, for all I know I might be doing that with 99% of the girls I session with even if they don’t show it openly. I must get a mongering visit to SA at some point. The danger factor is of course there again. Felt safe in Argentina but not sure I would feel the same on Copacabana!

Qaz expresses concern about LE in Dubai. It is certainly correct that falling foul of the law here is most definitely not worth risk. But attitudes have undoubtedly changed. It is no longer against the law to be in a hotel room with a member of the opposite sex if not married. So that worry has gone. I doubt any of us are disrespectful to anyone or drunk in public. So again, managing the risks is possible. What is a nuisance is that some hotels are green and others red. Research necessary before selection if, like me, you don’t want hookers coming to your home. That’s one advantage of Spain and Germany - mongering on the premises in clubs/FKKs instead of having to take them to hotels. I don’t do SWs and would not visit a hooker on outcall - again - the danger factor of not knowing what to expect when you get there and horror stories (not only in Spain) of gangsters awaiting the eager punter and rinsing him under threat. What are you going to do - report it to the police?!!

The FKK experience is fairly unique. It is of course correct that the vast majority of the girls are Romanian or at least EE, though it's not difficult to find other nationalities, including Germans (if you try or want them. I think I gave the wrong impression regarding gyms at FKKs. I am only aware of one. At FKK Artemis in Berlin. I wish they all had them! For sure I don't go to an FKK for the gym! It's the other way around! Many years ago in the FKK forums I read a quote from a guy who said that going to FKKs was his total motivation to keep fit. Probably not the right reason but I totally get it. If you don't want to be one of those very fat guys wearing a robe or towel its a real driver! I'm not sure I would be quite as lean if I wasn't regularly visiting FKKs! Too easy to hide flab under clothes. Boy enough girls in clubs do it! I like the fact that sex is not the only activity on offer in an FKK. The ability to have an hour of sex, then head to a gym, or sauna, or sunbathing or swimming or even eating for recovery time, is good, as is the professional massage. MS makes a good point about chain smoking. For years before it closed I would not return to Living Room (Cologne) as it had what I called "the cancer lounge" where it was impossible not to inhale the rancid smoke whilst choosing the girls. Happily, most of the big FKKs now have designated smoking rooms / areas behind glass (as you see in many airports). This means the main areas are smoke free. Far far better.

Interesting comment by MS on Barca. Never really been there to monger but must give it a go. Ditto Pigmalion. Never been but the reports about this premium club in Madrid are good even if prices are reportedly high. The 300 price MS got seems a bargain. I've been threatening to go there for years and never got around to it! I must put that right!

The comments on Dubai are correct and the options are actually increasing. There is indeed diversity but oddly mainly venue related with some clubs favouring Viets and Filipinos whilst others are more Russians and others Uzbeks / Iranians and some of the slightly downmarket venues (but not dangerous and good fun) have quite a few African nations represented! The proliferation of AMS is noticeable though there was a police raid last week with many arrests which were highly publicised.

I always found the diversity in Club Vive Madrid one of its main attractions. I have had sessions with Americans, Brits, Japanese as well as SAs and EEs there. My last visit wasn't so successful but it was covid recovery period last year.

Sounds like you are towards Nueva Andalucia MS. A very nice area with some great restaurants and a good selection of top golf courses (I love playing Las Brisas).

On a final and positive note. Many thanks to Qaz re his confirmation that the feared legislation was all about vote winning and, as I reported when it first was mentioned. The club owners howled laughing and quipped that it would never come to fruition. Whilst they were right I do know that as the issue came closer the early dismissiveness gave way to genuine concern that in fact it could spell real trouble and a need for creativity. Happily, it's gone away, hence the options remain. Let's hope it paves the way for greater options on the CDS which at one point was very much a top mongering destination but has fallen from its previous glory. But then as MS correctly says, that is true of a lot of Europe. Much to the derision of some senior members of the London thread I have reported for years that its options have truly diminished unless you are willing to run the bait and switch escort scene. In fairness, some of the top agencies have combated bait and switch by getting the girls to post selfie pics and videos. Great idea and it's become common for girls to expect a punter to request a short FaceTime or video which will be available for 10 minutes before auto-deleting. At least you get to see what you are really buying then. But the UK is a long way behind other European countries as a mongering destination. Shame as its a great country to visit.

I anticipate getting back to CDS for a mini break soon, but will return East then for European winter. A sure sign of getting older is chasing the climate instead of the girls!

[The Cane]

Dubai is good if you are looking for high end of the market. But I wouldn't dare mongering there as you never know what may happen in these countries, rules can change in 5 seconds there and if you are caught over there then.

I would say that you are right in this about Dubai. But, like so many others, I took a chance and went for it. Stuck to the rules and didn't do shit to draw undue attention to myself. Go to the right places and you got tutes and free flowing alcohol everywhere in a Muslim country (Morocco is good too but UAE better)! There were so, so many hot Ruskie girls in Dubai too. Fucked a pretty blonde one from Crimea in my hotel room. But also Turkish (very dirty) and Filipina (told me an Arab guy had impregnated her) and Turkmen (white-skinned, eastern orthodox pussy)! There were Chinese girls and Ethiopian girls and Arab girls and Iranian girls and pretty tutes from all over the Former Soviet Union. Best overall selection on the planet (and I'm not even listing them all). My God met an incredibly exotic one. Russian father and Chinese mother. Looked Russian but was Chinese in every other way, including speech (was raised 100% by her mother). So exotic! Now all that said, you get more for less money in Brazil and Germany. Hell Thailand and the PI too! Yes, yes I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but it's true! Brazil and Germany offer the best overall value (high-quality sexual services provided for the money expended). This is my view. This is my truth LOL!

[Qazwsx5]

This, and you say that you haven't even been to an FKK? Look, I care about my safety and comfort too. A lot! I would not be a tourist in any country and / or patronize any kind of business where I didn't have those two things. Seems to me that you've been to Germany looking in all the wrong places, and that's the problem. Cost can't be the issue since you pay more to get less on the CDS the way I see it. Try going to the top FKKs before writing off a whole nation when you haven't even experienced all that the place has to offer. Try it. You might like it! PFI and I sure as hell do LOL! And we're still alive and well, not having gotten mugged, etc. Come on man. Live a little! I'm not even talking about the wild side. You already did that. That would be the RLD LOL! One reason I don't go there (among many) is precisely because I do want to be safe! And yet, you go there to a place that is dirty and unsafe and say you don't feel safe (but of course), then turn around and write off all of Germany when it was you yourself who put yourself in an unsafe / dirty situation when there were other better choices you could have made (FKKs and escorts to name a couple). Come on man! That's just not making any sense and your reasoning is lacking here.

I will possibly visit FKK next time in Germany. My experience was about normal brothels and night clubs. It was my first time in frankfurt so didn't expect to see the RLD to be that bad, headed back to the hotel after 5 minutes walking there.

Dubai is good if you are looking for high end of the market. But I wouldn't dare mongering there as you never know what may happen in these countries, rules can change in 5 seconds there and if you are caught over there then.

[Sirioja]

I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.

Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.

I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.

Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.

Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.

Spain is far better country than Germany for holidays, foods, sea, mountains. So many Germans love Spain. But for paid sex and when You need real french kiss like me, I m pretty sure Germany is easier and for much less expensive, even with German girls. I have one who is a busy superstar, so lovely, for 200/120 full GFE, squirting, she proposed me on our discovery, from my way for DATY. At Sharks which is one the biggest club in Germany, south Frankfurt, mostly Balkanians on late night, I was many times the only Caucasian at closing at 5 am and on parking, and never had any problem. I would worry more at Paradise Junquera with many low level French, when I m French, when Figueras, Ampuriabrava and Rosas are beautiful. What I love in Germany are autobahns, even can also push in Spain like in Italy.

[The Cane]

I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria.

This, and you say that you haven't even been to an FKK? Look, I care about my safety and comfort too. A lot! I would not be a tourist in any country and / or patronize any kind of business where I didn't have those two things. Seems to me that you've been to Germany looking in all the wrong places, and that's the problem. Cost can't be the issue since you pay more to get less on the CDS the way I see it. Try going to the top FKKs before writing off a whole nation when you haven't even experienced all that the place has to offer. Try it. You might like it! PFI and I sure as hell do LOL! And we're still alive and well, not having gotten mugged, etc. Come on man. Live a little! I'm not even talking about the wild side. You already did that. That would be the RLD LOL! One reason I don't go there (among many) is precisely because I do want to be safe! And yet, you go there to a place that is dirty and unsafe and say you don't feel safe (but of course), then turn around and write off all of Germany when it was you yourself who put yourself in an unsafe / dirty situation when there were other better choices you could have made (FKKs and escorts to name a couple). Come on man! That's just not making any sense and your reasoning is lacking here.

[MagicSheep74]

I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.

Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.

I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.

Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.

Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.

If I had unlimited money to spend, and unlimited time to spend it. Dubai is currently the number 1 place in the world in my opinion.

I never said Germany was miserable and boring. I said Frankfurt was, I really quite enjoyed Berlin, but not for women.

I think we can all agree the overall standard in Europe has dropped in clubs. There is various reasons for this, that I can't really be arsed going into.

The FKK format works really well, but its just not my scene. Men in robes, 99% Romanians, Wellness etc. I already have a gym membership, so I am not there for that.

In my time in Spanish clubs and villas I've sampled. Brazilians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Cubans, Mexicans, Russians, Moldovans, Lebanese, Ukrainians, Latvians, Dominicans, and of course a 1000 Romanians. This is not happening in FKK world.

Puerto Banus is not like the RLD of Frankfurt, even though it does have a dodgy area. I don't live in an apartment in ' Full Cooked English Breakfast town. I live in a villa north of Puerto Banus overlooking the Mediterranean.

My reports on the current quality in the Costa Del Sol will follow in 4 weeks when I return. I expect the overall quality will have dropped, so my expectations will not be high. Although I will find superior women than is currently in the FKKs based on all the disappointed reports I am reading from Germany on a weekly basis.

Peace out.

[Qazwsx5]

Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).

Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).

E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain!

I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.

I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.

For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.

I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.

Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎
There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!

Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!

I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.

Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.

I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.

Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.

Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.

[MagicSheep74]

Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).

Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).

E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain

I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.

I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.

For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.

I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.

Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso! But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!

Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!

No worries agree to disagree. I would personally never go back to an FKK. The girls that there are from one country and the quality is low. But you guys fill you boots, using the gym with a hard on and eating poor food has never been much of a draw to me.

Dubai is the number one destination in the world for mongering as of 2022. Fairly large concentration of money in a relatively small area. So that's that.

Scandalo in Brazil sounds tempting, but with a 22 hour round flight to fuck a few Brazilians. Na.

I find a way to find, shag, pay, date some very hot women in Marbella. Including MP, Villa, Seeking Arrangements.

Of late nowhere is reporting amazing quality. Zurich, Apro, Frankfurt, Malaga, - Dubai has weathered the storm and seeking arrangements is where the 9/10 are elsewhere. Its time consuming, but can produce amazing results.

If you really know you way around Barcelona, that can really produce some amazing results.

The 3 girls I took back to the hotel from Pigmalion 300/2 hours we clear stunners.

So if its a competition - 1. Dubai wins, but don't expect or hope for CIM and Anal.

2. Spain second. If you really know how to navigate the scene, that is definitely more variety than FKK's.

3. Germany. Chain smoking Romanians, the sight of other naked men and big sausages.

Enjoy MS.

[The Cane]

Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎 As ever, to each their own!

Bravo! Bravo! A standing ovation for this thorough and most dispositive essay on the matter. Could not have said it better myself. And definitely was not going to invest the time to do so LOL! All I can add is that I hope that someway and somehow that mongering in Spain will return to a value equilibrium that works for me. I used to have it right up there with Germany and couldn't wait to go to places in Madrid like Estark, Factory Air, Flowers Park, and Vive. Scandalo and E92 on the CDS were good too. I also had memorable times in Barcelona and even in La Jonquera (The Cane in Spain)! But alas no longer! Not for me. And as you noted in another post, I was about a couple of years ahead of you in arriving at this position on mongering in Spain. At least it seems that the threat from that proposed infernal law has been blunted. For now.