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[The Cane]

I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria.

This, and you say that you haven't even been to an FKK? Look, I care about my safety and comfort too. A lot! I would not be a tourist in any country and / or patronize any kind of business where I didn't have those two things. Seems to me that you've been to Germany looking in all the wrong places, and that's the problem. Cost can't be the issue since you pay more to get less on the CDS the way I see it. Try going to the top FKKs before writing off a whole nation when you haven't even experienced all that the place has to offer. Try it. You might like it! PFI and I sure as hell do LOL! And we're still alive and well, not having gotten mugged, etc. Come on man. Live a little! I'm not even talking about the wild side. You already did that. That would be the RLD LOL! One reason I don't go there (among many) is precisely because I do want to be safe! And yet, you go there to a place that is dirty and unsafe and say you don't feel safe (but of course), then turn around and write off all of Germany when it was you yourself who put yourself in an unsafe / dirty situation when there were other better choices you could have made (FKKs and escorts to name a couple). Come on man! That's just not making any sense and your reasoning is lacking here.

[MagicSheep74]

I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.

Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.

I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.

Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.

Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.

If I had unlimited money to spend, and unlimited time to spend it. Dubai is currently the number 1 place in the world in my opinion.

I never said Germany was miserable and boring. I said Frankfurt was, I really quite enjoyed Berlin, but not for women.

I think we can all agree the overall standard in Europe has dropped in clubs. There is various reasons for this, that I can't really be arsed going into.

The FKK format works really well, but its just not my scene. Men in robes, 99% Romanians, Wellness etc. I already have a gym membership, so I am not there for that.

In my time in Spanish clubs and villas I've sampled. Brazilians, Colombians, Venezuelans, Cubans, Mexicans, Russians, Moldovans, Lebanese, Ukrainians, Latvians, Dominicans, and of course a 1000 Romanians. This is not happening in FKK world.

Puerto Banus is not like the RLD of Frankfurt, even though it does have a dodgy area. I don't live in an apartment in ' Full Cooked English Breakfast town. I live in a villa north of Puerto Banus overlooking the Mediterranean.

My reports on the current quality in the Costa Del Sol will follow in 4 weeks when I return. I expect the overall quality will have dropped, so my expectations will not be high. Although I will find superior women than is currently in the FKKs based on all the disappointed reports I am reading from Germany on a weekly basis.

Peace out.

[Qazwsx5]

Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).

Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).

E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain!

I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.

I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.

For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.

I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.

Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎
There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!

Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!

I said that I actually like Germany, the countryside is beautiful, cities are fine, Berlin being my favorite in Germany but after exploring Berlin for 2,3 days then I start to get bored because there is not so much to see or do, that never happens in cities like Barcelona, Madrid or even Sevilla. Thats why many germans head to spain for their vacations, good food, good weather, warm people and lots of clubs and bars. Spain is possibly the best travel destination.

Mongering is good in Germany but the biggest problem is the open door policy of Germany. Tbh in Frankfurt and Dusseldorf (the only german cities I tried mongering) I didn't feel safe at all. RLD in frankfurt is just horrible, extremely dirty and full of criminals from other countries, it just doesn't feel like europe. Inside the clubs, same again full of immigrants trying to mug you. Dusseldorf pretty much the same, fighting outside its biggest club, pretty scary.

I haven't been to FKK so can't comment on that but I'm sure many immigrants head to those too. For me safety is the most important thing, I want to feel relaxed when in a club, unfortunately I didn't feel that way in Germany, Austria. Switzerland was fine for mongering, I didn't have to worry for my wallet but as magic says there was no variety and very cold girls.

Also as you correctly said scandalo is full of SA but there are many countries in south America, so there are many girls from different areas of SA, all of them different.

Dubai girls are very good, mostly high end but I know a dozen of them who work on CDS during the summer and go there after Sept.

[MagicSheep74]

Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).

Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).

E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain

I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.

I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.

For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.

I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.

Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso! But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!

Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!

No worries agree to disagree. I would personally never go back to an FKK. The girls that there are from one country and the quality is low. But you guys fill you boots, using the gym with a hard on and eating poor food has never been much of a draw to me.

Dubai is the number one destination in the world for mongering as of 2022. Fairly large concentration of money in a relatively small area. So that's that.

Scandalo in Brazil sounds tempting, but with a 22 hour round flight to fuck a few Brazilians. Na.

I find a way to find, shag, pay, date some very hot women in Marbella. Including MP, Villa, Seeking Arrangements.

Of late nowhere is reporting amazing quality. Zurich, Apro, Frankfurt, Malaga, - Dubai has weathered the storm and seeking arrangements is where the 9/10 are elsewhere. Its time consuming, but can produce amazing results.

If you really know you way around Barcelona, that can really produce some amazing results.

The 3 girls I took back to the hotel from Pigmalion 300/2 hours we clear stunners.

So if its a competition - 1. Dubai wins, but don't expect or hope for CIM and Anal.

2. Spain second. If you really know how to navigate the scene, that is definitely more variety than FKK's.

3. Germany. Chain smoking Romanians, the sight of other naked men and big sausages.

Enjoy MS.

[The Cane]

Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎 As ever, to each their own!

Bravo! Bravo! A standing ovation for this thorough and most dispositive essay on the matter. Could not have said it better myself. And definitely was not going to invest the time to do so LOL! All I can add is that I hope that someway and somehow that mongering in Spain will return to a value equilibrium that works for me. I used to have it right up there with Germany and couldn't wait to go to places in Madrid like Estark, Factory Air, Flowers Park, and Vive. Scandalo and E92 on the CDS were good too. I also had memorable times in Barcelona and even in La Jonquera (The Cane in Spain)! But alas no longer! Not for me. And as you noted in another post, I was about a couple of years ahead of you in arriving at this position on mongering in Spain. At least it seems that the threat from that proposed infernal law has been blunted. For now.

[PayForIt]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

Unusual for me to disagree with your (excellent) posts, but for once I do. I visit Germany usually four or five times per year as well as being in Spain for maybe 5 months every year (though that is decreasing and am spending more time in Dubai and Far East as time moves on).

Some of the comments are a little too general and represent the past not the present. For example, Scandalos, for the past 2 years, has less variety. It is now 99% South American girls mainly from Columbia. There are only 3 EE girls now registered at the club and two of them (Melthi gym body, and Ana. Marilyn Monroe lookalike) barely ever work in there now. Anna (blonde with glasses) still does. By contrast, in E92 you will find the said variety you mention. I also agree you find the odd stunner at Scandalos (more frequently than at E92 but not always the case).

E92 is still predominantly EE and there are many gypsy girls working there. Doesn't bother me in the slightest. If they are pretty and fun I really don't care. Many of them are both. There is no huge difference in quality of girls between E92 (my preferred club on CDS) and Frankfurt FKKs. It is cyclical. On occasions, FKK Sharks, Oase, World, Mainhattan and Palace have had real stunners. None of them ever a match for the incredible blonde Melissa at Scandalos in 2008-2017 but nevertheless some really breathtakingly attractive women who genuinely have a queue waiting even if that means a 2 hour wait. You don't see that much in Spain!

I agree that CIM is negotiable downstairs in Spain, but CIM, BBBJ and DFK (if either are your thing) are far more readily provided in Germany than in Spain. For sure, if you get to know a girl in the CDS clubs, and have had several sessions, all become very much available. And at no extra charge. Most girls in Spain will do BBBJ provided the hygiene level is good but some will flat out refuse. In Germany all of these extras (and others) are available from nearly all of the girls. Indeed, until the BBBJ silly law change in Germany in July 2017, DFK and BBBJ were considered part of "standard" service for 50 euros /30 minutes. Only when that law came in did girls start upselling BBBJ in Frankfurt and Berlin. In FKK Artemis it is now standard 20 extra for BBBJ for every girl and has been since 2018. It has always been an extra in Bavarian clubs and often also the case in Hamburg (FKK Atmos / Harmony / Babylon). So for guys wanting a guarantee of these services Germany is better albeit for extra money.

I think a generalisation that the market in Germany is saturated with gypsies is not correct. There are plenty, but not really more so than in E92. Moreover, to say the general consensus is that there are not many pretty girls is really very wide of the mark. I was there 2 months ago. The options were excellent even outside of FKKs. I found choosing in the Laierkausten laufhaus in Munich (far better than FKK Sunshine) very difficult indeed because the options were really quite exceptional with several 9's. All of them would have outshone anyone I have seen in Scandalos in the past 2 years. Every one of them available for 200/ hour (which is less than in Scandalos). Ditto one excellent Saturday in FKK Oase. Soaked up the sun surrounded by many beauties for an entire afternoon, some nice BBQ, games, swimming with several naked ladies and some really good options. At Palace there is the unmistakable Jennifer who provides truly fabulous service. Some other gems and there is a new crop of thin, sexy brunettes at Mainhattan. In Aca Gold, not my favourite club and only visited once but plenty of decent options for e-euros /30 minutes. I didn't see many gypsies. The party atmosphere in Samya (Cologne) was fabulous. The only similar experience was in FKK Oceans (Dusseldorf) which has become a club much like Scandalos without the quality of line up.

For me, the overall FKK experience is far better than mongering on the CDS. A days mongering in a good FKK, good food, pool, sauna, steam, gym (Artemis), professional massage, to aid recovery in between multiple sessions, is a better total experience than in a Spanish club.

I also think a general brandishing of German cities (Qaz extended your critique of "boring" Frankfurt to others) is a little unfair. Berlin beats Malaga for interest every day of the week. Dresden is small but very interesting. Munich is my favourite city in Europe after Rome, and Hamburg is classy and interesting if you ignore the Reep. You are certainly correct that FRA is boring and indeed the climate is unquestionably better on CDS. Spain as a country, with its culture, food, climate etc is indeed more interesting.

Only my 2 cents but the notion that all of Germany is boring is inaccurate. On the CDS, Malaga is a nice city, Estepona a beautiful town, but Puerto Banus now resembles the RLD of Frankfurt, is a dump, dangerous, and I'm afraid the likes of Torremolinos, Fuengirola, Benalmadena (all mirror Blackpool in the sun) are far less attractive to visit than Cologne, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Berlin, Munich, Dresden or Hamburg. A train journey mid Germany along the Rhine between clubs is stunningly beautiful. More so than the A7/ N340 any day. Despite this, I do love Spain, like its food, language and climate, but as a mongering destination I am more with The Cane. Its had its best days. Prices have gone crazy and value for money is hard to find in the clubs. Cue A Expat and his allegedly stunning independents who provide the best sex for a can of coke, a bed and a bocadillo jamon why queso!🥴🤭 But in truth for those mongers who want to select from a line up without the awful villa parada, it's become quite expensive. Recent reports of 350 or even 400/ hour in Miladys. Crazy. 👎
There are still deals to be had both in E92 and Scandalos. German FKKs do have some variety. But not as much as in Spain so your overall point is not entirely unfair in that regard, though a generalisation that most girls in German clubs are not pretty is not my experience. And certainly not in the past year. I had one night recently when I was so disappointed in the line up at Scandalos that I jumped an expensive cab to E92 for the better options (and got slaughtered for spending the money to do that!).
So the options in Scandalos are not always that great. In fairness I did end up staying next door at Malaga Nostrum, so returned and had a good session when the line up improved. But it was then past 2 am! In Germany the daytime line ups can be good, and if not, it changes into the evening line up so a whole new batch to choose from after dinner!

Both have their pluses and minuses. When I mentioned cyclical I meant quality of line up. It fluctuates anywhere. In Germany some clubs (Sharks) have had exceptional years, then fade, then revive - or not. Ditto in Spain. There was a time in Scandalos when it was far more than the odd 9/10 and even some 10/10's. Those days, for me, appear to have gone for now. Maybe they will return. I honestly don't think there is an awful lot to choose between Spain and Germany but if I had to pick, my preference is Germany. All that said, I have to say that neither have the stunners that are in Dubai! Some of the Uzbeks and Russians are truly 10's. More expensive, but the quality (and the diversity) is far greater as it is currently in vogue / the place to be. Too hot, strict rules, humid, not a lot to see (Deira has its qualities) but for mongering. Excellent. As ever, to each their own!

[The Cane]

If you want to get maximum out of your money then you should head to Colombia, Brazil and etc. But then you won't have the variety, weather, safety and other stuff that spain offers.

In Brazil you have weather and "other stuff" that Spain provides as well. Food is even better if you ask me. And at the end of the day, I don't care about variety since for me the Brasiliera is head and shoulders above the rest. If I had to fuck nothing but Brazilian girls for rest of my life, that wouldn't upset me one iota (they come in many shades and ethnicities too). Besides, if variety is your high priority, then even Spain can't touch Dubai in this category. And as for safety? It's all overblown regarding Brazil. If it wasn't safe, then I wouldn't go there! But hey, people can believe what they want to believe (and will). I don't need more people going to my favorite mongering destination messing it up anyway LOL!

[Qazwsx5]

By the way, the new law (the one everyone was talking about recently) has finally been passed, but the articles affecting night clubs, brothels and prostitutions in general were left out, so basically nothings changed.

[Qazwsx5]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

Exactly, I understand what cane says, spain is expensive for mongering (in recent years not just mongering but pretty much everything has become expensive) but that's what it is, if you want to get maximum out of your money then you should head to Colombia, Brazil and etc. But then you won't have the variety, weather, safety and other stuff that spain offers.

I like Germany but as magic says, most of the time weathers bad, the clubs are full of immigrants (usually not good ones) and quite boring cities which are worth visiting just for a day or two.

About CIM my personal experience is that SA are more willing to provide than beautiful EE. But again that depends on what you consider a must. Magic and PFI and I want the most beautiful ones, so obviously these are less likely to provide CIM and anal because they have enough clinets, don't need to do things that are not to their likings. The ugly ones need clients and are willing to give whatever the client wants just to get the cash. I believe this is the same everywhere.

[The Cane]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

I get all that (been all over Spain many times). But for me, it's not an either / or proposition. Meaning get great optics but mediocre service or vice versa. I want it all LOL! I want stellar optics and the particular services I desire. And all at a favorable price. Your answer (thanks for taking the time to answer my specific question after the mini lecture) kind of lets me know that things are still in the same place in Spain when I left it (if not even worse for value), and why I have removed Spain from my list. When I go on a mongering trip I'm going first and foremost to fuck (PSE preferred). If it's good weather and better food in nice environs that I want, then I'll take another kind of vacation other than a mongering one to somewhere else other than Germany. Hey, like Brazil where I can still fuck like a king! Talk about having it all! Hahaha!

[MagicSheep74]

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in their mouth for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

It just dawned on me that I never answered the question. So the times I have CIM or performed Anal in the clubs in Spain, its just happened and there was never been an additional charge. I will say though, that these additional services are not necessary to me. I am looking for pure Optics, the best looking looking girl I can find. I would prefer to have sex with a really beautiful girl that I will remember for years after, rather than searching for an average looking Romanian that takes it up the ass.

Maybe Qaz has a different experience.

[MagicSheep74]

And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?

What you will get in Scandalo / Estark 92 is variety! Brazilians / Colombians / Domincans / Cubans / Venezuelans / Eastern Europeans and the occasional Spanish girl. The benefit of being on the Costa Del Sol, and if CIM is a deal breaker it can be negotiated downstairs. Finally you can find the occasional stunner 9/10.

What you'll get is Frankfurt is a miserable and boring city, clubs full of Romanians and an entry fee. The general consensus is that none are very good looking and the market has been saturated by gypsies that will let you Cum in you month for 150.

I went several times to Germany before it was crap, and I still think overall that Spain is better. Better country to holiday, better fun and more variety of chicas.

[Sirioja]

And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?

Very rare for real french kissing? When I get and BBBJ, DATY, for 50/30 in Germany.

[The Cane]

Scandalo Friday night at round 22:00 pm, quite busy, about 20 girls and same number of guys, quality very good, about 6,7 I would consider 7 or 8. Girls didn't approach, at midnight it was a lot busier (actually many local dudes, and many new girls came, most were asking 150 e /30 min but most of them were fine with 120 (a few great looking ones wanted 150 + a drink, no wonder why, there were enough guys there willing to take a few of them up to the room for a few hours + buying them drinks).

Estark, great vibe but on weekends too busy for me, 90-100 girls working at present.

Small villas and private clubs are paying 50 euros commissions to taxis for taking guys there. It seems that the business is good.

And what are you getting for the price of 150/30 pray tell? In Germany that will generally get you 30 minutes of straight sex with BBBJ / CIM. What will I get for that in Malaga, Spain at Scandalo?

[Qazwsx5]

Scandalo Friday night at round 22:00 pm, quite busy, about 20 girls and same number of guys, quality very good, about 6,7 I would consider 7 or 8. Girls didn't approach, at midnight it was a lot busier (actually many local dudes, and many new girls came, most were asking 150 e /30 min but most of them were fine with 120 (a few great looking ones wanted 150 + a drink, no wonder why, there were enough guys there willing to take a few of them up to the room for a few hours + buying them drinks).

Estark, great vibe but on weekends too busy for me, 90-100 girls working at present.

Small villas and private clubs are paying 50 euros commissions to taxis for taking guys there. It seems that the business is good.