Monterrey

[Strike 69]

AUG 13, 2011 Last night, at 1 am, it seemed like all law enforcement agencies got together to close down bars, SC, and MPs on Villagran. There was the army, federal police, the state police, the local police, even the SAT (Mexican version of IRS) , and others.

I was lucky to go to El Infiinito yesterday afternoon for the last time. I went up with a 19 year old, little spinner called Andrea (I guess). She is physically fit, but wanted to overcharge $500 for FS, when the others ask for $300. I refused to pay $500, she wanted to negotiate $400, and finally agreed on $300, and it was a great f*ck. I loved how she moaned when I was doing her from behind. After I finished off, she suggested to do it next time in a hotel. Since I was leaving home this weekend, I didn't think it was a good idea to keep her phone number. If I were to return to Monterrey in a month or two, I would see her once again in El Infinito. Not anymore.

For those who can read Spanish more info:

http://info7.mx/a/noticia/286112

Rumor says the conservative mayor from the PAN Party (the Mexican version of the GOP) Larrazabal wanted to close down such places long before the Drug Wars incidents.

[Le Bogosse]

AUG 13, 2011 Last night, at 1 am, it seemed like all law enforcement agencies got together to close down bars, SC, and MPs on Villagran. There was the army, federal police, the state police, the local police, even the SAT (Mexican version of IRS) , and others.

I was lucky to go to El Infiinito yesterday afternoon for the last time. I went up with a 19 year old, little spinner called Andrea (I guess). She is physically fit, but wanted to overcharge $500 for FS, when the others ask for $300. I refused to pay $500, she wanted to negotiate $400, and finally agreed on $300, and it was a great f*ck. I loved how she moaned when I was doing her from behind. After I finished off, she suggested to do it next time in a hotel. Since I was leaving home this weekend, I didn't think it was a good idea to keep her phone number. If I were to return to Monterrey in a month or two, I would see her once again in El Infinito. Not anymore.

[Member #3453]

I need to know how some of the clubs are doing after the recent mayhem. I will be in Monterrei a few days for work, and want to know if I should stay close to the hotel, or if I can walk between the bars, take taxis, and still be safe. Recommendations? How are El Infi, El Infinito, Givenchy, Tangaloy, doing these days?

Had some drinks with several girls at El Infinito just the other night. Not much has changed. I never could figure out the attraction of sitting around a stage full of hollering raucous Mexicans intent on coping a feel for ten seconds. But, with the recent violence, the idea that things are returning to normal, and that there were some raucous Mexican dudes in there doing what they enjoy best is comforting. Took two or three into the privados, girls that is, not raucous Mexican dudes. I eventually took Diana on salida and had a great time! Things are a little slower in the bars right now, but picking-up, and the routines are all still the same. $50p privados, girls dancing on the stage, just fewer of them, and it seems like fewer patrons on average too. Drink prices the same. Late at night, there is less activity on the streets than before. But, the city is still busy up until around 1-2am. The escorts will cost you $2000-3000p and up for 45 minutes. The Infinito girls will cost you 1000 pesos and 350 peso bar fine for two hours. Girls from Givenchy and some of the other lowly bars will cost you less if you talik them down. The girls from mid-level bars like Casino, Harem, Azul, Pasarelas, etc. Will cost you around $800p for the bar fine, and $1000-1500 pesos for the girl. The massage girls are quite a bit cheaper than that. But, I don't like the quality of most massage girls. I don't like the potential for a pig in a poke with escort girls, divulging my particulars to what is an anonymous phoned-in service. With SC girls you can see what you're getting, take them in the privados, find out if they have what it takes before you throw down a bunch of dough, they don't know where you're going until you're in the taxi, and the club is responsible for their behavior. In my book, the massage parlors are the most secure, the strip clubs are next, and the escorts are the least secure.

[ErickMorsa]

I need to know how some of the clubs are doing after the recent mayhem. I will be in Monterrei a few days for work, and want to know if I should stay close to the hotel, or if I can walk between the bars, take taxis, and still be safe. Recommendations? How are El Infi, El Infinito, Givenchy, Tangaloy, doing these days?

Bars like this ones not a good option this days, better to move in escort agencies, there are a lot of webpages from a variety of prices and for all tastes, to the door of your hotel, you can pay for good and nice girls? There is Bomboncitasregias, Regioscorts, Escortsmonterrey. Net, Modelsmonterrey, you want better prices? Edecanesmx, http://arielyelcirculo.********.com/, and so many others, again, with the security and confort of your room in the hotel. If a lot of locals don't go out for security reasons, why you will put yourself in risk? Unless you know the city very well.

[Member #3453]

I need to know how some of the clubs are doing after the recent mayhem. I will be in Monterrei a few days for work, and want to know if I should stay close to the hotel, or if I can walk between the bars, take taxis, and still be safe. Recommendations? How are El Infi, El Infinito, Givenchy, Tangaloy, doing these days?

[Porker]

Well the difference is you speak perfect Spanish and you've known the business for quite a while.

Mongers that come for a few days and been to businesses with a big gap of months and speak little to zero Spanish are the ones that get into trouble pricewise.

Good answer, and adding more, MTY hasn't been an easy nut to crack for ME since many years ago, but that girl / bar (ex-greek icon on villagran) shocked the hell out of me on Friday afternoon and BLEW ME AWAY. VIVA VILLAGRAN!

[MonterreyDude]

Well the difference is you speak perfect Spanish and you've known the business for quite a while.

Mongers that come for a few days and been to businesses with a big gap of months and speak little to zero Spanish are the ones that get into trouble pricewise.

Unless they're desperate for business and drop their pants. Ask me how I know?

[Porker]

Monterrey businesses are different from many places.

Since clubs do not cater to outside people coming to Monterrey, but almost totally to locals, business prices have remained stable for years.

But one thing is true all over. A girl sees an American, prices go up.

They try doing it, but monger should be aware of the true prices.

Unless they're desperate for business and drop their pants. Ask me how I know?

[Porker]

Is this the I double Crm-pied a DD teenager for 18 bucks in Mexico's city that never sleeps forum?

Just checking.

[Member #3453]

Recently I had a girl mad at me for telling one of her "boyfriends" that she was working the bars in his absence

Oh, and I forgot to mention Bbond. You were right in telling him he was being lied to by her. We should absolutely tell our friends or fellow mongers the truth if we happen to catch these bar girls in lies, even if our "friends" are only acquaintances. Too many mongers are willing to remain quiet, believing they're staying out of "it, " or protecting their friend's feelings, etc. Shame on them! They are only being complicit in the bar girl screwing over their friend or fellow monger. We owe these bar girls absolutely nothing. That's the way they play the game.

[Member #3453]

lying out both sides of her mouth.

Mexican bar girls usually come from very shady origins to begin with, from shady and manipulative skills learned over many past generations. Their behaviors could almost be defined as "instinctual' in the current generation.

Even those that have the sweetest of intentions deep down, are still always engaging in some kind of lying or larceny in order to survive and prosper. To expect much honesty from them is only setting yourself up for disappointment.

If you decide to help them out, do so out of the goodness of your own heart, and/or do it out of your own selfish best interest, assuming it enhances your time with them. To expect anything beyond that is likely to end in disappointment.

[Bbond]

It all comes back to return on investment. Only the individual can determine if the ROI is there.

Recently I had a girl mad at me for telling one of her "boyfriends" that she was working the bars in his absence, breaking a promise she made to him. This girl is one of the ones I speak of, she has 3 or 4 "boyfriends" promising exclusivity to each, promising to stay away from the bars, all while supporting a real boyfriend.

I had no idea at first who she was referring to, as I did not know the guy that well, he just happened to be a friend of another friend, I had no idea of the agreement he supposedly had with her. He simply asked if I knew her or had seen her recently. When he asked, I said of course I knew her, who didn't, and I saw her the night before in the bar.
He said " that lying *****!"
I said, "Welcome to Mexico"
I generally try not getting in the middle, but like I said I hardly knew the guy or the deal he had with her.

This is the type of scamming I refer to, promising exclusivity, promising not to work, lying out both sides of her mouth.

[Le Bogosse]

Let me point out that the best time to get to Infinito is after 6:00-7:00 pm.

That's when the "divas" are in.

Many of the regulars like Priscilla, Maya, Dayana are there by 5:00 but the best get there later.

Also, you have to realize that you were overcharged. Full service goes for 300 pesos.

Price hasn't gone up, nor it will for the meanwhile till Infinito crawls back to it's former glory.

In your opinion, who are the best girls? I might have the chance to go to Infinito this week. Don't know if I can make it after 7 pm. I can only recognize Dayana from the ones you mentioned.

Yes, I know I was overcharged mainly because I didn't discuss the rate before saying yes (bad move). And then, since she provided the condom, and did a far better job than Dayana and Kimberly from the past week, and for a longer period of time, I thought it was ok to pay $70 extras.

[Member #3453]

Gringo saps.

They being SAPS is the conventional wisdom, and I agree with those generalized conclusions. I agree that guys should go into the whole mongering thing with their eyes wide open, and that they not engage in foolish dilusions.

But, there's a fine line between being "scammed, " and reserving for yourself a certain measure of predictability. It can be just as expensive if you're not minimizing disappointments that frequently accompany making random selections of girls whose ability to "please" is an unknown quantity. Guys that are helping girls out are often making that kind of investment in return for a girl's overall known ability to please them in many diverse respects, not just sex. If the benefits are there, and the girl's veracity can be verified, then helping the girl out may be justified.

Being a SAP is not a condition exclusive to Gringos. There are just as many Mexicanos in Monterrey that lavish huge amounts of pesos on their favoritas in the bars on drinks and privados each week, spending an equal or even greater amounts compared to the Gringo SAPS helping out their girlfriends. Those expenditures are no less expensive than investments made by guys proven to have found a good thing, and their choosing to stick with it rather than make the investment in other respects.

It all comes back to return on investment. Only the individual can determine if the ROI is there.

[Bbond]

But one thing is true all over. A girl sees an American, prices go up.

Pretty much true of all Mexico, gringos are perceived to have money. They perceive that is why we are able to be there in the first place.

And due to the fact that some gringos come and throw money, the girls perception is usually correct.

Here in Nuevo Laredo, many truck drivers come once every month or so, they have money saved and know they won't be back soon, so they throw money, stupidly, but they have it to throw.

So girls flock to them.

I know several girls that fleece gringos like no tomorrow, they have 3 or 4 guys that send them money. They throw the sob story about 3 or 4 kids, all need food all need school stuff. Guy bites, poor girl, and sends her money, she has 3 more she talked into the same thing. Girls that say they work only to support their kids, when in truth they live for the party, to get away from the kids, let grandma raise them. She could have 10 guys sending her money, she would still come to the bar. She makes serious dollars, from saps, and hopes that more than one at a time won't be here at any one time.

I know one girl that drives a US$24,000 SUV, (late model Expedition, Eddie Bauer) Texas plates. Hahahhaaa. Gringo saps.