Seeking Arrangement- SA- in India

[Phil50]

Janvi and Pihu look like pimp profiles.

They will typically have changed locations (between the big cities) or the profile will say they are going to be in town for just a couple of days.
If they are overbooked, you will be told she has periods, or 'busy with a shoot' but her friend is ready to meet.

Nothing wrong in getting business this way. Its an opportunity for those interested, to go directly to source, by saying for e. G. That if more options can be given, you and your friends may be
regular customers.
The same girls will probably be supplied cheaper (as Christmas has posted) but on SA, pimps or girls feel they can charge more.

Iamsobeautifull is a pimp for a high end escort (50 k).

[Phil50]

She makes living on casual dates and prefers that. As per her there are many men ready to pay 6 k to 10 k just for casual dates. Like a dude wants to show off his dad's bmw, a guy wanted a GF for a movie, girl friend for a party etc. Have met her for intimate time and good experience except she is not into DFK. Girl next door looks.

I have done casual dates on this basis (but after an unpaid casual date to see if we click). The BMW analogy is apt. I'd like someone who does turn heads and is arm candy, who is comfortable in a sophisticated setting or talking to my peers. For e.g a corporate event where I don't like to go alone, but I like my companion to look like my hot GF, not a working girl.

Hardly anyone in the current lot will meet this criteria.

[FunForSandy]

Yeah she looked hot in pics. I didn't message yet because I need a rest period from messaging profiles who don't bother to reply back. .

I don't get why they're on the site if they don't want to communicate. I'm just curious about their modus operandi. Of course, it's their wish whether to reply or not, but why bother being on the site at all. Timepass?

Ha ha bro. I totally feel you.

[FunForSandy]

I have had a success with new profile with empty description. My filter is based on casual dates. If they are not okay with casual dates or have weird reason then will ignore them. Two of my long term had empty profiles.

Wow! That's unique. I usually avoid empty profiles.

And please elaborate on your filter of casual dates.

[Shegoy]

Its been 10 years since I first joined SA and 8 years in Bangalore. I rejoined after a gap and against my better judgement, as the kind of girls I seek are now very rare on SA.
- a long term GFE, with someone I vibe well with and for whom I am either the only sugar daddy, or the one she spends most of her sugar dating time with.

As ChristmasTre suggests (I fully endorse his views), the girls are either cheap hookers getting a premium for SA listing, entitled girls quoting GPS, time wasters or unsuitable women trying their luck on SA.

I have noted all my SA contacts over the years and can do a PhD on the data I have collected. Some points that may be helpful:

I do a unpaid 1st meet with all prospects. I have met 110 in 10 years and only paid 3 of them (around 5 k). The rest are only covered for cab. In a long term relationship, a girl stands to make 5 lac on average. If she wants to throw that away because she wants to be paid to for the chance to eat and drink in a classy place, that's not my kind of partner.
The other way I look at it is that its like asking to be paid to attend a job interview.

Of these 110 people I have met, I have not seen 70 again. Though I had seen pics, their actual looks were disappointing, or we had nothing in common, or I saw no interest on their part.
This may not be relevant when you want short term and your interaction is limited to sex. However, when the girl that arrives to your hotel room is not what you expected, quite often we go through with it because there is a sunk cost in time and money and no other option and the girls know that. A learning for me is to do a VC, but there is no substitute to face to face. Even if you don't have time, make it clear that you will meet for e. G. In a hotel lobby and if she is not suitable, or late, it will be called off.
There were a few of these 70 with him I have had a 2nd meet and it hasn't worked. Trust your first instincts.

Only 2-3 of the 70 who were not seen again, where those I would have liked to meet, but they did not respond. I am over 50 and don't pay more than market rates, but if you are interested.
and have the money you won't be rejected.

The best indicator of success in a long term relationship is when they show up on time. I have had 12 long term relationships on SA (over 1 year and over 24 meets). I also had only
15 girls of 110 who showed up on time for a first meet, 12 of the 15, were my 12 long term relationships. My 3 best ones were the 3 who arrived early. Our time is more valuable then theirs and
if someone is disrespectful of our time in the first meet (I'm talking over 30 minutes late) it will only get worse.

Finally, I have broken all the above rules, because I have thought with my the**k, or been in an emotionally vulnerable state.

Happy mongering.

Exceedingly well written POV which aptly sums up the SA scene. Reading the post one can make out the feelings of a seasoned monger who's been there and done that on SA. Cheers mate and let your exploits of nether lands continue.

[RoniG]

Its been 10 years since I first joined SA and 8 years in Bangalore. I rejoined after a gap and against my better judgement, as the kind of girls I seek are now very rare on SA.
- a long term GFE, with someone I vibe well with and for whom I am either the only sugar daddy, or the one she spends most of her sugar dating time with.

As ChristmasTre suggests (I fully endorse his views), the girls are either cheap hookers getting a premium for SA listing, entitled girls quoting GPS, time wasters or unsuitable women trying their luck on SA.

I have noted all my SA contacts over the years and can do a PhD on the data I have collected. Some points that may be helpful:

I do a unpaid 1st meet with all prospects. I have met 110 in 10 years and only paid 3 of them (around 5 k). The rest are only covered for cab. In a long term relationship, a girl stands to make 5 lac on average. If she wants to throw that away because she wants to be paid to for the chance to eat and drink in a classy place, that's not my kind of partner.
The other way I look at it is that its like asking to be paid to attend a job interview.

Of these 110 people I have met, I have not seen 70 again. Though I had seen pics, their actual looks were disappointing, or we had nothing in common, or I saw no interest on their part.
This may not be relevant when you want short term and your interaction is limited to sex. However, when the girl that arrives to your hotel room is not what you expected, quite often we go through with it because there is a sunk cost in time and money and no other option and the girls know that. A learning for me is to do a VC, but there is no substitute to face to face. Even if you don't have time, make it clear that you will meet for e. G. In a hotel lobby and if she is not suitable, or late, it will be called off.
There were a few of these 70 with him I have had a 2nd meet and it hasn't worked. Trust your first instincts.

Only 2-3 of the 70 who were not seen again, where those I would have liked to meet, but they did not respond. I am over 50 and don't pay more than market rates, but if you are interested.
and have the money you won't be rejected.

The best indicator of success in a long term relationship is when they show up on time. I have had 12 long term relationships on SA (over 1 year and over 24 meets). I also had only
15 girls of 110 who showed up on time for a first meet, 12 of the 15, were my 12 long term relationships. My 3 best ones were the 3 who arrived early. Our time is more valuable then theirs and
if someone is disrespectful of our time in the first meet (I'm talking over 30 minutes late) it will only get worse.

Girls wants to be paid an amount per session that would be equal to their monthly salary if they had a real job. Yet, they will either have no info in their profile. That reeks of entitlement -.
I need to be paid despite making no effort, just because I need money. I have not seen any instance where responding to an 'empty' profile has resulted in a good relationship.
Similarly someone who does not reply to a message when you are in the middle of a chat, or disappears for several days, will only come back to you when there is no other alternative.
Don't chase such people, just as in our professional lives, we won't chase a supplier (in a market with many of them) who shows no interest in you. When someone replies after you send repeat messages, you can be sure the price has increased.

No one wants your friendship, or wants to meet you because of your looks and personality, or wants to see you exclusively. Be suspicious of those who say so, particularly when they haven't.
read your profile. At best, if there are multiple people offering the same amount and her time is limited, she may choose whoever she gels with best.

Don't ever pay advance, it's almost always a scam. The exception is when you know them well enough. Even with girls I have advanced money to after a few dates, some have scammed me.

We often have little lies in our profile, but I do not understand why girls lie stupidly about their location, or job, or send an obviously fake pic. If the girl is successful in getting 'business'. She is going to be seen naked. She will disappoint men who expect her to resemble the profile pic, or her heavily photoshopped pic. That suggests an attitude of 'I give a damn' and It has never got her a 2nd meet with me.

In a long term relationship, there has to be some amount of emotional bonding and liking for the lady. However, you can be dropped without notice at any time. Being dumped and ghosted can hurt, but that is a reality of SA and it is best to move on, rather than chase the girl, or throw more money at the next one. The only person who is likely to be there for you, is your spouse.

We are on the site to de-stress and are willing to pay a lot for that. I'm not here to listen to the girl's problems, or exchange good morning messages. When you get these messages right in the beginning, its not a good sign. I don't need to know why they need money or why they got on the site. In my long term relationships, I have helped with genuine problems, but these are rare.

The girls are more networked than we are. For the same amount of time spent on SA, they have met more men and have a better understanding of the site than we do. I am constantly surprised.
by the ability of girls half our age to manipulate our feelings.

Finally, I have broken all the above rules, because I have thought with my the**k, or been in an emotionally vulnerable state.

Happy mongering.

I have had a success with new profile with empty description. My filter is based on casual dates. If they are not okay with casual dates or have weird reason then will ignore them. Two of my long term had empty profiles.

[RoniG]

Not met or done VC, but they seem legit.

Bright dame & Broken heart - 15 k.

Janvi. Visiting from Mumbai - 12 k.

Old profiles but had good reviews. I am not meeting, as I don't want people who are heavily sampled, but it may be of interest:

Adoreable hottie & CreativeBabe (they quote 25 k).

CreativeBabe is NE and heavy and face is a turn off. Her ask was 15 k 3 months back. She used to go by Wise gorgeous earlier. This is a new profile.

Adorable Hottie looks more like Nicegurl or Tithi...there are few reviews on her. A bong girl.

[RoniG]

'A' - Fat, not attractive. Sound like a depressed soul. Pointless conversation doesn't lead to anything.

Janvi. Pimp profile. Decent wares for 12 k.

Sonaliroy. Gives her whatsapp phone number on first instance. Truecaller review lists her as a scammer and a fraud. Beware.

Jaanu. You will die waiting for her to answer a msg. Does not want sex.

"A" is chubby not petite. Doesn't make an effort for conversation. She makes living on casual dates and prefers that. As per her there are many men ready to pay 6 k to 10 k just for casual dates. Like a dude wants to show off his dad's bmw, a guy wanted a GF for a movie, girl friend for a party etc. Have met her for intimate time and good experience except she is not into DFK. Girl next door looks.

[Christmas Tre]

'A' - Fat, not attractive. Sound like a depressed soul. Pointless conversation doesn't lead to anything.

Janvi. Pimp profile. Decent wares for 12 k.

Sonaliroy. Gives her whatsapp phone number on first instance. Truecaller review lists her as a scammer and a fraud. Beware.

Jaanu. You will die waiting for her to answer a msg. Does not want sex.

[ScubaDo]

A category not covered here, but make up a lot of profiles.

These are people just casually checking out the site, or (even worse, because they are active) don't know what they want, but take up a lot of your time either chatting or sending
messages very slowly, without finalizing anything.

Add Genial Genie to the list (apart from Storm who I mentioned before). I get a Hi and weekend wishes regularly but nothing more even though I initiated. .

Very confusing and amusing.

[BeStill]

Folks, I've gone through most of the Bangalore profiles. The ones who seem value for money (cost & looks), completed the chat and ready to meet are:

Rahat - (Hindi speaking) 5 k per hour & Feminine hottie. Assamese beautician (10 k short time).

I'm not going ahead only because I look for long

Birds like Rahat are exactly what I am looking for. Vfm birds, good for 1-2 meets, absolutely no long term. I have zero plans to take them out to a restaurant or shopping.

If you come across other such profiles, do let us know.

[Pk099]

Great write-up Phil50.

I have similar experience on SA like you (maybe 7 yrs), but mostly in Mexico / Canada / USA.

In India I have used SA in last 3 yrs, mostly after travel opened post covid.

Initially I had good success in Delhi, Mumbai with SA girls, met some really good NE and Delhi / ggn / noida girls.

They were not cheap, but really provided very good GFE experience (went to nice dinners, dance clubs etc.).

One girl even introduced me to her friend and we had 3 some in her apartment in ggn.

But since middle of last year, when I visited India, I saw lot of scam and agencies working on SA.

When you message them, you get immediate response with pics and amount.

Also regular girls are asking for large amount and they are below average (short, out of share, bad hygiene), at least not my type.

I have seen this trend in other parts of world also, like last month I visited Mexico and had very disappointed trip.

Many of my favorites have moved on, and many new SA profiles are either agencies or escorts.

Best days of SA are behind us, hopefully things get back to where they were.

Its been 10 years since I first joined SA and 8 years in Bangalore. I rejoined after a gap and against my better judgement, as the kind of girls I seek are now very rare on SA.
- a long term GFE, with someone I vibe well with and for whom I am either the only sugar daddy, or the one she spends most of her sugar dating time with.

As ChristmasTre suggests (I fully endorse his views), the girls are either cheap hookers getting a premium for SA listing, entitled girls quoting GPS, time wasters or unsuitable women trying their luck on SA.

I have noted all my SA contacts over the years and can do a PhD on the data I have collected. Some points that may be helpful:
...

[Phil50]

Not met or done VC, but they seem legit.

Bright dame & Broken heart - 15 k.

Janvi. Visiting from Mumbai - 12 k.

Old profiles but had good reviews. I am not meeting, as I don't want people who are heavily sampled, but it may be of interest:

Adoreable hottie & CreativeBabe (they quote 25 k).

[Phil50]

A category not covered here, but make up a lot of profiles.

These are people just casually checking out the site, or (even worse, because they are active) don't know what they want, but take up a lot of your time either chatting or sending
messages very slowly, without finalizing anything.

Girlinside is one discussed earlier.

Others: Shrijal, Jaanu, Swapna, MysteriousMadame, TemptingEnthusiast, A, Taara (fake pic).

[Phil50]

Adding 3 more to the no response list:

Adira.

Sensualsoumya.

WarmPlayer.

Not responded to me either.

For older profiles, its a good idea to see their last online date. Sometimes the last online is a few day after they made the profile. In other cases, its at least a month back. Neither type is.

Likely to respond.