Guadalajara

[JHS 42]

Going next week. Probably going to be stuck to the area around the airport. Anyone want to give me a ballpark idea on prices so I don't get screwed over?

[Guadalajara Don]

Went to Boom pre-9pm shift change as per recommendation on this site.

Gordos galore. But at least they offered free mosquito bites. Indoors.

Stayed for 1 drink and left before the sift change since according to a report here it gets worse after 9.

Went to the place to the left after but they were just opening. Did not care to stick around.

Approx 1/2 mile south, same side of the highway is "Cadillac Bar". Try it.

[JHS 42]

I'm in JHS' shoes looking for reco's.

Monterrey spoiled me. Not sure where to go in GDL.

Lady at the sex shop suggested.

Portillos Bar.

Chicas Bar.

Juniors.

I know there Juniors info here but anyone have intel on the others?

Any idea where Portillos or Chicas are?

Definitely going to be stuck at the airport hotel before my flight out this next trip, so would be up for exploring. Also, are there any options that would involve getting a girl to come to the hotel there? My limited Mexico experiences have basically been strip-club centric to date.

[TheGuyOverThere]

Went to Boom pre-9pm shift change as per recommendation on this site.

Gordos galore. But at least they offered free mosquito bites. Indoors.

Stayed for 1 drink and left before the sift change since according to a report here it gets worse after 9.

Went to the place to the left after but they were just opening. Did not care to stick around.

[TheGuyOverThere]

I'm in JHS' shoes looking for reco's.

Monterrey spoiled me. Not sure where to go in GDL.

Lady at the sex shop suggested.

Portillos Bar.

Chicas Bar.

Juniors.

I know there Juniors info here but anyone have intel on the others?

[JHS 42]

With the demise of Mexicana, last year I wound up spending lots of nights at the hotel at the GDL airport, because the late flights I used to catch were gone and the next possible option left early the next morning. Generally I sit in the hotel and watch TV, and get work done, but if there was a convenient and relatively safe option nearby, I might be up for other entertainment options. Anybody got any nearby favorites that don't entail a trip into the city?

[Big John 1]

Rains not constant should not affect your trip at all. Bus travel no problem. Try GDL hotel I recommended to you in June.

I'm in a little bit of a bind. I have a ticket for GDL leaving on Sept 6 but I didn't realize that Sept is still considered rainy season. I thought it would be nearing the end of it by then.

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how intense the rain can be and if travel by bus to Mexico City and Acapulco will be as issue?

I've looked online but someone who is actually on the ground would be better suited to answer IMO.

Thanks. Been there all September, GDL, Mexico city, Acapulco, sure some heavy rains but not consatant should be a problem at all with bus travel. Enjoy your trip go GDL hotel I recommended to you!

Artisttyp

[Artisttyp]

I'm in a little bit of a bind. I have a ticket for GDL leaving on Sept 6 but I didn't realize that Sept is still considered rainy season. I thought it would be nearing the end of it by then.

Does anyone have first hand knowledge of how intense the rain can be and if travel by bus to Mexico City and Acapulco will be as issue?

I've looked online but someone who is actually on the ground would be better suited to answer IMO.

Thanks.

Artisttyp

[Strike 69]

For those who can read Spanish this article in Milenio newspaper is an excellent remark of the pseudo puritanism, double moral and hypocrisy that exists in Guadalajara (and Jalisco state) toward sex, high government officials (both male and female) were caught in shameless sex parties and some even were accused (with evidence) of having sex with girls at bars who were minors; using both traffic of influence and abuse of power.

Original article:

http://impreso.milenio.com/node/9008475

Translated English Google version :

http://translate.google.com.mx/trans...node%2F9008475

Those are the very same government officials that condemns prostitution among consenting adults and promote conservative "family values" such sex after marriage only and no use of condoms in sexual relations due religious fanaticism.

Bunch of Hypocrites !!!!

[Gonzo]

I didn't indulge in any non-pro activity. Being Mexico, gringos are not so much an unusual sight. That being said, I hardly saw any non-Mexicans around in my days in GUA, and I did notice the occasional glance from women coming my way, not because I'm so damn pretty, just blue eyed and exotic looking. And I know enough about Mexicanas to know that many prefer a gringo over a local, due to attitudes emerging from the machista culture and all. Happy hunting!

Did you get to do any non pro attempts like going to clubs etc. ? In general what kind of a reaction do women have to foreign men?

Artisttyp

[Artisttyp]

Excellent report. I will put it to use in a few weeks when I go to guadalajara.

Did you get to do any non pro attempts like going to clubs etc. ? In general what kind of a reaction do women have to foreign men?

Artisttyp

[Gonzo]

i'm heading off to puerto vallarta after spending 4 days in guadalajara. a non-monger friend said it was a great destination for cultural sightseeing, more on that later.

since this is a mongering site, let me state for the record (imo) that gua is not a great mongering destination. it is not even two notches below the great places in latino america that i've been to in the recent past. but, as they say, money is the best aphrodisiac, and if you have money, legs will magically pry themselves open for the right price. and gua is no exception, with some bargain basement prices i found.

let me say a few words about gua as a vacation destination. if you want to do some nice sightseeing and get a flavor the history and culture of mexico, book a 3-4 day vacation in downtown gua in the historic centro area. you could fill your days with architectural and museum viewing, interesting shopping (in the largest open air market in latin america, with great food). if you are familiar with diego rivera, the great mural painter of mexico (and husband of frida kahlo. salmita!) , the murals of juan orozco in two buildings downtown are even more amazing (and larger). and you should also check out tlaquepaque, a satellite city in the eastern district that is truly a cool artist colony, a kind of sante fe, nm, but with roving mariachi bands. two thumbs up to the restaurant chai, kitty corner from the holiday inn on avenida juarez. cool, hip place to hangout, have a coffee, chai, snack or full meal at ridiculously low prices. also heard of another nice artisan colony tonala', but didn't make it there.

ok, for those of you have managed to stick thru a whole paragraph without talk of p*ssy, you will now be mildly rewarded. before leaving, i prepared best i could by data mining the sparse posts in this forum. in another post i will do a listing post to sum up the findings wt69 style.

for gua, the 4 main areas of action are 1)"estetica masculinos" 2) independent chicas 3) strip clubs 4) short time hotels with fugly women. an estetica masculino, which should never be mistaken for the feminine kind, is basically a barber shop that sometime in the gua past also turned into a bordello. now follow along: "shave and a blow-job, two bits". some actually still have barbers and some give up on the pretense of metrosexual improvements. they're basically like a colombian casa. for the independents, you can find them in two main places: 1) internet sites 2) the classified of the metro newspaper, readily available at newspaper stands. seems like the strip clubs are clustered either downtown or on the way to airport (seems to be true of many cities).

so here's my experience, which is not much but i'm sure it will be helpful to some. i booked several nights in the avenida juarez holiday inn, a good choice for being close to the historic sightseeing areas, but not a good choice for mongering. the lobby is a long, narrow corridor by which the front desk has a perfect view of who's coming and going with a roving guard guy with a wire coming out of his ear. so i never tried chica delivery service, though some before me have. i suspect that they'll have to sign-in and such, but i didn't want to bother with potential hassles.

estetica #1: mediterraneo.

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the first estetica i went to was mediterraneo. this is on avenida ninos heroes. just locate the hotel mision carlton. the estetica is across the street and about 20 yards to the left (west). big sign for the place, nestled between 2 rental car places. i went in on a sunday and was greeted by a stocky but 5. 5 pretty young lady. of course, i asked to see a lineup, and the women were fairly ordinary looking. but then a cute little spinner suddenly appeared and i said to myself,"who she?". she was angie, a 4'11'.41 kg cutie. think a mixture of chick in a girl band and a hentai girl, latina style. she had bangs with long hair and colored the top of her head gray, and somehow it worked, because was pretty enough. she also had blue-gray eyes, very rare in mexico. she took me upstairs to the room and asked me to pay the bill, which is 540 pesos. before you go running to oanda. com, that is 45 dollars. for that kind of price, i kept my expectation low, but angie went beyond 45 bucks worth. firstly she has a cute little spinner body, and despite having one baby she has a *flat* stomach. permit me a sec to rant about the epidemic of fat women or women with substantial "panzitas" or "barrigas" in mexico, what we call a gut. god, it's awful and not only painful to the eyes, it's unhealthy. in any case, the flat belly and big nipples were a nice plus for angie. i thought she was very excited when i saw the nips, but no, she just has really big nipples for a spinner.

in any case, after the lame, perfunctory massage we got down to business. she did give me a cbj, but the tongue piercing, as well as tongue skill, made it better than expected. she at first didn't like me going near the y, claiming cosquillas / tickles, but i went real slow and suave and she eventually relented. she was playful during s*x, and offered different positions. the one big bummer was that the room had no ventilation and was like an oven, and i thought i had better finish this before i pass out, so i got her in doggy, put one hand on one shoulder another on a nalga, and used her like a large organic s*x toy. job complete. after a shower, and serenade to her of the rolling stones angie ("you can say we're satisifiiiyed") , which she knew, i gave her a big tip, and she was so happy about it, she said both gracias and zenk yu and gave me a beautiful ending smile. i walked back out into the bright gua sun happy and blown away that i just paid a mere 45 clams for so much fun with a cute 6-7 spinner.

strip club: titanic blue.

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from both internet searching and actual leg work, i located three strip clubs within walking distance of my holiday inn: 1) titanic blue on ramon colon 2) kristal, on the street "16th of september", right next to the teatro diana 3) lipstick: on calzada independencia norte. 83-a, just one block north of hidalgo, on the west side of the street. ballons decorate the entrance. (note: hidalgo / republica is the demarcation line between independencia norte and sur.)

one night, against my better judgment, and to satisfy my curiosity, i walked to titanic blue, which is south of avenida juarez on ramon colon. it was 11:30pm and the streets were empty, but i did not feel unsafe in the area. as soon as i stepped in, i was already getting annoyed. when you're the only gringo on a weeknight, you're sure to be a target for all sorts of upselling, getting nailed to a particular chica, etc. after getting frisked (and missing the navaja / knife in my left pants pocket) , i was shown to a table. an admittingly cute chica was in the final stages of taking all of her clothes on stage amidst the loud, thumping music. several groups of mexican dudes were around enjoying the view and of course, nothing more. i was told there was a two beer minimum of 6 bucks each. no sooner than 3 minutes go by when they plop a chica in my lap. now, some days when i'm home alone and the thought of a 6-7 level chica is rubbing her soft butt into my chest, it would be a nice fantasy, but the reality of the hard sell was having the opposite effect. not only that, her breath was lousy and she was blocking my view of another chica totally naked rubbing her exposed y up and down the pole (natural greasing?). the mexican guys loved it. my chica was named naomi, and she seemed to have blue eyes also (i asked her about colored contacts and she said no) , and was kinda cute, but she and a pushy waiter were trying to get me to go upstairs for a private showing and of course, mas dinero to be spent. finally, when it was naomi's turn to dance, i bolted to the door, paid for my 2 beers (and 1 for her) , and got the hell out of there. who knows, if i was hornier or i followed thru with naomi upstairs, it all would have been fine, but it wasn't that night for me. as they say, your mileage may vary. but i certainly saved myself a lot of bucks that night.

estetica [CodeWord123].

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first, a quick rant. although gringos do go to this place, it is mostly for rich guadalajaran businessmen (busy time post 6pm according to my chica). but still a little due-diligence on the name please! feels strange going to a place with a name with such negative connotations, and would be as weird as a brothel in the usa named violacion. but for the record, it is mexico, the word has no special meaning there, and it has a spanish pronunciation, which is "rah-pay".

important info, the address: 2934 lazardo cardenas, jardin de bosque, gua. do a google map search on it and you will find a nice picture of it. almost directly across this very busy highway is the estetica high class, which in contrast to [CodeWord123], is very easy to find, because its building is painted in red with giant "high class" lettering. [CodeWord123]'s location is much more subtle. it is on the access road and the building is slightly back from the road, and as such, there's a parking lot in front. perfect location for the businessman that doesn't want to be seen.

another note: it is just past a little traffic circle on the access road and be careful of the numbering on the houses. my taxi driver had a hard time finding it (on the side, when i hopped in the cab, i noticed an unusually excessive number of rosaries and jesus pix, and thought i would get a negative vibe from him, but as i got out of the taxi, he slyly smiled at me and said 'suerte! '. hombres son hombres, no?).

[CodeWord123] is really a nice looking place, and it is really an estetica, with a beautiful, tastefully appointed lobby and a real barber shop in the first room past the lobby. poor barber guy, probably doesn't have much work during the day. anyway, the nice helper lady led me to a large room with a solid, from the floor, built-in massage table with a sauna and shower. she asked me if i wanted i sauna and i responded that the afternoon summer sun in gua already was enough of a sauna. so she told me to prepare for a lineup, and it was quite a lineup. all 30 women who work there were available at 4pm on a tuesday, and a dazzling display of feminine beauty from 6-8. 5 (always subjective, of course). i was parked in the doorway of my room surrounded by 30 dolled up women in a semi-circle waiting for me to choose. i made a joke, like "so much beauty that i'm dazzled", and watched what the reaction was. strangely enough i found myself saying "la primera", the first woman who came by to say hello, in the lineup, amelia, a 23 yr old hottie, gorgeous face, nice bod, long jet-black hair.

it didn't dawn on me till about 5 minutes later that i realized i just picked a woman who looked just like a medellin paisa. for latinas, they're a gold standard, no? in any case, it became apparent that the beauty <- service correlation was going to be in full force here, lots more rules, no daty, heaven forbid i mess her makeup, etc. quite a contrast to the humble and grateful angie at mediterraneo. but in the end, having her in doggie, and pounding this beautiful young creature is still better than a good day at the office, no? it was enough to finish me off. the damage was 1200 pesos (100 dollars). first and last time with amelia, but would i go back to [CodeWord123] again? abso-frickin-lutely. the key is to get there when the gua businessmen are all working, and the best lookers are available. if you can't find something that you like in that lineup, as least in the looks department, then you shouldn't be mongering in gua.

short time hotels.

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if you walked around the neighborhood where calzada independencia and hidalgo / republic meet, there are several short time hotels on independencia and on one or two sidestreets. the ladies are in the doorways or in the lobbies waiting and i could see them as i slowly walked by in the late afternoon. nothing that i would pay for and to be honest, not many for whom i do for free if i had the chance. but of course there's always diamonds in the rough, just didn't see any for those moments i passed by.

[Artisttyp]

I found on an earlier post about a place to go with women for gdl. Its located on calle 52 between alvaro obregon and 12 de julio. I would NOT recommend going there at night. When I got there in the cab, the cab driver told me be careful because its a dangerous area. And when he said that I told him just to take me back to my hotel, I did not feel like watching my back and worrying about someone trying to get me. So I went home and went to bed by myself.

Another good post. What do you mean by " a place to go with women for gdl?" What does gdl refer to and is this a street walker scene or what did you understand the set up to be?

Thanks

[Artisttyp]

Surprisingly Then I went on the internet to see if I could find what the locals are saying about the esteticas masculinas here. I find a blog dedicated to discussing the esteticas, I come across a price that says 350 pesos for completo. I have to check it out. So I write down the address hop in a cab and go to the location.

Thank you for writing such detailed reports. I am currently gathering information for my upcoming trip. Can you please give us the url for the blog you were on? The places you describe sound like my type of scene.

You should also sign up as a senior member. It seems like you have a lot to offer.

Thanks Again,

Artisttyp

[Artisttyp]

just completed my first 6 days, luckily a couple of more weeks to go! this city is fun as hell if you know where to go. i like to hit an esthetica as often as possible, and i really dig the street scene. it's nice to know you can get action 24/7. i did peek in to the doorways of other st hotels while walking around and the girls were nasty. but at the other main street areas mentioned in the forum, the girls are better than i expected (you do have to sometimes wait for the 'changing of the guard' so to speak for hot ones to come about). the whole "won't take their tops off" thing i noticed depends on the time of day you go. if i hit the streets at night, everything seems to be fair game for the equivalent of us$20. during the day (which is actually my favorite time to go) not so much. gdl food is freakin great, but heavy and i tend to get sleep around 9m lmao! dating non-pros seems to be pretty easy here. but why bother with the hassle of trying to leave them.

artisttyp, where are you staying?

sounds great. i look forward to the food just as much as the sex. i won't be arriving until september but i welcome any advice you have to offer.

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