Monterrey

[Member #3453]

Unless a girl gives specific permission to post her photo it should not be posted. The reasons are what has been said, someone will show it to her or someone she knows.

I recently had a guy, that is somewhat jealous of some of the girls I have, tell some of the girls that I have not been with, that I post girls photos on the internet. Total BS, one girl finally told me that was why she would never go with me, she did not want photos the internet. Of course I do not do that. I confronted the guy and told him to show me, even one pic, of any girl, that I have ever posted. Can't be done, I don't do that.

Most of what I see is just stupid mongers having no common sense, and innocently screwing up other mongers with their totally innocent disregard for consequences. What is going on here in this section lately is some kind of deliberate retribution thing at the expense of the victim of it, along with all the rest of us, and that shouldn't be going on either. Get even-ism motivates this supposed stalking crap, and it effects our not having any reports. It has caused everyone on here to fear posting anything at all, much less photos.

[Le Bogosse]

Nobody has disputed that Mexico has problems. When we first started this discussion, well over a year and a half ago, things had not escalated to the point of there being the dangers there are now to the average Mexicano living in Mexican culture and society.

It isn't a matter of what might be dangerous for the average Mexicano. You think that I wrote things about your culture to insult you? I wrote them to illustrate that for the average Mexicano living in Monterrey the dangers are much more acute than for the average visitor.

The average visitor that spends a few days doesn't feel, and will NEVER feel the effects of your dangerous culture upon you and your amigos.

This cuts to the heart of my comments to DadFun555 about who consults the ISG Monterrey section for advice. It was not historically Mexicanos that consulted ISG over the last ten years, it was Gringos, and visitors from other parts of the world. It was not primarily Mexicanos. It is still not primarily Mexicanos by a huge margin.

The average visitor that chooses to visit El Infinito, or one of the other bars, should not be warned that it will be "LIKELY" that they will be victimized by the present condition in Mexican society. It simply isn't true. As a visitor of only a few days to Monterrey, which most of them are, does NOT have a statistical likelihood that they will be victimized by the condition of your culture and society.

You're used to commenting to an audience of primarily Mexican Nationals on Mexican blogs concerning Mexican issues, dangers, etc. The members that consult with ISG-Monterrey are by an overwhelming majority Gringos from the US, or other Visitors to Monterrey from other foreign countries.

Addressing them as you do, under the same assumption as you address your countrymen on a Mexican blog or website, the content and validity of your commentary is totally lost. But, more importantly, your commentary is NOT accurate for the majority of readers, not because it isn't true for Mexicanos living in Monterrey, but because it isn't true for foreign visitors to Monterrey.

A readership pool comprised of potential "Visitors" to Monterrey, and not of Mexican Nationals living through the dangers in Monterrey, are two entirely different audiences with two entirely different concerns, and two entirely different sets of vulnerabilities.

If you want to offer a service to the mongering community, offer suggestions on how to be a little more careful while they're here, acknowledging that they are in Monterrey under an entirely different scenario than the average Mexicano that lives here. Give them some usable advice to help them have a nice time, rather than fear mongering advice.

Most of the guys coming to Monterrey are here to work, they're here only for a few days, then they're off back to where they came from. The dangers for them are just not quantifiable like they are for your amigos on the other Mexican blogs and local Mexican, Spanish speaking, websites you undoubtedly comment upon.

You're warning an audience whose potential for being victimized is almost non-existent. People can warn others to watch out, be a little more careful, etc. And that's wise advice. But, to completely recommend that nobody visit Mexico, and to base their likelihood for being victimized upon the same likelihood that Native Regios might possibly experience, is a misguided objective at the least, and a complete and total misrepresentation and dis-service to the mongering community on the ISG-Monterrey Section at the most.

So, how much money should I bring to have a nice girl? I am glad I am to visiting the bar NOT during a QUINCENA. El Infinito seems to be the right choice. Would you recommend a girl or two?

Thanks!

[Bbond]

Unless a girl gives specific permission to post her photo it should not be posted. The reasons are what has been said, someone will show it to her or someone she knows.

I recently had a guy, that is somewhat jealous of some of the girls I have, tell some of the girls that I have not been with, that I post girls photos on the internet. Total BS, one girl finally told me that was why she would never go with me, she did not want photos the internet. Of course I do not do that. I confronted the guy and told him to show me, even one pic, of any girl, that I have ever posted. Can't be done, I don't do that.

[Member #3453]

My sentiments exactly. A lot of us have been in far more dangerous places than Monterrey, and know how to take precautions. A little warning is appreciated, but don't start telling me about some Barrio Antigua, 'cause all I care about is the girls.

What seems to be dangerous in Monterrey is saying too much about yourself or your activities on this site.

Any monger that fucks up another monger in a public forum should be hunted down and castrated. I have seen some guys get their asses kicked just for showing photos of monger A's girls that were posted on a sex site and shown around the bars by Monger B.

The fucking jerk mongers show photos all around the bar asking if anyone knows this girl or that girl. They don't give a shit about the fallout to Monger A. Is it any wonder that we have fewer and fewer photos being posted in the forums?

Anybody with half a brain knows how many stupid mother fuckers are out there with no regard for anybody but themselves. Assholes doing that shit effects us all. That shit and/or anything remotely like it should be a capital offense.

[Larbo]

Am in town now. But, you'd have to be nuts to comment about what you're up to. It is clear that some have no interest in finding girls. They just want to fuck with other people. That's out of bounce. I guess they're accomplishing what he says they're up to. I'll just continue to lurk. Hope I haven't said too much already.

My sentiments exactly. A lot of us have been in far more dangerous places than Monterrey, and know how to take precautions. A little warning is appreciated, but don't start telling me about some Barrio Antigua, 'cause all I care about is the girls.

What seems to be dangerous in Monterrey is saying too much about yourself or your activities on this site.

[Member #3453]

Tell us where the girls are, tell us where to find the best bang for the buck. Keep the posts on topic or STFU.

Am in town now. But, you'd have to be nuts to comment about what you're up to. It is clear that some have no interest in finding girls. They just want to fuck with other people. That's out of bounce. I guess they're accomplishing what he says they're up to. I'll just continue to lurk. Hope I haven't said too much already.

[Bbond]

Jesus fooking Christo. This pissing contest has gone way beyond the purpose of this forum. Tell us where the girls are, tell us where to find the best bang for the buck. Keep the posts on topic or STFU. We read enough in the news media to form our own opinions about the safety, or lack there of. Girls man, girls, that's why we go, so let's stick to that, OK? I feel for those that go and spend the amounts they would spend in the US, but it is what it is, and let it be that. Some guys venture with an almost unlimited budget, it is what it is. Personally I can't see paying more than 400 pesos for good pussy, and believe me, there are many, many, girls you can get for that. If a guy wants to spend more it's his option, fine go for it. But tell the truth, tell us where it's at. There will always be the high rollers that ruin it for everyone else, nothing you can do about that, it is what it is. I see truckers that come to Nuevo Laredo with hundreds or even thousands to spend in a weekend, girls flock to them. [CodeWord140] me off? Yes, but what can I do? It is what it is and that's what it is.

[MexCanuck]

Does anyone have the link to the map of the MP's, SC's and some of the hotels that I think that Amigomio once posted. I remember it as a google map but I haven't used it for a while and seem to have lost the link. Can anyone help.

[El Cazador]

Oh, very good, you got the Seinfeld reference. Mexicanos do not generally appreciate the decidedly American cultural humor of Seinfeld. I've found that most Mexicanos are unfamliar with Seinfeld, and that's because the humor of Seinfeld is lost on them. It has not been terribly popular with the working classes. They don't really get where we Gringos are coming from sometimes, and the humor isn't Mexican humor.

That's why I said that he would not get it, not because he couldn't understand it, but more because it was quite likely that he would not relate to the inside jokes unless he actively engaged in watching the show, which most working class Mexicanos do NOT. Maybe it's something lost in the translation. Because, most people in Monterrey do not speak English, and the show, when it is aired in Monterrey, is sometimes, and sometime not, translated into Spanish. Something is really lost in translation with respect to jokes.

And, you're putting words in my mouth. To reiterate,

I did not say that Monterrey is too dangerous to post reports. I said there are too many assholes on ISG for members to report too many details.

I recommended that members remain relatively aloof about their activities, lest they be stalked, and attempts made to out them. Your comments, goals, and objectives, where I'm concerned, prove my point in spades.

And, while you might believe you're an island yourself, and that somehow your own comments won't reveal details about your own circumstances, the more you comment, unless you are very careful, the closer you come to your own activities being revealed by some future assholes that have some unprovoked axe to grind against you some day.

Unfortunately, assumptions made by you concerning my own activities are based on very ancient history, obtained from informants that are recollecting the distant past, their representing my past exploits at El Infinito as my current range of activities. And, to a certain extent, your comments already have revealed certain suspicions I have about your actual identity that might just surprise you.

After 10 years, you can rest assured I have spies everywhere in the bars of Monterrey, even El Infinito. So, you see, while you're warning me about the "dangers" of my supposed visibility, you're are equally visible, and equally obvious to my own spies that anticipate you in advance. How easy it is to feed them full of unadulterated BS when someone comes looking for the "Cookie Man."

They, meaning your informants, long to delight their taste buds, and they can't forget me, no matter how hard they try. Their loyalty is to me. Well, someday soon, I guess I should bring them some delectable treats in compensation. Unfortunately, my source for what they crave no longer exists. They will be very disappointed indeed. It's Licorice and chocolates for now. But, I do have another delectable treat that is exclusively my own, something that I have never disclosed here, and will never disclose. And you know why.

Unfortunately for you, and your obvious agenda, I will never disclose my present day activities, and haven't done so in quite a long, long time on ISG, on account of what I call the ASSHOLE factor. So, keep on guessing.

But, when ISG members wonder why we have such a pissing contest here in the ISG-Monterrey, and why there is very little actually posted about our exploits, they will understand what limits our being candid with details. Some on here can not have a friendly disagreement of philosophies without making it personal.

You say that you are to be stalked and that you have spies.

And that you have suspicions of sombodys actual identity?

And that you have informants with your spies?

And you give your spies and informants chocolates and licorice for compensation?

All this drama and stalking and creating multinicks in your life for this monterrey sex foro? Are you for real?

You need help with the voices in your head. You have serious problems that need more than medicine.

[El Cazador]

I will totally agree with el Cazador to the fact that the Monterrey of today is nowhere close to the Monterrey of not just 6 years, make it 3.

In many of his points el Cazador is dead on, specially Barrio Antiguo that simply just died from one day to another and it's lost with no possibility of damage control or nothing.

Yes, it has become a very violent city, but to mongers coming to Monterrey for a couple of days. They might not even notice. Not even if they go to the Madero-Villagran area, where Pax Romana, peace by the force, has been imposed.

That is a hard fact. When you are not involved in the day by day matters of the city, you just won't notice.

But anyway, Monterrey is still far away from the likes of Tijuana or Nuevo Laredo where mongers are hasseled 24/7 by police or dangers really lurk in every shadow of the streets.

I've read the threads and I've talked to mongers and are those cities really dangerous to mongers.

Is funny when the unspongebob make the fight with me and others last year with his multiknicks challenging the dangers in monterrey when you and I who live here know better. Sometimes I read this foolish gringo think he know more about monterrey that even you. It annoy me and maybe you as this foolish gringo does not know anyone here in monterey to make such foolish words. He sure does not know a bar owner that have the good club in barrio antiguo that has to leave monterrey last year for texas after he not pay the cartel and they beat one of his employees and treaten his family and kidnapp the son. Or a owner of a liqour store who must sell the business in santa catarina when he is beaten by the cartel. Or my friends friend who is beaten in the daytime after he not pay the cartel and he spend three week in the hospital and lose half the eye, ear and have the broken bones and almost lose the life. No, this foolish gringo only open his mouth and know everything when he should listen than talk. He rather argue with everyone that don't agree with him and attack with all his multiknicks.

I don't say this last year but the girls at the infinito all laugh for long time when I say the spongebob cookie man maybe look like richard gere or sean connery as he brag on this foro how all the girls love him.

The say he appear more like the homer simpson.

[Member #3453]

SpongeBob says Monterrey is too dangerous to post detailed reports

Oh, very good, you got the Seinfeld reference...Mexicanos do not generally appreciate the decidedly American cultural humor of Seinfeld. I've found that most Mexicanos are unfamliar with Seinfeld, and that's because the humor of Seinfeld is lost on them. It has not been terribly popular with the working classes. They don't really get where we Gringos are coming from sometimes, and the humor isn't Mexican humor.

That's why I said that he would not get it, not because he couldn't understand it, but more because it was quite likely that he would not relate to the inside jokes unless he actively engaged in watching the show, which most working class Mexicanos do NOT. Maybe it's something lost in the translation. Because, most people in Monterrey do not speak English, and the show, when it is aired in Monterrey, is sometimes, and sometime not, translated into Spanish. Something is really lost in translation with respect to jokes.

And, you're putting words in my mouth...To reiterate,

I did not say that Monterrey is too dangerous to post reports. I said there are too many assholes on ISG for members to report too many details.

I recommended that members remain relatively aloof about their activities, lest they be stalked, and attempts made to out them. Your comments, goals, and objectives, where I'm concerned, prove my point in spades...

And, while you might believe you're an island yourself, and that somehow your own comments won't reveal details about your own circumstances, the more you comment, unless you are very careful, the closer you come to your own activities being revealed by some future assholes that have some unprovoked axe to grind against you some day.

Unfortunately, assumptions made by you concerning my own activities are based on very ancient history, obtained from informants that are recollecting the distant past, their representing my past exploits at El Infinito as my current range of activities. And, to a certain extent, your comments already have revealed certain suspicions I have about your actual identity that might just surprise you.

After 10 years, you can rest assured I have spies everywhere in the bars of Monterrey, even El Infinito. So, you see, while you're warning me about the "dangers" of my supposed visibility, you're are equally visible, and equally obvious to my own spies that anticipate you in advance. How easy it is to feed them full of unadulterated BS when someone comes looking for the "Cookie Man."

They, meaning your informants, long to delight their taste buds, and they can't forget me, no matter how hard they try. Their loyalty is to me. Well, someday soon, I guess I should bring them some delectable treats in compensation. Unfortunately, my source for what they crave no longer exists. They will be very disappointed indeed. It's Licorice and chocolates for now. But, I do have another delectable treat that is exclusively my own, something that I have never disclosed here, and will never disclose...and you know why.

Unfortunately for you, and your obvious agenda, I will never disclose my present day activities, and haven't done so in quite a long, long time on ISG, on account of what I call the ASSHOLE factor. So, keep on guessing...

But, when ISG members wonder why we have such a pissing contest here in the ISG-Monterrey, and why there is very little actually posted about our exploits, they will understand what limits our being candid with details. Some on here can not have a friendly disagreement of philosophies without making it personal.

[Member #3453]

I still don't believe this is true

ISG-Monterrey was the subject of our discussion, not the entire world. Believe whatever you want to...makes no difference to me what you believe.

I can tell you that of the guys that actually do come to Monterrey, I have personally met and assisted large numbers of them on the ground here. So, of the guys that actually do make it Monterrey, and contact me for assistance, an overwhelming number of them have been Gringos.

Like I said, what Mexicano needs ISG-Monterrey?

[MonterreyDude]

I will totally agree with el Cazador to the fact that the Monterrey of today is nowhere close to the Monterrey of not just 6 years, make it 3.

In many of his points el Cazador is dead on, specially Barrio Antiguo that simply just died from one day to another and it's lost with no possibility of damage control or nothing.

Yes, it has become a very violent city, but to mongers coming to Monterrey for a couple of days. They might not even notice. Not even if they go to the Madero-Villagran area, where Pax Romana, peace by the force, has been imposed.

That is a hard fact. When you are not involved in the day by day matters of the city, you just won't notice.

But anyway, Monterrey is still far away from the likes of Tijuana or Nuevo Laredo where mongers are hasseled 24/7 by police or dangers really lurk in every shadow of the streets.
I've read the threads and I've talked to mongers and are those cities really dangerous to mongers...

Monterrreydude.

Please tell the foro you opinion on monterrey right now as it compare six years ago. Please tell the foro if I am not right when I explain that the many people and business owner have been made the extortion by the gangs. Please tell the foro if I am wrong with my opinion about the barrio antiguo and why many of the clubs close down because the do not pay the protection money. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say do not go to el centro as a gringo alone and get drunk at any time now day or night. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say that everyone live here know sombody that sufrir the violence because of the gangs.

Please tell the foro if I am wrong for what I report.

Please tell the foro if I am BS.

Tell me that my reports are BS and I will go away never to make the post here again. Then only the spongeguy with all his various personality and multinicks will be here.

[Dad Fun 555]

Well, the fanny pack thing isn't accurate at all..It's a "European Man Bag,"...along with my ruby slippers and my "Manzier," or "Bro", depending on whom is having a sale. Bet you don't even get that one, but all the Gringos will.

Right. Everybody outside of the states is just a giant bunch of uncultured ignoramuses who have never heard of Seinfeld. On the reports, I guess your damned if you do, damned if you don't. SpongeBob says Monterrey is too dangerous to post detailed reports. If you post reports you are a naive fool who doesn't know what dangers await you from narcoterrorists lurking in the shadows. If you don't post reports you are an alter ego of one of SpongeBob's numerous nemeses over the past decade and you don't actually monger in Monterrey.

I heard "G" girl from "I" club just arrived back into town after lengthy absence. Try as she may I wouldn't recommend letting her barebacking you. Insist on wrapping it. Trust me, you don't want to catch SpongeBob disease.

[Dad Fun 555]

I say that ISG-Monterrey Section is primarily comprised of Gringos, many of which live in Texas, frequent Nuevo Laredo, and occasionally visit Monterrey, and also comprised of primarily Gringos that fly in occasionally from other States, mostly for work, and usually for just a few days at a time at most. Most never get the opportunity to return. There is an occasional visit to the ISG-Monterrey Section from mongers living in California and Arizona who like to comment on the differences between the two venues.

I still don't believe this is true. If you look at the posting histories of others who post in Monterrey, there is nothing to indicate they are from US. If you have evidence otherwise, I would be interested. I would like to see numbers supporting your assertion. Many of them have posting history from places far away and they are in Monterrey on business, I see no evidence this is a US centric site (when I say "site", I mean the whole thing. Not just the Monterrey topic). I doubt anybody who lives in Texas and goes to Nuevo Laredo goes to Monterrey. Maybe back in 2009 or so but not anymore due to the violence. I stand by assertion this is international site and not US centric.