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[PayForIt]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).

Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).

E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain!

I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.

I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.

For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.

I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.

Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎
There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!

Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!

[The Cane]

If you want to get maximum out of your money then you should head to Colombia, Brazil and etc. But then you won't have the variety, weather, safety and other stuff that spain offers.

In Brazil you have weather and "other stuff" that Spain provides as well. Food is even better if you ask me. And at the end of the day, I don't care about variety since for me the Brasiliera is head and shoulders above the rest. If I had to fuck nothing but Brazilian girls for rest of my life, that wouldn't upset me one iota (they come in many shades and ethnicities too). Besides, if variety is your high priority, then even Spain can't touch Dubai in this category. And as for safety? It's all overblown regarding Brazil. If it wasn't safe, then I wouldn't go there! But hey, people can believe what they want to believe (and will). I don't need more people going to my favorite mongering destination messing it up anyway LOL!

[Qazwsx5]

By the way, the new law (the one everyone was talking about recently) has finally been passed, but the articles affecting night clubs, brothels and prostitutions in general were left out, so basically nothings changed.

[Qazwsx5]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

Exactly, I understand what cane says, spain is expensive for mongering (in recent years not just mongering but pretty much everything has become expensive) but that's what it is, if you want to get maximum out of your money then you should head to Colombia, Brazil and etc. But then you won't have the variety, weather, safety and other stuff that spain offers.

I like Germany but as magic says, most of the time weathers bad, the clubs are full of immigrants (usually not good ones) and quite boring cities which are worth visiting just for a day or two.

About CIM my personal experience is that SA are more willing to provide than beautiful EE. But again that depends on what you consider a must. Magic and PFI and I want the most beautiful ones, so obviously these are less likely to provide CIM and anal because they have enough clinets, don't need to do things that are not to their likings. The ugly ones need clients and are willing to give whatever the client wants just to get the cash. I believe this is the same everywhere.

[The Cane]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

I get all that (been all over Spain many times). But for me, it's not an either / or proposition. Meaning get great optics but mediocre service or vice versa. I want it all LOL! I want stellar optics and the particular services I desire. And all at a favorable price. Your answer (thanks for taking the time to answer my specific question after the mini lecture) kind of lets me know that things are still in the same place in Spain when I left it (if not even worse for value), and why I have removed Spain from my list. When I go on a mongering trip I'm going first and foremost to fuck (PSE preferred). If it's good weather and better food in nice environs that I want, then I'll take another kind of vacation other than a mongering one to somewhere else other than Germany. Hey, like Brazil where I can still fuck like a king! Talk about having it all! Hahaha!

[MagicSheep74]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in their mouth for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

It just dawned on me that I never answered the question. So the times I have CIM or performed Anal in the clubs in Spain, its just happened and there was never been an additional charge. I will say though, that these additional services are not necessary to me. I am looking for pure Optics, the best looking looking girl I can find. I would prefer to have sex with a really beautiful girl that I will remember for years after, rather than searching for an average looking Romanian that takes it up the ass.

Maybe Qaz has a different experience.

[MagicSheep74]

And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

[Sirioja]

And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?

Very rare for real french kissing? When I get and BBBJ, DATY, for 50/30 in Germany.

[The Cane]

Scandalo Friday night at round 22:00 pm, quite busy, about 20 girls and same number of guys, quality very good, about 6,7 I would consider 7 or 8. Girls didn't approach, at midnight it was a lot busier (actually many local dudes, and many new girls came, most were asking 150 e /30 min but most of them were fine with 120 (a few great looking ones wanted 150 + a drink, no wonder why, there were enough guys there willing to take a few of them up to the room for a few hours + buying them drinks).

Estark, great vibe but on weekends too busy for me, 90-100 girls working at present.

Small villas and private clubs are paying 50 euros commissions to taxis for taking guys there. It seems that the business is good.

And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?

[Qazwsx5]

Scandalo Friday night at round 22:00 pm, quite busy, about 20 girls and same number of guys, quality very good, about 6,7 I would consider 7 or 8. Girls didn't approach, at midnight it was a lot busier (actually many local dudes, and many new girls came, most were asking 150 e /30 min but most of them were fine with 120 (a few great looking ones wanted 150 + a drink, no wonder why, there were enough guys there willing to take a few of them up to the room for a few hours + buying them drinks).

Estark, great vibe but on weekends too busy for me, 90-100 girls working at present.

Small villas and private clubs are paying 50 euros commissions to taxis for taking guys there. It seems that the business is good.

[Andalus Expat]

Of course, most of the girls don't like them, but most of these guys (not all) pay for 30 minutes or 60 minutes because they are here on holidays and don't have anything like this in their own countries. But definitely I go with the ones I know from before during the summer months.

Milday had a much better vibe and no sign of these guys, very high class. But of course that's why its much more expensive. Have you visited milady this summer?

Not since Covidpanic reared its ugly head. No reason. I don't go to clubs to talk with girls. If I wanted sex I wouldn't go to a club. But it was always a useful place to take visiting mates. How I first got taken there. We haven't seen that many visitors, have we? Most of the people I know with that sort of spending power have been going to Portugal or other destinations.

But I think I'll make a point of dropping in there for a drink, next time it's convenient. See how it's functioning for future reference. It's the one place I hope survives the up-coming legislation. Be a shame to lose it.

In passing, the Circus Bar at Elviria (Calle Guatemala) seems to be dark. Does anyone know if it ever reopened? Despite its brief existence it was a good idea. Not so much a club as a bar with girls. Bar prices were reasonable & the girls didn't harass. All very relaxed & unpressured. I suppose its one failing was the 'take your life in your hands' process of getting back onto the carretera after departing, out of a small slip road near a bend. One needed a car with serious acceleration.

[Qazwsx5]

I didn't get the impression it was good for the girls. They were largely ignoring the Sons of the Desert. The Romanian xica I chatted with briefly was scathing about them.

It does seem to be a general thing with the girls here. Marroquies get rated slightly above the African lookie-men pester you on the beach. For some reason Colombians are down there as well.

"Good for the girls, easy targets" It's basically why no experienced punter goes prospecting for new talent in July & August. Those two months bring the wet-behind-the-ears tourists & the chancer girls prey on them. It's too much trouble sorting the wheat from the chaff. Stick with the ones that you know.

Of course, most of the girls don't like them, but most of these guys (not all) pay for 30 minutes or 60 minutes because they are here on holidays and don't have anything like this in their own countries. But definitely I go with the ones I know from before during the summer months.

Milday had a much better vibe and no sign of these guys, very high class. But of course that's why its much more expensive. Have you visited milady this summer?

[Andalus Expat]

Yes, exactly. I think no guy was actually interested in doing 30 minutes there (I was tho) so I think none of the girls was going to accept it (but maybe because its summer and they have clients) . She said 350 e an hour as she realized that I was not a tourist but still many guys buying them drinks and stuff so don't think guys going there actually mind paying 100 e more or less.

I also dropped into estark the other day and as you said many noisy guys from other countries. But it was good for the girls, easy targets. But not so much for me, didn't like the vibe and left even tho there were some nice ones around.

I didn't get the impression it was good for the girls. They were largely ignoring the Sons of the Desert. The Romanian xica I chatted with briefly was scathing about them.

It does seem to be a general thing with the girls here. Marroquies get rated slightly above the African lookie-men pester you on the beach. For some reason Colombians are down there as well.

"Good for the girls, easy targets" It's basically why no experienced punter goes prospecting for new talent in July & August. Those two months bring the wet-behind-the-ears tourists & the chancer girls prey on them. It's too much trouble sorting the wheat from the chaff. Stick with the ones that you know.

[Qazwsx5]

I hadn't realized they'd even offered half hours in Milady's. When did that start? Always seems like an insult to a good woman, to me. What can you do in half an hour? Why not just spend half an hour with a box of tissues & Xhamster?

Milady's is the only club on the CDS I've enjoyed going to, albeit at previous pricing. 400? I dropped into Estark in the early hours of Thursday last. The popular language seemed to be Arabic. "The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, " It is indeed class. And they don't clip you with demands for sheets or room fees. I don't suppose they had an option, if they were going to preserve their differential. Otherwise, it'd turn into Scandalos & they'd lose their quality clientele. It's the other club prices are outrageous. Compared, Milady's is still good value for money.

Yes, exactly. I think no guy was actually interested in doing 30 minutes there (I was tho) so I think none of the girls was going to accept it (but maybe because its summer and they have clients) . She said 350 e an hour as she realized that I was not a tourist but still many guys buying them drinks and stuff so don't think guys going there actually mind paying 100 e more or less.

I also dropped into estark the other day and as you said many noisy guys from other countries. But it was good for the girls, easy targets. But not so much for me, didn't like the vibe and left even tho there were some nice ones around.

[The Cane]

Milady's is the only club on the CDS I've enjoyed going to, albeit at previous pricing. 400? I dropped into Estark in the early hours of Thursday last. The popular language seemed to be Arabic. "The place, the rooms, the staff etc are all top quality, " It is indeed class. And they don't clip you with demands for sheets or room fees. I don't suppose they had an option, if they were going to preserve their differential. Otherwise, it'd turn into Scandalos & they'd lose their quality clientele. It's the other club prices are outrageous. Compared, Milady's is still good value for money.

Paying 400 euros for an hour session for the typical sex girls want to deliver in Spain (no CIM, CBJ, covered sex, no anal, no COF, etc.) absolutely does not represent value for that amount of money. And your biases are shining through if you think it does. Hell, that's even too much to pay in Germany where performance from the girls is overall better, delivering better value for the money. I mean this is just ridiculous pricing for Spain. Poor value! From bad to worse!