Seeking Arrangement- SA- in India

[Christmas Tre]

These are very relevant observations and what has spoilt SA. The membership fee is particularly high in India, because we do not earn in $ and the ratio of women here is a lot worse than in the US. However, the fee acts as a filter. It will only attract the top 1% of men and that attracts the kind of girl we are ideally looking for. Cheap guys drive out the classy girls who do not want to receive TG messages from unknown guys. This is turn attract the cheap girls, who get a premium from being on SA, compared to working with local pimp.

That leaves, Dynamicbelle, MysticalDimple & Femininehottie.

Add another 20 potentially good profiles in the previous 6 months. All have been discussed here.

There are about 60 paid and active members in Bangalore (a ladyfriend on SA shares her inbox) competing for about 30 girls.
When one starts sharing TG ID's with unknown people, this ratio is further skewed and prices shoot up for all of us.

To clarify, I do share notes with other members (whose sub may be just over), because we are not adding to demand, or if someone is not my type, but may be happy to hear from another member.

Correctly said Phil50. There are small dynamics at play here. Yesterday's girl was willing to talk and laugh about SA, so it was enlightening to get her perspective. I will continue to probe the girls, with not just my member. .

1) Regular girls do not like being rushed and haggled down a lot. Their defensive mechanism would be to raise their price to GPS in the hope of filtering out people looking for a budget fuck. Therefore what used to be 15-20 K has gone to 35 K and beyond. The GPS who can successfully be negotiated with fall into this category.

2) The hookers and pimps automatically then throng the site because even a slight premium of 4-5 K extra for them is actually 50% better pay than usual. Hence you see hookers now doing their best to project themselves as regular girls with a job. Ex. Office jobs, make up artist, sales girl etc. Getting hard to figure out who is who!

It is a delicately balanced system. Us old timers who have seen the golden days of SA pretty much know that it is gone.

[FunForSandy]

These are very relevant observations and what has spoilt SA. The membership fee is particularly high in India, because we do not earn in $ and the ratio of women here is a lot worse than in the US. However, the fee acts as a filter. It will only attract the top 1% of men and that attracts the kind of girl we are ideally looking for. Cheap guys drive out the classy girls who do not want to receive TG messages from unknown guys. This is turn attract the cheap girls, who get a premium from being on SA, compared to working with local pimp.

There are 87 girls who joined SA in the past month (more if you count those who deleted profiles shortly after they were made). In 2020, this averaged 50-55 girls per month, so that is the good news. However: Most of the 87 are inactive. Check joining date vs last active.

Only 15 replied to messages and shared a TG ID.

6 of the 15 are scammers. Ragini, Notaquickie, AdorableMadam, Deepti Gowda, Mila and Jaanu
(2 of these names were replaced by similar profiles of the same person).

Nezuko wants platonic only and paid.
Beautifuleyes lives in Mumbai.
Taara has a fake pic (very unattractive).
TemptingEnthusiast is a scammer or time waster, as another member has also flagged.
Shrijal is a time waster (1 line replies every 2 days).
Alruna is GPS (50 k).

That leaves, Dynamicbelle, MysticalDimple & Femininehottie.

Similarly, the month prior to this (24 Feb-24 Mar) has: Akshara, Deep93, Kiyaaa, NotNerd and Kiara as real prospects.
Of these, Kiyaaa ghosted me, Deep93 has been reviewed and found to be an old pro.

Add another 20 potentially good profiles in the previous 6 months. All have been discussed here.

There are about 60 paid and active members in Bangalore (a ladyfriend on SA shares her inbox) competing for about 30 girls.
When one starts sharing TG ID's with unknown people, this ratio is further skewed and prices shoot up for all of us.

To clarify, I do share notes with other members (whose sub may be just over), because we are not adding to demand, or if someone is not my type, but may be happy to hear from another member.

Phil has raised very valid points. This sharing of SA ids dilutes the quality of women on the platform and as a result our experience. It's difficult to find real sugar babes on this app as it is overcrowded with scamsters and escorts. If one's target is an escort, there are easier and cheaper ways to find them. Let's try and maintain some quality and standards which hopefully improve the quality. I also went through this learning curve. I had also reached out to a member for an ID a few months back. And my perspective has changed now.

Again some feedback on two profiles:

Adorable hottie. I find her attitude very condescending and haughty. Have stopped communicating with her. She wants an allowance for a coffee meet also.

Kiyaa claims that she is a student but wants 10 k / HR. I have rarely come across such hrs based rates on seeking, so I assume that she was trying to cheat or is an escort.

Cheers.

[Phil50]

We talked a bit about SA. She mentioned that she knows about this forum, not the exact link, but she mentioned that there is a forum where discussions happen. (has to be ISG). Then she talked about something idiotic that happens here. She said there are guys who collect telegram IDs and sell them here for Rs 200-300. (LOL!) She had a rush of people messaging her with no link back to SA. That is, they didn't have a SA account and when they were questioned, they 'fessed up to this. There seems to be another racket going on here where guys who can't make an account pay Rs 200-300 to get the IDs of the girls of SA so they can directly msg them.

She said that pimps regularly approach her on SA offering her work. This is further evidence that SA is infested with pimps on both the male and female profile side.

Lastly, she also mentioned that some guys share accounts and there are multiple people using single premium accounts.

These are very relevant observations and what has spoilt SA. The membership fee is particularly high in India, because we do not earn in $ and the ratio of women here is a lot worse than in the US. However, the fee acts as a filter. It will only attract the top 1% of men and that attracts the kind of girl we are ideally looking for. Cheap guys drive out the classy girls who do not want to receive TG messages from unknown guys. This is turn attract the cheap girls, who get a premium from being on SA, compared to working with local pimp.

There are 87 girls who joined SA in the past month (more if you count those who deleted profiles shortly after they were made). In 2020, this averaged 50-55 girls per month, so that is the good news. However: Most of the 87 are inactive. Check joining date vs last active.

Only 15 replied to messages and shared a TG ID.

6 of the 15 are scammers. Ragini, Notaquickie, AdorableMadam, Deepti Gowda, Mila and Jaanu
(2 of these names were replaced by similar profiles of the same person).

Nezuko wants platonic only and paid.
Beautifuleyes lives in Mumbai.
Taara has a fake pic (very unattractive).
TemptingEnthusiast is a scammer or time waster, as another member has also flagged.
Shrijal is a time waster (1 line replies every 2 days).
Alruna is GPS (50 k).

That leaves, Dynamicbelle, MysticalDimple & Femininehottie.

Similarly, the month prior to this (24 Feb-24 Mar) has: Akshara, Deep93, Kiyaaa, NotNerd and Kiara as real prospects.
Of these, Kiyaaa ghosted me, Deep93 has been reviewed and found to be an old pro.

Add another 20 potentially good profiles in the previous 6 months. All have been discussed here.

There are about 60 paid and active members in Bangalore (a ladyfriend on SA shares her inbox) competing for about 30 girls.
When one starts sharing TG ID's with unknown people, this ratio is further skewed and prices shoot up for all of us.

To clarify, I do share notes with other members (whose sub may be just over), because we are not adding to demand, or if someone is not my type, but may be happy to hear from another member.

[JPoppen]

Maintain some dignity, RIP.

Good that the original post is deleted now. This was totally uncalled for. Anyways, back to the purpose.

[Akhi0007]

This is very common, especially in the south. A lot of these guys have had no exposure or interaction with women.

And the guys are not very good looking or refined themselves (a lot of new money), so any girl with them is a big deal.

Maintain some dignity, RIP.

[FunForSandy]

Bro. Why you degrading south guys? In north, they are more refined? Give me a break.

I agree. Such comments are completely avoidable. I have lived and worked in North, West and South and have met great people and uncouth people everywhere. Let's not be narrow minded.

[DrySpell123]

This is very common, especially in the south. A lot of these guys have had no exposure or interaction with women.

And the guys are not very good looking or refined themselves (a lot of new money), so any girl with them is a big deal.

Bro. Why you degrading south guys? In north, they are more refined? Give me a break.

[Christmas Tre]

So I met a girl from SA today. Won't say who for obvious reasons.

Not really a pro, decent conversation. We talked a bit about SA. She mentioned that she knows about this forum, not the exact link, but she mentioned that there is a forum where discussions happen. (has to be ISG). Then she talked about something idiotic that happens here. She said there are guys who collect telegram IDs and sell them here for Rs 200-300. (LOL!) She had a rush of people messaging her with no link back to SA. That is, they didn't have a SA account and when they were questioned, they 'fessed up to this. There seems to be another racket going on here where guys who can't make an account pay Rs 200-300 to get the IDs of the girls of SA so they can directly msg them.

She said that pimps regularly approach her on SA offering her work. This is further evidence that SA is infested with pimps on both the male and female profile side.

Lastly, she also mentioned that some guys share accounts and there are multiple people using single premium accounts.

[BadBoyLucifer]

Anyone has idea about FierceDiva from Delhi? She is asking 15 for 4 hrs.

[Mad Hatter]

She helped herself to the most expensive alcohol on the menu. Red flags. She is obviously well traveled and seems to be quite a few men are lining up to whisk her off to places.

She talked a big game and was super arrogant. Alarm bells were ringing like crazy for me. So I feigned a business emergency and called it off.

She might be the right type for some gentlemen though. Have her Instagram for senior members.

Girl 2: StunningMizz.

Nothing stunning about her. Very chunky and very plain. Wants 20 K. Hard no.

Wasted an evening already. Another week to go.

[Mad Hatter]

Finished up my afternoon meeting and decided to meet one of the girls I had lined up.

Girl 1: Adorable Mermaid.

She started at 60 K but brought it down to 50 K and her pics showed that she was at least polished and carried herself well.

Met her for a drink at the JW in Juhu. In she walked and the pics were accurate except she was a bit more curvy. In a good way I guess. You could say she has "mutton". Not really my type. But dirty sexy, if you know what I mean.

She helped herself to the most expensive alcohol on the menu. Red flags. She is obviously well traveled and seems to be quite a few men are lining up to whisk her off to places.

She talked a big game and was super arrogant. Alarm bells were ringing like crazy for me. So I feigned a business emergency and called it off.

She might be the right type for some gentlemen though. Have her Instagram for senior members.

Girl 2: StunningMizz.

Nothing stunning about her. Very chunky and very plain. Wants 20 K. Hard no.

Wasted an evening already. Another week to go.

[FunForSandy]

Possible scammer: TemptingEnthusiast. Ghosted me twice after fixing the meeting herself. Now wants to meet for a "romantic" meet. Romantic definition is that we can make out all we want but there can't be sex. Allowance ask is 20 k for the same. I don't know what's she smoking.

Freebird26 : pretty young thing from Jamshedpur, soft spoken good figure. Met her twice over coffee before meeting her for carnal pleasures: it was a disaster, there was zero passion from her side. Usually I go for multiple sessions, with her I could barely finish once. It was my biggest error of judgement. I had clarified everything during our talks and chats. Yet it was a disaster. I guess it's part of our journey.

Fantine, Hopiee and AdorableHottie have disappeared after initial chats on seeking. We did not even move to TG.

Suufa, Warmsinger, Shaz, Akshara, beautifuleyes have been totally unresponsive.

Rose, this girl has now changed location to Mumbai. Apparently a Kashmiri. Ask was 50 k, I said it's beyond me, so has come down to 40k. Good command over English though.

Then there's this profile Wittyinfluencer with a pic which I just dislike, she keeps on favoriting from different profiles.

I hope we get to read some positive reviews now.

[Phil50]

Some profiles and why this type should be avoided:

Freefalling: I have chatted with her from before Covid. She's Rithika from Jarkhand. Mehndi artist. On 3 occasions, whenever we reconnect on SA, she agrees to the 1st casual meet, just before which. she asks for an advance. I have refused but don't block, as we both know its a scam, but she chats anyway. Today, she asked for money, after a lot of preliminary chat with some hot pics and was shameless in asking for it, though she remembered my saying no earlier.
I'm sure she would be quite willing to meet for intimacy and earn enough. She has a good body and rate would probably be reasonable, because she has understood the market after 5 years.
However, she candidly says scamming is easy money. There's always some joker who will be taken in by her story of caring for some sick puppy or kitten, get turned on by a pic in a bra and send her cash. This pretty much sums up why there girls continue to be on SA.

Nezuko: Old profile was Naami. Not sure of what she wants on SA, which is fine if we move on. There's a danger of getting too interested, getting too emotionally involved after chats. The girl will invariably sense it and you will be hit by a request to help in her financial emergency. The only reason a profile is deleted and a new one made, is that someone has reported the old profile
(scammers are often too lazy. Or the victims too dumb to notice).

Whenever you write to someone who has ignored your previous message, you can be certain your price will go up. A girl gets 100 messages. She sends titillating pics, suggests an arrangement,
then does nothing. 20 guys will follow up, 5 will send a third message. Those 5 will pay more than the going rate and spoil the market for the rest of us. In my professional life I would not do
business with a supplier who ghosts me after half the details of the product are given.

New profile Swathi. She's in Dubai, location shows as Bangalore, where she has no connection. When you make a profile with the intention to deceive, it does not end well for whoever pays, unless you want to go for the profile controlled by a pimp, who changes the location of the profile every 2 days, to attract the most interest. Same with new profile 'beautiful eyes'.

Anyone who says they are working but online most of the day, or middle of the night, is most likely a pimp (or more than 1) controlling the account. You can check this by looking at profiles sorted by most recently active. There will be around 50 online, during the day if you keep checking, you will find some similar profiles online always.

[FunForSandy]

The difference here is that they are not old or successful men, but they are young guys who are spending dad's money or running dad's business and fail in dating circle.

That's true. And such guys are used to throwing money, they don't value it as much because they haven't gone through the grind to earn it.

[RoniG]

But the BMW or trophy part will work only if the girl has the look and the sophistication / elegance and who are confident enough to be seen along with an older man. Mere looks or mere sophistication won't suffice. Such girls are extremely rare at least on SA Bangalore. I have met just 2 such in my limited experience.

The difference here is that they are not old or successful men, but they are young guys who are spending dad's money or running dad's business and fail in dating circle.