Ciudad Juarez

[RearWindow]

I was hoping I was wrong, I was hoping I was being feed bullshit, I was hoping I was being an alarmist but no avail. When you see the rumors in print in 2 local papers then its all done but the crying.

It will be a sad day when fun will no longer be found in centro.

Should we have one last MongerPalooza before downtown shuts down?

Mugroso

This has become the story of my life ( thanks Social Distortion for the soundtrack). Find a place, love it and BAM! shut down. I'm back Dec 8-10 and feeling like I'm screwed. Thankfully there's the MP's..but man there's gonna be colas.

[Toni Ten]

How about the 24 of Nov?

[Clydesdale]

Should we have one last MongerPalooza before downtown shuts down?

Mugroso

Certainly! The poor girls need to make a living.

[Mugroso]

I was hoping I was wrong, I was hoping I was being feed bullshit, I was hoping I was being an alarmist but no avail. When you see the rumors in print in 2 local papers then its all done but the crying.

It will be a sad day when fun will no longer be found in centro.

Should we have one last MongerPalooza before downtown shuts down?

Mugroso

[Willis67]

Asking for a little advice. I planned my trip out west for an overnight stop in EP. Need a place to stay, so should just get hotel in EP or Juarez? I'll be hanging out in Juarez, but are there any decent places to stay, or should I just get a cheap hotel in EP??

Best place for girls? I heard the high class strip clubs are are very expensive and I should hang around the border bars. Are those strip clubs worth the hassel?

Thanks

[Bbond]

EL DIARIO
Como parte del programa de regeneración del Centro Histórico de Ciudad Juárez, el Municipio y el Gobierno del Estado comprarán 300 propiedades ubicadas en el primer cuadro para ser demolidas o restauradas en los casos que tengan carácter histórico, señaló el secretario del Ayuntamiento, Jorge Álvarez Compeán.
Part of the program of regeneration of the Historical Center of Juárez City, the Municipality and the Government of the State will buy 300 properties located in the first block to be demolished or to be renovated in the case that have historical character, indicated the secretary of the City council.


Los inmuebles se ubican en su mayoría sobre la calle Mariscal y están ocupados por los llamados giros negros, y por algunos negocios de estética y hospedaje, indicó el funcionario.
The majority of the buildings are located on the street Mariscal and are occupied by the unfavorable, and by some businesses of estetica and lodging, it indicated the civil employee.

Señaló que la totalidad de los propietarios ya fueron contactados y se está a punto de iniciar la celebración de los contratos de compraventa en favor del Municipio.
It was indicated that the totality of the proprietors already were contacted and it is on the verge of initiating the celebration of contracts of transaction in favor of the Municipality.

“El programa va sobre ruedas, va muy adelantado, yo considero que se han visitado ya casi la totalidad de los dueños de las fincas de la zona Centro, estamos hablando de la zona de la Mariscal”, refirió.
The program is rolling, getting very advanced, I believe that the most of the owners of the property of the zone have been visited already, we are speaking of the zone of the Mariscal.

Indicó que en ninguno de los casos se ha encontrado oposición lo que ha facilitado el avance del programa.
He indicated that in none of the cases there has been any opposition which has facilitated the advance of the program.

“En cuanto a la venta de esos inmuebles hemos encontrado un gran eco favorable al Gobierno Municipal. Yo estimo que pronto vamos a ver muchas escrituras de compraventa, se están ya ordenando, creo que tenemos un número importante de fincas que se está formalizando”, dijo.
As far as the sale of those buildings we have found a great favorable echo to the Municipal Government. I consider that soon we are going to see many deeds of sale, I believe that we have an important number of property owners that are becoming serious.

Álvarez Compeán señaló que una vez obtenidas las escrituras, se procederá en breve a la demolición de aquellos edificios que no tengan ningún valor histórico para la ciudad.
Alvarez Compeán indicated that once obtained the signings, it will come rapidly the demolition of those buildings that do not have any historical value for the city.

“Ya se tiene evaluado todo, edificios históricos nada más hay una marca histórica, el edificio ya no es histórico, se encuentra sobre la Mariscal, pero se va a ver con mucho detenimiento. En la demolición se tomará en cuenta el valor histórico de las propiedades”, apuntó.
have already had evaluated everything, and found only one historical building, nothing else is an historical mark, it is on Mariscal, but we are looking thoroughfully if others exist. The demolition of the historical value of the properties will be taken into account.

Explicó que la mayoría de las propiedades están ocupadas por giros negros los cuales serán reubicados a la zona de tolerancia para dar lugar a espacios de esparcimiento familiar.
He explained that most of the properties that are occupied by unfavorable businesses which will be relocated to the zone of tolerance to give rise to spaces of family use.

“Hemos hablado de alrededor de 300 inmuebles, no necesariamente considerados los giros negros como lugares donde se venda licor, alcohol, sino adicionalmente aquellos lugares que tienen una relación directa con la prostitución. Estamos hablando de hoteles, casas de hospedaje, hasta algunos negocios de estilistas, etc.”, refirió.
We have spoken of around 300 buildings, not necessarily all considered unfavorable, like places where alcohol is sold, but additionally those places that have a direct relation with prostitution. We are also speaking of hotels, lodging houses, and some businesses of estilistas.

Señaló que las compras se están realizando con un fondo de 100 millones de pesos creado exprofeso y a partes iguales por el Gobierno del Estado y el Municipio.
Properties are being bought from a fund of 100 million pesos.

“Los dueños de las fincas ya saben el interés que tenemos de adquirirlos y se está negociaciondo sobre bases justas. Nosotros queremos que vendan las propiedades, no se ha pensado en alguna acción de fuerza por parte del Gobierno del Estado o el Municipio”, manifestó.
The property owners know we are interested in buying their property and we are negotiating on a just basis. We want to buy the properties and have not considered any force of action.

“Yo creo que aquí los dueños de los predios deberán estar convencidos que esto es por Juárez”, añadió.
The owner should be convinced that this is for the betterment of Juarez.


Says they are buying up properties in El Centro, so it has begun.

Translation by babelfish and bbond, for those who need it, not 100% but close enough to get the gist of what they are doing.

[Zoo TV]

FYI

Juárez looks into prostitution problem (3:11 p.m.)
By Louie Gilot / El Paso Times
Article Launched:11/15/2006 03:10:33 PM MST

JUAREZ -- The city of Juárez is inviting residents and experts from both sides of the border to brainstorm solutions to the city's prostitution problem.

Juárez Mayor Héctor Murguía announced today an online poll on prostitution and a forum titled, "Prostitution: Anarchy or Tolerance?" to be taking place Nov. 27, 28, 29 and 30 in Juárez s ProNaf area.

Prostitution is resurging as a problem for the city since officials launched an ambitious plan to restore the historical center of the city to its past glory. Two of the three most important red-light districts are in downtown Juárez -- one on Mariscal street at the foot of the Paso Del Norte Bridge, and one on La Paz street, near the Juárez cathedral and mission. A new flourishing prostitution corridor is on Paseo Triunfo de la Republica, near the ProNaf, officials said.

But Murguía said that just raiding those districts would not be a lasting solution.

The mayor said officials must take into account the social and public health dimensions of the problem. He said that

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he was recently in a downtown Juárez bar where a dancer -- a woman who gets paid to encourage male customers to drink and who dances with them -- recognized him.
"Now, I don't know if she was a prostitute, but she said to me, 'Mayor, don't kick me out. I need to work,' " Murguía said.

Murguía did not outright reject the idea of a zone of tolerance for prostitution in Juárez.

"If the citizens want this, this is what we will go for," he said.

City historian Felipe Talavera said there have been five consecutive zones of tolerance in Juárez since 1927, including one near the Zaragoza Bridge that was a center for entertainment during the American Prohibition.

Anybody can voice their opinions on the subject at http://www.juarez.gob.mx/foro/encuesta_opinion.htm. The online public opinion poll will be up until Dec. 15.

City officials declined to release an estimate of the number of prostitutes working in Juárez so as not to influence the poll, they said.

[Mugroso]

Never heard of it. However there WAS a club called La Cueva, (the cave). Closed last time I was down there.

I remember The Cave. It was the place to go in the late 80s but went down hill from there and really went to hell when Fernando passed away. His sons just didn't have any business sense.

BTW, never heard of La Cava. I would love to find out where it is. I doubt it was a reference to The Cave since it has been closed so many years.

Keep us informed on any findings.
Mugroso

[Bbond]

Anyone been to La Cava? A friend here in Las Cruces says his buddy owns it and can get me a deal.

Never heard of it. However there WAS a club called La Cueva, (the cave). Closed last time I was down there.

[Spy Master]

Anyone been to La Cava? A friend here in Las Cruces says his buddy owns it and can get me a deal.

[Adam Z]

Saturday night was almost as crazy as Friday night. Lots of dudes standing on the sidelines. Again the line-up was impressive, lots of terrific looking girls. Had to get the hottest one though IMHO, named Perla. Two drinks and lap dances and I asked her to go to the cuarto with me. She says no, she doesn't do that. But, she'll do a privado in the closet in the back of the club for 30 a song. I figure that's what I'll pay at Jags so I go for 2 songs. Then they hit me with 10 for the club. Damn it, 70 for 2 songs. I'm getting ripped off and I know it. But this girl is 19 and SO INCREDIBLY FINE. I've got cash but little time and it's already 1 AM so I just go for it.

It stinks in the closet and it's dirty. There's barely room for the plastic lawn chair. But she grinds right off the bat and it isn't long until she's pulled those panties away and let me finger her for the whole song. For song 2 I decide to whip it out and put on a condom and see if she'll let me go for it. But before I can get the wrapper off, she tells me no, she won't go all the way. But she does get on her knees and jerk me off all over her AMAZING tits.

I have to say, this was the dirtiest/hottest experience I've had in a J-town club in quite some time. And yeah, I spent too much money on her when I could have had a girl at another club for half that and gotten much better service. But sometimes you see a girl that you just have to have and she was it for me. And give her a little time, in a few months at that club if she stays there, she'll be doing cuartos for sure. They all do.

Incidentally, I had another friend tell me that he got a quick half & half in the Hollywood closet from another girl. So, I guess that's how the girls are working it in the club. They don't have to leave, they spend less time and they make more money. Not the best overall experience but fun in a pinch.

[Cienega32]

I've been crossing the river earlier on Sats and not later on Fridays lately. Gives me a chance to wander around a bit. Anyway, a little thing going on by the Cathedral related to the Oaxaca events and one of the indigineous Indians doing his show.

Head over to Laura's and played a bit with "Suzy". Cute little thing that claims to be 20. Perky nips on small but acceptable mounts and tight as a drum. Almost too tight. No rush, sweet, eager, fun. $40 and I tossed her a 5 for her enthusiasm. Only problem was when flipping her from cowgirl to a scissor, one of the 'low spots' in the bed and jammed my antiquated hip which, of course, interfered with the plan. Suzy was a trooper and went to some handwork while the nerve twinge settled. Anyway - she was a good time with no rush, no attitude other than good and open to many positions. No problems at all.

On the way out and headed to Virginia's via the Sh!t Ditch path, the crowd alongside of the Green Lantern made me think I would be better served by cutting thru that one block behind Virginia's. It looked empty - no people and then out of the shadows 2 Policia were doing their thing. I told them where I was going and why I was going this way while they were going thru my pockets - one on one side, the other on the other. Both shooting questions at once. It was a lot of work keeping up with them, a few of my bills hitting the ground (one ending up under a boot but I got it) and what they were handing me to hold. Their main concern seemed to be with drugs. They pulled everything out of my wallet and looked thru each thing, probed into my socks and sneakers, along the waistband of my pants, etc. I haven't had such a complete shakedown since I was a 16 yearold punk back in New York. No cash lost but the one fuc#er took my last cig and then bitched about it being a menthol.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the flashlite aimed up the nose and the mouth check, under the tongue and being told to spit. They also were just stopping anything that moved. They had finished with one before me, stopped a vehicle during mine and went to another walker when they were done with me.

I know the one thing that worried me was with the first sock probe. "You have no drugs in here?" "No, no - no drugs - nothing." Then while he was going to the other foot he says "Are you SURE about that?". To me, it felt like the fix was on but no problema other than something to think about in the future.

Anyway - this was about 7pm by the stairs that come down from that top exit inside Virginia's. Not a soul in that joint so I went to Taco Lucas for my regular and headed home.


OH - 'Que Bueno' - The Hotel Rio - if it's the one across from the Plaza - is a dump. I've stayed there in the past a few years back for todo la noches and it was ok for a pinch. Not anymore. Pure dump that suffered from the rainstorms. Ceilings missing, bad fans, etc. Not worth the price of admission at all. Thanks for the list - it's helpful to me

[Clydesdale]

Hollywood was where it's at. I couldn't even get a seat. Many FINE girls, especially Paty a little blonde from El Paso. WOW. Amazing. But the place was so crowded that I could only take it for a little while. I'll bet that on a Thursday or maybe Saturday it won't be as packed but the same fine girls will all be working. I'll try to hit it again tonight and let you guys know. But seriously, if you don't mind fighting the crowd, there are some A+ prospects in this dump.

Finally ended up at Dia y Noche and settled on a sexy little girl named Daniela. I wanted to post this about her because she's a nice looking girl kind of reminds me of pornstar Jenna Haze, rail thin with LONG black hair, but she's not worth the trouble. She's nice in the bar and seems like she'll be fun...but in the cuarto it's RUSH RUSH RUSH. Worse than any girl I've ever been with. She even snapped at me to hurry.

So, don't waste your time with her. She's hot, but not worth it unless you have a real Jenna Haze fetish.

Thanks for taking one for the team. If you saw my earlier report you know I was hot to go with Daniela but she had a bad smell about her, so I hoped to catch her another time after a recent shower. She was fun in the bar, and only wanted .20 plus bar fine. It's good to hear the room report.
If you like slender girls a fun one in Hollywood is Elizabeth, although I can't give a room report on her yet. She wanted to go after only one drink.

[Adam Z]

Have only hit one MP and everyone here knows by now all about Luxxor. But I have to say, there are some real hot women working there right now, especially at night. Sofia, Yvonne, Ericka...all very hot. YMMV on massage and performance, but if you want a tasty-looking girl...start at Luxxor.

Downtown, I started at Faustos. Some all right girls there, one real sexy blonde stood out. The rest though aren't better than the other bars for the most part and they do cost more.

Rancho Grande...avoid like the plaque unless you have a real grudge against your dick and need to punish yourself. Miserable.

Queens, same old girls with one exception but I couldn't get to talk to her so I left.

Las Vegas was dead but there was this really tall, gothic-looking girl who was really good looking. I couldn't get the other girls to leave me alone long enough to talk to her though, so I got pissed and bailed. Still, she might be worth one more attempt. She's tall with a real curvy body.

Hollywood was where it's at. I couldn't even get a seat. Many FINE girls, especially Paty a little blonde from El Paso. WOW. Amazing. But the place was so crowded that I could only take it for a little while. I'll bet that on a Thursday or maybe Saturday it won't be as packed but the same fine girls will all be working. I'll try to hit it again tonight and let you guys know. But seriously, if you don't mind fighting the crowd, there are some A+ prospects in this dump.

Finally ended up at Dia y Noche and settled on a sexy little girl named Daniela. I wanted to post this about her because she's a nice looking girl kind of reminds me of pornstar Jenna Haze, rail thin with LONG black hair, but she's not worth the trouble. She's nice in the bar and seems like she'll be fun...but in the cuarto it's RUSH RUSH RUSH. Worse than any girl I've ever been with. She even snapped at me to hurry.

So, don't waste your time with her. She's hot, but not worth it unless you have a real Jenna Haze fetish.

[Que Bueno]

i've been making notes on all the hotels i've run into (and a couple that i've stayed at) in juarez. i've just compiled them into the forum's first cj hotel guide! i've included full addresses, phone number and directions wherever possible. apologies in advance for any errors. please let me know if you have stayed at any of these. if you send me your own findings i'll update this guide with the latest info.

guide to accomodation in juarez

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hotel villa manport
corner of hermanos escobar and panama
nice area, convenient to several mps, swimming pool, good restaurants nearby, restaurant in same building.
minuses: swimming pool somewhat murky when i visited.
double, 300
2 1/2 stars

hotel suites jose marti
josemarti 2881
c.p.32180 , ciudad juarez
corner of ave. de las americas & jose marti
double 300
tel: (01) 611-4902
convenient to santa fe bridge, just off ave. americas, looks like a good for 'hobbyists' as most rooms appear in separate building behind main building
300/double

hotel manport (not to be confused with "hotel villa manport")
calle ignacio manuel altamirano no. 103
c.p.32130 , ciudad juarez
corner of 16 de sept. & altamirano
01-615-8051
250-280 / double

hotel rio, ave. juarez,
appears to be medium quality establishment, right on ave. juarez,
on left-hand side going south
double, 300

hotel moran
ave juarez no. 264 ,
col.ciudad juarez centro
c.p.32000 , ciudad juarez ,
appears to be a medium quality establishment
on left hand side of ave. juarez, going south,
double 245

hotel monaco
pase triunfo de la republica no. 3335 , col.monumental
c.p.32310 , ciudad juarez
(1)-616-16-77
single 350, double 400

hotel santa fe
lerdo 250 , col. ciudad juarez centro , c.p. 32000 , ciudad juarez
ave av lerdo & tlaxcala
tel. 615-1522
price range approx. 300

hotel del norte
calle de la paz no. 58 , centro
c.p.32000 , ciudad juarez
(on la paz btw. francisco villa & miguel ahumada)
(near major intersection: vincente guerrero & francisco villa)
double, 170

hotel juarez
lerdo 147 , centro , c.p. 32000 , ciudad juarez
on ave. lerdo, (close to 16 sept.)
basic, no frills accomodation
minuses: shower was just barely lukewarm, sink completely askew
pluses: location convenient to downtown, small tv (no cable), phone in room, small restaurant in same bldg.
doubles 170-180

hotel sevilla, ave juarez
very basic accomodation in run-down building. avoid if possible, but might be useful in a pinch.
minuses: very thin blanket, no shower head on shower, water in shower did not drain.
the only thing this place has going for it is that it is conveniently located on ave. juarez
located on ave. juarez, on left-hand side going south
double 150

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"manport" group of hotels in ciudad juarez.
these are generally medium quality or better
priced in the 250-300/dbl range

hotel villa manport
hermanos escobar & panama
tel: (01) 616-4065

hotel manport
altamirano y 16 de sept.
tel: (01) 615-0983

hotel suites josé martí
josé martí y américas
tel: (01) 611-4902

hotel la teja
av. triunfo de la rep. #4817
tel: (01) 616-6999

hotel plaza consulado
av. lópez mateos #1120 nte.
tel: (01) 611-4885

hotel cabañas panamá
panamá # 708 nte.
tel: (01) 615-8051

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people looking for accomdation more in line with international standards might try the following. prices are approximate and vary depending on season and demand, (could be more than price shown here)

hotel colonial las fuentes
abraham lincoln 1355 , c.p. 32317 , ciudad juarez
near corner of abraham lincoln & ave. americas
(close to international bridge cordova)
located on the best touristic and business zone, 3 minutes from international bridge, 2 minutes from us consulate, 10 minutes from airport a few steps from the best restaurants. hotel has 188 rooms and junior suites with tv, satellite channels, security boxes, security parking, 3 meeting rooms, 2 beautiful gardens with pool
$60-$75

holiday inn express ciudad juarez
paseo triunfo de la rep. #3745
ciudad juarez, mexico, 32310

"stay smart at holiday inn express ciudad juarez. now you can enjoy the benefits of our remodeled roomsour hotel is located in the financial and commercial area, a few minutes from el paso international airport, just a few blocks from the american consulate, 20 minutes from ciudad juarez airport, and 5 minutes from delphi mtc. across the street you'll find a shopping mall and movie theaters, restaurants & bars and just a 10 minutes drive from the international bridge. the hotel features high speed internet in guest rooms, and wireless internet in public spaces.

ponte listo en holiday inn express cd. juarez nos hemos renovado para usted... disfrute ahora de los beneficios de nuestras habitaciones remodeladas. nuestro hotel esta ubicado en la zona comercial y de negocios, localizado a pocos minutos del aeropuerto internacional de el paso texas , solo a unas cuadras del consulado americano, a 20 minutos del aeropuerto de ciudad juarez, y 5 minutos del centro tecnico delphi. frente al hotel cines, restaurantes y bares, y a solo diez minutos del puente internacional. nuestro hotel cuenta con acceso a internet de alta velocidad en habitaciones e internet inalambrico en areas publicas."
$50-75

radisson casa grande hotel ciudad juarez
av. tecnologico 3620, juarez, mexico, 32617
5 stars

"overview of radisson casa grande hotel ciudad juarez
radisson casa grande hotel ciudad juarez information

radisson hotel casa grande cd juarez is the nearest hotel to the local airport and just 10 minutes drive to any industrial park. great for both business travelers and for those that come on pleasure alike. our four story hotel features: complimentary wireless high speed internet available in all guest rooms, meeting rooms and lobby. -suites -regional and national cuisine the radisson casa grande juarez is situated in the main business district, approximately ten minutes driving distance from the local airport and 15 minutes from the el paso border. local attractions include two shopping centers, industrial parks, and the mision de los lagos golf club. hotel amenities include room service, bilingual staff, free secured parking, lobby bar, outdoor pool, and complimentary gym. onsite drinks and dining are available in the los nogales restaurant and the casa grande bar.
location:

hotel is located in juarez, mexico near avenue ramon rivera lara. driving directions: -from el paso texas -cross cordoba bridge take lincoln ave. turn left on avenue paseo triunfo de la republica, 8 miles ahead at the corner of avenue technologico and ramon rivera lara on the left hand side is radisson hotel casa grande cd juarez -from chihuahua -take technologico avenue to north drive 220 continue on technologico avenue until the corner of ramon rivera lara avenue you will see the radisson on the right hand side guest rooms feature 25inch cable tvs, a/c, coffee

$55-$85

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