Guadalajara

[Tiny 12]

I'll weigh in even though the question wasn't directed to me. GDL does not offer the monger good value for the money, for women or food, except at the low end. I pay $100 at an estetica for what might cost me $150 to $200 in an Asian massage parlor in the USA. An attractive escort costs 60% to 100% of the price in Texas. A poke in a good strip club costs more in Guadalajara than Houston, although you do get a bit more privacy and time in GDL. Good restaurants cost about the same as in the small city where I live in the US. I don't know where you're exchanging money, but if it's at banks, which have branches all over the country, it's not going to make any difference whether you're in the north or the south. While I use ATM's, not banks or casas de cambio , at 11.50 to the dollar I know you're getting screwed. I was in Mexico over the weekend and banks were giving around 12.50.

[Artisttyp]

I was headed to GDL from Mazatlan but headed to Tijuana instead. I'd love to read a brief summary on your thoughts regarding GDL as a city mongering food shopping a overall value? You are well traveled so I value your opinion.

What kind of an exchange rate are you currently getting? When I was in Mazatlan 2 weeks ago they were giving 11. 50 to the dollar. Someone said the further south you go the exchange rate gets lower.

[Albert Punter]

Saturday I decided to give a try to Danny's Estetica, mentioned a few posts back.
Address is the one mentioned and name is written outside, so easy to find.
Opening hours are 10 AM to 8. 30 PM Mon to Sat. 10 AM to 3. 30 PM on Sundays.
Place is quite new and rooms / shower are clean.
Got there around 4. 30 PM, there were 7 girls on duty. I saw Kristal, whom was mentioned by another member. She was passable.
I only saw a couple of girls who were attractive (to me, of course). Others were too old or too fat.
I decided to try Wendy, morena with hot face, skin like tanned, thin body with nice legs.
Took her for 1 hr at 600 pesos.
Bad surprise when she undressed: stretch marks on her belly, baby obviously. Actually three!
Anyhow, I enjoyed the session, she was really into it.
Her oral skills are excellent. Unfortunately it was CBJ otherwise I would have finished in her mouth.
I finished missionary instead.
After a regular massage, we had a second session. I asked her to stand up in order to take her from back.
She obliged and asked to position ourselves so she could see us in the mirror: she loved looking while I was screwing her from the back. Then we tried doggy and I believe this is position she likes the most.

Some stats:
Age: 30
Occupation: working girl
Rate: pesos 600
Height: 160 cms / 5. 2 ft
Weight: 45 kgs / 100 lbs
Face: 8/10
Hair: black
Body: 7/10
Tits: 6/10 but with nice nipples
Pussy: 9/10
Skin: 9/10
Skills: 9/10
Passion: 8/10
Foreplay: 6/10
Kissing: no
CBJ: 10/10 (asked for BBBJ offering extra but not accepted)
CIM: no
DATY: yes
FS: all positions you may think
Anal: not asked
Repeat: maybe

[Albert Punter]

Can you please name those bars where hunting for local "freebees"?
Thanks

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* To pick "local girls" try the bars at Downdown
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[Chica Luv]

Thanks for the great report. Probably one of the best I've read w / re to GDL.

I too love Latin women, and especially those Big-Eyed ones in GDL.

I currently have a Live-In Mexican GF that is 25 years younger than I, and she is always ready to enjoy sex. ALWAYS. I think she gets horny just putting on her lipstick. LOL.

I'm sending you a PM, and would like to hear more about ESL programs.

Thanks again for the great report,

CL.

I have recently returned to the land of mean spirited selfishness after 3 months of teaching English in Guadalajara.

The correct change as possible. Even at big stores, Mexicans often don't have much change.

ONce a Mexicana is into a sex rhythm, don't try to slow it up. Go with the flow.

Mexican women love food, dancing and sex, and not necessarily in that order. AND Alcohol, tambien!

Would you believe me if I told you that Mexicanas are totally ready for sex within a minute of being touched or caressed? That would be a lie, they're ready within 15 seconds. Maybe it's the hot sun or the Catholic culture of Jalisco but it happened too often not to be true. There are many beautiful women in GDL with tight pants and sexy shoes but they don't eyeball men the way pros in Santo Domingo or Medellin do. But behind closed doors.

My advice to anyone trying the esteticas is to find some you have a good session with. If the second session is even better, you've got a solid squeeze for your time in GDL. If the second session is blah, keep on moving. There are plenty of esteticas.

[TheGuyOverThere]

Thank you Mojado!

Mind providing a few more details?

- hours of operation.

- shift peak hours and number of girls.

- selection and ratings of available choices by sight.

Really appreciate the post!

[El Mojado]

Hey there! I am only here one more day in Gdl but I have a nice story to share with a great new place that just opened up 2 months ago that has some awesome "talent". I have not written a report in a while so my report writing style is definitely a bit rusty, but I will share a lot of information here so anyone reading can find the massage parlor and know what the prices are before walking in. I can give some details about the women, but I have only been with three of them as of this writing. But all of them are really nice, friendly and seem to be a lot more relaxed at this place than at others I have gone to in the past. And there is a wonderful reason why. Here is my report:

I had been away from mongering in Mexico for awhile, and had a nice thing going with one of the workers at the Geisha Massage parlor in downtown Guadalajara. So I went back to Geisha to try to find her and sadly they informed me she was no longer there (her working name is "Dany". Short for Daniela).

So saddened by the news, I remembered I had the card Dany had given me for Geisha with her name and her cell phone number on the back. We never met outside of Geisha but I had called her before to see how she was and to find out if she was working certain days. But it had been over a year since I had contacted her and cell phone numbers are notorious for being lost when someone gets their cell stolen or it falls into a puddle, gets eaten by the dog. Etc.

So I sent a text to her from my Mexican cell phone that I have and hoped for the best. And amazingly, the best doesn't describe what happened next! It turns out it was her number still and she sent me a text back! She is now running her own, very modern styled, massage parlor with other women who had left Geisha. It is called "Dany's". I went the very next day and was thrilled to see Dany. She no longer works as a "service provider" but she has a good staff of young women working there and she is much more in tune with them and they with her. She is not your average "madame". She actually treats her workers as equals and with a much better attitude. I would expect no less from Dany, her heart and spirit caught my interest from the first time I met her years ago at Geisha. Her sex skills also "held" my "interest" of course. But it is so much better when you really like the person you are with and they like you too. And being a repeat client sure helps, plus it does tend to make for better and better sessions together and sometimes even time spent outside of the massage parlor whether going out to a hotel privately with them or simply going to a store together or getting some help with trying to find something in the country / city you are visiting. That's a bit beyond what most of us are on here for, but if you treat these women well and continue seeing them over time, you'll be pleasantly surprised how well they will treat you!

Anyway. Here is the important information for all of us out there. Location and Price:

Location: Estetica Dany's is on Avenida De La Paz #1561 between the streets of Enrique Diaz De Leon and Belgica. They are directly across the street from a very nice vegetarian restaurant. If you see "Restaurante Vegetariano" on the opposite side of the street, you know you are very close to Dany's! If you take a taxi to this place, ask for them to take you to the vegetarian restaurant so you can avoid the taxi's commission. I tend to scope out the place first and find a nice business nearby and if I choose to take a taxi there I have them take me to the other shop or business nearby and I step inside long enough for the taxi to leave. Then I go about my "real" business and monger in peace. Works better for me and the girls get to keep more of the money I spend on them and everyone is happy.

Price: They are having promo's right now since they are new and hit the ground running hard! From 10am (when they open) to about 2PM, they offer a 15 Minute special for $200 Pesos. I have not done that, maybe tomorrow, but I believe it is full service. A quickie, one "pop".30 minutes with full service. 1 "pop", costs $350 Pesos. 45 minutes with 1 "pop" costs $450 Pesos. And 1 full hour with 2 "pops" costs $600 pesos. There are more services available, such as having two women at the same time and probably 1 1/2 hours as well. I don't know those prices, but once you are at 45 minutes you are paying roughly 10 pesos per minute. I found that 1 hour for $600 is great, and 45 minutes is also good. I tend to tip lightly as I instead "come" by more often and bring the women fresh fruit or pan dulce and things like that for all the workers and Dany to enjoy. If I was rich I would tip more, of course, but I am not. I generally tip about 10% for the 45 minute session. So 450 pesos turns into 500 pesos. At 600, I still give about 50 pesos, although I am tempted to just go with the 600 as it is already 100 more than the 45 minute session and usually one "pop" is all I need to keep me quite happy.

I have been there three times so far in the week or so that I re-established contact with Dany. I started out with the 30 minute, but converted that to a 45 minute session moments after choosing Krystal. We just hit it off really well. I had hoped Dany would still do some services, but Dany is now a "behind the desk" worker and she has a lot to take care of for the moment to moment functioning of the place. Krystal has very smooth skin, seems to be in her mid 20's, nice chest, a little more meat on her but in the right places for me! It was a very nice session and a great welcome to Estetica Dany's. Krystal gave me some good GFE our whole session, and she was very interested in learning English. Dany made it clear that things like that have to be handled outside of work hours, so I was not able to settle on how to teach Krystal English, but I hope to! She's a doll! Lovely, velvety, milk chocolate skin! She started out my massage with lots of little kisses all over my back. It was awesome!

The next one I was with is called Naomi. She's very light skinned, short and has nice nipples. She gives a very nice CBJ, but her doggie style will get you going hard and fast! She can hang with the rythm and I almost blew my load not long into the session because of how nice she feels in that position! She has a very pretty face and I love to look at these wonderful women and take the time to caress their faces and hair and treat them as I would a girlfriend. For the short 45 minutes to an hour I am with them, they are my girlfriend. They are the girl who just can't say no! . She started out on top, then doggie, then we went to Mish and that got me to "pop" big time. But we still had some time on the clock and she was not in a hurry to leave. We talked about her kids, how she got into the business, her hopes for her future and other things. It was really nice, and she's smart and realizing that this is not something she can do forever. She is not wasting her money and she goes the distance to give a great service. One of her legs was really bothering her because she had hiked the day before (her day off) with friends and family, but she still rode me like a jockey before I realized that it was not easy for her to do. Doggie was better and Mish great. But she was quite enthusiastic in the doggie position! So you doggie style lovers, be warned! Go for the full hour session with her if you tend to bust a nut in that position!

Friday I was with Alejandra and though she is not as pretty as some of the other women there, she has such strong legs and such a wonderful, positive attitude that I am going to have a hard time NOT choosing her again! (I am sampling a different woman each time. The sacrifices I make to write reports) Alejandra can also suck start a diesel truck. She started out on me with a CBJ that felt incredible. It's better to be covered for safety sake, although that takes away some from the BJ, but she just has a lot of tongue strength! Her legs are also very strong and sturdy, and she rode me like a harley! She also has cinnamon colored skin,"piel canela", very nice. Just a shade lighter than Krystal, and again very smooth skin, very sexy! Her nipples are luscious, very pointy, wonderful to suck on. But having her ride me cowboy style was great, and she really got into it. Afterwards we went to doggie, and that was OK (It's not my favorite position). Then we went to Mish and then modified Mish (where you have the woman close her legs while you are still in her and you lock legs together to get a nicer, tighter compression. Awesome!). That's where I lost it and had my first "pop".

We cuddled and hugged and talked for a while. I had brought my MP3 player and some small powered speakers and played some nice music and that seemed to really set the mood and made things really nice. It was not too loud and we talked about a number of things. Very GFE. Then she continued to cuddle with me and we spooned, and things just got hot again and we went for round two. Again, her on top, only this time she really got into it! It was nice but wow, this woman has great leg strength, great muscle tone. After a while of that we went to Mish and modified mish and I finished again, drained of any and all juice down there and quite satisfied. She gave me a kiss and it was not a peck, but a genuine kiss. We cuddled a bit longer and then I hit the showers. I don't think we ran over the time limit. It's important the girls don't do that or they can get in trouble. Dany would not dock their pay like the other places do, but I am sure she'd give them a warning and a talking to.

My experience so far with Dany's Massage parlor has been excellent. It's likely that having been one of Dany's clients in the past helps with the girls now, but they all used to work at Geisha's so they know each other and Dany treats them as an equal. I think that has more to do with their morale and attitude, that they work for someone they like and who treats them as an equal. I have seen it as I have been privvy to hang out with the girls before and after my session as I wait to talk with Dany. I have been able to talk with Dany a bit during each visit. Dany actually makes sure the workers get a bigger share of the money than the business, which is opposite how many of these places work. The girls confirmed it and some of them have worked at places like Mediterraneo and High Class before, not just at Geisha. They get around 60% of what you pay for the service. Most other places only give the women 40. I only have Dany's word and the word of the women working at the massage parlor to go by with this, but they have no reason to lie to me. I can see it in the way they treat each other and how they look up to Dany. They don't tremble in fear of their boss and they don't seem to have cat-fights among themselves (at least right now). That makes a big difference in the kind of service you and I receive.

The showers are very nice, clean, modern. Plenty of hot water, very clean toilets, and they provide you with shower slippers so you don't slip in the shower. That's very, very important. Wear them when you use the shower and when you walk out of the shower. Mexican tile is generally very slippery when wet. That kind of "wet" is not good for mongering. Nothing will take the hardness out of your rod faster than a slip and fall onto tile and concrete flooring!

I am going to ask Dany to get permission to take pictures of the rooms and hopefully I can get some pics of the girls if they're OK with it. Then when I figure out how to upload pictures here I will send them up. The rooms at places like High Class, Geisha, and some of the other places I have been to in Guadalajara had seen much better days. The shower heads at High Class used to be terrible! I don't know how they are now, but Dany's work perfectly and don't spray water all over the floor over the sliding glass doors. Much more like taking a shower at home after having great sex!

OK it's a long report, but it has been a while for me. Being stuck in the USA is not fun at all. Having sex with a USA woman is an ordeal before, during and after. Instead of that I'll go with my own "five-fingered discount" every time and just reminisce of the Mexican beauties I have been fortunate enough to have been with over the years!

Happy mongering all!

[Fkpunter]

The average girl on the street definitely seem to be better looking in Guadalajara than in Mexico city, not exactly the same standard as walking around Cuba but there's a lot of cuties wandering around. I went by mediteranio, they presented the girls by one. Ok selection, probably about 3 7s. Picked a blonde with a nice rack and arse who seemed to have a good attitude. 540 for the session. NIce cheeky massage then she started a BBBJ paused after a couple of minutes and then asked if I'd tip her otherwise she'd put on the rubber, I nodded and she carried on with gusto. Nice almost GFE session, tipped her 200 for CIM, smiles all round.

[Cuba Tourist]

Wel I arrived today and am staying downtown. I have 8 phone numbers but just started chatting to a very pretty girl in one of the plazas and think that is probably better than the internet, which was alot of work and not so great. If any one is here now, pm me and we can get together.

[Cuba Tourist]

I will be in Guadalajara, as you all know now, for about a week at the end of January. I will try to date the non-pros and see what happens so I am writing girls on Tagged and Match. Com. Mx. So far. 30 messages sent and 6 replies, but it is only about 24 hours. If I can get dates to show me around and have fun with them, I will be pleased, sex or no sex. I would then like to invite some back to visit me on my island the following month. It is much harder than Colombia, however, and I am starting to see similarities with the US. But 4 of the 6 are under 26 and I am 41 so that is pretty good. Some seem wild and some look like good girls. None have been approached by an American before.

[Sound7]

Alexander's near Juarez station / Subway Refill Card.

Great reporting and very helpful info.

Guadalajara is huge city to navigate without running up huge taxi bill in 100's of pesos. Good public bus and subway system (Line 1 and 2) exist. Fatest mode would be the subway from point A to B in peak hours. Near Juarez station to Alexander masculinas sounds very appealing.

Subway fare is 7 peso but requires a refill card. Have no idea how one attains this subway refill card other than ask stranger for help with 10 pesos.

[Smithersl2004]

I have recently returned to the land of mean spirited selfishness after 3 months of teaching English in Guadalajara. My ball and chain accompanied me, lucky me, precisely to cock block me I'm sure but the esteticas masculinas gave me an outlet. As a long time lurker and short time member of ISG, I felt it was only fair to share my observations.

The street scene and the strip clubs suck as has been discussed here. Guadalajara has these distinct institutions, male beauty salons. What would a male really want at a beauty salon? How about a nude massage, BJ, DATY, possibly, yes possibly GFE, and DATY. The first estetica I tried was Mediterraneo. I think they're a victim of their own success. For 520 pesos, I got a pretty girl with bolt ons, a lame message. 30 seconds of DATY and pleasant, but univolved sexo. Then I tried the lowest of the low end, Alexander's near Juarez station. The mamasan took a shine to me. For 325 pesos, I got a 20 minute deep tissue massage, BJ, dfk, unlimited DATY, and "servicio completo." Dude, that's 15 dollars for the massage and 10 dollars for the "extras." I ended up doing Chrissy once a week every week thereafter. Very GFE, she said we were "buen amantes.", good lovers and the experience was muy intenso for her. (what else would you expect from lengua de oro?) She told me the other girls who worked for her were lazy and just wanted to bang guys for 5 minutes. Don't know. Couldn't try. I tipped her well. 50 to 75 peos. By the way, always bring as close to the correct change as possible. Even at big stores, Mexicans often don't have much change.

Barbara at Jimmy's was nice, a brick shithouse but no DATY. (400 pesos) The other girls there (2) , smiled at me as I left. I did Andrea at Venezias for 380. New to the business, the massage and BJ were awful but the sexo was great. Three girls were presented to me at Italia's, near 9 corners. Using some sort of reverse psychology, I took the heaviest Diana. She was ok but when I returned they wanted to stick me with her again and my Spanish wasn't good enough to correct the situation, so I left.

Diamonds on Montenegro has its own angle. I was forwarned by ISG. First you get a great massage for 200 pesos. Then they discuss the sexo. You're so relaxed, what are you going to say, No? I got Paty who was an older girl with a very hairy muff. I enjoyed it but the cost was 620 all in. For half that I could have Chrissy. No repeat at Diamonds. The same guy owns Venezia, Alexanders and Sagitarius on Federalissimo. Good sexo with Diana at Sagitarius but no DATY for 400 pesos.

My final review is of Luigi's on Lopez Cotilla. Here I acted wisely for a change and had some really good times. First I had Adrianna, great body. I asked her if she had had a boob job expecting no for the answer. She said yes. It was hard for the discerning eye to tell. Adrianna was a non-orgasmic Mexican provider, if that's not an oxymoron. Despite my tongue and her fingers, we couldn't get her off. They tried to match me with her the second time but I showed some balls and picked Paulina, pretty girl but no DATY and rather tired conventional sex. Third time I got the 28yo brick shithouse Sandy. Wow! Totally amoral and totally into it. Then she wasn't there and I got the morena Vanessa. Loved DATY but had little breasts so would probably lose out to Sandy for a repeat. My last session in GDL, I was supposed to session with another girl (who told me she lked DATY) but she wasn't there. So I selected Sandy. Great session. ONe thing I learned from Chrissy and Sandy. ONce a Mexicana is into a sex rhythm, don't try to slow it up. Go with the flow.

Mexican women love food, dancing and sex, and not necessarily in that order.

Would you believe me if I told you that Mexicanas are totally ready for sex within a minute of being touched or caressed? That would be a lie, they're ready within 15 seconds. Maybe it's the hot sun or the Catholic culture of Jalisco but it happened too often not to be true. There are many beautiful women in GDL with tight pants and sexy shoes but they don't eyeball men the way pros in Santo Domingo or Medellin do. But behind closed doors.

My advice to anyone trying the esteticas is to find some you have a good session with. If the second session is even better, you've got a solid squeeze for your time in GDL. If the second session is blah, keep on moving. There are plenty of esteticas.

[Ilpistolero]

The "scene" always go on, the only downside, is the number of ladies available, many girls go to Puerto Vallarta.

Got a q.

My question: Is the scene still going on during Christmas to New Year's. Mainly I dig esteticas and street girls downtown. Hopeing they'll still be around.

Last time I was in GDL, I had a GREAT time with the "low quality" girls everyone warns against. They were strict with condom use (as was I) so not sure where the disease risk is. Has anyone one here caught anything. Or am I the only one that frequents the street girls when I'm feeling cheap and looking for a quickie?

[Tiny 12]

WWS, I believe you and don't have any arguments, assuming your Spanish is good. You probably have more game than I do.

Cuba Tourist, I think that makes sense, that you're getting a better response from the lower class girls. You look at the bottom 50% in Mexico, and they're about as well off on average as your average Colombian. For the attractive, available, middle or upper middle class, educated tapatias, if they know you've got money and if you present yourself reasonably well you'll probably do okay assuming you can communicate. That means she either speaks decent English or you speak decent Spanish. I've never been to Cali, but had better luck with nonpros in Cartagena, Barranquilla, Medellin and Bogota than Guadalajara. As you probably already know, Copa has nonstops to Panama with good connections to Colombia, so that would be an option if your experience is like mine was. Have you tried the online thing in Colombia? If so were you getting more interest there than Guadalajara?

[WorldWideScout]

Thank you, Tiny. I sent 50 friend requests through Tagged. Com and am averaging about 1/3 acceptance. I sent 26 messages on Amigos. Com and have not received a single answer. I think the Tagged girls are much more lower class than the Amigos girls which might explain the difference. Also the Tagged request was just yes or no while the amigos note was written in imperfect but understandable Spanish.

There are flights to my island via Panama, even though it is cheaper through Miami.

If I have an extra 3 or 4 days after my business trip is over, would you think it would be worth it to fly to a city like Cali instead of staying in Guadalajara?

I've found dating in GDL MUCH easier than in the U. S. Unlike USA girls, Mexican girls seem to actually LIKE men and are appreciative of romance. A simple line like "wow! Eres Muy Linda!" works for me almost every time. Online, I don't know about. Online dating seems easier in Mexico City. In GDL, I've foundd the old fashioned approach of just hitting on a girl in person works. Also unlike the USA the girls will put forth some effort, at the very least they will come half way with the courting and flirting process. You won't have to do all the work like you would with a girl from the USA If a mexican girl is interested, you'll know.

For wife hunting, maybe start hanging out in churches and make friends with elders? They'll introduce you to single daughters and neices that are looking for something long term and quality I would think.