Guadalajara

[Prokofiev]

Falcon,
I would recommend that you begin learning Spanish before you go to Mexico. It is a long term process and will strongly affect how you feel about the country. Before learning any Spanish I enjoyed a trip to Mexico, but never would have considered a move there. After 5 years of study I'm just begining to get a feel for the language. It has opened a new world. It would seem that you are around 40? You will find that much younger mexican women - 10 to 15 years younger- will consider you as a mate, if you have a little class and a little money. Treat the ladies with respect and you will be seen as a great catch. - P

[Easy Rider]

Originally posted by Prokofiev
[i]Gpiper!

You broke every rule in the book! Fighting with the local bouncers? Only 1 condom? Passed out drunk with a girl in your room at 6am with your wallet out? Ouch!! This time think with the BIG head, for your own sake.

Easyrider horn dog rule no. 29.....Never, ever, ever, argue with a bouncer. If they are rippin you off, politely object, go ask for the manager, but basically get the fuck out of there, and don't come back.

Never, ever, start shit in a titty joint. You might be bigger than that bouncer, but my bet is he can tear your head off faster than you can say Ahhhyy Chihuahua.

Consider yourself lucky......

[Falcon127]

montes:

You need to settle down and pace yourself. I did 20 years in the US Military and I'm still kick'n and in pretty good health due to a paced life style. This does not mean I don't like to have fun, I do. I did things I never dreamed of while in the Military. I too would love to spend some time in Guad., learn Spanish and investigate the possibilities of retiring there in the future.

What are your comments/ideas?

Falcon

[montes]

Gpiper: I've been back in the US for a few months now. Triying to re-establish my life here has been very difficult. I was gone for almost 3 years, came back broke, and also with some health issues do to poor surgery procedures in Puerto Vallarta's CMQ....and a very reckless lifestyle....the average 21-24 type of lyfestyle.....
I am trying to set up a cleaning business here in the US, but I am taking my time, no hurry. I figure my health comes first. As far as what business I want to set up in Mexico, well it can be a variety of things. I have a lot of hook-ups and know a large number of people who are business minded. Plus most of my family members are profesionals down there, Doctors, Accountants, lawyers, shit like that...basically what I want is the cash... A large sum...100G comes out to be about a Million in pesos, I can pretty much set up anything I want...a few uncles and cousins are business owners and live life 100 times better and much happier, than those who live in the US...plus they dont have to deal with the stress of every day life that builds up in the US...every week end they are able to get away.... come back on monday and the business is in tact...they pay their employees, at times double or triple the amount an average person can make in GDL...keeping them happy....

[Gpiper]

Montes,
I take it you're living in the Us now? Hope you don't mind me getting invasive, but what kind of work are you doing now and what kind of business do you plan on running eventually in Mexico?...Liked your idea of working in US and saving 100G over next few years to bring to Mexico and really enjoy the life down there. So does this mean you won't be taking any more trips to GDL or anywhere else in Mexico the next few years?..I may decide to stay in Us and do the same..make some good money the next few years and save, and during that time jet down to Mexico for some R and R ( 7-10 days each trip of strip clubs, esteticas, and outcall service!)maybe twice per year until i'm ready for a more permanent move. Besides teaching or tutoring english can be a grind in the long haul. i almost got burnt out on it after just a few months of tutoring back in '99!..Piper out.

[montes]

Gpiper: good for you that you can pass as someone whose 26 years old. Not many people have the benefit of looking young for ever. Aguas Calientes is a fairly safe city. So I am not surprised that people can walk around and feel safe. Dont get too comfortable in big cities. Guadalajara is not as safe as you may think...Mexico city is even worse. Just because you dont see, or hear about crime and corruption in a personal way does not mean it doesn't exist.. Just be careful. By the way, excellent salary your friend was making, not very common in mexico. Only a fortunate few can make a decent amount of money teaching English, specially with such small amount of hours. Other schools you can attend in GDL are Berlitz, Quick Learning, Boston Language Institute, and you will find many more in the Yellow Pages, however, I am not sure on the salary.... Women are always approachable in Mexico, as long as you are a complete gentleman, you will always have lady friends. Hopefully one day I can return to GDL and teach, I really do enjoy it. But first I need to save a large quantaty of money because I also have a business that needs to be taken care of in Mexico. I want to retire by the age of thirty. Live comfortable off my business, and teach English on the side....got six years to see what happens... good luck to all, keep in touch...

[Gpiper]

Montes,
thanks for the info! i think i'll pass on IMAC. Pay sounds lousy, as well as hours. Plus, i don't want anyone looking over my back when i'm trying to line up legal age poo-tang!..Anyway, if you hear of any other schools hiring anywhere in Mexico, let me know. By ther way, i had a friend who taught ESL in 99 at a school in AGS. It was grades k-8. He was at the school 5.5 hrs. a day, and only had to teach 4hrs. for a total of 20hrs., mon.-fri. He made 6500 pesos a month and made $5Us pr. hr. after school, tutoring 2 hrs. at the kids homes. He had no college dgree or tefl cert. He said they (the school), were real nice to him at first also. But the lady principal turned out to be a 2 faced ***** and screwed him over 3 months later; among other things, they wouldn't fix his apt. problems they had promised to take care of. He split soon after...As far as meeting women if i teach down in mexico, I don't anticipate many problems. Though i'm caucasian and a little older , my spanish is descent, and many girls there have said i look puerto rican, and can pass for 26...anyway, are you thinking of teacing in Mexico again??..As far as your earlier caption about safety in GDL. I was surprised to hear that. I was only there 1 nite in '99, but can honestly say that during my few months in AGS., i never felt more safe. It was common to see young school-girls walking home or to a friends home in town alone at nite by themselves at 1am, with no fear in the world. Me not being shy, I actually met a few this way! They were approachable at all times.

[montes]

gpiper:
Imac is an ok place to work. The pay really isnt good, but it just depends on how much you depend on your money. I worked there for a while until I was asked to leave the school because 90 percent of the time I was chasing tail...The girls are young, you will find few over 25. The administrators will be nice to you in the beggining, they will make you feel as YOU are their most valuable asset, but soon they will start fucking you over... Pay starts at 30 pesos an hour, about 2.50 USD, you will not get 8 hours of pay, but you will be requiered to be there all day, from about 8am to 9pm, with a few hours of rest in the afternoon...I am 24 now, I was 22-23 while working there, I did have a lot of girls on my back, from 18 to 23... I am hispanic, so that helped me alot, few girls are fond of older american males, at least from what i saw...but then again, many girls are looking for a way to reach the "American Dream" I did meet an american teacher while working at Imac, he was dating a 17 year old girl, which is a big NO NO... Girls must be over 18, thats the age of consent as well as the age in which they are consider adults. This girl got sprung on him, and he couldnt find a way to tell her, he basically got what he wanted from her, I dont know what happened at the end because soon I was fired as well, again, the administration keeps a very close eye on you. If they find out, or have any reason to think you are chasing ass, they will toss you out. Any one can teach at IMAC, regardless of credentials ...give it a shot, personally I dont think you'll like it. very demanding, very time consuming, alot of overtime hours, for very little pay... if you do get in, let me know...Word of advice, be careful with Cesar Vallejo, and Mrs. Ballesteros, dont ever let them see you talk to a girl....good luck

[Gpiper]

prokofiev,
thanks for the advice. i did try the same thing up here in us at tootsies cabaret the other day. dropped $250 on lap dances and drinks for a beautiful dominican girl who kept stuffing her pussy in front of my face in the private both and kept telling me how she would love to have sex with me and sleep with me at my place if i would come back at 4 am to pick her up, buy her breakfast and then drive her back later in the morning. of course i showed up, waited another hour for her to tell me that she forgot she had school in the morning. i was furious at the *****, and it took 2 huge, juiced up bouncers to persuade me to leave. i went home dry, sober, frustrated, and another $250 in the hole! i obviously haven't learned my lesson here....anyway, i'm gearing up for a big return to mexico soon. don't know if my stay will be for a few weeks or for upwards of a year. last down there in 99 when i was working and living in aguascalientes as an english tutor. chicks were super friendly and approachable. i had 3 steady girlfriends the whole time there, unlike the states where i had barely bagged a date the previous few months. the girls were quite religious, but not when it came to putting out. unfortunately ags. was a boring ass town with nothing to do, and i returned to us after a few months. anyway, i'm thinking of teaching in mexico again, possibly gdl. i'm getting a tefl certificate this summer, and will be wrapping up my masters degree in exercise and sport science here in florida in august. are there mostly 16-20 yr,olds at imac? are the majority **** or at least legal age? are they very friendly and sociable? i prefer my ladies between 18-25, but do not know the age laws down there. do you know if they're looking for teachers and pay well for someone with my qualifications? if i can't nail a good paying job up here right after graduation, i may lengthen my 'vacation' down there.

[Prokofiev]

Gpiper!

You broke every rule in the book! Fighting with the local bouncers? Only 1 condom? Passed out drunk with a girl in your room at 6am with your wallet out? Ouch!! This time think with the BIG head, for your own sake. Lipstick is a bit of a rip-off in my book. You could do the same thing in any big US city strip club. And you will find the prices are quite a bit more now than you quote from 3 years ago. Try the esteticas and get laid at 8 pm instead of 6 am and at 25% of the cost.

[Gpiper]

To: Falcon,Prokofiev, Montes, and Steve,
My 1st post! Will be going back to GDL in about 3 months. Was there for 1 nite, almost 3 yrs. ago. Went to Lipstick-girls were between 4-6 scale until about 11pm when they all turned into 7-9s. unfortunately i was told from the 1st chic that i had to tip the bouncer $5 for each $7 lap dance. I got pissed and made a stink, as i was probably bigger than the bouncer. Cooler heads prevailed. I proceeded to sample 3 more 8s and 2- 9's. One of the 9's (Jacqueline)had me meet her at 5am, which i did. During the lap dances at the club, she was jamming her toungue down my throat and told me to meet her at 5am at lipsticks, she would come to my hotel and give me FS and sleep with me for $50 plus taxi fare. I really thought she liked me. I arrived at 5am, and then had to wait an additional hour in the taxi before she came out. She then came back to my hotel. don't remember the name. I had 1 condom, which she broke while trying to apply. I had none left. She pleaded for me not to have IC with her, but i did get BBJ. Unfortunately, i passed out and when i woke up the next day she was gone with a lot more than than the $45 we had agreed on. At least she left me with my wallet, albeit no cash.

[Falcon127]

Montes, Prokofiev, others
Thanks for all the info.

My point is I am trying to get educated on how far US currency will go in Mexico, I have only been to boarder towns. I need Montes to meet me in GDL and give me a tour.

Well here are some web sites on Mexico/Guadalajara that may interest some.

Air Fare
http://www.flycheapol.com/

Education
University of Guadalajara http://www.udg.mx/
Monterray Tech http://www.tecdemonterrey.edu.mx/

Language Schools
U of G http://www.cepe.udg.mx/
IMAC http://www.spanish-school.com.mx/
Spanish Language School http://www.spanishlanguageinstitute.com/
TEFL http://www.teflcertificatecourses.com/

Guadalajara Resources
http://www.ciudadfutura.net/
http://www.guadalajarareporter.com/
http://www.mexconnect.com/

Real Estate
http://www.ajijicdevs.com/
http://www.mexconnect.com/amex/rmxa/index.html

Take Care

Falcon

[Prokofiev]

Hi Montes,

"I was asked to leave IMAC because during the time I worked there my supervisor had a problem with me being friendly, courteus and simply too talkative.... " I think what you probably mean is you spent the whole day chasing tail and trying to get laid! ...But you are absolutely correct that people in Mexico are friendlier and more easy-going than in the U.S. On the surface, Mexican society appears a bit more formal, more polite and more structured. But just below the surface, people are very warm, friendly, generous and willing to let you into their lives at a level that is rare in the US. Great hospitality! It seems to me that as an American, I have to prove my intentions are sincere and then ...watch out! Some of the warmest and sweetest women in the world ...

The IMAC school was very enjoyable with several hundred cute chicas learning English. But most are very young, 16-20 or younger. I need a girlfriend in the 28-40 range and hence the staff was more appealing. Language schools are a great way to meet women, whether in Mexico or the US.

As for crime in Mexico, I haven't found any and I feel MUCH safer in Guadalajara than here in the US. Of couse bad things can happen everywhere and I don't want to imply that Guadalajara is completely safe. I'm sure it isn't. But overall, most Americans have an irrational fear of Mexican crime that has no basis.
-P

[montes]

prokofiev:
chances are I dated the same teacher you did. I was asked to leave IMAC because during the time I worked there my supervisor had a problem with me being friedly, courteus and simply too talkative.... My time there was very memorable, I was able to develop a very close relationship with my co-workers and my students, and I mean very close. It might have been unprofesional, but I was not in it for the profesion, I was there to meet new friends...I dont know if your opinion or your experience is the same as mine, but I feel that the people overall are friendly and willing to make new friends....their personality is easy going and the envirorment is not as intense, or the people as upthight as it may be in the US...I could be wrong, but thats just the experience I lived...

[montes]

Falcon:

With that type of money, you can own guadalajara. Well, for about an hour or so, because very soon, and very likely, chances are you would be kidnapped, and held for ramson. And very likely even if your ramson was paid, you would cease to exist.
When I lived in GDL, it was not out of the ordinary to hear of "gringos" being robbed and at times murdered...even for a wrist watch... my intentions are not to scare you, just the reality of a 3rd world country... if you go down there, do not try to impress any body with money. Not a good idea, specially if they know or it's obious that you reside in the US. Keep a low profile, I myself being mexican, having being raised in the US, but in constant communication with friends and family, and knowing how the show goes in mexico got robbed of 5000 USD.... And I am no wimp or idiot I I know my way around...I got family, friends, a house, but people need money, and at times they will do anything to get it... Some of the girls at the massage parlors are students, but there's very little funds to pay for school in mexico. A girl can work as a secretary and have to deal with long hours of work, sexual harrasment and all types of bullshit for 200 USD a month, or she can scew for a living and make 200 USD a day... Most of the girls actually do have goals, and dreams, few are in it for the love of it, most are in it for the need of it (money). Please even if they are SEX WORKERS, be a getleman and treat the ladies with respect....I love women, but I love mexican woman above all....