Guadalajara

[RichTheFact]

I agree if your looking for the best value the strip clubs are not it. In my years if doing this and the guys I've read online or I meet in person is that we all have different things we like. Some just want a warm hole for the cheapest price. So they like SGs, massage places, some don't like the music and club scene but want a good looking girl for a fair price. So they like the escort thing. Myself I like seeing a wide variety of options and finding a girl I enjoy talking to and if I decide to have sex the option is there. Many times I drink all night with a girl and don't do anything. Many will consider that a waste of money but that's how I enjoy myself.

Not sure if the unsavory types you mention, I usually don't try talking to other guys in the club and just enjoy being alone until I find a girl. Sometimes guys will try talking to me and I'm polite but decline hanging out with them.

The escorts are the easiest way, especially when you travel alone. My question for you is that if your traveling alone don't you get bored of being alone the hole time? I think part of the joy of traveling is trying to meet the local people and talking to them about their city. I've had very good success in the different cities that I traveled to finding girls I meet in the club spending time with me during the day for no extra charge. Usually the escorts are more business like and are controlled by the owner.

Like I said we all have different ways to enjoy ourselves but if your looking to save money definitely don't go to the club.

Strip clubs are totally different. Throwing 20 pesos bills on stage is not what they do down here. Roma sucks, over priced and kind of seedy. They quoted me $3,000 pesos to take a girl upstairs, and this was during the pandemic. They sell single sildenafil tabs for 500 pesos a pop. That's ridiculous when you can get a 16 pack at farmacias Guadalajara for 160 pesos. Also, I've been told that the scenes from sexmex are filmed upstairs as well.

The best agencies from my experience are Julyana VIP, Alex Escorts, and right now Rish Vagas has some good talent, (Bolivia) and some new talent (Ipanema, Madrid, and Suecia, the last of which is supposedly a "VIP" girl, although I would say she looks like she has had a lot of work done). I didn't have such a great experience with a girl from Lizeth Escorts, she was very mechanical, almost dead-fish like. But before and afterwards had great conversation. Go figure.

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[JHS 42]

I agree if your looking for the best value the strip clubs are not it. In my years if doing this and the guys I've read online or I meet in person is that we all have different things we like. Some just want a warm hole for the cheapest price. So they like SGs, massage places, some don't like the music and club scene but want a good looking girl for a fair price. So they like the escort thing. Myself I like seeing a wide variety of options and finding a girl I enjoy talking to and if I decide to have sex the option is there. Many times I drink all night with a girl and don't do anything. Many will consider that a waste of money but that's how I enjoy myself.

Not sure if the unsavory types you mention, I usually don't try talking to other guys in the club and just enjoy being alone until I find a girl. Sometimes guys will try talking to me and I'm polite but decline hanging out with them.

The escorts are the easiest way, especially when you travel alone. My question for you is that if your traveling alone don't you get bored of being alone the hole time? I think part of the joy of traveling is trying to meet the local people and talking to them about their city. I've had very good success in the different cities that I traveled to finding girls I meet in the club spending time with me during the day for no extra charge. Usually the escorts are more business like and are controlled by the owner.

Like I said we all have different ways to enjoy ourselves but if your looking to save money definitely don't go to the club.

You make valid points, and I certainly don't mean to denigrate someone else's preferred option. I also don't think the streetwalkers or esteticas are my thing either, for a range of reasons, but people are entitled to their tastes (and having those cheaper options out there probable keeps downward price pressure on the escort prices, so everyone wins).

I actually operate a lot like you describe when I'm traveling in the US, where the sex in strip clubs is never a sure thing—I just go, hang out, see what happens. I've always been interested in the fichera bars in GDL—but never get around to trying it out, but it seems like it would afford a chance to sit and chat and flirt and feel things out. I never really had a lot of luck with meeting girls in the GDL strip clubs intereseted in just hanging out during the day, but my Spanish was substantially worse back then too, so it probably was a barrier to some degree. Over the years there have been a few agency girls who I'd see off the clock, but I always let them initiate it and of course they need to do that with care (and there are a few agencies I wouldn't risk burning my relationship with even if they did). I'm old enough at this point there's always time to talk between rounds anyway, so we always get to chat (.

[Sol12]

When I started going to Guadalajara I hit up some of the strip clubs, but it always seemed to me that the agencies were a better value. Although I haven't visited all of them (and it's been years since I visited any of them, so maybe the situation is different now), the prices were higher, the quality no better, and sometimes you put yourself in more direct contact with some unsavory types. I'd much rather deal with an agency on my phone, and meet the girl at my own hotel or motel room. Plus some of the clubs were pretty hit or miss, while the better agencies seem to have a much higher success rate. I guess I could see it for a night out with a bunch of likeminded friends or something, but as a solo traveler, it's never been my preferred option.

I agree if your looking for the best value the strip clubs are not it. In my years if doing this and the guys I've read online or I meet in person is that we all have different things we like. Some just want a warm hole for the cheapest price. So they like SGs, massage places, some don't like the music and club scene but want a good looking girl for a fair price. So they like the escort thing. Myself I like seeing a wide variety of options and finding a girl I enjoy talking to and if I decide to have sex the option is there. Many times I drink all night with a girl and don't do anything. Many will consider that a waste of money but that's how I enjoy myself.

Not sure if the unsavory types you mention, I usually don't try talking to other guys in the club and just enjoy being alone until I find a girl. Sometimes guys will try talking to me and I'm polite but decline hanging out with them.

The escorts are the easiest way, especially when you travel alone. My question for you is that if your traveling alone don't you get bored of being alone the hole time? I think part of the joy of traveling is trying to meet the local people and talking to them about their city. I've had very good success in the different cities that I traveled to finding girls I meet in the club spending time with me during the day for no extra charge. Usually the escorts are more business like and are controlled by the owner.

Like I said we all have different ways to enjoy ourselves but if your looking to save money definitely don't go to the club.

[JHS 42]

In my opinion and many others in GDL it's the best club it's just expensive. Men's Club use to be as good or better but they got really hurt with COVID and haven't been the same. In fact on my last trip they were closed. Not sure if it's permanent or they are doing a remodel. Roma is the same owner as Cesar's but not as good of quality girls. Candies had been talked about on the local boards before but I've never visited. Muzz and Casa de George are very close to Cesar's but I've never been impressed with the girls.

Yeah it's all legal in GDL.

When I started going to Guadalajara I hit up some of the strip clubs, but it always seemed to me that the agencies were a better value. Although I haven't visited all of them (and it's been years since I visited any of them, so maybe the situation is different now), the prices were higher, the quality no better, and sometimes you put yourself in more direct contact with some unsavory types. I'd much rather deal with an agency on my phone, and meet the girl at my own hotel or motel room. Plus some of the clubs were pretty hit or miss, while the better agencies seem to have a much higher success rate. I guess I could see it for a night out with a bunch of likeminded friends or something, but as a solo traveler, it's never been my preferred option.

[Sol12]

Thanks for that intel. I'll be traveling there soon for other reasons but wasn't even sure if I'll be exploring options there so I might check out Caesars if I have the opportunity. Would you say that is the best club as far as quality there? So I'm assuming it's legal also like zona in Tijuana?

In my opinion and many others in GDL it's the best club it's just expensive. Men's Club use to be as good or better but they got really hurt with COVID and haven't been the same. In fact on my last trip they were closed. Not sure if it's permanent or they are doing a remodel. Roma is the same owner as Cesar's but not as good of quality girls. Candies had been talked about on the local boards before but I've never visited. Muzz and Casa de George are very close to Cesar's but I've never been impressed with the girls.

Yeah it's all legal in GDL.

[Anthony2023]

You can also go to some of the lower end bars and get better deals but you might not find the quality of girls to be what you like. Last trip Cesar's was almost full with customers and no place to sit. I'd say 90% of the girls had big fake butts and boobs and the ones I talked to were mostly from Colombia. They did have some thin natural girls but not the norm in that place.

Thanks for that intel. I'll be traveling there soon for other reasons but wasn't even sure if I'll be exploring options there so I might check out Caesars if I have the opportunity. Would you say that is the best club as far as quality there? So I'm assuming it's legal also like zona in Tijuana?

[Sol12]

Do the strip clubs in GDL offer services like Tijuana and Colombia strip clubs? Like do they have rooms on site as well? Also what is more pricey than Hong Kong club?

Yes the strip clubs offer services on site. If the girl feels comfortable with you you can arrange to see her after work.

I didn't inquire on services on my last trip but last year after COVID it was around 4000 pesos in Cesar's. So about double what you pay in Tijuana but remember that the club gets about half that. Now you can also rent a VIP room for around 2000 pesos for some time I forgot how long that is or they let you stay as long as your buying bottles. In that room you might get to negotiate better with the girls or get more since you are in a more private area and buying bottles. Kind of similar to the VIP rooms that over look the stages at HK.

If you get a girl to see you after work it should be around 2000 pesos an hour but with recent inflation that might of gone up some but the longer the girl spends with you the better price per hour you will get.

You can also go to some of the lower end bars and get better deals but you might not find the quality of girls to be what you like. Last trip Cesar's was almost full with customers and no place to sit. I'd say 90% of the girls had big fake butts and boobs and the ones I talked to were mostly from Colombia. They did have some thin natural girls but not the norm in that place.

[Anthony2023]

Well you happen to be looking in the cheapest places so you basically get what you pay for. Besides most Mexican men like bigger girls and since the estticas are just for afternoon quickies the looks aren't that important. Also if your an attractive girl why would you want to work for such little money. Depending on your budget you can spend a little more with some agency girls, girls on Twitter some can be very hot but they will cost more. You can also go to the strip clubs, GDL has many and lots of girls from South America.

Do the strip clubs in GDL offer services like Tijuana and Colombia strip clubs? Like do they have rooms on site as well? Also what is more pricey than Hong Kong club?

[Mandm1107]

Day is almost done and I'm a lot buzzed. The sun is beginning to set and I find Paula,22 yo streetwalker behind the Paris Hotel. She quotes 350 including room. I think I got ripped off at Calle Huerto now. LOL. It includes condom, definitely got ripped at Huerto, LOL.

She tries to upsell with a blow job for 150 more. I agree. I need the help. I have tequila dick and I know it's not going to happen as fast as the other day. She takes off her clothes and reveals a cesarían section scar. No big deal for me. Paula is patient and works it.

Two positions were allowed but I just chose doggy. I took a while. Damn tequila. No rush from Paula, she just pulled out her phone and scrolled down her social media.

Next, I'm going to try the Estéticas, but sober. I didn't carry ID or a photocopy. I just read the previous posts but I didn't see any cops around at all. Thanks again everyone for the help. I'll keep reporting.

[JHS 42]

The do it because so many gringos are * * *sies who pay the bribe. I get it. They load you into the back of the squad car and threaten to run you in for whatever real or trumped up charge. Unless you have committed a grave offense worthy of booking you, the are just bluffing you for the bribe. Every time you pay the cops you perpetuate the problem and make it harder for all gringos. The last time they did it to me was for having photocopies of my passport and FMM, not the originals. Originals ARE required under the law. I told them I would pay the judge or court if necessary. They kept me in the car and drove around to scare me. I didn't budge so they released me. Cowboy up.

I'm sure it depends on where you are and what you look like, but in 40-50 trips to Guadalajara over the past decade, I've only been hassled for bribes by police for bribes twice. The first time I just played dumb and acted like I didn't speak Spanish and he gave what amounted to a stern warning, threw my passport back onto my lap, gave up, and stomped back to his car. The second time I was in a taxi on the way to the airport at like 4 am and the cop pulled us over. The taxi driver said "If you have 200 pesos we can make sure we get to the airport on time". (I think it was 200—I couldn't swear now, but it wasn't a ton). By the time the cop got to the window, the driver had the bill in his hand, they exchanged, and I don't think even a word was spoken and we were back on the road.

[Tiny 12]

The do it because so many gringos are * * *sies who pay the bribe. I get it. They load you into the back of the squad car and threaten to run you in for whatever real or trumped up charge. Unless you have committed a grave offense worthy of booking you, the are just bluffing you for the bribe. Every time you pay the cops you perpetuate the problem and make it harder for all gringos. The last time they did it to me was for having photocopies of my passport and FMM, not the originals. Originals ARE required under the law. I told them I would pay the judge or court if necessary. They kept me in the car and drove around to scare me. I didn't budge so they released me. Cowboy up.

As you know, it's not strictly a gringo thing. A lot of Mexicans pay mordidas for traffic violations too.

And there are upsides compared to the USA. If I get stopped for speeding here, my insurance rates potentially go up. I either have to pay an arm and a leg for deferred adjudication or take a defensive driving class if I don't want the ticket on my record. I can lose my license if I get too many tickets. A buddy of mine from Chihuahua once said something like "I keep a stack of 200 peso notes in my car, and I can speed with impunity. I love my country!"

It used to be in some places you had to pay money, maybe several thousand dollars, to get a job as a Mexican policeman. And so you'd go into the job expecting a return on your investment, in addition to your measly salary. I don't know if that's common any longer.

I guess it's a question of how much time you're willing to spend and your tolerance for risk. See here for for an example from a border town.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...36#post2801336.

Thanks for the info about the original passport and FMM BTW! I didn't know that. I do always carry photocopies or have photos on my phone.

[GM426]

Walked over to the Hotel Occidental and I saw about 4 SW in Calle Huerto, I needed something quick and this was it. Went to the first one was Valeria. A little more indigenous than I'm used to but it had to do.

She quoted 500 including room. I agreed. I had my own condom but she insisted on buying one there .20 pesos. Tried to upsell me outside, as well as in the room. I didn't give in. She said she would make it great, etc. I started thinking with my little head, but I remembered I didn't have time for this. I passed on the upgrades. Made me wash my hands and she put the condom on with tissues on the side to not touch skin. While putting it on. Held the condom on during doggy style and I quickly busted a nut. I got a phone call in the middle of this which is why I had to hurry.

I'm not done here in GDL yet. Will report more later. Thanks everyone for the help finding the street action.

Newbie here. Keep 'them coming, (No pun.)

[Juan Carter]

I'd carry mordida money and also carry a photocopy of my passport and tourist card. At one time the immigration police in Guadalajara were setting up roadblocks and kidnapping foreigners and extorting money from them, and maybe still are. Apparently state police and others were involved in this too.

https://mexicodailypost.com/2021/08/...a-immigration/

Anyway, having proof you're in the country legally might reduce the chance someone would try to shake you down.

I've been stopped in GDL twice. One time was for speeding and the cop let me go without a ticket or mordida. The second time I was driving a rental car and two cops stopped me because allegedly the temporary license plates had expired. They wanted the equivalent of about $150, and said they were going to impound the car if I didn't pay up. I told them to go ahead, it's not my car, and they just let me go.

In general, if you don't have USA Plates on your car, Mexican police won't stop you unless you actually did commit a violation. I'm not sure if that does you any good if you're walking around though. Like someone said, you don't see a lot of cops walking around.

The do it because so many gringos are * * *sies who pay the bribe. I get it. They load you into the back of the squad car and threaten to run you in for whatever real or trumped up charge. Unless you have committed a grave offense worthy of booking you, the are just bluffing you for the bribe. Every time you pay the cops you perpetuate the problem and make it harder for all gringos. The last time they did it to me was for having photocopies of my passport and FMM, not the originals. Originals ARE required under the law. I told them I would pay the judge or court if necessary. They kept me in the car and drove around to scare me. I didn't budge so they released me. Cowboy up.

[GM426]

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[Mandm1107]

My plane arrived late Sunday night. I drove around the area in a rented car. I got approached by some mariachis but I didn't see any street girls. Turned a couple of corners and saw a few cops waiting for something. Called it a night and went to my hotel in Zona Histórico.

Next day, I was able to get away for a short time before the people I was with started asking questions. Walked over to the Hotel Occidental and I saw about 4 SW in Calle Huerto, I needed something quick and this was it. Went to the first one was Valeria. A little more indigenous than I'm used to but it had to do.

She quoted 500 including room. I agreed. I had my own condom but she insisted on buying one there .20 pesos. Tried to upsell me outside, as well as in the room. I didn't give in. She said she would make it great, etc. I started thinking with my little head, but I remembered I didn't have time for this. I passed on the upgrades. Made me wash my hands and she put the condom on with tissues on the side to not touch skin. While putting it on. Held the condom on during doggy style and I quickly busted a nut. I got a phone call in the middle of this which is why I had to hurry.

I'm not done here in GDL yet. Will report more later. Thanks everyone for the help finding the street action.