Monterrey

[Member #3453]

Everyone's taste is somewhat unique, and you didn't really mention your preferences for MPs, Strip Clubs, or Escorts. So, I will comment subjectively without any particular focus upon your own personal preferences. I am not experienced with the escorts, nor do I enjoy the MPs. So, other than to comment generally, I will leave more recently experienced specifics to another contributor.

Had I only one night, and a partial second day in Monterrey, I would put the following strip clubs on my agenda, not spending a lot of time in any one particular club, but looking for what may have potential in each, sampling them as the night progresses from about 9:30pm on. Earlier than 9:30pm is generally a waste of time, except in the lower end bars, where you can sometimes find afternoon shift girls that are pretty decent.

For me, "flitting between the clubs" means visiting them for a very brief period, like a butterfly, scoping out the talent, getting a general feel for the environment, and moving on to the next one on my list relatively quickly if the format or the selection is not to my liking. You can always scope them out and return to the ones that made an impression. But, there is enough variability between them that they are not always totally consistent night to night, week to week, month to month, etc...That's why I am often seen flitting from one to the other until I reach a conclusion as to which of them appears to be on their game for that particular night.

The bars I mention are relatively consistent in comparison to many others, but the fluctuation in quality of selection, etc...varies quite substantially in Monterrey, regardless of which ones might be recommended. Literally, you will find them to be great one night, and not so good other nights. That's a characteristic of all the bars in Monterrey...they are constantly in a state of flux.

Visit the bars in the area of Villagran and Carlos Salazar. You can walk between them. They are El Infinito, Givenchy, Tangalay, and Tengo. You are also relatively close to El Cielo on Arteaga, and to Beibis, across the street from El Cielo. El Cielo and Beibis are just to the East of Villagran and Carlos Salazar by about 4 blocks. They are all working class bars, and offer a very LOW comfort level with respect to relaxation. But, even though they are low level, some of them do have some really HOT, and cheap girls. They are not to be dismissed just because they cater to the lower classes.

Fact is, El Infinito often has girls that could easily compete with high end bar girls. I am frequently accused of steering people to El Infinito for some self serving motivation. The fact is, I steer them there because the price is outstanding for the quality of selection, and for the comparatively lower cost to take girls on salida, which is my own subjective criteria for assessing these bars. As I said, your criteria may differ.

If you prefer a more comfortable, not luxurious, but much more relaxing environment, I would recommend Casino, Pasarelas, Azul Tequilla, and Harem. They are all located within about a 5-6 block area along Avenida Madero, approximately 10-15 blocks to the East of Villagran and Madero. Some of them you can walk between, but they're not right next to each other like the working class bars I mentioned above that are located near Carlos Salazar and Villagran, which is just South of Avenida Madero and Villagran.

If you want to spend a lot of money for a high comfort level, and you enjoy the luxurious bars, more similar to what you might find in the US, you can visit Prestige, Obsession, Poisson, Amnesia, and there are several others. Just ask a taxi driver. They get commissions for bringing your there, and they'll be glad to take you to them, especially if you ask. They'll be salivating at the prospect of delivering you into their hands for a nice commission.

The prices will escalate 30-50%, maybe up to 100% more, low end to high end. With your fluency in Spanish, you will not likely be marked for scams by the girls or the waiters, no more so than you're already used to. So, you have a tremendous advantage over the Gringo visitor that has no fluency in the language and/or the customs of Mexico.

MPs are not my specialty. But, if MPs are your preference, I've been told, and I've occasionally sampled, Misses and Ramanos. They're upper level MPs, and the girls are top quality. The rest of the MPs are a crap shoot depending on the night of the week, whether the moon is full, etc...Having only one night, you simply don't have the time to visit them all to sample their quality and selection. With Ramanos and Misses, you will be assured of finding quality and selection. But, their cost will run you about $2000 pesos for approximately 45 minutes, possibly more depending on the selection. I don't frequent the MPs, and I've not been to either place for years, but the recommendations here seem to be consistent that those two places will not disappoint you, and the recommendations from other mongers that do like the MPs suggest that their quality and selection has not changed compared to my own past experience.

Compared to strip club girls, lower end girls can be taken on salida from the lower class bars for about 350 pesos, paid to the bar, + the girl's fee, which is usually between 1000 pesos and 1500 pesos, and sometimes slightly more if they are truly exceptional.

Medium level bars will cost you about 750-850 pesos for the bar fine, and the girls will ask for 1200-1500 pesos. You can still sometimes get the medium level bar girls for 1000 pesos depending on the girl.

The higher end bars are going to cost you much more for any kind of salida action. 3000-5000 pesos for the girl is not uncharacteristic if you want to take them on salida, and I am not sure what the bar fine might cost as I have NEVER done it from the higher end bars. I have, however, made dates with higher end girls, and they've not charged me more than 1000-1500 pesos when they meet me on their off time. But, that usually requires some time spent getting to know the girls first over lengths of time so that they feel safe, develop a quasi friendship with them, etc...You don't have that kind of time.

Average time spent by strip club girls is from 1.5 to 2 hours. If you want more time, you can usually pay a double salida fee to the bar, then negotiate with the girl as to her fee for extra time. But, I have often received increased time from the girl if I decide to pay a double salida fee to the bar, yielding up to 4 hours, and they don't usually charge me more. It depends on the night of the week. I believe they're much more willing to go, and not chance losing the opportunity to make 1000 pesos, when things are slow for them in the bar. Were I to proposition them with the prospect of an extended salida, ie: 4 hours or more, on a weekend night, most of them would ask more money to compensate them for their opportunity loss in the bar.

Since you live in Mexico, you are well acquainted with the risks of being in Mexico, verdad? So, I will not escalate the rhetoric concerning the dangers of Mexico by commenting any further on the hysteria propagated in this forum over the escalated dangers that do exist in Mexico.

I think the discussion concerning the dangers in Mexico, which we all agree do exist, should be off limits with respect to any future postings unless a monger has a direct experience they can personally relate as happening to them.

Hope that helps. Others can chime in with their recommendations...Good Luck!

I have been going over a ton of pages in this block now and maybe I have missed the info in between the arguments.

Therefore, if someone can please help me with a quick summary I would be most grateful.

I will be going to Monterrey in 2 weeks, just stay a single night. I speak fluent spanish with very little accent as I live in another city in MX. White as an egg, though.

I will have 1 night free, maybe part of the morning. So what is the expert recommendation, Escort, massage parlor or strip club?

I will stay at the Crowne Plaza towards the center, is it GF?

I will look for a gem, if that can provide any sort of direction. Can anyone please help me with their expertise and point me in the right direction plus give an idea of what pricelevel to expect?

I shall return the favor if anyone plans to come down to Guad!

Thanks a lot.

[Marius 67]

spongebob.. no way this would occur chicago..comparing monterrey and chicago in terms of safety is almost laughable.

authorities found the remains of at least 38 people in a series of pits and rep001tered on the ground at a suspected drug-gang dumping site near the industrial hub of monterrey in northern mexico, an official said friday.

investigators were using heavy equipment to search for more bodies at the rural site outside mexico's third-largest city, local media said. photographs showed charred spots on the soil suggesting some bodies may have been partially burned.

nuevo leon state attorney general alejandro garza y garza said officials still had to inspect three more pits for bodies. he said 36 of the victims found so far are men and two are women.

the state attorney general's office in nuevo leon state, where monterrey is located, said more heavy equipment was being brought in to search the ground and pits where the remains were found.

the bodies were too badly decomposed for immediate identification, the office said.

the clandestine grave site, which was discovered thursday, was believed to have been used by drug gangs that operate in the area.

the mexican army did not offer any immediate information on how the site was detected.

nearly 25,000 people have been killed in mexico since the government launched an offensive against drug cartels in late 2006.

[Borregos77]

I have been going over a ton of pages in this block now and maybe I have missed the info in between the arguments.

Therefore, if someone can please help me with a quick summary I would be most grateful.

I will be going to Monterrey in 2 weeks, just stay a single night. I speak fluent spanish with very little accent as I live in another city in MX. White as an egg, though.

I will have 1 night free, maybe part of the morning. So what is the expert recommendation, Escort, massage parlor or strip club?

I will stay at the Crowne Plaza towards the center, is it GF?

I will look for a gem, if that can provide any sort of direction. Can anyone please help me with their expertise and point me in the right direction plus give an idea of what pricelevel to expect?

I shall return the favor if anyone plans to come down to Guad!

Thanks a lot.

[Member #3453]

They only frisk me if it's a newbie bouncer...With trustees, they don't concern themselves too much. Congratulations to Marius, he has attained "trustee" status.

But, I do like the idea they're frisking people. Let them frisk. But, they should do them properly so they're effective. If a frisk is done properly, it is very difficult to hide a handgun. The very smallest 380s are still easily detected if they frisk properly.

Just keep your eyes open and you're not likely to fall victim to anything other than a serious case of larceny in the privados, and when dealing with the waiters. :-)))

Disappointed? Take heart! The pool of eligible girls is slightly off due to vacations. Most of the girls have kids, and many of them feel obligated to go to the beach, visit cousins, go back "home," etc...

Things will improve around the end of August, and into the fall months. Soon the girls will start to think about preparing for the new school year. We'll see an improvement as their desperation for money escalates to a point of realizing how they can get some quick cash.

FYI, they don't pad gringos, they don't frisk well known customers and yes, after a hundred thousand posts, you finally accept you were mistaken.
Your fault for believing heaven knows who.

Apologies accepted.

Now, let us analize this: "Also, it seems that I'am getting more disappointed every time I go. I spend more but get less"

I thought you has a couple of GFs.... so, what happened?

By the way, hurricane Alex or no Alex, prices are going up at the clubs by like 10-15, even 20% more or less.
Girls still charge the same but drinks have gone up (TKT from 25 pesos to 30 pesos a can).

Cover charges at Prestige were 70, now 80 pesos.

Film at 11

[MonterreyDude]

FYI, they don't pad gringos, they don't frisk well known customers and yes, after a hundred thousand posts, you finally accept you were mistaken.
Your fault for believing heaven knows who.

Apologies accepted.

Now, let us analize this: "Also, it seems that I'am getting more disappointed every time I go. I spend more but get less"

I thought you has a couple of GFs.... so, what happened?

By the way, hurricane Alex or no Alex, prices are going up at the clubs by like 10-15, even 20% more or less.
Girls still charge the same but drinks have gone up (TKT from 25 pesos to 30 pesos a can).

Cover charges at Prestige were 70, now 80 pesos.

Film at 11

Not even the disaster of the hurricane can stop the deadly gun battles in the streets of Monterrey. Went to infinito this weekend; they are not even padding people down anymore, not that it ever helped. Also another young lady told me no gun battles have occured inside infinito. I guess Carlos and Spongebob were right. It's still a very dangerous city; just be aware! Also, it seems that I'am getting more disappointed every time I go. I spend more but get less. WTF?

[Marius 67]

Not even the disaster of the hurricane can stop the deadly gun battles in the streets of Monterrey. Went to infinito this weekend; they are not even padding people down anymore, not that it ever helped. Also another young lady told me no gun battles have occured inside infinito. I guess Carlos and Spongebob were right. It's still a very dangerous city; just be aware! Also, it seems that I'am getting more disappointed every time I go. I spend more but get less. WTF?

[MonterreyDude]

El Norte says that by tomorrow they'll open the toll highway partially, meaning that only 2 lanes will be for traffic for a stretch.

BUT now they are saying that Reynosa is in danger cause the Rio Grande is threating to overflow.

El Manaña reports today, Wednesday, that the road will open, at least partially, today.

http://www.elmanana.com.mx/notas.asp?id=190707

Further reading, it seems partially means only trucks with high ground clearance will be allowed to pass. They say the dam that flooded the highway has closed the flood gates partially to drop the amount of water flowing, but the level of the dam continues to rise so they may have to allow more water out soon. Just have to wait and see.

[Bbond]

Blourghus, supposedly they are opening one of the roads on Monday... dunno if the toll or free roads to Monterrey.

El Manaña reports today, Wednesday, that the road will open, at least partially, today.

http://www.elmanana.com.mx/notas.asp?id=190707

Further reading, it seems partially means only trucks with high ground clearance will be allowed to pass. They say the dam that flooded the highway has closed the flood gates partially to drop the amount of water flowing, but the level of the dam continues to rise so they may have to allow more water out soon. Just have to wait and see.

[Member #3453]

Lunch buffette hours start at 1:30 pm to 6 pm

Get there before about 4:30pm Blourghus or you will miss out on the delicious french fries. To hell with the girls, verdad? Just kidding. Well, not really, the french fries our damn good!

[MonterreyDude]

Lunch buffette hours start at 1:30 pm to 6 pm

Well I'll be smoking a peace pipe at Prestige towards the end of the week … everyone is invited (I am neutral third party mediator :-) ) One thing I have learned about my years in the forums is that actually meeting folks online is always a great time, settles petty differences online, and the friendships last a lot longer than the lady of the week.


Really want to get to NLBT for a night but road situation from Monterrey is unclear …… photos in the news look really grim.


And for some nuts & bolts info, what are the hours of the Prestige buffet? (I know I ask this like every other week but I always forget).
And is Diana still there?

[Blourghus]

Well I'll be smoking a peace pipe at Prestige towards the end of the week … everyone is invited (I am neutral third party mediator :-) ) One thing I have learned about my years in the forums is that actually meeting folks online is always a great time, settles petty differences online, and the friendships last a lot longer than the lady of the week.


Really want to get to NLBT for a night but road situation from Monterrey is unclear …… photos in the news look really grim.


And for some nuts & bolts info, what are the hours of the Prestige buffet? (I know I ask this like every other week but I always forget).
And is Diana still there?

[Super Gato]

Put me on ignore.

As you wish.

[MonterreyDude]

Blourghus, supposedly they are opening one of the roads on Monday... dunno if the toll or free roads to Monterrey.

The idea of "monger meetings" as it applies to this discussion is very interesting. I have two different modes. For things like the old NLBT meetings where I was going down there regularly, it was more about meeting with the guys (most of whom didn't come down as much), and maybe I could help try to help guys hook up with the lady they had their eye on or whatever (I'm not about taking taking/giving recommendations of specific ladies either because I march to a totally different drummer when it comes to that). I looked at myself as more host, and if I got with a lady myself that was cool, but if not then whatever. It was not the top priority but more was hanging out with friends (which is mostly I see how MonterreyDude is). On the other hand for intercontinental destination I don't get to frequently it's all about precision focus on the ladies, don't bother me because I'm busy, and I don't even really read the monger forums typically to know or care who the big players are.

However, I do think there is a certain confusion between this forum and the monger meetings which take place in Monterrey. Those are essentially private gatherings where this particular forum is a bigger, more public forum. This forum is at least as I see it, not an extension of that but just a different microcosm of the whole mongering world. There are guys who post here who do not meet for the gatherings in Monterrey, and there are guys who meet in Monterrey who have never logged in here. And then there's a whole host of guys go to Monterrey but who have done neither. The whole Monterrey world is 100x bigger than this forum, and also a 100x bigger than the lunch buffet meetings at Prestige. Thus, I find USB's attack (and accompanying call to "prove yourself") of anybody who he hasn't personally had a beer with to pretty offensive. It's a public online forum and discussions and standards should be conducted with what takes place on line and not elsewhere, and making references and requirements of admission which are off line is just creating an atmosphere of exclusion.

I respect USB and he is one of the truest & most honest guys on the boards today. I'm glad he participates heres, and it's just crazy we have never met but our trips just somehow never line up (let's change that, OK?). I'm just giving my feedback about the forum. I hope future guys who come and give a differing opinion, and question the forum's sacred cows, will be greeted more open mindedly. Instead of attacking, ask questions & understand. I have no problem with tearing apart someone's argument but ripping him apart just because he doesn't hang out with you is uncalled for. And if I came off as cranky it's just because due to the Laredo flooding I'm stuck here instead of being where I'd rather be .... in Monterrey.

[Chester Boy]

I have never been one to send a message of exclusion where someone lacks an "in-crowd" association. The "in-crowd" is regularly accused of that without there being one shred of evidence that it's occurring, or has occurred.

It is a defense mechanism used by those once challenged who can not support the content of their bogus posts, usually trolls. Anybody who doesn't think that Chester Boy was a troll, with no experience in Monterrey, is not paying attention to the content of his posts. Anybody that accepts the word of a bar girl, then represents it as true in light of the facts, does a disservice to the forum when those who we all know are knowledgeable about the Monterrey venue say that the bar girl is full of baloney. Notice, I did not say that Marius was full of it, but that the bar girl was full of it. There is a big difference.

My suspicions of certain posters on-line do receive my doubt, and often my inquisitive commentary, especially when I discern something in their posts that's inconsistent with respect to what I know is the real situation on the ground in Monterrey. If I discern in the content of their posts a potentially ulterior motive, or when their posts appear to have a disingenuous component to them, they receive my suspicion. And, certainly, they receive an even stronger forceful response when I am directly attacked by them, when they can not legitimize their questionable posts, or when other mongers I personally know are attacked by them.

Blourghas, you are genuine in your experience, in your mongering acumen, etc. Yet, we have never met. I would never question the validity of your posts. I would never react as I have other than to defend myself. I know you're for real. As you said, we have some of the same friends, and association with Monterreydude, etc.

With respect to these trolls, those they consider themselves "our" enemies, and with respect to the want-to-be's who are trying to make us believe the bogus content of their posts are legit, I can smell them all a mile away, bogus screen names and all. If I respond to them, and it appears I'm being overly harsh, it's simple to discern if what I perceived in their posts is actual BS, or whether their posts have some validity. The only way we can do that when suspicion arises is to challenge them, politely, in the forum.

Accepting anything posted at the expense of legitimate information is no trade off. Their posting misleading information doesn't serve any of us well. We are wise to question posts that look a little strange in our own experience. And, my rule of thumb is to politely question their validity. If they escalate with offensive rhetoric, and they choose to get nasty, they will be met with the same level of discourse they perpetrate upon me.

Ok, enough said. I am going back into the abis now, and will allow all the inhibited their opportunity to post unmolested, providing they are not posting BS, or attacking me or mine. So, nobody else rattle my cage.

Blourghas, when you come back to Monterrey, send me a PM, or advise Monterreydude, and we can hook up. See you later.

What a crock of BS. The guy who posted that bar girl story was immediately attacked by Monterreydude and when I piped up to say that it was ok to prove the info untrue, but not cool to attack someone for sharing what they heard, Unspongebob immediately questioned who I was, what I was doing, here and whether I even live in Monterrey.

Nothing I have said has been inaccurate and certainly not as inaccurate as Unspongebob saying that there is a 0/0 chance of violence at the clubs. THAT and Monterreydude's deflections of whether there is ANY violence in town, are TRUE misrepresentations, and things that could put mongers in danger.

This is what Unspongebob said in a previous post: "I am being brutally honest when I admit that I am in it totally for my own gratification, and not out of any patronizing desire to "help all the rest of mongering. "

Well, if that's the case, one has to question why Unspongebob posts so religiously on a public forum precisely dedicated to helping fellow mongers. A private yahoo group or Facebook page would allow him to post and communicate with his buddies, why opt to share for public consumption when you have no desire to share? If you don't care about helping, why not save the long, rambling, childish essays for PMs to your buddies? I'm beginning to question whether he knows anything about Monterrey at all except, of course, what Monterreydude has led him to.

I'll admit that I'm out of the loop when it comes to mongering logistics since I mostly just deal with the girls directly now. But I'd be willing to do research and meet Monterreydude and Unspongebob half way if they were also willing to drop the attitude that any real info be shared in private.

Believe it or not, most people who read forums like this are preparing to monger in a destination that they know nothing about. They want nuts and bolts info within quick and immediate reach. That's the nature of sex travel boards. People aren't here to read dozens of pages of private banter and essays on the human spirit. I suggest starting a blog for all those with esoteric, whimsical essays in their hearts. Most people are here to find out Who, What, When, and Where. And without having to grovel at the feet of those with the most experience.

As far as being a troll. I suggest that it's more trollish to hijack a public forum and turn it into an exclusive club.

[Chester Boy]

I rarely laugh out loud but but when I read that I may actually be a made up account that lives only to protect your and USB's honor I cackled.

And then at the bottom of his missive saying that he things calling people an impostor is bad in the same post where I was an impostor! Kettle, meet pot!

If CB wants to provide information and advice on mongering in MTY, I'd be happy to read the reports. But if all he wants to do is complain then he'll just go onto my ignore list.

Obviously, irony is lost on you.

It's hilarious the way you guys pile on when you are so obviously in the wrong.

The fact of the matter is this: Any new member who comes in and posts anything NOT to the liking of Monterreydude and Unspongebob instantly gets shouted down and has their reputations ruined. Who the hell, in their right mind, thinks anyone is silly enough to post on a forum for a city they don't even live in or, better yet, try to discredit some semen-soaked bar in order to pull clients away to their own business? Talk about delusional! And yes, 6 years in-city, 3 years visiting prior. Don't have to prove myself to anyone, don't have to prove myself to some self-important, prepotente middle-aged man who, for all I know, is among the same scumbag cartel members who he insists pose no danger to anyone.

As far as me posting real reports, you know my stance. I've offered the olive branch and it has been turned down. I was more than ready to put this all aside and begin a new chapter of co-op participation to the benefit of all those mongers who want logistics info that is not several years old. But Monterreydude and Unspongebob still intend on filling the board with inside banter and insist on lording any real info over the heads of members. You MUST address them personally to get anything of value. And it will cost you 20 bucks in membership fees to do so.

It would be so easy to provide some simple logistics info for the general public to read. I mean, these guys LIVE on this board and are allegedly locals, so what's the hang-up? Why insist on stroking your own ego by forcing everyone to address them personally for some very basic info? Nobody's asking for girls' private numbers or addresses. Just simple info that mongers can use when coming to town. But, again, they must come to THEM and, believe it, they better be nice about it or lord help them.

So, Super Gato, please inform yourself before jumping in.

How will this board ever get new members, active members when: 1) Any new members with opposing viewpoints are shouted down while having their reputations attacked and 2) Real info is actually discouraged by the most active, most senior members?

If anyone is doing any sabotage, it's these two guys.

Empty space is preferable to total clutter. Clear out the air for a few months and the trip reports will come back. They were here before Monterreydude and Unspongebob turned the thread into their Facebook accounts and they will come back.

Sorry if wanting to help the mongers upsets you. Put me on ignore.