Monterrey

[Member #3453]

Anybody have any ideas on some safe mongering?

Don't visit Casinos unless you have an asbestos suite.

Don't go to legitimate dance clubs unless you wear a bullet proof vest.

Don't pick up street walkers unless you like transvestites.

Everything else is on the table.

[Billbob1234]

Anybody have any ideas on some safe mongering?

[Member #3453]

I wondered where everyone went. I even tried contacting USB via private message, and his screen name has been completely "Retired" from the forum. I can tell you that things are really slow in the clubs in Monterrey right now. Villagran is still shut down, and what girls were left from Villagran have been dispersed to some of the other bars, such as Matehuala, Casino, Harem, Pasarelas, Azul Tequilla. But, NOT many girls from Villagran have returned to work, only a few. And, there are fewer patrons in those bars as well. It's the Chicken and the Egg. No patrons, no girls, no girls, no patrons. All of Villagran, which was an obvious target for those that know nothing, is virtually GONE. If you don't know your shit, it becomes real obvious you don't know your shit regardless of screen name at this point. All those reports, and all that history about all the bars on Villagran is totally and completely irrelevant. No more hyped-up warnings, at least none concerning Villagran anyway, unless you want to warn us that we're going to get Blue Balls if we go down there.

Just to clarify, Mexicanuk, I didn't mean to appear to be directing any critical comments toward you. I just was expressing my agreement that the comments have all but dried up in the Monterrey forum, probably because of the intimidation factor from the trolls.

With the closing of Villagran, it signals a huge opportunity for those who have been too frustrated to post on account of the trolls. If a lurker is intimidated by trolls, then it's probably advisable not to comment within the forums as only one particular screen name, or with any specifics about your actual activities.

The experienced members know what is BS and what isn't. Those who have experience can help guide those that don't. The forum will rebound as members regain their courage to comment as whomever they choose to be. At least in that way, you can express your true opinions with complete anonymity, and without the repercussions. Now, with the death of Villagran, actual Experience is power, and screen names don't matter. That's how we can breath some activity back into the forum, which was an idea that was actually a consequence of the trolls, and visitors from other Mexican Forums on ISG that just like to stir the shit.

[Celina Lara]

Mangas Coloradas make a post here last week suggest that the word mamóand is used common by the girls in the bars to descibe us. This is wrong and Unspongebob experience above is a good example. I do not respond to Mangas directly as I beleive that many people who make the reports here are actually the same person that use different names and use the same keyboard. Maybe he sufrir from various personailty identity.

When the girl above steal Bobs phone she have no respect for him and treat him like a puñeta, a jerk-off. This person is thought of as the class clown and most people avoid this tipo of person but will tolereate him and be polite but will not invite him to their table.

When Bob goes back to the club after the stolen phone and have all the girls personal things exposed by the doormans he is now elevated to a pendejo level by all the girls for he is rude. The doormans still only think of him as a puñeta as he is not rude to them.

But when Bob goes back to the girl that steal from him for more relaciones he is now looked at as a momòand by everybody in the club. For the girl steal and slap his face and he has no othere opciones but to go back with the girl.

If you visit here and are a guest in our country and somebody call you a puñeta, pendejo, or mamóand, please leave the place very quickly as these are very bad words sometimes led to fights. Also, please treat people with respect here and don't talk down to us or use bad words on the street or even a internet foro as you could be made to look like a fool or something worse.

*puñeta- sometimes this word is used among friends in the younger ages but is rare. This is almost like when black people say what's up nig_er! Obviously you don't want to say the same to the same black man.

I am a dancer here in one of the clubs and will tell you that many of the girls now work in the massage parlor.

I would like to make a post here regarding Unspongebob. This report is very informative as many of the girls here will steal from you if they believe that you are a gullible fool and have no respect for you and don't want to be with you. The unspongebob gringo is known here in the clubs as he brings the treats and most of the girls just feel sorry for him as he sits alone and many times is seen to talking to himself. If a girl here does not like you my advice to you is to try and find a uglier one that has less or no customers. That way she will be happy to be with you and will probably not steal from you. The supply and demand works for clients as well as us providers. If there is no demand for you as a client, then there will be no supply of girls for you being the customer. Also its okay being old and having a bald spot. But get in shape and be fit! No one wants a fatty for a client.

[Member #3453]

Eaxactly what I've been thinking. Has mty gone from the party town to nothing. I am due to be back there early next week and keep hoping that the clubs had reopened.

I wondered where everyone went. I even tried contacting USB via private message, and his screen name has been completely "Retired" from the forum. I can tell you that things are really slow in the clubs in Monterrey right now. Villagran is still shut down, and what girls were left from Villagran have been dispersed to some of the other bars, such as Matehuala, Casino, Harem, Pasarelas, Azul Tequilla. But, NOT many girls from Villagran have returned to work, only a few. And, there are fewer patrons in those bars as well. It's the Chicken and the Egg. No patrons, no girls, no girls, no patrons. All of Villagran, which was an obvious target for those that know nothing, is virtually GONE. If you don't know your shit, it becomes real obvious you don't know your shit regardless of screen name at this point. All those reports, and all that history about all the bars on Villagran is totally and completely irrelevant. No more hyped-up warnings, at least none concerning Villagran anyway, unless you want to warn us that we're going to get Blue Balls if we go down there.

[MexCanuck]

The legitimate regulars seem to have completely abandoned the forum, and with them went my daily dose of entertainment. Now, they don't even comment, much less use a false screen name. They finally gave up on fighting the trolls. Ain't anybody in Monterrey mongering these days, or has everybody been scarred off by chicken little.

Eaxactly what I've been thinking. Has mty gone from the party town to nothing. I am due to be back there early next week and keep hoping that the clubs had reopened.

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[Member #3453]

They say those idiots gave everyone a chance to leave the building, and that some patrons inadvertently went further back into the rear part of the building by mistake. The dumb asses didn't realize that some patrons didn't exit the building? Seems like cartel members are just dumb shits, and that most of what everyone thinks are ruthless crimes are actually just the acts of stupid dumb asses. Gambling is on my mind when I'm in Vegas, but fortunately for me, it's last thing I'm thinking about in Monterrey.

They not only have these crimes to contend with, they not only have the degradation of Mexico by the worldwide media to to contend with, but their very own citizens feed the frenzy with the very same rhetoric. Is every Mexican also complicit in aiding and abetting the downfall of Mexico as a result? I think so. Watch as the downfall of the Mexican economy follows. They only have themselves to blame. But, it really is too bad that we'll have to fly over Mexico to other more stable South American countries. Cause, that's what's coming. Where are the Mexicans that oppose this constant dissing of their own country through support of the constant incessant rhetoric?

[El Cazador]

I don't make the report for long time because I think everyone who read the forum now understand that unspongebob and all his alias are made to be the fool but yesterday they kill 60 people in the casino royale one of the biggest casino in monterrey. They have many attack here before because the do not pay the cartel but yesterday was made to destroy the business.

The cartels are taking over mexico and it is very dangerous for you to come to monterrey. They again hanging the bodies of bridges here in plain view for everyone to see there power.

Be very careful here in monterrey and do not take the advice of a fat old man with a blad spot.

[Member #3453]

I have heard that tidbit of history before. What is also interesting is the parallel to Monterrey's handling of the SC's, and the effect upon public health, etc. In the case of the floating wh0rehouse, the army originally put the girls on the boat due to rampant venereal disease in the ranks. After the girls were finally returned to Nashville, the US Army provisional government instituted the same kind of health check as we have in Monterrey, where the girls were required to register, have regular health checkups, and treated promptly for any signs of disease, etc. Disease spreading from the girl's activities dropped to almost nothing, and the red light district in Nashville returned to even greater glory, with virtually no effect upon the army or public health. The problem with a floating wh0rehouse in Monterrey, is that the river may be long and wide, but it doesn't rise sufficiently to float a boat on a regular basis, just a trickle most of the time.

[Member #3453]

We should relocate all the girls of Villagran to a floating *****house. That would solve all the security issues, except potential drowning.

The "Floating working girl House;" The statement of John M. Newcomb.

The statement of John M. Newcomb seeking reimbursement for damages sustained to the steamship Idahoe (GET IT! IDAHOE!) in July 1863, relative to damages to the 'floating working girl house. '

Washington D. C.

August 16, 1865.

Hon. E. M. Stanton.

Secy. Of War.

Sir:

I must respectfully beg leave to draw your attention to the following statement of facts in relation to my claim for subsisting 111 prostitutes from Nashville, Tenn, to Cincinnati, Ohio, and back to Nashville, on board my steamer 'Idahoe. '

On the 8th of July 1863, while my boat was under charter by USA [sic] and in service at Nashville these prostitutes were put on board of her by a detachment of soldiers who were ordered to do so by Lt. Col. Spaulding, pro. [vost] mar. [shal] gen. [eral] and Capt. Stubbs, asst. Quartermaster who were acting under orders of Gen. Morgan. I protested against their putting these women on my boat. She being a new boat, only three months built, her furniture new, and a fine passenger boat. I told them it would forever ruin her reputation as a passenger boat if they were put upon her. (It has done so. She is not and has since been known as the floating working girl house [sic]) and pointed out to them old boats that were in the service at the time which would have answered toe purpose as well as mine, but no, they said I must take them. Being in the employ of the govt. And the control of Capt. Stubbs the quartermaster, I was compelled to keep them on my boat. On the same day that they were put on board I was ordered to start with them to Louisville. I asked Capt. Stubbs how these women were to be subsisted & he told me I would have to see Gen. Morgan about that. I saw Gen. Morgan and he told me to subsist them myself. I entreated of him to let the gov't subsist them, that it could do much less [sic] (more?) than I could. His reply was, 'you subsist them. ' When I found Gen. Morgan determined that I should subsist them, I had to buy meat and vegetable s at enormous high prices [sic] from storeboats along the river, and in addition at many places to buy ice and medicines, these women being diseased and more than one half of them sick in bed. I applied to other commissary's of sub. [sic] along the route, for commissary stores, to feed these women; but at each place was refused by the officer in charge, and the civil as well as the military authorities would not allow my boat to land, and put guards along the shore to prevent me from doing so. When leaving Nashville I applied for a guard to be put on board. Gen. Morgan told me I did not need any, but to take charge of them myself. Having no guard I could not keep men along the route from coming on board to these women, when at anchor, and being angered because I strove to drive them away both themselves and these bad women destroyed and damaged my boat and her furniture to a great extent. When I arrived at Louisville I stated my grievances to Gen. Boyle and he gave me a guard and ordered me to proceed to Cincinnati and await further orders there. I remained in the stream opposite Cincinnati because I would not be allowed to land for thirteen days, when I was ordered to Nashville again with my cargo of prostitutes.

I wish to say to your honor that I was compelled to subsist these women, that it cost me all that I have made a charge for to do so, that the claim is merely a reimbursement of my money which I had to expend while complying with the orders of the officers of the United States government; that I could not have this money he returned me at the place where I was ordered to perform this service because officers who ordered me would not direct a settlement of my account to be made. I had to leave my business and travel from Cincinnati to this place to see if I could collect it. It being over two years due me. I am here now one week going from one office to another, to see to get my papers, and to effect a settlement, which I have not yet done, unless your honor will please direct payment of this account so justly due me, and for a long time.

The enclosed order from the officers directing me to perform this duty are herewith respectfully submitted for your consideration.

Very respectfully,

Your Obt. Sert.

John M. Newcomb.

As a result, the poor captain, and his boat, were a laughing stock for all the remaining years he cruised the river systems of the South. Children ran to the shore exclaiming,"here comes the floating *****house!"

[Member #3453]

I noticed that the Federal Police are hold up in a hotel along Madero. They have the dual lanes on the North side of the street completely blocked at night to avoid drive-by shootings. Several policeman are posted outside the hotel with automatic weapons.

I was amused that one of them was openly consorting with a really slutty, heavily tattooed, boobs bounding out of her top, an openly obvious h*ker, and all while they are on duty. She was sitting next to him, and several of them were out there with their tongues hanging out, big wide smiles, cutting-up, etc.

Now, this is what makes Mexico, Mexico! Yeah!

In the US, the police would have her ass moving right along. Otherwise, police supervisors would have them hanging by their balls. Things may be more dangerous, but Mexican culture and tolerance hasn't changed.

[Member #3453]

I was tipped off in advance. My spies told me the shutdowns were coming. So, I was sure to stay out of the fray. Lets hope the shutdowns are not as permanent as has been reported. After all, this is Mexico. If these bars are not open in less than two weeks, I'll be shocked. The authorities basically shut down Villagran. The rest of the bars along Madero remain untouched. Lets hope it stays that way. There is, after all, a bit of a policy war going on between the political parties. Seems PAN won this one.

Hummm, isn't Primores where Porker had some success last weekend? He referred to a former Greek Icon in his post. Would have been Parthenon (Primores) right?

[MonterreyDude]

All the Madero ave clubs and every single one elsewhere are still open and working.

Temporarly closed are Infinito and Givenchy.

Shut down: Tangalay and Primores.

"Permanence" in Mexico must be a very short lived proposition.

Which clubs are considered "temporarily" shut down, and which clubs are considered "permenantly" shut down? The article you referenced says they targeted Villagran bars. Are the rest of the bars in the city being left alone?

[MonterreyDude]

Bars that were closed temporarly will open on Tuesday.

Those that were shut down permanently will open by Thursday.

For those who can read Spanish more info:

http://info7.mx/a/noticia/286112

Rumor says the conservative mayor from the PAN Party (the Mexican version of the GOP) Larrazabal wanted to close down such places long before the Drug Wars incidents.