Ciudad Juarez

[Treewalker]

One day he wants revenge on and other board members, the next its a chica who "mistreated him".

A frog and a scorpion named 2479 are sitting on the banks of a river. Scorpion says, “Frog, can you swim me across the river?” Frog says, “No! you’ll sting me!” To which scorpion replies, “I wouldn’t do that, if I were to sting you we would both drown.” So as they are crossing the river, scorpion stings frog. As they are sinking into the river frog asks, “Why did you sting me?” “Because I'm a scorpion named 2479,” replies scorpion.

The moral of the story (for Mugroso) is don't take money or advertisments from a scorpion/snake named 2479.

[Mugroso]

it is good to have friends. i recieved a pm from someone here informing me that 2479 wants to take out an ad in the paper for my website. well how nice considering it is of a vindictive nature to expose a "massage therapist".

well first of all, it is called the world wide web not the juarez wide web. if he wants to make up he should buy an ad here on the isg or the usasexguide. additionally it should not be to expose some chica. we run into bad attitudes all the time in various forms and the best thing to do is move on.

there was no harm done. i have a great new payment processor, paypal did not keep my money. i simply moved on. i bet i lost sales by using paypal because they want too much information from people.

but really, it’s not about me or my website, its about you guys (and the ladies). if he wants to make it up, he should treat us all with more respect and stop calling us gringos, and us being on social security. many of the guys i have met here on the forum are great guys who are professionals and know the value of money and a good time.

"gems" don't necessarily mean a good time. mostly bad attitude and guys here know that and are willing to take a step down to be with a lady who treats him like a king.

he should take criticism for what it is worth. i believe borderjumper said it best, “you have to have a thick skin on the forums” or something to that effect. telling a guy he is stupid for not using condoms is good advice. it will never be against the forum rules to give good advice on this subject.

treat the ladies with a little more respect as well. best example is pecker will’s recent bad experience. it was short, sweet and to the point.

the isg is the best forum on the internet and the juarez thread here is the most active compared to other forums. this is my little home on the net.

mugroso

[Clydesdale]

Most of the bars were dead, Queens, Virginias, Las Vegas, Dia y Noche, etc. Hollywood was really hopping. Aracely was back from having her baby and was looking pretty good. Eduardo's had three good looking babes, which surprised me, so I sat down for a beer. They do 2 for 1s there which pissed me off. All that means is you have to buy 2 when you only want one. Next time I'll get a coke. The babes were two slender ones and one with a medium build. All three had nice firm looking bodies. I didn't get their names, but may return to see if any want to go to the room.

[KnightMove]

Again stuck running from AZ to TX and back this year, my dismay at two 17 hour drives was leavened a bit by recollecting last years' find; a ten minute drive, a twenty minute walk, and I'd be in 60 cent monger heaven... once each way!

I did some research beforehand this time, and went in armed with a couple printed out maps and a list of MP's and the like. Sadly, though, timing didn't work out well for me on the way out, it was 4am by the time I rolled thru El Paso, and I reluctantly skipped my stop on the Eastbound leg. Westbound didn't go as well as I'd have liked either, putting me in El Paso at 8pm, after sundown. While I'm not unwilling to roam around in the darkened streets, I wasn't at the point where I wanted to do so while referring to maps and moving away from the border... particularly when I discovered that my maps were barely legible with their tiny print in the dim lights of the Jaurez streets at night.

Still, I had a backup plan; Sans Soucci. Strictly by memory, I waked down the Ave. Jaurez to the street with an M.M. name, took a right, down a few blocks and there it was. A block before, I noted that a block north there was a bar or something called the Green Lantern, or Lintera Verde, which I recalled from my research as another possibility, although one I hadn't located on a map.

I passed several probable SWs on the M.M., near and past what seemed to be the "gymnasium" that I've seen referred to on ISG, but wasn't interested in going that route, so I didn't even try to catch their eyes. Of course also passed several taxi drivers (on the Ave J.) most of whom offered to take me to "girls" and at least one guy at a street corner with no taxi around who asked if I was looking for a lady... a tout? A pimp? A really unattractive and masculine lady? "no Gracias" and walked right past em all.

Walking into the Sans Soucci was like walking into an oven; temperature outside was plummeting, down under 50F and cooling rapidly, but they had the heat on in the bar. I looked around the room for a minute or two, nobody really caught my eye so I went back out and back over to the L. Verde, poked my head in there to see a brightly lit room with a small cluster of people standing in a circle in the middle, little if any furniture... well, it just didn't look like anything I was interested in, so I went back out and decided to check the S. Soucci more closely.

Went in and sat at the bar, got a coca fria (coke with ice) and... sat there, ignored. There were about 10 ladies in the place, ranging from 4s to 7s, but I wasn't getting eye contact from any of the ones that I found interesting, and wasn't making eye contact from the other half for fear they would come over to me. There was a hostess sort of lady in a long red dress with a tag pinned to the front, and some short local guy with a handfull of bills who also seemed to work there, and a few other gringos sitting at the bar, playing pool, or sitting with a couple of the ladies, nothing much happened for quite some time, a half hour or more, just guys nursing their drinks, ladies sitting and talking to each other. A couple of the guys did finally get up and go out with some ladies they'd been sitting with, and a couple more just left. There had to be twice as many ladies and, for that matter, guys, in the place as the times I'd been there last year, and yet somehow it wasn't nearly as hustling as it had been before.

Eventually, though, I'd settled on one lady, on the short side but with her hair up in a top of the head ponytail, nice face and decent looking figure as far as I could tell (one complaint I had was that since the ladies were pretty much all sitting down, it was hard to get any real idea what their figures were; if you're selling a product it seems like you'd want to advertise it at least by strolling around a bit) and was trying to catch her eye to get her to come over to me... apparantly no longer the operating plan since it did no good at all.

Then I noticed another lady, with a really deep brunette hairstyle and a dress cut much better than anyone else in the place, really nice looking, a good 9 in the middle of the 7 and under grouping. I was still interested in the little blonde, too, but now I was splitting my "psychic powers" between the Rubia and this brunette, figuring I'd go with whichever came over to me first.

Eventually, after quite a while, the brunette moved from her spot at the bar and walked by me, I managed finally to get her attention and she sat next to me and started a conversation. Turns out she's Jackie, speaks pretty good english, and is able to do a decent job of deciphering my spanishlike noises. I bought her a beer and we sat around for quite a while, chatting some, she gets me chair dancing, and she chatted with the lady on the stool to her right. She's nice, I like her, we aren't really making a lot of chemistry here, but on the other hand she's as pretty up close as she looked half a room away.

Jackie finished her beer and indicated that I could buy her another, which I did and then asked if she wanted to get a room... much to my surprise she said no! Turns out she's not available for that, she's some kind of hostess, there to chat with the guys and keep everyone happy or something! Turning on a dime I accept this without batting more than an eyelash... well no, I do spend a sentence or two getting it straight, but still I'm relatively smooth in changing gears, I tell her she needs to help me pick someone out then, smiling but conspirational. We discuss the merits of some of the ladies, but honestly she's not helpful, has pretty much a neutral position. I do get her to go get the Rubia for me though, and at the same time taunt Jackie with the fact that nobody ever dances on the stage. She claims they do... and then to prove it to me, says she will if I'll come tip her.

The blonde is Monica, I get her a beer and then drag her over to an empty couch next to the stage, where Jackie dances. Really really nice looking, I'm forced to upgrade my 9 to a 9.5 even thouigh my personal taste is for larger breasts... and she can dance as well as anyone in the better topless bars back in the states (very often the full nude bars, and the few mexican strip clubs, I've been to, the dancers aren't really very skillful, making up for lack of skill or enthusiasm by their willingness to go further over the line). Not dirty, but flirtatious and... pneumatic. I tip her a couple bucks first dance, then spend a minute or two convincing Monica to use my money to tip her a couple the second (she told me during her first dance that she was going to do three, so to stick around), then I tip her a couple more during her third; down to string bikini is as far as she goes. Pretty, but I'm glad I've already got arrangements to go all the way with Monica, because the "look but don't touch" thing from Jackie really wasn't what I was over the border looking for. Another guy tips Jackie before she's done with her set, and another of the ladies gets up to dance afterwards, most of the room has now moved over into the dance area, guess I started something.

Oh, Monica finished her first beer, and asked me for a second but I declined... then I relented after she tipped Jackie for me.

Anyway, now to business, I told Monica it was time for a room (un quatro, er cuarto, I mangled) She flagged down that guy with the cash in hand, who got me the red gown Sra. with the pinned on tag, who really couldn't communicate well with me at all. Eventually, after 6 or 7 blind alleys, we established that the rate was 60 cents and I had walked, not come with a driver (she said the rate before establishing about the driver thing, so I bet the real rate is less but she decided to just pocket it)... then after I'd paid she had the nerve to demand a tip... which I, soft touch always especially when sex is involved, ponied up, another 10 cents, despite the fact that she'd been of no help in arranging matters beforehand (I'd forced Jackie to do that) and was actually a hinderance in arranging the room itself. Next time, though, I guess I'd go straight for her or whoever seemed to be doing her job and -get- help, as the ladies don't seem to be on the make at all.

OK, so out we go, into the cold, a guy at the door walks us along to the next door and we go in and up the stairs. A woman up there comes in and puts a roll of TP on the bed with a condom on top, I show her one I brought with and give her that one back, but give her the two cents she was asking for anyway... its not the money (although at the Pink Lady I was asked Ten cents for one last year, so was happy I had my own and turned theirs down) but rather that I don't want some no name brand and -do- have a happier time in a Trojan Magnum, no tight squeeze.

Since Monica has left the door open, I ignore my usual plan of getting undressed while waiting for the lady to finish whatever it is they all seem to wander off to do. When she does arrive, I undress, she undresses, we fumble around on the bed for a little bit, then she starts in on the Magnum, which she's surprised isn't the regular brand but figures out quickly. She decides to sit on the edge of the bed and have me come around to stand in front of her, does the magic "rolling it on with her lips" trick and then a yeomanly job of the oral portion of the exam. When Ive had my fill of that she rapidly moves into kneeling there in the same place for some standing (on my part) K9, and I play around a bit with my thumb in the quarterback sneak play. Then we move on to missionary in several variations, she's left on her high heeled boots and I have some fun using the heels as handlebars, finally finishing rolling her partway onto her side and going back to the "sneak" with my pinky. I rarely go so far as getting actual Greek, just the suggestion of it like this is often more than I can withstand.

After, I give Monica a sitting shoulder and back rub for a while as we talk some more, then she skips out for a brief shower, offers me one but I'm planning on getting one at a truck stop back in the states where the floor is cleaner and the hot water more reliable. On her return, I ask her if on some other visit "sexo anal" might be available, I -think- the answer in general was yes but she had strong doubts in my case, which in addition to needing to bring my own Fechas along is another down side to the whole Magnum issue.

Having been on the road for a couple days, I'm not up to facing the cold and wandering around looking for another go, so I head back for the border and thats the end of my little adventure.

[Elwood Blues]

I saw Sofia there the last time I was there...she looked a little snotty so I chose Jackie., who, turns out, wasn't much better. They need more like Vanessa! Damn she's good!

[KnightMove]

Roughly a year ago I had to run from Arizona to Texas and back, and stopped over in Juarez to check out the action. I took a taxi to a strip club, Pink Lady I think it was, where I got fairly unsatisfying performance for something over a buck five. I thought to walk around and explore other venues in the area, so I'd told my taxi to leave me there, and took a different exit to avoid him following me around and raising my rates at other spots as if he'd driven me in. Sadly, though, there was as far as I could discern no "redlight" district nearby, and I ended up just walking back to the border using dead reckoning; I moved diagonally thru the city such that I'd be sure to hit either the border or Avenida Juarez, and kept my eyes open.

Well, I somehow managed to stumble accross this place, Sans Soucci, which had somewhat suggestive signage out front, so I ducked in to give it a shot, and got lucky. Nominally a strip club, there's -one- stage and nobody dancing on it, just a bar and a bunch of couches and a pool table. I have a seat and a beer and fairly quickly manage to get the details out of a lovely lady sitting with me; you pay inside, 60 cents, then go outside to some a seperate entrance and up to a room, where a maid hits you up for a couple more bucks for a "fecha" and roll of tissue, then you've got a half hour of fun with the lady, full service already paid for.

I get directions back to the border afterwards, turns out I was right on track, its just a few more blocks over to Ave. Juarez and then about 5 blocks north to the border itself.

On the way back to AZ a few days later, I stopped in again, this time running straight over to Sans Soucci, the lady I got this time wasn't quite as much fun, an hit me up for a tip afterwards, adding another 10 cents to the visit, but it was still a much better deal than anything I've found in Nogales in the past couple years.

I don't remember the name of either lady now, a year later, both were short, mildly plump latinas, in the 7-8 area of the scale, with the room in general running 5-8, both sessions were fully covered half and half, multiple positions... That Pink Lady session was rushed and the lady "didn't do oral" and was otherwise very restrictive, not playful, missionary only.

[Cienega32]

Perhaps she reads the forum?

[Member #2479]

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[Coyote79]

Okay, let me do the cry baby routine here. But after hearing some glowing reports on two gals at Tiffany's, I gave it a try today. The service sucked every which way.

I'm easy going and have been doing the scene here in J town for nearly four years. But first I had Paloma who was worse than a dry fish. I paid her $350 pesos for supposedly 60 minutes. Then I couldn't even get a hard-on with her attitude and dry service. So I ask for Alejandra and paid another $250. She was just as bad or worse.

I was pissed, threw the towel on the floor, got dressed and stomped out asking for the manager. He was right there and I was pissed and ask for my money back. Of course, I knew what the answer would be. To make a long story short I told him why I was pissed - "the service sucks". He spoke english. I told him "audios and I'm posting this on the internet". Of course, he doesn't care.

But do I have a vote of confidence here on my experience? I'd like to see a total boycott of Tiffany's. Okay, maybe I'm getting out of hand here. But, listen, guys, if you see me picketing out front - will you give me a honk for support??? I sure would appreciate it. And you'll all go to heaven if you give me that support.

P.S. I was actully thinking that Alejandra was Fernanda or Jacqueline that I had heard about. But I sure bombed out. Thanks for listening. And if you shed a tear for me, you'll have a front seat in heaven.

Take care.
PW

I don't go there anyway 'cause. . .
(1) the manager pounds on the door after about 40 minutes
(2) it's too far from the bridge--it's a pain to get to

BTW, I'd be happy to get a seat in the bleachers in heaven
(heaven won't take me & hell is afraid I'll take over)

[Mugroso]

I'm posting this on the internet". Of course, he doesn't care.

I'd like to see a total boycott of Tiffany's. PW

That is too bad you didn't have a good time there. I have had Paloma and she was great both times, really nasty.

Posting on the internet is what these forums are all about, preferably I like to hear about good times but the bad ones are just as informative. Unfortunately in order for a ban to go into effect, more people have to actually experience the bad time.

I have been to Tiffany's several times and not once did I see Fernanda or Jaqueline.

Better luck next time Pecker Will
Mugroso

[Pimpollo]

The service at tiffanys sucks the only good enough is Fernanda but she always asks for a tip. I prefer genesis (paola) or corpus (selene)

[Pecker Will]

Okay, let me do the cry baby routine here. But after hearing some glowing reports on two gals at Tiffany's, I gave it a try today. The service sucked every which way.

I'm easy going and have been doing the scene here in J town for nearly four years. But first I had Paloma who was worse than a dry fish. I paid her $350 pesos for supposedly 60 minutes. Then I couldn't even get a hard-on with her attitude and dry service. So I ask for Alejandra and paid another $250. She was just as bad or worse.

I was pissed, threw the towel on the floor, got dressed and stomped out asking for the manager. He was right there and I was pissed and ask for my money back. Of course, I knew what the answer would be. To make a long story short I told him why I was pissed - "the service sucks". He spoke english. I told him "audios and I'm posting this on the internet". Of course, he doesn't care.

But do I have a vote of confidence here on my experience? I'd like to see a total boycott of Tiffany's. Okay, maybe I'm getting out of hand here. But, listen, guys, if you see me picketing out front - will you give me a honk for support??? I sure would appreciate it. And you'll all go to heaven if you give me that support.

P.S. I was actully thinking that Alejandra was Fernanda or Jacqueline that I had heard about. But I sure bombed out. Thanks for listening. And if you shed a tear for me, you'll have a front seat in heaven.

Take care.
PW

[Clydesdale]

And did that client have a big wallet or a big horse dick?

Must have been the wallet.

[Mugroso]

There was an after work fight at Las Vegas last Thursday because one girl stole another's client.

And did that client have a big wallet or a big horse dick?

[Clydesdale]

Once you have been with them the feel they own you. I had a friend that was on a river boat in Vietnam and he had a girl in every village or town he patrolled by and he had to keep the pictures straight in his wallet or he would get a lot of grief. I had a girl at the Pink Lady that felt that I was her property and she told all the other girls to stay away from me. I was told that the Management told her not to come back after more behavior with other customers like that. I hear she is working at one of the other clubs now but I am not looking for her.

Enjoy Guys,

Gntlman Mongr

There was an after work fight at Las Vegas last Thursday because one girl stole another's client.