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  1. #958
    Thank you Bbond. I appreciate the information. I will stay at the Fiesta. It is right next to the Herrudera, right? What is the going rate for a ground floor room? I speak mediocre Spanish. Just enough to get by and not be considered a complete gringo. Will they attempt to get the gringo precio or are the rates pretty standard? Do they usually have rooms available? I'm planning on just crossing the bridge on foot with my luggage as I always do. Would it be smart to just show up or get somewhat of a reservation?

    The two hooker hotels near there. What are their names? I am going to go down from Friday through Sunday and mix my time between dowtown and Boystown and will post my report. Thanks for all the great information. It has served me well over the years.

  2. #957
    Quote Originally Posted by PussyFish
    Hi,
    I've heard so many pros and cons about the Fiesta. Is there another alternative near there that is chica friendly and maybe a tad bit nicer. Or is the Fiesta nice enough? I'm just looking for a somewhat clean and safe base of operations for the weekend. Any and all advice would be appreciated.
    The Fiesta downtown and the Matamoros are where most of the guys I know stay. Some prefer one over the other, I prefer the Fiesta. When staying at the Fiesta, I would give the girl my room number and have her meet me there, just let the desk guy know a girl is coming and to let her pass. Never had a problem.
    And I know several guys that prefer the Matamoros. The girls know where both places are.
    At the Fiesta, try to get a ground room floor, they are away from the traffic side.

  3. #956
    Quote Originally Posted by Imran M
    How do you guys get lucky in NL Downtown? I went to horseshoe bar and montero couple times but didnt see any cute ones.
    Imran
    There are a number of very cute girls that work the downtown bars. However they are not always working. Timing is everything, sometimes the pickings are slim, and sometimes none. Some days you will be very disappointed. Sometimes, especially Friday and Saturday nights, you will be amazed.

  4. #955
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy One 1
    So I'm new to the downtown bar scene (herradura, intimo, montera) and I have been with five downtown bar girls now. ALL bad experiences.

    (1) older chica (like 40+), very aggressive, sessioned with her only to find out that she was on her period that night. First night in the montera.

    (2) cutie, bought drinks for her all night and then she just disappeared after "promising" to go to the hotel with me. Wasted money on all the fichas.

    (3) thicker chica, darker, had BBFS with her and I think I caught something. Saw suspicious marks and it turned out I had genital warts, finally got rid of it

    (4) same thicker chica, darker, had BBFS again with her (I know really stupid, but I wasn't sure I got it from her. Now I am) and I got strep throat and new suspicious marks on my penis. Not genital warts this time, but raised red bumps, itchy as hell. Never ever going with this chica again.

    (5) girl named Isabella. Took her to hotel. She said she needed 200 pesos to get her health card. I said yes. Leaves with my money and never returns. Suspiciously another girl is hanging out in the lobby of the hotel matamoros. Probably knew I was going to get scammed and she wanted to pick up the last minute business.

    BTW, all of these girls worked at the montera. I like the montera because it is usually packed with people. But 90% of the time in all the downtown bars the girls are fat, ugly, and dirty. I don't know of this downtown paradise you guys speak of. I prefer to go to BT and get with a professional who is much more likelier to be clean and good service.

    Bbond and others. What am I doing wrong? Where are these cute girls that are clean, good GFE, and don't give you STDs? Do I have to look Mexican and speak fluent spanish? Or live in Nuevo Laredo to get the same service?

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    Same here guys. I live in San Antonio and visit NL often. I did try downtown but never found any sweetheart except one time, in a bar where you will see girls dancing on rooftop (top of the main gate).

    First time I was in Downtown, one gringo told to me to visit this place cuz he thought this was more of a young/middle age club. Went in and found out cover was 50 pesos. Saw a very cute girl sitting in the bar with her friend. Went up to her and bought her drinks and did my thing.

    I just dont know the name of that place and if any of you guys go there. I am not sure if thats a mogers paradise but did get lucky that one time.

    How do you guys get lucky in NL Downtown? I went to horseshoe bar and montero couple times but didnt see any cute ones.

    Thanks alot friends.

    Imran

  5. #954

    A year late

    I'm coming up on the one year anniversary on my trip to NL. I don't travel much internationally so wasn't sure if my post is even worthwhile, but here it is. I speak enough spanish to get into trouble. The more I drink, the better I speak (or so it seems to me-I just recall how to say more stuff and get more creative in communicating).

    I researched the board carefully before travel and had some luck running into a fellow gringo at my hotel who took me under his wing. Here's how it happened. Walked across the bridge and directly to the Hotel Matamoros in the mid-morning. As I was checking in and asking questions about why the prices are different depending upon what floor, the other gringo stepped in and told me to pay for the more expensive room. The rooms on the upper level get hot. Still pretty cheap-$34 if I recall correctly. The hotel was fairly quiet and monger friendly. We went to breakfast, and he showed me around downtown. He told me where to go and pointed out a few tourist tidbits, including more stuff about the gangs and police than I really wanted to even know. The guy was connected, and I don't even want to know how close or with whom, based upon some of the people he was hanging with that day.

    I had a great time. I drank frozen margaritas at the little square across the street from La Montera, which wasd totally dead until mid-afternoon. At that point, there still weren't many people there, but I went with my new friend and drank a couple of beers. He introduced me to a woman who was a little heavier than I like, but very nice and clean. We went back to my room for a mutual massage and covered BJ for 40. She then kind of glommed on to me when we went back to Montera. My new gringo friend was gone. Stayed there and drank awhile. I told her that I wanted to try out the Horseshoe Bar, so she walked with me over there. It was dead. Porn playing on the tv. Nothing going on. I told her that I wanted to go back to the room and rest.

    Instead, I went back to Montera without her, and it was crowded at this point. Pretty soon, I had made some new friends. Drinking was getting expensive with my new friends, so I started dancing with some of the girls. That was a real blast and less expensive. The girl I was with earlier showed up and shook her finger at me, knowing I had ditched her. No problems. My gringo friend showed up when I was at the table with about 6 girls and gave me a big smile.

    Eventually, I had two girls that were kind of fighting over me, and they clearly didn't like each other. One was petite, maybe 25, very hot body, and she had been squeezing my hand, playing footsie under the table, licking my ear. She was giving me a raging hard-on. The other one was 23, very cute, short and chesty. Not really my type physically, but we had been having a really good time dancing and drinking. The second one kept telling me that she wanted to get away from the first one and go to my hotel. I told her that I was really looking for an all-nighter. Was she interested? She nodded and told me 85. I agreed and we left.

    I still have fantasies about what it would have been like to be with the first one, but I'm pretty sure I made the right choice. My girl had a car and told me that she needed to go back to her place before she could stay for all night. I had red flags going off, but I went with the flow and it turned out well. I generally have good luck in following my gut.

    After a short drive, during which we saw many police driving around, she left me in the car and went into her apartment. Came back a short time later with a small bag. Drove back to a parking lot near Hotel Matamoros. We passed a bar that we could hear loud music coming out of, and I asked her about it. She laughed, grabbed my arm, and took me in. It was a transvestite bar with loud music and dancing. I tried to pull her out, but she wanted to party and dance. We had a drink here and danced awhile. It was weird and funny.

    Then we walked back to my room quickly-because I had been warned about being out on the sidewalk as far as the policia. On the drive, I saw police driving around in pickup trucks but fortunately none on our walk.

    It was very much a GFE night. We took a shower together and played and talked most of the night. At some point, she asked me to marry her. I'm not sure if she was serious or not. But I told her that wasn't going to happen. She seemed only mildly disappointed and we played again after that. I went through four condoms by morning. Turns out she was probably an amateur. She told me that she worked at a store downtown and had only been in NL for a few weeks. She gave me her number, and we went through all of the contacts in her cell phone with her telling me about family and friends. Around 5 am she told me that she had to go. I paid her $100. We hugged, and then I headed back to the border. The border guard gave me a strange look when I passed through. I had a wicked hangover and realized that my shirt was half unbuttoned (crooked) and half tucked in. I pretty much looked like a mess. Still have good memories of the trip. I owe thanks to the board and to my gringo friend and to Lady Luck. If I lived closer, I'd probably get into mucho trouble.

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  6. #953

    Fiesta Alternatives?

    Hi,

    I've been to Nuevo Laredo twice now and have had great experiences at both downtown and at Boystown. Each time I"ve always stayed at the now changed Hilton Garden Inn. I always just took cabs downtown and used the rooms above the Herrudera and then cabs to boystown. This time I would like to stay downtown for a couple of days. I've heard so many pros and cons about the Fiesta. Is there another alternative near there that is chica friendly and maybe a tad bit nicer. Or is the Fiesta nice enough? I'm just looking for a somewhat clean and safe base of operations for the weekend. Any and all advice would be appreciated.

  7. #952

    Downtown bar scene = no luck for newbie

    So I'm new to the downtown bar scene (herradura, intimo, montera) and I have been with five downtown bar girls now. ALL bad experiences.

    (1) older chica (like 40+), very aggressive, sessioned with her only to find out that she was on her period that night. First night in the montera.

    (2) cutie, bought drinks for her all night and then she just disappeared after "promising" to go to the hotel with me. Wasted money on all the fichas.

    (3) thicker chica, darker, had BBFS with her and I think I caught something. Saw suspicious marks and it turned out I had genital warts, finally got rid of it

    (4) same thicker chica, darker, had BBFS again with her (I know really stupid, but I wasn't sure I got it from her. Now I am) and I got strep throat and new suspicious marks on my penis. Not genital warts this time, but raised red bumps, itchy as hell. Never ever going with this chica again.

    (5) girl named Isabella. Took her to hotel. She said she needed 200 pesos to get her health card. I said yes. Leaves with my money and never returns. Suspiciously another girl is hanging out in the lobby of the hotel matamoros. Probably knew I was going to get scammed and she wanted to pick up the last minute business.

    BTW, all of these girls worked at the montera. I like the montera because it is usually packed with people. But 90% of the time in all the downtown bars the girls are fat, ugly, and dirty. I don't know of this downtown paradise you guys speak of. I prefer to go to BT and get with a professional who is much more likelier to be clean and good service.

    Bbond and others. What am I doing wrong? Where are these cute girls that are clean, good GFE, and don't give you STDs? Do I have to look Mexican and speak fluent spanish? Or live in Nuevo Laredo to get the same service?

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  8. #951

    Dumb gringo rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Bbond
    ALWAYS, when a girl quotes in dollars, counter offer in pesos at 10: 1, most will accept, if she don't then get a peso quote. Most of the girls in the Herradura ask US$50 but will settle for 400-500 pesos. I had one tonight ask US$80, told her to get lost. Many, and I mean many, will go for 300.

    Remember, looks, has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with service. I have had some stunners that will never repeat and some so-so lookers that are welcome anytime. Sometimes the best lookers are the worst, and you would be sorry to take one.

    The Herradura is a clique type club, except late weekend nights when other bars close, I sincerely believe the girls there have an agreement on what to charge as they nearly always ask US$50.

    Another word of advice, NEVER, BUT NEVER, pay in advance, if she don't trust that you will pay, tell her to beat it, get lost, c-ya. I have been asked to pay up front, or show the money, there again, run her out, before she gets naked, her service is not going to be worth a shit. Pay if she performs as promised, otherwise she can summon the polica if you rip her off, I have seen it done.

    FWIW: I DO NOT practice what I preach. Come on, I live here, I speak good Spanish, most girls, even the ones I don't know, know my name, I have a reputation that some girls respect and others hate me for.

    My advice is meant to the unknowing that venture here, I hate to see someone taken and it happens too often. Which spoils it for everyone else. The Mexican mentality is that ALL Americans are made of money, and will try to take advantage of them.

    Information is king, act like you know what you are doing, read and learn from the forums, it pays. I have seen so many dumb-asses it isn't even real.

    There are guys that come here, that only visit once in a great while. Some have money to burn, there is nothing one can do or say in those cases.
    Gringos are white guys who does not speak Spanish. Just in case someone is reading this from Boston.

    I do read the reports and use all the great info I can get. I read several times that $50 dollars was the going rate in Herradura. I do not scream rich gringo upon entering the bars but most girls do hear this upon me entering the bar. I also don't believe I can get a local rate unless I have a guide or BBond next to me. Its not only girls but shops that charge a gringo premium. Its also really hard to persuade when you don't speak the language. Having a guide will help but then you have to pay him. Picking the wrong guide can also make your night awful. Its a Mexican tradition to take advantage of the gringo.

    I switched to peso upon hearing how you can pay the girls 10 to 1 rate when trading in dollars. Great info I got from this site. I have always payed using dollars. It did not work out as planned. I will try just negotiating in peso next time.

    I have no excuse for paying in advance. I can guarantee it won't happen again. I will remember that experience for a long time.

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  9. #950
    Bbond knows his stuff I have been dopwn theire a couple of times and hung out with him So pay attention when he speaks I have learned alot from him about downtown NL.

  10. #949
    Quote Originally Posted by Dodger1308
    Just my 5 cents.
    But if you are prepared to pay $50 downtown.
    You are going to get ripped off.
    There is no need to throw your money away like that.
    You just spoil it for the rest of us.
    Negotiate in pesos in the bar before you even say yes.
    300 pesos should do the trick.
    Negotiate what you want.
    And make sure there will be no rushing.
    Also put the money on the tv / table.
    And tell her she can take it once you are finished.
    If you pay up front what incentive does she have.
    To give you great service.
    Locals would never pay $50.
    And they get the best service from the girls.
    As the girls know they are a regular meal ticket.
    It would help you a lot to buy one of the locals a beer or 5.
    And get to see the downtown scene through their eyes.
    Bbond is without doubt the go to guy for this area.
    I will be there in about 10 days.
    Can't wait for my 300 pesos girls.
    ALWAYS, when a girl quotes in dollars, counter offer in pesos at 10:1, most will accept, if she don't then get a peso quote. Most of the girls in the Herradura ask US$50 but will settle for 400-500 pesos. I had one tonight ask US$80, told her to get lost. Many, and I mean many, will go for 300.
    Remember, looks, has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with service. I have had some stunners that will never repeat and some so-so lookers that are welcome anytime. Sometimes the best lookers are the worst, and you would be sorry to take one.
    The Herradura is a clique type club, except late weekend nights when other bars close, I sincerely believe the girls there have an agreement on what to charge as they nearly always ask US$50.
    Another word of advice, NEVER, BUT NEVER, pay in advance, if she don't trust that you will pay, tell her to beat it, get lost, c-ya. I have been asked to pay up front, or show the money, there again, run her out, before she gets naked, her service is not going to be worth a shit. Pay if she performs as promised, otherwise she can summon the polica if you rip her off, I have seen it done.

    FWIW: I DO NOT practice what I preach. Come on, I live here, I speak good Spanish, most girls, even the ones I don't know, know my name, I have a reputation that some girls respect and others hate me for.
    My advice is meant to the unknowing that venture here, I hate to see someone taken and it happens too often. Which spoils it for everyone else. The Mexican mentality is that ALL Americans are made of money, and will try to take advantage of them.
    Information is king, act like you know what you are doing, read and learn from the forums, it pays. I have seen so many dumb-asses it isn't even real.
    There are guys that come here, that only visit once in a great while. Some have money to burn, there is nothing one can do or say in those cases.

  11. #948

    Questions

    I went down last Thursday and caught Doc and his red dodge van for a ride to BT. He and others were still available at Exit 13 on the TA side. Had a good time with a nice group of drivers. Found a very freindly and attractive lady at Danish. I had not been to NL for a while and now I want to return and stay a couple of nights spliting my time between BT and downtown. I hope to get some help on a couple of questions. What is the best way to reach a good safe parking area to leave my car for a couple of days and which bridge is it near? I have seen the report on how to get to the Fiesta but am somewhat confused as to which bridge to cross. Also I have looked at many past posts and still have not seen directions to the Intima, Herandura and Montera.

  12. #947

    Flimbar $50

    Just my 5 cents.

    But if you are prepared to pay $50 downtown.

    You are going to get ripped off.

    There is no need to throw your money away like that.

    You just spoil it for the rest of us.

    Negotiate in pesos in the bar before you even say yes.

    300 pesos should do the trick.

    Negotiate what you want.

    And make sure there will be no rushing.

    Also put the money on the tv / table.

    And tell her she can take it once you are finished.

    If you pay up front what incentive does she have.

    To give you great service.

    Locals would never pay $50.

    And they get the best service from the girls.

    As the girls know they are a regular meal ticket.

    It would help you a lot to buy one of the locals a beer or 5.

    And get to see the downtown scene through their eyes.

    Bbond is without doubt the go to guy for this area.

    I will be there in about 10 days.

    Can't wait for my 300 pesos girls.

  13. #946

    First downtown experience

    Date: 3/6/10 Saturday

    I have been going to boystown for several years now. I wanted to try something different and get away from the police check point at boystown. I have heard good things about downtown so I gave it a try.

    Let me start with giving easy directions to find Hotel Fiesta. Walk all the way to the park from the bridge. They had the water fountains working and you can't miss it upon clearing the bridge. Walk down the left hand side of the park and continue down the street for a minute or two at most. You will see the Herradura club on the right and Hotel fiesta is just a 100 feet further on the left. Hotel Fiesta has glass around the building and across the street is a large blue building selling electronics.

    I stayed in room 128 and don't wish that experience on anyone. I could hear the music blazing until five in the morning. It did give me a great view of the Herradura club from the balcony. I could see all the girls coming and going. I payed 375 peso for the room without a TV. Checkout time is 1:00 PM for anyone who needs to sleep in. I also noticed many residents would leave doors open. I don't know if this was a Mexican thing but I had to parade my girl past the on looks. I had several people across from me who never closed their door.

    I left for Herradura club about 10 PM. It has a purple neon light around the roof and side. The place was packed and had a live band. They even had porno on the TV. I saw many girls but could not tell who was working. I would say most were working but not all. I ordered a Corona and it cost 20 pesos on a Saturday. I was soon approached by a girl called Marisela. After saying Hello, and siting down she quickly brought up her trade. She was decent looking with a spinner body. I ordered her a drink which she drank in two seconds. Drinks are the biggest ripoff. She then mentioned 50 dollars for all I could handle. I said fine and we were almost off. She stopped to talk to some girl saying I was taking her to my room. She then mentions police and she takes the left side of the road and I take the right. I still can't get away from worrying about the police. We then go into the lobby with about ten guys giving us the look. She mentions something to the clerk and we head up stairs to my room passing by all the rooms I mentioned were open already.

    I open my door and she barges in. I guess she was checking to see if I had other people waiting for her. She turns into a door girl from boystown in the room. I try to give her 500 pesos for 50 dollars and she will not have it. I then throw in a extra 200 peso and she wants more. I tell her no and she gives in. During the deed she is always asking if I am done ever two minutes. She even tried to leave her shirt on. Worst experience I have had in a long time.

    She demand that I walk her out but changed her mind when my neighbors start talking to her. I say bye and close my door.

    I probably should have gotten another room but stayed in mine tell the morning. No one bothered me as I tried to sleep the night away.

    I felt like I missed fired on this trip. I will give it another try but can't help but miss Danash. As a non Spanish speaker the club was a little hard to manage. On the plus side it was a lot cheaper than when I go to boystown. Spent a little over a hundred dollars counting my room, beer and food.

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  14. #945
    For those that don't know, we have a web site specifically for Nuevo Laredo.
    I can't openly post the url, but can in a PM. It is mainly NL, but we have posters from all over. It's sort of free, like here, but some restrictions may apply. I don't want to take anything away from here, some people post both locations, and I would like that to continue. Most of the posters at the site, in one way or another know each other, but we are very open minded. It is in no way meant to compete with the fine job Jackson does here, complement it, that's all.

  15. #944
    Quote Originally Posted by Lazy One 1
    Hah! perfect answer! i'm surprised it's possible even in BT so i am going to try to negotiate up front before taking her back to the hotel for TLN. i have my "health papers" as well from a Jan STD test (including HIV) so hopefully that will do the trick.
    Thanks for the advice everyone.
    The girl I brought home the other night from the Herradura, BBFS was only 100 pesos extra, my ATF, right now, BBFS is the norm, at least with me.

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