Monterrey

[Dad Fun 555]

I say that ISG-Monterrey Section is primarily comprised of Gringos, many of which live in Texas, frequent Nuevo Laredo, and occasionally visit Monterrey, and also comprised of primarily Gringos that fly in occasionally from other States, mostly for work, and usually for just a few days at a time at most. Most never get the opportunity to return. There is an occasional visit to the ISG-Monterrey Section from mongers living in California and Arizona who like to comment on the differences between the two venues.

I still don't believe this is true. If you look at the posting histories of others who post in Monterrey, there is nothing to indicate they are from US. If you have evidence otherwise, I would be interested. I would like to see numbers supporting your assertion. Many of them have posting history from places far away and they are in Monterrey on business, I see no evidence this is a US centric site (when I say "site", I mean the whole thing. Not just the Monterrey topic). I doubt anybody who lives in Texas and goes to Nuevo Laredo goes to Monterrey. Maybe back in 2009 or so but not anymore due to the violence. I stand by assertion this is international site and not US centric.

[Member #3453]

Monterrreydude.

Please tell the foro you opinion on monterrey right now as it compare six years ago. Please tell the foro if I am not right when I explain that the many people and business owner have been made the extortion by the gangs. Please tell the foro if I am wrong with my opinion about the barrio antiguo and why many of the clubs close down because the do not pay the protection money. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say do not go to el centro as a gringo alone and get drunk at any time now day or night. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say that everyone live here know sombody that sufrir the violence because of the gangs.

Please tell the foro if I am wrong for what I report.

Please tell the foro if I am BS.

Tell me that my reports are BS and I will go away never to make the post here again. Then only the spongeguy with all his various personality and multinicks will be here.

Nobody has disputed that Mexico has problems. When we first started this discussion, well over a year and a half ago, things had not escalated to the point of there being the dangers there are now to the average Mexicano living in Mexican culture and society.

It isn't a matter of what might be dangerous for the average Mexicano. You think that I wrote things about your culture to insult you? I wrote them to illustrate that for the average Mexicano living in Monterrey the dangers are much more acute than for the average visitor.

The average visitor that spends a few days doesn't feel, and will NEVER feel the effects of your dangerous culture upon you and your amigos.

This cuts to the heart of my comments to DadFun555 about who consults the ISG Monterrey section for advice. It was not historically Mexicanos that consulted ISG over the last ten years, it was Gringos, and visitors from other parts of the world. It was not primarily Mexicanos. It is still not primarily Mexicanos by a huge margin.

The average visitor that chooses to visit El Infinito, or one of the other bars, should not be warned that it will be "LIKELY" that they will be victimized by the present condition in Mexican society. It simply isn't true. As a visitor of only a few days to Monterrey, which most of them are, does NOT have a statistical likelihood that they will be victimized by the condition of your culture and society.

You're used to commenting to an audience of primarily Mexican Nationals on Mexican blogs concerning Mexican issues, dangers, etc. The members that consult with ISG-Monterrey are by an overwhelming majority Gringos from the US, or other Visitors to Monterrey from other foreign countries.

Addressing them as you do, under the same assumption as you address your countrymen on a Mexican blog or website, the content and validity of your commentary is totally lost. But, more importantly, your commentary is NOT accurate for the majority of readers, not because it isn't true for Mexicanos living in Monterrey, but because it isn't true for foreign visitors to Monterrey.

A readership pool comprised of potential "Visitors" to Monterrey, and not of Mexican Nationals living through the dangers in Monterrey, are two entirely different audiences with two entirely different concerns, and two entirely different sets of vulnerabilities.

If you want to offer a service to the mongering community, offer suggestions on how to be a little more careful while they're here, acknowledging that they are in Monterrey under an entirely different scenario than the average Mexicano that lives here. Give them some usable advice to help them have a nice time, rather than fear mongering advice.

Most of the guys coming to Monterrey are here to work, they're here only for a few days, then they're off back to where they came from. The dangers for them are just not quantifiable like they are for your amigos on the other Mexican blogs and local Mexican, Spanish speaking, websites you undoubtedly comment upon.

You're warning an audience whose potential for being victimized is almost non-existent. People can warn others to watch out, be a little more careful, etc. And that's wise advice. But, to completely recommend that nobody visit Mexico, and to base their likelihood for being victimized upon the same likelihood that Native Regios might possibly experience, is a misguided objective at the least, and a complete and total misrepresentation and dis-service to the mongering community on the ISG-Monterrey Section at the most.

[MexCanuck]

I don't know what the fuss is about. I think that unspongebob's reports are accurate for the most part.

I come to Mty for 7-10 days every month for the past 12 years or so. I first started mongering by getting the cabs to take me where they thought the most action was at. While he took me to Casa Blanca which is an interesting place especially 6. 12 years ago. Now it's pretty quiet. Now I spent at least 2 or 3 times a visit at El infinito or Tangalay. I may be a bit more cautious than before but I have not slowed down. I go a lot of the different SC's, a few MP's and a few dance clubs. Unlike Larbo, I do not spend much time in Centro but more along Madero and Colon area and the area around infinito but have seen little difference from years ago. I have never had any problems and I go out every nite unless I need some catch up sleep.

Does any know the link for the map with the location of most of the MP's and SC's. There was one which is a little outdated but still pretty good for a lot of the better clubs. I have some friends going to Mty and I think that the easiest for them to find their way around.

[Member #3453]

I am in Monterrey at least once a month, for at least three days at a time, but usually for a week at a time. I feel no different from a safety perspective now than I did six or eight years ago. I have no experience regarding driving or bussing across the border, as I always fly in. I do have a lot of experience in Zona Centro, mostly early in the evening, as I tend to get my selection done early and retire with her to my hotel.

I will be in Monterrey again next Wed. And Thursday, and flying back Friday. This is my second trip this month. On these shorter trips I usually rely on call-ins of a favorita or two. But, if Mother Nature or some other circumstance should intervene, I will go on down to Infinito's and report on my perception of personal safety both there and the Zona Centro in general. No promises, my favoritas come first, but I will try to do my part to lay this safety crap to rest.

Larbo is totally and completely correct. But, Larbo, he's just going to think we are one in the same guy. We know differently, but he has an agenda to discredit anybody that comments with any actual knowledge about the mongering scene in Monterrey.

I keep telling everyone he has a different kind of agenda. Seriously, don't say too much, report in generalities, or make up some stuff like names, and places, etc...to protect the "innocent."

He has but one agenda with respect to mongers, and we are all in his sights. Just a word to the wise...

[Member #3453]

I'm serious the fact you need profesional help. One of the girls in infinito say to us that sometime the girls see you talking when nobody else around you. That maybe you talk with one of you various personality when you alone at the table.

Yeah, I do. Need to be seen by a professional that is...

Know of a good accountant in Monterrey? me recommenda?

Funny, the girls say I "sit" in El Infinito, uhhhh? Not that I really believe you have even been there. But, for the sake of argument...I guess you mustered some courage to go down in the lion's den. I thought you said it was just toooooooo dangerous for any sane person to go there? Uhmmm, more BS...

I no longer spend considerable amounts of time in El Infinito anyway...actually, almost no time. I walk through, and out. I simply have no interest in spending much time in these kinds of joints these days. I am there for one purpose, and one purpose only. I am looking for girls I can see on the side, away from their jobs, and really couldn't care less about sitting with them, talking to them at their tables, groping at them from the stage, etc...

I am not even satisfied groping them in the privados. I am a hardened monger, and have graduated to the hard stuff, the top end...the sitting in a cum infested cubicle doesn't particularly appeal to me much any more...

But, of course, I understand the attraction for most that like partaking in the privados. It's just that I am a hard core monger these days, and am only satisfied with my own control of all scenarios. That's why you won't often find me lingering in the bars. I don't have to linger. I have endless time to spend working the girls individually on a very gradual basis, outside the clubs now. Oh, sure, I find them initially in the clubs. But, I don't waste my time on them there, throwing money at them there.

Furthermore, I do not stalk my fellow mongers, nor am I obsessed with their activities, nor do I strive to disclose their personal details to the world in order to get off like some people I know.

[El Cazador]

I am in Monterrey at least once a month, for at least three days at a time, but usually for a week at a time. I feel no different from a safety perspective now than I did six or eight years ago. I have no experience regarding driving or bussing across the border, as I always fly in. I do have a lot of experience in Zona Centro, mostly early in the evening, as I tend to get my selection done early and retire with her to my hotel.

I will be in Monterrey again next Wed. And Thursday, and flying back Friday. This is my second trip this month. On these shorter trips I usually rely on call-ins of a favorita or two. But, if Mother Nature or some other circumstance should intervene, I will go on down to Infinito's and report on my perception of personal safety both there and the Zona Centro in general. No promises, my favoritas come first, but I will try to do my part to lay this safety crap to rest.

Monterrreydude.

Please tell the foro you opinion on monterrey right now as it compare six years ago. Please tell the foro if I am not right when I explain that the many people and business owner have been made the extortion by the gangs. Please tell the foro if I am wrong with my opinion about the barrio antiguo and why many of the clubs close down because the do not pay the protection money. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say do not go to el centro as a gringo alone and get drunk at any time now day or night. Please tell the foro if I am wrong when I say that everyone live here know sombody that sufrir the violence because of the gangs.

Please tell the foro if I am wrong for what I report.

Please tell the foro if I am BS.

Tell me that my reports are BS and I will go away never to make the post here again. Then only the spongeguy with all his various personality and multinicks will be here.

[El Cazador]

No worry El Cabron 007. She's a he. He can visit El Infinito and not worry about it. Besides, all that he posts about Monterrey, and about "me," is bogus bullshit. So, no matter what he makes up to post, there are never any real details, which even further reveals he is not knowledgeable about Monterrey, or about me. He certainly doesn't know anything about El Infinito or he would have known that simple fact you so eloquently pointed out El Cabron. WOMEN ARE NOT ALLOWED.

Here is what has been going on everyone. The poster that likes masquerading as a female believes he knows "ME." He believes he can fuck me in the forum by posting with screen names that he believes relate to my true identity.

At first, I was concerned that he was posting the name I've always used as an alias in Monterrey, and frankly, all over the world. After all, I've been meeting people in Monterrey, and in other venues, using my alias for years. I remember when I first used the screen name. I just picked the name from the past. Then, I just stuck with it. It was easy to remember.

I never actually dreamed that my alias would ever be revealed in the forum. Frankly, I always used my alias because I feared the girls, and what they might try. I always expected it of the girls. I am, frankly, shocked that a fellow monger would stoop so low. I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

But, the reality is, what's in a name, verdad? That's the purpose of an alias. When you've been at this as long as I have, you learn to take precautions. But, that isn't how my stalker got the name of the alias. He got the name of the alias directly from me via internet correspondence, and he has spread it around to a very few number of our other detractors, most of which do not respect the opinions of others, and just can't behave with any proper cyber etiquette.

He wouldn't know me if I walked up behind him and tapped him on the shoulder, or worse. The poster that likes masquerading as a women in the forum, using names that relate to my alias, etc. Lets just say he is inextricably linked now to what is going on in the life of my alias by his own hand. Lets just say suspicion upon the actual perpetrators has been diverted, and the more our Mastermind involves himself with the evidence, the deeper he implicates himself in life's consequences outside this forum.

But, he has caused me to change my alias. I have now adopted a new alias, mostly because I don't want to be inextricably linked to a real person whose real life might cost me my own freedom through association.

I've stayed silent long enough. He thinks he's some kind of "Mastermind." But, were I him, I would think twice about linking myself to a real person I know nothing about. Notice, I said "person, ' and not "name." What's in a name?

I know my nemesis' name, I know his personal details, I know who he freelances with, I know his legitimate cyberlife, I know his profession. I don't desire to "spar" with him in the "ring," or react to his taunting. That's why I have ignored him up to now.

Enough said, back to the purpose of the forum, and lets stop the nonsense, trying to fuck each other just because our egos can't tolerate the opinions of others, or their contribution within this forum.

I'm serious the fact you need profesional help. One of the girls in infinito say to us that sometime the girls see you talking when nobody else around you. That maybe you talk with one of you various personality when you alone at the table.

[El Cazador]

I don't know, but I'm sure you'll make something up. You always do. You certainly don't know shit about Monterrey or El Infinito.

And with the regard to the Captain1201 screen name, and your use of it to masquerade as Chesterboy, lets clarify that, if for no other reason than to at least let Chesterboy know that you're also fucking with him, and who knows whom else within this forum.

See, guys, I told you the forum was full of bullshitters and trolls. And, Chesterboy, I owe you an apology, assuming you are not also our Mastermind in disguise, but I don't think so. I believe you are a legit poster Chesterboy.

Chesterboy, our Mastermind decided to do an internet search based on the name of my alias. He found that my alias has a screen name on another unrelated website, Captain1201. He used it to masquerade as you, but he made a very amateurish mistake, commenting as you with statements that did not correlate with your prior statements. Some did not really catch on, and neither did I at first. They / we believed you had made in error in your comments, but our Mastermind was just wanting to mess with our forum.

You see, he has this psychotic ego, and when he goes off his meds he can not tolerate that some of us have comments we enjoy posting here, and he can not tolerate a difference of opinion, even if it's made with decorum and politeness. He can not tolerate that we do know our shit. He knows his shit in his section, and he thinks he know his shit on his other websites.

But, NO, he must be in control. Part of that stems from the narcisism that is inherent with some people that are in his same profession, and part of it has to do with his being " very active" in a few other quasi legitimate, but relatively insignificant websites.

What our Mastermind does not know is you are closer to being accurate with your hunches concerning the drug cartels than you may have thought, only different. Well, not really totally accurate, but close. You see, my alias is well known in my community. He is some kind of Federal Agent or something, and he travels to Mexico regularly. I don't know the particulars, but I can only assume he travels on official business. He undoubtedly has ties to the drug cartels, but not the type you suspected, but ties none the less. So, you were lunging into a measure of the truth with respect to my alias anyway.

Hey, Mr. Mastermind Stalker, this game is really FUN, FUN, FUN. Maybe I should visit you at your websites, using my alias, maybe make a few more of them up myself like you have, maybe publish the links here so all our members can enjoy your commentary over there, and maybe we can all offer a contrary opinion to your drivel over there. Wouldn't that be fun!.)

You know, Mr. Mastermind Stalker, I was going to just ignore you, but it is kind of fun to fuck with you now. I may still grow bored with your amateurish assumptions, and your unethical behavior. It does kind of [CodeWord140] me off that you are such a slug that you would try to out me in the forum, even if it doesn't really effect me. But, it could REALLY, REALLY effect you. I'm sure my alias has some close personal ties to some really nice Mexican Drug Agents himself. Maybe I'll drop a dime, and let Randy know just exactly who is posting his wife's name in the forum..) Wouldn't that be interesting?

You need to see a professional doctor.

[Member #3453]

YOU? POST MONGERING REPORTS?

HAH! That's priceless!

Oh, noooooo, now I'm going to have to really watch that the conspirators don't single me out from such an accurate description of me. I especially like the fanny pack part...nice touch!

"Male" Stalkers???...whose only reason to visit a strip club is to track me down? Priorities, priorities, priorities...

Hummmm, very suspicious indeed...Lets see, Never visit strip clubs (check)...NEVER visit massage parlors (Check), Never Visit Escorts, and can't report on anything to do with Mongering WHATSOEVER (Check)..Uhmmm???

Naw, could it be "G I D?" (Google it...)

Well, the fanny pack thing isn't accurate at all..It's a "European Man Bag,"...along with my ruby slippers and my "Manzier," or "Bro", depending on whom is having a sale. Bet you don't even get that one, but all the Gringos will.

Well, just tell the waiters that the problem with the cookies is my source. Several years ago, my source was quite generous. But, now my source is hording them these days. I just can't seem to get them like I used to. I had to switch to black liqourice and chocolates. Too bad for the girls and the waiters. The cookies were sooooo popular while they lasted :-))))

[Larbo]

I am in Monterrey at least once a month, for at least three days at a time, but usually for a week at a time. I feel no different from a safety perspective now than I did six or eight years ago. I have no experience regarding driving or bussing across the border, as I always fly in. I do have a lot of experience in Zona Centro, mostly early in the evening, as I tend to get my selection done early and retire with her to my hotel.

I will be in Monterrey again next Wed. And Thursday, and flying back Friday. This is my second trip this month. On these shorter trips I usually rely on call-ins of a favorita or two. But, if Mother Nature or some other circumstance should intervene, I will go on down to Infinito's and report on my perception of personal safety both there and the Zona Centro in general. No promises, my favoritas come first, but I will try to do my part to lay this safety crap to rest.

[Larbo]

I try to make the reports here last year and the sponge cookie man do nothing but try and fight with me and others here. After the sponge guy attack me with all his various personality and multinicks I go to the infinito and ask about him. No more does he carry the cookies and nobody know him there when we first ask the girls. I say he think he is a ladies man here and maybe he look like richard gere or sean connery. One of the girls finally know who we talk about and laugh because he is fat old with a bald spot and wear a fanny pouch like a little girl. They say he only come one every three or four months and for a few days each time. At this point I feel bad for this spongebob guy because I understand he suffer from some mental problem.

I feel bad for his monterrey friend here on the foro as he knows that he say very foolish words and is maybe a fool.

We are all getting tired of your B. S. You are flat wrong here. I know for a fact you are way off base. People like you that have posted no verifiable mongering reports, and continually do nothing but fear mongering and name calling get no respect from anyone. Just read your report above. You did nothing that even remotely resembles a mongering report. You did nothing but attempt to smear a long time contributer of good reliable information.

You got the wrong guy, or some imaginary guy. No girl in Infinito's would ever remember a guy that "only come once every three or four months and for a few days each time".

Please crawl back under the rock you crawled out of. No one here will miss you.

[El Cazador]

The amount of information available about you from other mongers and from women you go with is voluminous, akin to a schoolgirl who updates her Facebook every 5 minutes with everything she thinks. You are either oblivious or in denial about this. In a gentleman's disgagreement I'm not going to reveal the specifics of such information, and I don't need you to "validate" it's veracity. I know what I know. Look you're a grown man with decades of experience in Monterrey and I don't question you have your own strategies to deal with the dangers of Monterrey, but the suggestion that you achieve this by keeping low profile is outright laughable. Unlike other mongers I don't really portend to have any street smarts at all, and I know I am entirely defenseless physically. I'm always amused by guys who think they're bullet proof by keeping an eye on their surroundings, but a motorcycle assassin or a roving gang of drug sniffing youths dispatched by someone watching you from the ninth floor of the building on the corner can nab you before can you can blink. I can't say that I have any elaborate strategy for avoiding danger beyond simply not going to places where danger is present. You have a very long history of attracting detractors, not just here and there, pretty much everyone who has posted on the forum for years. I can't pinpoint exactly why that is but after a certain point you have to start to wonder if it's something you're doing. I just hope that part of your personality does not rub off in your monger adventures, where it can turn into something a lot more serious that a little online feud.

I try to make the reports here last year and the sponge cookie man do nothing but try and fight with me and others here. After the sponge guy attack me with all his various personality and multinicks I go to the infinito and ask about him. No more does he carry the cookies and nobody know him there when we first ask the girls. I say he think he is a ladies man here and maybe he look like richard gere or sean connery. One of the girls finally know who we talk about and laugh because he is fat old with a bald spot and wear a fanny pouch like a little girl. They say he only come one every three or four months and for a few days each time. At this point I feel bad for this spongebob guy because I understand he suffer from some mental problem.

I feel bad for his monterrey friend here on the foro as he knows that he say very foolish words and is maybe a fool.

[Member #3453]

Wow! This is the mother of all pissing contests. Usually when these arise it is because guys can no longer get it up and are looking for something else to occupy their attentions. Case in point is an old fart on the Rio forum who was the master of Google with nothing better to do than pick apart the posts of others. When I started doing it to him, he finally got the hint and quit posting his nonsense.

As someone who recently traveled to Monterrey, it would have been great to have some current information on the stated purpose of this forum (finding women for sex) rather than all these off topic diatribes.

What are you talking about? I can name about 16 other sites where the pissing contests are much more egregious.

Ask your questions, and you'll get honest answers. But, you'll also have to read some bogus shit too about it being too dangerous to go the bars in Monterrey.

The reality is, the minute one of us that actually knows about the mongering scene here posts anything of substance, or contradicts the BS hype about the dangers being too great to monger in Mexico, we are slammed by the BSers on here that know nothing more than to recommend that you not visit Monterrey because the bars are just too dangerous, and you will be murdered if you come down.

They offer no information when asked numerous times about their mongering experiences, obviously because they have no experience in the bars, or anywhere else related to mongering. All they want to do is STOP you from mongering. Some of the few disingenuous Mexicanos that post in this section have a deep seeded prejudice against Americans coming to Mexico, and that's quite obvious.

Here's the difference, their objective is to completely persuade you not to come to Mexico, or on the other hand, that you choose to patronize only one type of venue, their's...their's being their own business interests.

My objective in posting is the opposite, knowing that you will be statistically safe, and recommending you patronize your venue of choice, realizing that every monger has different preferences, answering questions of mongers based on my ten years of experience in Monterrey. I don't comment about football, or the price of tortillas, but about things I have direct experience with, not about every aspect of Mexican society.

The pissing contest, as you call it, originates because the experienced in Monterrey, with respect to MONGERING, post opinions contrary to those bogus and hyped warnings about the dangers here being just too great to patronize the mongering scene, or we intervene when there are obvious advertisements promoting someone's business interests with obviously bias recommendations.

Even with the mayhem that exists within Mexican society, I know of NO VISITOR that has ever directly had anything serious ever happen to them in the bars of Monterrey with respect to being the target of cartels, gangs, not even by pissed off drunk low level street thugs, etc...

Nobody can substantiate their bogus claims with examples of foreign "visitors" to Monterrey strip clubs being robbed, beat up, and/or murdered and dumped on the outskirts of the city, not so much as even one incident.

So, what would you, as a Senior Members of this forum, do? We know better first hand, and have numerous reports with which to demonstrate our knowledge and experience here in Monterrey. Shall we let them just go on with their bogus claims about how dangerous it is for "YOU" to visit, all the while knowing that their self serving agendas motivate their comments?

Comon' you want to get your information from them? If we shut up, that's who will be reporting here. Look, why don't you ask them to report their experiences. I've tried!!!

Why don't you see how far you get? I'm running out of breath and patience. You have over 1200 posts, just as I do, obviously an experienced monger from RIO, not a place that is considered the safest of environments. It doesn't take us long to recognize bogus reporting when we see it. You be the judge.

[Exec Talent]

Wow! This is the mother of all pissing contests. Usually when these arise it is because guys can no longer get it up and are looking for something else to occupy their attentions. Case in point is an old fart on the Rio forum who was the master of Google with nothing better to do than pick apart the posts of others. When I started doing it to him, he finally got the hint and quit posting his nonsense.

As someone who recently traveled to Monterrey, it would have been great to have some current information on the stated purpose of this forum (finding women for sex) rather than all these off topic diatribes.

[Member #3453]

I don't think this is true.

No argument from me as to the demographics on the ground in Thailand. I never disputed that.

I say that ISG-Monterrey Section is primarily comprised of Gringos, many of which live in Texas, frequent Nuevo Laredo, and occasionally visit Monterrey, and also comprised of primarily Gringos that fly in occasionally from other States, mostly for work, and usually for just a few days at a time at most. Most never get the opportunity to return. There is an occasional visit to the ISG-Monterrey Section from mongers living in California and Arizona who like to comment on the differences between the two venues.

There are just a few Mexicanos reading the Monterrey section. Listen, Mexicanos don't need the ISG-Monterrey Section. They have prolific, Spanish Speaking blogs to receive mongering information from their own countrymen. They don't turn to ISG-Monterrey Section for pointers. They don't need them.

So, what's left is a certain percentage of those that are engaged in spreading BS, and self promotion. I know their goals and objectives, and I know why they're doing it. They do it for their own profiteering motivations.

Now, those are my opinions. I am sorry if that offends people, makes them angry, etc. But, that's too bad. The truth hurts. The situation is what it is, and I'm simply stating the facts, which they don't like reading, and which causes it to appear that my detractors are somehow disinterested parties with no hidden agenda to promote.