Guadalajara

[World Wise]

I agree with Marty 2. I have now visited GDL three times in the past two years, and my Spanish vocabulary can be counted with two hands.

Visits to Esteticas have worked best for me. I have no trouble explaining what I am interested in, and the selection of sweethearts is always reasonable. There are many MPs to chose from, and I have no problem walking out if I don't like the selection available! I fomerly went to High Class, but after they raised their prices, I have visited several others in the neighborhood north of the Sears store. I have never paid more that 500 P, and always come away happy.

[Marty 2]

El Aleman,

What a nightmare! I think it is time to change your technigues and tactics. There are countless Esteticas that employ young, beautiful, eager to please girls.Ask any cabbie in town - he will be more than happy to show you many! Simply driving the main Avenues will reveal many if you don't like cabbies.

Prices range from 450 pesos to 1000 pesos. You will have your choice of Chicas. Pick one that suits your taste, and she will do nearly anything that pleases you. They are trained to make you happy. Paying over 800 pesos is a waste, the best girls do not necessarily cost the most. Propinas are optional, and for all our benefit, give only when exceptional service has been rendered.

There are five times as many Men's Club's as there are Esteticas. Some are huge clip joints, some employ only Gorditas, but many are a barrel of fun. Be patient and not afraid to walk out and move on to the next joint. You can indulge on site or make arrangements for another time as you please. There are many, many beautiful Chicas to be had. 90% of the time you will be able make your deal with them without an intermediary.

Have fun and good hunting.

[Country John]

El Aleman, so sorry you had a bad experience in GDL. It can be a tough town to crack but you are right, there are some gems to be found.

My tact in a place like that is to bar hop. Get an early start and keep the drinking down, don't overload or you won't make it through the night to enjoy the sex.

I do this because the girls who are WORKING are probably working the clubs. Outcall means taking some chica away from her family or work to come by the room. some are just getting out of bed, some are enroute to a club etc. You get my drift.

For a few bucks you can hire a taxi for the evening to shuttle you around and you can change cabs if you think you are getting ripped.

Hopefully next time you'll have a better experience. I left my heart in Guadalajara.

Country John

[World Wise]

Is there ANY ACTIVITY of a mongering nature in the Lake Chapala area? I have had good luck several times in the GDL, but never had any good luck lakeside. Best I can report is a bored housewife type that I picked up at a bar near Chapala Country Club last November. But I have never found any commericial activity in any of the lakeside communities. Anyone else?

[El Aleman]

During a recent 3 day business trip to Guadalajara, I considered it my duty towards the members of this forum to do some basic research about topics concerning our hobby ? the posts of the last half year lack some hard information. To be frank, own experience during these days was limited, but I think I can present valuable reference material that probably make things easier to my successors. The reference section of this post might get amended a few days after the initial post, when I am back home, so check in again.

Preface: I am spoilt. My standards are set by top class German FKK?s like Palace or Schieferhof, and by the lovely chicas of Buenos Aires. Both quality- and pricewise. Concerning the latter, U$S 250,- buy 1.5 hours in the FKK?s, including admission, or 3 to 4 very satisfying sessions in Argentina. All prices mentioned in this report are in US ? Dollars. More preface, I speak spanish, far from fluent, but enough to take me through several Buenos Aires dinners with an extremly juicy dessert.

Preparing my trip, I started by collecting information on the Net. It is quite easy to find a few escort sites in Mexico, but unfortunately 99.9% of the ads in these sites are for Mexico city. Some have sections for other cities, for example Preciosas, but the entries for Guadalajara are, politely said, of overseeable quantity.

Googleing ?escorts guadalajara? results besides the usual spam 2 sites, chicasmg and modelosgalilea. The layout of these sites is so similar that I suppose it might be the same agency behind it ? they ARE agencies, not a site of individually advertising independent girls. Deeper net research puts out a few more, i.e. venecia and tapatias, and a few independent girls. To be mentioned is directorio, a search engine that can be fed among other criteria with a city name. The database behind it may however be outdated, many of the links in search results led into digital nirwana.

I sent emails to about 6 girls and got 3 responses. Seemed to be a decent score, and armed with that and some downloads on the laptop I arrived in GDL.

Day1:
Decided not to use one of my email results, but to get Naomi flom venecia instead. Called, a guy speaking very understandable spanish answered and told that he was making the appointments of Naomi, and, yes, she would be available, It would, however, not be easy to get through security of my hotel. I gave my room number. 5 min. later, he called back, to confirm. 15 min later another guy with nuch less ujnderstandable spanish called, talked a lot, and I destilled out of that, that they would be coming. 15 more minutes later, a knock at my door, and the pimp asked me to come downstairs to have a look.

Look: either (5% probability) Naomi ate far too many tacos since the pictures on the website have been taken, or (95%) plain bait and switch. I agreed anyway, up we went and started the desaster of my life. Undressed, she laid on the bed and passively waited what to happen. No kisses, not much caressing, a hint of a CBJ, cowgirl, whatever was left of my woody went away. Venecia not to be recommended.

What I did do on day one was call my favourite email result, lardiente. Her website sounds a bit semi ? pro, and lets expect a GFE, and in the mail she asked for a day?s advance notice. Reached her, and agreeds that I would call the next day arounf 7 pm to set up details.

Day2:
At 7, I called lardiente. She answered the phone, and we agreed to meet that night. I told her in which hotel I stayed, and she did not know it. Asked for a street address. The notepad besides the hotel phone had only a PO Box. I wanted to f**k on my bed, not a box. Went on searching for the f**king address. Suddenly, the phone went dead. No big deal, happens sometimes with cellphones. Since then I tried to call her every 5 minutes while not working or sleeping, and always got the message that the number called would be temporarily not available, and I would be suggested to try later?.

After about an hour, when I could repeat the message in spanish backwards, I started to call backups. No. 2 of my email canidates answered. According to the background noise, she was in heavy combat with some video game. She knew my hotel, but decided that it was way too far ($ 7,- taxi from downtown) and went on shooting.

After another hour of listening to at least 6 varieties of the ?not available? message ? one per cellphone service provider - I decided to try one of the agencies and called chicasmg. After some discussion with the girl who answered the phone (which girl is is available ? almost everyone ? girl no. 35 ? oh, unfortunately not?..) she decided to get someone who speaks english. This apparently invoked Gringo pricing. I got a quote of $ 230,- which I declined.

I called it a day (or, better, night) and went to bed unf***ed.

Day 3:
Lardiente?s cellphone seems to be in need of major repair. The different backup?s also. I had no desire to add to my collection of ?not available? messages, and took the phone book, Yellow Pages. Under ?esteticas masculinas? (Yes, in Guadalajara brothels are disguised as barber shops, maybe you really can get a hair cut) I found one called ?Thailand?, over which I already had stumbled on the net, with a really nice ad promising the most beautiful girls for the distinguishing gentleman, and at least 10 cities where they would be, and an address, ?installations open 24 hrs?.

Took a taxi, went there. Unmarked building, inside - a barber shop, including the chairs. A middle aged woman, who was a bad example of the result of ungoing abuse of mexican food, took me upstairs into a room with a massage table, a jacuzzi, and a shower and exlained the price structure. I asked her to see the girls. 3 of them presented themselves, rated between 2 and 4. I took the 4, full service, $ 80,-. What happened was a decent massage, CBJ, and cowgirl. The distinguishin gentleman in me, who had expected a selection of maybe 20 chicas ranged 6 to 9 to enjoy on premises or take out remained a bit unsatisfied.

Bottom line:
My opinion: Guadalajara is NOT a mongering destination. Maybe there are gems to be found, but I just did not find them.

Day 4:
I am on a flight to Mexico City. There might be more in that section.


Reference:

First, the various websites mentioned in the text above:
Preciosas: www.preciosasxxx.com - a site with escort ads, mainly Mexico City
Chicasmg: www.chicasmg.com escort agency in Guadalajara
Modelosgalilea: www.modelosgalilea.com - dto.
Venecia: www.veneciagdl.com - dto.
Tapatias: http://tapatias.20m.com dto
Directorio: http://bd.servicio-x.com A searchable database of providers in Mexico
Lardiente: link comes soon


Straight out of Guadalajara?s Yellow Pages, unverified:

www.misensación.com
www.plebeyas.com
www.intimoo.com

[Country John]

DanTheMan and I are planning AlleyKat 53 in Guadalajara. How is the weather? I'll be seeing my all time fav the FABULOUS Kenia. A true princess. A real beauty. She stole my heart. I can't wait. I'm giggling like a silly child.

Country John

[Country John]

DanTheMan and I are planning AlleyKat 53 in Guadalajara. How is the weather? I'll be seeing my all time fav the FABULOUS Kenia. A true princess. A real beauty. She stole my heart. I can't wait. I'm giggling like a silly child.

Country John

[Fuzz Nutts II]

Thanks Maloso,

I am trying to plan a (driving) trip there next month. Still much to consider. Safety being on the top of the list. But this was one place I had heard about. I met a girl in Mexicali who works at this bar in Guada. I'm sure there are a few I will learn about. I just hope this is worth the trip. I'm planning on staying there about a week or so.

Thanks for the info.

[Maloso1]

Fuzz,

Went to Ramses about 5 years ago, nothing special, typical chica/strip club where you can take the girl out for about 1K pesos.

BTW, I'll be in Guad in a couple of weeks and of will be heading to my fav MP's
Jet City & World Mens, but wanted to try other places, looking for any recomendations, names/directions.

Thanks,

Maloso

[Fuzz Nutts II]

Can anyone comment on a club called ramses? I don't know if they allow this here, but there web site is www.tabledance.com.mx/php/clientes.php?id=24
I found this place surfing around. Just thought someone might have some info on it.

[Fuzz Nutts II]

I'm trying to find one chica in GDL Megan, 25, big tatoo on her belly.

Any help?

Thanks

[Country John]

My experience in GDL is that every hotel is girl friendly if you handle it right. To have the girl show up unannounced or unescorted is a mistake especially if you are in a strange land.

Upon check in, tell them that your girlfriend is arriving later and when she does you will meet her in the lobby, and you will call from your room with her name etc.

Meet the security guys, shake their hand, say hello and tell them the same thing. It only takes a minute and it's a good idea anyway.

If you are ordering out, get a name to give the front desk people. When she arrives she will call you. That's protocol. They don't like letting girls go up the elevator alone.

When you go to the lobby they will NOT hassle you or the girl if you are cool. Now they know the real story, you are just taking the matter in hand so they don't have to interrogate the girl or worry about who she is. If they give you a hard time, tell them to check you OUT. I've done this and it works.

Bone is Hard did not overspend. He would have easily spent more at a club buying ficha drinks, paying a bar fine etc. He actually saved a few bucks so WELL DONE based on your trip report.

I find Mexico different from other places in that they expect you to behave yourself and act with dignity and respect. When you don't do this, are an asshole or some other kind of undesirable they will tend to "clip your wings."

This is more the case at the nicer hotels. The 2 stars could care less in most cases.

When you act as though you know what you're doing they are less likely to worry about you getting strung up in your room by some criminal chica, or getting ripped off after you leave the hotel.

Having a chica come to your room discreetly is nothing new in Mexico. It's how you handle it and how you behave that will determine what kind of treatment you'll receive. Try it next time. You might be surprised.

Country John

[Sunny Kalla]

I have been searching the whole forum for information regarding girl-friendly hotels in Guadalajara and mexico city without much success ! Can anyone help ?

Regards,

Sunny Kalla

[Bone is Hard]

No I dont work for the agency as you can see my post from many places all over the world for the past 3-4 years. You dont become a senior member by working for some agency. Read the rules of the forum.

And it's not unusual to pay that much money for top shelf escorts in Mexico.

Bone

[Ngp477]

was that 250 pesos or $250 US dollars! I cannot believe you paid that much in dollars! You must work for the agency.