Seeking Arrangements

[Nounce]

You might think I got fooled by some of them, but I didn't. Half of the 24-25 never even asked me for a dime. My SBs included a law student, an accountant, a restaurant owner, a Berkeley undergrad, a PhD student, a website designe.

Just want to add that if the girl is a premiumn member and also is college verified, then she is likely still a student. They are easy to find.

[Big Boss Man]

You are paying way over the odds to have decent sex with the sort of women people in the rest of the world can screw without complication for fifty bucks and still have a fun time (just for reference sake for $500 I think I could book a suite at the Sheraton in my town and get four semi-pro students, secretaries or bank clerks aged 19-22 and have a great evening. They can buy their own dinner on the way home).

So I priced business fare to Jakarta for July which would be $6000. Then I reviewed the Jakarta thread and Hilo77 recommends not going to Jakarta for at least three months. So apparently I can't rent a suite at the Jakarta Sheraton and invite 4 college students up for $500 right now.

So I choose to play where I live and try to find someone semi-exclusive. Hopefully she is only fucking two or three other guys. So I have $6000 in airfare with which to play for the next three months and then I can travel to Jakarta although I would probably go to Europe instead.

So I am choosing to play the fool and spend $2000 a month on Holly Golightly because I find her intriguing. If we could find a groove, I think she would be a good sugar baby.

So yesterday she made a date for this morning. I wrote a friend that I thought there was a good chance she is not going to make it. This morning she postponed it until tomorrow.

So we are playing a little control game right now. I keep telling her she needs to start being a good girl. Maybe a light spanking is in order if she makes it over tomorrow.

I will bail if she cancels tomorrow. But I only have one other in the mix right now. I guess the Korean apartment girls are the best and cheaper option in my town. I need a reference to get into that world.

[Manizales911]

Reading this thread with great fascination and respect for some of the titans of ISG contributing. I'm intrigued but wonder if I've aged out from using this option. If a guys is in his mid 60's (But could pass for 10 years younger) does this mean he's out of the running for many SBs? I've found on some of my mongering trips that sometimes the real young ones (18-22) turn me down. I assume that, while Dad is a fantasy, they just aren't down with blowing grandpa LOL. I have other good attributes. I've got a Dad bod but am not obese. I'm kind, intelligent, funny and most important generous if I get what I want. I'm also with Steve that the chase sounds fun. My home area is way overpriced but when I start traveling domestically I might give it a try.

Another thing, I'm finding early 20's chicas I don't really vibe with. Often more comfortable with 25-35 yo.

I get the feeling that a lot of you guys who are touting SA are 40-50's. What say you about this?

I am almost 63 years old and very much overweight and I have used SA quite a bit. Quite a few girls will not want to go with you but plenty enough will, I have had plenty of good experiences with SA girls and a few bad ones too. I receive several private messages every week from new girls on SA and my profile states my age and my photos depict exactly who and what I am so I don't think you will have a problem sourcing girls.

[Pessimist]

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[Bdb013]

Planning a trip to Mexico for late June, I want to try the SA route in Cancun to start. Another member recommended I meet girls on SA from CDMX and invite them to stay with me in Cancun for a few days. I speak horrible Spanish. Is this doable? If CDMX opens up, I also want to spend a few days there as well. Any thoughts on how easy or hard it is to pull from SA? Any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.

I use SA all the time, here in the states and abroad. Its expensive at $90 a month membership. I typically get a 30 day membership get a few connections made, then let the membership got for a while. Here is my experience with SA. Typically I find university students wanting some extra money. These are usually normal girls with a life. They are beautiful and I haven't had any problems with bait and switch. You can pick girls that speak English if you want that too. I typically get a membership a few weeks before a planned trip, make contacts with the ones I like and weed down to a few before I go. I will get their whatsapp so we can text and exchange better photos. You can get a better feel of what the chica is like. I'm not usually shy with them, I am up front about what I like and I ask them the same. We come to an agreement and schedule time together. I have met some really nice girls this way. I still have some that I continue to text with in Mexico and in Columbia.

I have pretty much done away with the street scene, strip joints and massage polars (except if I'm in Bangkok or Pattaya.) I will do the occasional agency in GDL, but SA is my go to in Mexico. In Colombia, its Colombian Cupid. It works exactly the same way.

Now I do have to say you do have to put in some effort with SA. It takes time to qualify the chicas and some will flake out on you. That's why I start only 2 to 3 weeks out to give me time to establish a connection with the ones I like and keep them interested and cull the rest. Its a lot easier to order in from an agency or go to a strip club, but the effort is well worth it in my opinion.

Let me know how it goes.

[Steve 9696]

Random thoughts for this AM:

1. Internet 101 - DNFTT.

2. Indonesia is not the USA.

[PlayerHater]

Reading this thread with great fascination and respect for some of the titans of ISG contributing. I'm intrigued but wonder if I've aged out from using this option. If a guys is in his mid 60's (But could pass for 10 years younger) does this mean he's out of the running for many SBs? I've found on some of my mongering trips that sometimes the real young ones (18-22) turn me down. I assume that, while Dad is a fantasy, they just aren't down with blowing grandpa LOL. I have other good attributes. I've got a Dad bod but am not obese. I'm kind, intelligent, funny and most important generous if I get what I want. I'm also with Steve that the chase sounds fun. My home area is way overpriced but when I start traveling domestically I might give it a try.

Another thing, I'm finding early 20's chicas I don't really vibe with. Often more comfortable with 25-35 yo.

I get the feeling that a lot of you guys who are touting SA are 40-50's. What say you about this?

If you haven't traveled, I think you will find the success you are looking for in Latin America (or possibly other regions in the world). For me (age 51), SA in Colombia is a goldmine of opportunity. Money doesn't talk there, it yells. In the US, SA where I am at (DC) is tough (in terms of effort) unless I reduce / change my preferences. I prefer the freshness of 18-19 year olds and with a bit of effort, I can get those much more easily in Colombia. I have also sponsored girls (mostly college students) in the 20-24 range in Medelland and they were great sexually and personality-wise. Latin women seem to have a built-in GFE-chip (by and large anyway) so SA is exactly the right tool in that environment. Sponsored sex is widespread culturally in that region so you are not fighting the uphill battle that you may get in feminist\ized countries.

Disclaimer: Being a nice guy has its merits in the right situations but I would not go to the third world unless you are capable of bringing out your inner caveman / asshole when needed.

[Elvis 2008]

Planning a trip to Mexico for late June, I want to try the SA route in Cancun to start. Another member recommended I meet girls on SA from CDMX and invite them to stay with me in Cancun for a few days. I speak horrible Spanish. Is this doable? If CDMX opens up, I also want to spend a few days there as well. Any thoughts on how easy or hard it is to pull from SA? Any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.

Yes, you can travel from city to city just know the flights are few and far between and you can be easily bumped.

[SavePros321]

I've got a Dad bod but am not obese. I'm kind, intelligent, funny and most important generous if I get what I want.

In the dating world, women are always talking about the "Prefect Trifecta" or the three 6's.

They all want a man who has the these 3 attributes:

- 6 feet tall (or taller).

- 6-pack (abs).

- 6 figures (money).

If you can manage 2 of the 3 then you should be good. But if you really want to have a competitive edge, drop the dad bod.

Look into the Ketogenic diet. It's damn near impossible to not lose weight on Keto unless you are not actually doing the Keto diet correctly.

Also, look up Gianluca Vacchi (the rich Italian guy always dancing with his younger girlfriend on Instagram).

He's 52 years old (looks much older actually) but he's gray all over.

He's 5'8, but he has two of the three 6's:

- 6-pack.

- 6-figures (actually 7-8 figures).

Model that guy and make it your own.

Hell, look at Jeff Bezos. Dude used to be a skinny pencil-neck but now is buff as fuck. He's 56 and the chick he left his wife for is a smoke show! (even at 50 yrs old).

[Hilo77]

In an effort to avoid any bickering back and forth, distorting the goal of the forum, I'll try to keep my opinion (bc it is just my opinion) brief.

Hilo77, my fellow monger.

You came off strong, but I'll keep it respectful. We have a stark difference of opinion.

First, you are wrong that SA girls, as a whole, are prostitutes.

So are SBs pretty much prostitutes? Yeah, some, kinda, not really, it's blurry. Would I group a regular SB together with an FKK girl or a regular escort? Hell no!

02.

Thank you for the well-written reply, it's a bit too long for me to answer the points individually but I do take exception to your implication that I did not read the forum. It was reading the forum that had me so drop-jawed in amazement.

All the points I raised related to posts made in the past 10 or so pages. Go back through them and read them if you don't believe me, it's all there, guys blowing hundreds, even thousands of dollars, others proudly proclaiming how they spend weeks lining up their dates, others admitting that they get stood up on a regular basis etc.

The levels of misty-eyed sentimentality and gullibility on display here (do I even need to draw your attention to the post just below yours?) leaves one stunned at how some of these guys even manage a checking account never mind how they got to be the successful rich captains of industry that they paint themselves as.

Perhaps you are filtering out posts that don't suit the idea of sophisticated, older men playing mentor to young, but mature girls who are just seeking to be initiated and guided by a wise and beneficent man of the world. Look that's nice, if that's what your fantasy is, have at it and more power to your elbow.

But you will forgive me if I read a lot of sad old guys with more money than sense chasing after a bunch of semi-pros (we can call them courtesans, gentlemen's companions, high class escorts or part-time models, if that makes it sound better) and getting increasingly desperate as the Holly Golightly of their dreams appears to be holding off for an extra hundred bucks or she ain't going to show when they arrive in her home town on their much-anticipated monthly mid-week business trip.

Like I say, I am sorry if I sound like I am raining on anyone's parade, if this is the fantasy world you want to create please enjoy it but be aware of who and what you are dealing with here guys. They're prostitutes, sure they're not standing on a street corner in a red PVC skirt and thigh high boots or sitting bored in a bikini in an Amsterdam shop window but that is nonetheless what they are, no matter how much you try to convince yourselves otherwise.

You are paying way over the odds to have decent sex with the sort of women people in the rest of the world can screw without complication for fifty bucks and still have a fun time (just for reference sake for $500 I think I could book a suite at the Sheraton in my town and get four semi-pro students, secretaries or bank clerks aged 19-22 and have a great evening. They can buy their own dinner on the way home).

I guess that's America for you, it's grim but such is life in the Land of the Free.

[Steve 9696]

Reading this thread with great fascination and respect for some of the titans of ISG contributing. I'm intrigued but wonder if I've aged out from using this option. If a guys is in his mid 60's (But could pass for 10 years younger) does this mean he's out of the running for many SBs? I've found on some of my mongering trips that sometimes the real young ones (18-22) turn me down. I assume that, while Dad is a fantasy, they just aren't down with blowing grandpa LOL. I have other good attributes. I've got a Dad bod but am not obese. I'm kind, intelligent, funny and most important generous if I get what I want. I'm also with Steve that the chase sounds fun. My home area is way overpriced but when I start traveling domestically I might give it a try.

Another thing, I'm finding early 20's chicas I don't really vibe with. Often more comfortable with 25-35 yo.

I get the feeling that a lot of you guys who are touting SA are 40-50's. What say you about this?

HB. Dude. So great to have you join the party. Ignore the recent trolls SA is the only worthy game in town in the USA. Especially if you like the game as I know you do. Age is manageable. 25-35% of girls age doesn't really matter much and 15% prefer significantly older. I do think hair color matters. You can be 75 and as long as your hair isn't full on gray or white they will overlook a lot of the rest. Gray hair seems to be a psychological barrier to some. Of course money overcomes many ills.

[Midwestern]

Reading this thread with great fascination and respect for some of the titans of ISG contributing. I'm intrigued but wonder if I've aged out from using this option. If a guys is in his mid 60's (But could pass for 10 years younger) does this mean he's out of the running for many SBs?

I get the feeling that a lot of you guys who are touting SA are 40-50's. What say you about this?

I am in my 50's, but I pretend to be in my 40's on SA. I do this simply because it looks like many SBs filter out guys at 50 and above. But to pull this off, you really have to look like you're whatever age that you say you are.

FWIW, I filter out SBs below 24 years old. Don't get me wrong, I love spending time in the sheets with a 19 year old, but I absolutely hate hanging out and talking with a 19 year old, because we have almost nothing in common to talk about, and given that I consider these SBs to be GFs, I want them to be at least 24 so that we can have fun together outside of the bedroom. So, maybe if you filter out the younger gals, then this puts you less out of the running.

Some of my SBs told me that they had SDs in their 60's and even 70's. But from what they told me, these older guys were not cheap. They lavished the gals with gifts, trips, and shopping. I am not saying that you have to do the same thing. I am just sharing what I was told.

[PilotPaul]

I get the feeling that a lot of you guys who are touting SA are 40-50's. What say you about this?

I am 55+.

When I'm home here in my own country I set my filters at 30-40. I get tired of being lectured by starlets that have no idea of life. Early thirties the sex is the best, 40 has been classy when their body is in good shape.

When I'm overseas in Philippines I only date 20-25 year olds.

I generally will not be seeing any girl over 140 lbs, 70 kgs regardless of age.

As I age I will continue to use money to resolve any age differences.

PP.

[Wupoer]

The discussions lately on this forum has been so good! Thanks gents!

But let us not forget that pussy is never free. Be it SA or Tinder. A man is always expected to pay usually monetarily and let's not forget cost of time.

To me, it is clear that SeekingArrangement specializes in pairing the older mature men with younger women. Older men have a lot of maturity and worldly knowledge that a younger woman could benefit from not just from his money. Both of these things can help set the young woman up on a proper trajectory in life. This is why the older man and younger woman is a more natural pairing since both have what each other needs. The opposite scenario of an older woman and younger man does *not* hold as true. The older women usually lack the physical attributes that (most) younger males could get on his own. Let's face it. Woman do *not* age typically as well as men physically. For one, the vagina takes a beating through its lifetime with childbirth being just one of the assaults a vagina endures!

Don't get me wrong. I'm on SA for pussy myself but I would offer lending hand to my young woman if she wants from my worldly and industry experience. Just as long as she satisfies my physical needs. That doesn't happen with the k-girls I see weekly. With k-girls, there are both language and cultural barriers. With k-girls its 1 HR and that's it.

[Pessimist]

Reading this thread with great fascination and respect for some of the titans of ISG contributing. I'm intrigued but wonder if I've aged out from using this option. If a guys is in his mid 60's (But could pass for 10 years younger) does this mean he's out of the running for many SBs? I've found on some of my mongering trips that sometimes the real young ones (18-22) turn me down. I assume that, while Dad is a fantasy, they just aren't down with blowing grandpa LOL. I have other good attributes. I've got a Dad bod but am not obese. I'm kind, intelligent, funny and most important generous if I get what I want. I'm also with Steve that the chase sounds fun. My home area is way overpriced but when I start traveling domestically I might give it a try.

Another thing, I'm finding early 20's chicas I don't really vibe with. Often more comfortable with 25-35 yo.

I get the feeling that a lot of you guys who are touting SA are 40-50's. What say you about this?

Hi HB,

I am younger than you. So, I can't speak with any certainty related to older men. I will say though that at least some girls will be open minded. You should give it a try. You are saying anyway that you are looking for 25-35 age group. By that age, especially 30+, many girls have taken some hard knocks in life, are realistic. Some may be single moms, some may be stuck in low end jobs like receptionists, etc. These past months have been tough for many girls. They are looking for help. As long as you are kind, intelligent, not too pushy / clingy, normal, you will have a good amount of success. You are old enough that you will not be cheated, you can spot the scammers, you will not get too emotionally attached. Be patient, don't be too conscious of your age. It is only in your head, the girl is likewise inwardly focused and wondering if she is attractive enough for you because she knows you may have other choices.

Being in a overpriced city is unfortunate. Decide beforehand what your budget range is and stay patient and disciplined.

And please do tune out the naysayers and nabobs of negativity from here. A couple of recent posters were rude, clueless and I doubt very much that they had any experience whatsoever with real arrangements to be posting any sensible comments. I have been doing this for 4+ years, have been in arrangements with several dozens of girls / women and by and large they were nice, positive and fulfilling and I am quite positive that they were not with prostitutes. I have only pity for fools who think they know anything about me, the girls I had been with, to be making blanket claims about all guys and girls on a site that has millions of members of both genders. Safely ignore them, give it a try, and stay disciplined most importantly.