Guadalajara

[El Mojado]

I am on my way down to Mexico in a week or so! I will be in Guadalajara much of the time, but I will also be traveling a bit down towards Colima too for other things... but for mongering, Guadalajara it is!

Thanks AnonimoGDL for the report on "Ramon el Mamon" of Galileas. He sounds like the kind of guy I would probably want to beat with an iron pipe after talking to him for a few minutes. I may or may not try Galileas now. I guess he has paid some company to run his website as I remember it has some origins outside of Mexico (the web engine behind his site). Anyway... if he has any Xmas specials going I might call him up but I will take your advice. If the girl isn't the one from the pic I will bargain the price down or tell him to get out of the room with his chica and I'll go for the $800 peso per hour competition (that is the price I have paid in the past for "room service, sight unseen" and have had decent results with - just whatever agency the hotel called up).

I am definitely going to go by Geisha to see if Sonia and Susana are still working there and I will try out Mediterraneo as well. And of course, I like going to High Class though I will have to figure out how to get there by bus from where I am staying So I will definitely be a "ho-ho-hoing" this Xmas! If anyone else is going to be in GDL for Xmas PM me or mention it here. We can spread some Xmas cheer at the massage parlors

[Mou7189]

Great Investigative reporting!
You are right about the high price not meaning better service or a better looking girl. I have overpaid for services far far too many times, and more times than not it was through an agency.
Usually when I am in Mexico, I am not there for long periods of time. Two days and two nights is the max and it usually is 1 day and 1 night. So basically, I don't have time to waiste just want to get right into the action.
I have had one agency experience in GDL and it was just so so. Speaking no spanish I am at a huge disadvantage but I asked for help here and I eventually got it. I wrote notes down, I printed pages, printed street mapes, and arrived in GDL a bit earlier in the day. For some reason, I like staying in the downtown area and just walking around. I have always felt safe in GDL. I had mapped out a stragety but on the way to the hotel I spotted the Wal Mart and the Mission Carelton Hotel. I remebered a place that was close by so even though it was 20 minute walk back to that area from my hotel, I made the walk anyway. I spotted Mediterreneo walked right past it not realizing what it was. I actually though it was a bueaty parlor where girls went to get there hair and nails down. I turned around and went back. For me, I liked the fact that the girls were paraded in front of me one by one and I got to choose which one I wanted. It was a great experience and for me, not speaking any spanish, I could care less what the conversation was.
Keep up the good reporting and perhaps our paths will cross one day in GDL. If you ever make it to Detroit, let me know and I will steer you in the right direction.

[Trent100]

Any mongering, esteticas, independents in the lakeside area?

Ajijic, Jocotopec, Chapala or lakeside?

I have contributed to the board - see my reports on Guadalajara (Trent100) .

I hate to have to drive in to the city and was hoping someone could help me out with something Lakeside.

Sincere thanks in advance

Trent

[Anonimo Gdl]

Dude, you are totally buying the product of Galileas, of course he works on a cell phone and do you really think he has 100's of girls and needs several land lines? His website is really crappy and has really really old pictures, since it was petochas agency.

I know this guy well and he drives around in hs car with 3 or 4 girls, sometimes he picks up some girl at a plaza other house, and he gets in touch with other girls that have their own "agencies" too to have more material, but those are girls that I wouldn't pay more than 1000 pesos an hour.

When he arrives to the motel, he goes up to your rooom with the girl and tries so hard to covince you that the girl in your room in the one in the pic, he even puts his sony clie with the photo of the girl side to side and tells you with a smurk in his face "es la misma, igualita", hoping that you are thinking with your dick and not your brains what a fucktard!

A year ago I called him he started at 2500 for an hour, and I said "no this is not the girl in the photos" so he started giving me deals, 2000 for an hour, 1800, 1500, 1200! And I say no thanks and he got really pissed and leave cursing. Thats the last time I call them and I swear not to call him again.

So if you really want to risk your money buy GM stocks, Galilea is the same thing as any other agency; you don't know whats coming but you know it would certainly suck but with a 1500 pesos overprice.

So if you hope that you might get a gem like I was hopping too and decide to call Galileas be ready to say no and be tough on your decision and don't let Ramon convince you and also he a true prick because he uses the girl as a leverage when both the girl and him are in your room she will put her sad puppy face.

You might be better calling one of the divas in town for 2000-2500 pesos, whom actually are the girls in the photos but way too photoshoped almost all the time, but I have gotten better odds with the Divas 1 out of 5 maybe are true sculptures (I'm way too picky) maybe for some always are true sculptures.

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[El Mojado]

o.k. as promised, i am reporting back on the escort service "modelos galilea". they have a snazzy website and use a cell phone to deal with incoming calls. i only called and asked about services, i did not use their services as, unfortunately, i am still in the u.s. for a while...

apparently, they are strict to the rule of their specials on the web. that means that at 10pm the $1,700 peso special for 1 hour is over and you have to book 2 hours at $2,500 pesos. either way i happen to agree with mou. getting your action while paying the least for it is better. i think most of us who are in this "hobby" know that paying more does not necessarily guarantee getting better treatment. in fact, there are situations where the more you pay the less you get for your peso / dollar.

also, not being able to see the chica beforehand really makes it tougher. at places like [CodeWord123], high class, mediterraneo, geisha and other massage parlors you get to see them first right in front of you, though you don't really have a chance to talk. plus, the prices are really good at many of these places with [CodeWord123] at the high end of the spectrum.

but when you are in town and at your hotel room and have no time or interest to trot down to a local massage parlor the other option is to call a service like the "modelos". if you are at a motel (motel de paso as the mexicanos lovingly refer to them) you just dial "0" and ask the friendly gal at the front desk that you want a "chica" and they will dial up their service of choice and patch you through on the phone and you set up the "date". or you can dial one of many services that you can get from some newspapers. personally i like these motels because they are very modern (some built just a year or two ago), have plenty of hot water and tend to have huge beds - plus they are cheap, roughly between $250 to $350 pesos for 8 hours. the beds are not meant to sleep in (the mattresses are a bit stiff... the sheets, hopefully not too stiff hehe! but you can if you want, just don't overstay or they will hit you for another $250-$350 peso charge.

but going back to my phone call to "modelos galilea". a man answered the phone and spoke to me in spanish. i didn't try to speak in english but went ahead with my spanish which is pretty good, but anyone from mexico can tell it has an american accent. i was quoted the price on the website ($1,700) and told that the promotion time was ending and after 10pm it would be the standard $2,500 for 2 hours. i asked about the ladies available and he said the promotion was only good for the ones listed online for the promotion but that after 10pm all the others were available except for three that were out of the city.

so, it does seem to me that he is only running on one cell phone. my guess is that he calls the ladies afterwards on their cell phones and directs them to go to the site of the "job" (hotel, house, etc.). he may have his own driver(s) to pickup and deliver and pickup the ladies (and thus guarantee that he gets paid) or the ladies may be responsible for their own transport.

so, someone out there who has used their services will have to post more about the actual "delivery" if these ladies are true to the pic on the website. if i make it down there this year i will try to use their service though the cost is rather high. for $1,700 i could go to high class three times for three 1/2 hour to 45 minute services and there is no hotel cost, plus high class gives you a free soda or bottled water =)

so, we'll see. at least i can say that the guy was courteous on the phone and though cell phone calls are not as good as land-line calls, i could understand what he said ok. he mentioned that the girl would generally arrive to the hotel room in roughly 30 minutes as long as it was within the city boundaries. 30 to 45 minutes is generally what i have experienced when i have used call services in the past (in gdl i've just used the services provided by the hotel - they call the escort service and patch me through on the phone and i handle the negotiation and choose what they have to offer "sight unseen".)

i have been rather lucky with these services -- although you get some 4's and 5's on looks i have found some of them to be the 9's and 10's on action, satisfaction and repeat action! the last chica i got was a real cutie, though!!! we even spent the next days together "off the clock" and we went to the feria de guadalajara together and she stayed with me a few days and sex was fun and frequent. damned it sucked so much when she lost her cell phone months later as i have never been able to track her down since. i absolutely hate cell phones for this reason... i have lost track of some of the best sex workers i have ever had over the years because of their damned cell phones getting lost, stolen, broken, etc... there is nothing like an email address - just wish some of these chicas knew how to use the internet.

next time i get one that i really like, i am going to pay her for her time just to get her into an internet cafe and show her how to use the internet and get her an email address and have her practice emailing me.

so good luck you mongers heading to gdl! bang'em extra for me! i hope to make it down there this year or early next year.

[Mou7189]

i guess it is just a difference in opinion but no pussy is worth the amount of peso that has been mentioned here. i don't really care if the girl only ends up with 1/2, 3/4, or 1/4 of what i pay. to me, part of this sport is finding the best piece of ass that you can for the least amount of money. when i hear of guys spending 1500 peso to 2500 peso it jacks the price up for the rest of us.
sorry if some of you feel i not being open minded, i try to be. but that is just crazy money for anywhere in the world to spend on a piece of ass. look, i have been in this sport for a long time and have gotten a piece from all parts of the world. with very, and i mean very few exceptions, anytime there is a middle man the experience has not been good. i have a rule now that i have learned from my personal experience. keep in mind, this rule may not apply to others but for me it is what i have learned.......if i can't see the goods before agreeing to the deal then i am not interested. now, i don't mean that the girl shows up and has to drop her clothes. i mean that i no longer call agencies not knowing what will show up at the door. i get so excited that my little head starts making the decisions for my big head and i have put the hammer to some fat ugly chicks over the years, simply because i got worked up waiting for them and when they showed up i was usually so drunk that the little head said to the big head...."hey, a piece of ass is better than no piece of ass."
so money aside, thanks but no thanks. i will keep hitting places like mediterean, [CodeWord123], etc.

[Petochas]

Petochas, from Anonimo GDL, we know some of the photos on your web site aren't photos of the women that work there. How can we know the woman in the photo is the woman that will show up at our door? If I were to send you a private message and ask if the photos of a particular woman were real, would you let me know? I'm thinking English isn't your first language, so I'll translate,

De los comentarios de un miembro estimado aqui, Anonimo GDL, sabemos que hay fotos en tu sitio de ciertas mujeres que no trabajan por tu agencia. Como podemos saber si la mujer de la foto es la mujer que va a venir? Una sugerencia, si pagaras 19.95 USD para hacerte miembro de International Sex Guide, podriamos comunicar contigo con mensajes privados. Si uno de nosotros pensara en contratar a una chica, el podria comunicar contigo y preguntarte si las fotos de la chica particular son en realidad fotos de esa chica.

We have a policy or guarantee if your flames 30 minutes before and we confirmed that the girl who your you look for this available, S.A. to arrive she at your door is not the one of the photo nonpayments. no agency in the world gives this guarantee you.

[El Mojado]

Hey just wanted to chime in on this part of the thread. Certainly seems like the finances are getting strained all over the place these days. But just to let you know, the women only get to keep 1/2 of what they take in (on average). The other half goes to the agency that they work with / for.

I know this is true for High Class and a number of the agencies listed in the newspapers that you can contact by phone. Same with the agencies that the Motels de Paso use (those really nice looking, condominium style hotels that charge roughly $250 pesos for 8 hours on weekends, 12 hours during the week). I have made very good use of those hotels for pre-flight Mongering sessions as they are clean, bright, and have excellent showers overall (at least the ones on Avenida Colon do, near Periferico Sur along the tren ligero line).

So... The chica at High Class who gets a 1/2 hour service gets paid about $225 to $250 pesos. If she gets the hour service, she gets $450 pesos. I would assume the same with Modelos Galilea, though they have quite the website set up. I am very pleasantly surprised with the quality of the website and very proud that Mexicanos have been behind designing such sites. But the whole discussion on price and such here... I mean who on earth would pay a chica $500,000 pesos for 4 days? A NARCO!!! (Or a member of the Mexican Government, Military or Police... que es lo mismo! ja!) Turbulence over Mexico City my A...

But drug cartel politics aside, any lady working for an agency only gets to keep about half of what is paid. Independents are hard to find.

What I find particularly interesting about Modelos Galilea is that they are running on 1 cell phone number. The more successful agencies in Mexico City have a variety of phone lines, landlines, not cell phones. The sheer number of independents and agencies in Mexico City makes it difficult to make it if you only have 1 line. If someone calls and the line is busy, they will dial another agency. If you have several lines available and even with just one line operator you can still have a live voice at the other end to deal with. Out of curiosity I will contact Modelos Galilea very soon and report back with what I hear.

I am planning a trip to GDL very soon... hopefully around the beginning of December. I want to go see if the Geisha massage parlor is still in operation out back behind Sears. They are not far from Mediterraneo (in front of Howard Johnson hotel). I ALMOST went there once but the woman left in charge screwed up on the cost for an hour of service, so I went to Geisha. At that time I had a chica in Geisha named Susana, very nice, big rack, but a short girl. She was there a year leater and didn't recognize me. That time I went with a VERY busty gal named Sonia. She was freaked out a bit when I caressed her nipples with my tongue -- she liked it, but had had a very bad experience with a drunk Mexican man who bit her hard a few months back. Sonia really likes it doggie style and man, for those of you who like to titty fuck, she has the tits for it! VERY nice! She is a bit thick around the middle, but she is very, very skilled with every part of her body (well, I didn't do any backdoor activity, but that is probably available for the right price).

Geisha is listed on previous reports, 2 blocks from Sears, about 4 or 5 blocks up the street from Howard Johnson hotel. There is a large covered "food court" area with lots of great Mexican "antojitos" style food places. I have eaten there several times, great food, great prices, helps greatly if you speak Spanish, but they have pictures of their food in some of the menus so you can simply point something out.

I wish that mongering was legal in the U.S. But at least it is legal in Mexico! Que Viva Mexico!!! I guess those with enough cash can go to Nevada and pay through the nose for bad treatment at one of the "Ranches" - gotta have that Gringa woman "Wife Experience", right? Some of the best experiences and best treatment I have received from women have been from las bellas putas de Mexico... Bellas, beautiful, not always because they are physically appealing but because they tend to reciprocate based on how you treat them. They are doing this to support their families. If you happen to find one that is doing this to support a drug habit then you are better off selecting one that is using the money for her kids. This is not a judgement call, but safety-wise and GFE-wise you will fare much better with someone who is doing this for a nobler cause than getting her next fix of Perico up her nostrils.

Keep it covered when you head south

If I make it down to Guadalajara I will post to see if anyone else is around. I am bilingual and fluent and aside from mongering I also like buying very fine tequila and I know the location of a major distributor that is the ONLY one now that sells 1000 Agaves in Guadalajara. I had to travel to Michoacan to get that stuff once they stopped selling it in La Playa years ago.

[Anonimo Gdl]

You, I've paid 5000 pesos for a hooker in Mexico. And I've paid 150 pesos. I know a woman who received 500, 000 pesos for a 4 day weekend. She agreed to 120, 000, but her client was generous. I laugh everytime I see you write "don't pay too much because you're ruining it for the rest of us and destroying the sport of mongering. " That makes about as much sense as me telling all my friends not to pay too much for jewelry in Dubai because it will run the price up. Cut out the border towns, and I bet if you take the sum total of everyone on ISG, and then add every gringo who's ever *****d around in Mexico, in total they don't account for 2% of the patrons of Mexican prostitutes. And there's such a variety of hookers available at every price point from dirt cheap to very expensive.

If there were a Mongers Union and every male in Mexico agreed not to pay over 500 pesos, you're not going to start banging Divas for 500 pesos. They'd either sponge off of sugar daddies or go to Spain.

I enjoy your reports, but please consider being a little more enlightened about those who pay higher prices.

tiny 12 you have just hit the nail here, Mou don't worry I guess we are taling about two differnets things here, pussy worth 400-600 pesos always will be worth that, I don't think somebody is goign to be realyy stupid and go to one of those nasty esteticas like mediterraneo and bang one of the fugly girls in there for 1200 pesos, that niche will always be there for you my friend. You should take advantange of the USD-MXP parity right now (13. 9 pesos per usd) you have a really nice leverage right now, unstuck your head out of the slumps and go and score something like alondra or alejandra for 1200 pesos you would really enjoy it and you might never want to go back to the fattys for 400 pesos. If you have never spent 1500-2000 pesos for a girl in the States my guess is you are doing quickies with crystal meth girls for 20 bucks in some nasty alley.

So please be more open to the idea of us paying more than 600 pesos for a girl because there are girls that really worth their weight in pesos, we have girls in Guadalajara or any part of Mexico that migh be expensive even for Elliot Spritzer, theres a huge market of pussy out there my friend and there will always be there something for you. In my case I'm only trying to share and enlighten fellow mongers with my experience with girls within my personal taste and budget of course, I feel comfortable paying 1500-2000 for a girl that fulfills my needs (looks and face mostly) and I'm totally against people like Ramon and Galileas trying to charge 1500-2500 for girls that are worth 800 pesos! Don't let your dick to decide for you when he arrives with the girls, just say no! He always shows up with 3 or 4 girls but none are worth the money he asks for.

[Tiny 12]

In your next trip to Guadalajara, they zapopan or tlaquepaque the best girls of all Mexico you would only find in www.modelosgalilea.com but of 50 girls with real photos, sex-limousine, porno-star and much more.

Petochas, from Anonimo GDL, we know some of the photos on your web site aren't photos of the women that work there. How can we know the woman in the photo is the woman that will show up at our door? If I were to send you a private message and ask if the photos of a particular woman were real, would you let me know? I'm thinking English isn't your first language, so I'll translate,

De los comentarios de un miembro estimado aqui, Anonimo GDL, sabemos que hay fotos en tu sitio de ciertas mujeres que no trabajan por tu agencia. Como podemos saber si la mujer de la foto es la mujer que va a venir? Una sugerencia, si pagaras 19.95 USD para hacerte miembro de International Sex Guide, podriamos comunicar contigo con mensajes privados. Si uno de nosotros pensara en contratar a una chica, el podria comunicar contigo y preguntarte si las fotos de la chica particular son en realidad fotos de esa chica.

[Tiny 12]

Petochas is indeed a pimp, but I don't think he's trying to hide it:

http://www.internationalsexguide.inf...681#post433681

Mou, I've paid 5000 pesos for a hooker in Mexico. And I've paid 150 pesos. I know a woman who received 500,000 pesos for a 4 day weekend. She agreed to 120,000, but her client was generous. I laugh everytime I see you write "don't pay too much because you're ruining it for the rest of us and destroying the sport of mongering." That makes about as much sense as me telling all my friends not to pay too much for jewelry in Dubai because it will run the price up. Cut out the border towns, and I bet if you take the sum total of everyone on ISG, and then add every gringo who's ever *****d around in Mexico, in total they don't account for 2% of the patrons of Mexican prostitutes. And there's such a variety of hookers available at every price point from dirt cheap to very expensive.

If there were a Mongers Union and every male in Mexico agreed not to pay over 500 pesos, you're not going to start banging Divas for 500 pesos. They'd either sponge off of sugar daddies or go to Spain.

I enjoy your reports, but please consider being a little more enlightened about those who pay higher prices.

[Petochas]

In your next trip to Guadalajara, they zapopan or tlaquepaque the best girls of all Mexico you would only find in www.modelosgalilea.com but of 50 girls with real photos, sex-limousine, porno-star and much more.

[Petochas]

Unfortunately for many of you the good hill, all the girls of www.modelosgalilea.com but of 50 girls with real photos, and as you veran you are really beautiful, I do not believe that if you do not have even money you to make the ridiculous one buy ferrari, truth? They can say what they want but good looking that no of you to contracted lately in our agency. I never initiate no aggression if they want to erase of the forum this good to me but she would only be observed the little intelligence and much poor woman of the members that estan angry by my commentary. But as in all sides always it exists the opportunity and variety can choose where to contract at to no we forced it moment to mark itself.

[Saul Espinoza]

poor? I don't think so my friend but just because you have $ would you pay 400 PESO for a Hot Dog? Didn't think so.

If you want to waiste your $ go right ahead but my problem is that you are making these girls think that they can get that kind of $ from the rest of us. You are the one who is destroying the sport of mongering.

Mou, this guy is a pimp or advertising agency. Best bet is gonna be when you get there contact the Coahila guy I told you about based on his posts he is in Guadalajara, and knows his stuff. Whenever you go through an agency like this where there alot of middle men the mark-up is going to be super big because everybody wants their cut. That being said cut out middle men in all dealings and you will find yourself geting your money's worth. Guadalajara is a wonderful place to go. Good women, Good food, good cigars, good tequila, what more can any one ask for? I'd jump on a filght right now in a heartbeat if I could and meet you there, whiel I am not an expert in art of mongering I can get myself around and spea spanish fluently so I can atleast translate for you if all else fails LOL, but business is kinda slow this year and I am going to ride out the hoiliday season and hope it picks up.

[Mou7189]

poor? I don't think so my friend but just because you have $ would you pay 400 PESO for a Hot Dog? Didn't think so.
If you want to waiste your $ go right ahead but my problem is that you are making these girls think that they can get that kind of $ from the rest of us. You are the one who is destroying the sport of mongering.