Monterrey

[Strike 69]

Yes, that's true. Point well taken. It could even be argued that the Native Americans in the USA quite possibly originate from the same stock as are in Southern Mexico. Regardless, the Mexicanos don't want them, and I adore them.

Particularly I find the states of Guerrero and Oaxaca to the south a very good option if you like Indian and Black women, in the mountains and central valleys of such states you can find and drill nice indigenous girls (either westernized or not) while in the pacific coasts of the very same states it is possible to find a lot of African Mexican ladies who will very happy to spread their legs in exchange of an economic compensation.

[Member #3453]

Is useless to discuss this for example the traditional White Anglo Saxon Protestant is neither a native American, in that case (as well in Mexico) the real natives are the Indians. The difference? Indians in Mexico make a considerable chunk of the total population (specially in the South) while in the US they are not as the dominant majority are WASP.

Yes, that's true. Point well taken. It could even be argued that the Native Americans in the USA quite possibly originate from the same stock as are in Southern Mexico. Regardless, the Mexicanos don't want them, and I adore them.

[Strike 69]

Your post implies you are Mexican. Well, there is no such thing as a native Mexican. Well, I take that back. Yes, the lower castes are actually the native Mexicans. If you are of Spanish European decent, you are NOT native Mexican. And, if you are mostly of Spanish European decent, you should be able to discern and appreciate their Asian features, just as I do.

Therefore, you are either more native Mexican than you realize, causing you to shun "same / same" attraction, or you are mostly Spanish European Mexican, and your culturally induced prejudice has blocked your ability to appreciate them.

No matter. You do not appreciate them, and because you don't appreciate them, they cost those of us that do appreciate them much less. Makes no difference why you shun them, just that you do. More sweet meat, cheap. Gracias!

Is useless to discuss this for example the traditional White Anglo Saxon Protestant is neither a native American, in that case (as well in Mexico) the real natives are the Indians. The difference? Indians in Mexico make a considerable chunk of the total population (specially in the South) while in the US they are not as the dominant majority are WASP.

[Member #3453]

We are not blind to this fact. We know as a reality that eons ago the Bearing strait was land and that our Mexican natives and American natives came from Asia and were the first colonizers of America as a whole.

What you see is DNA that has not mixed in millenia simpley because we Mexicans shun mixing blood with lower castes, specially native Mexicans.

The point is that this "colonization" thing happened so long ago we just don't care if they has Asian ancestry at all cause they are "from here. Not from over there. "

And it's not just local native Mexican girls. In general, we do not like SEA girls. It's also in our DNA. We see them as local indian look alikes.

We shun them too.

Your post implies you are Mexican. Well, there is no such thing as a native Mexican. Well, I take that back. Yes, the lower castes are actually the native Mexicans. If you are of Spanish European decent, you are NOT native Mexican. And, if you are mostly of Spanish European decent, you should be able to discern and appreciate their Asian features, just as I do.

Therefore, you are either more native Mexican than you realize, causing you to shun "same/same" attraction, or you are mostly Spanish European Mexican, and your culturally induced prejudice has blocked your ability to appreciate them.

No matter. You do not appreciate them, and because you don't appreciate them, they cost those of us that do appreciate them much less. Makes no difference why you shun them, just that you do. More sweet meat, cheap. Gracias!

[MonterreyDude]

We are not blind to this fact. We know as a reality that eons ago the Bearing strait was land and that our Mexican natives and American natives came from Asia and were the first colonizers of America as a whole.

What you see is DNA that has not mixed in millenia simpley because we Mexicans shun mixing blood with lower castes, specially native Mexicans.

The point is that this "colonization" thing happened so long ago we just don't care if they has Asian ancestry at all cause they are "from here. Not from over there."

And it's not just local native Mexican girls. In general, we do not like SEA girls. It's also in our DNA. We see them as local indian look alikes.

We shun them too.

Your comments about Asian girls is especially interesting. I perceive many Mexican girls to have distinctly Asian features, especially the ones that have Mexican Indian Ancestry, when Mexicanos do not seem to easily pickup on this parallel.

I always kind of wonder if most Mexicanos are mostly blind to this parallel, and if the Asian titillation that I see in so many Mexican girls is lost on most Mexicanos. I am frequently told by my Mexican friends that they can't see the Asian influence in many Mexican girls, an influence that I always pick-up on right away.

Thankfully, I can easily detect the parallel. Why thankfully? Because, it is relatively cheap for the ones that I perceive to have Asian features, and because this combo is perfect for my preferences, Mexican / Asian. And, since most Mexicanos seem to shun the girls that are of Mexican Indian (Asian) ancestry, referring back to your observation that what is in abundance is of no interest, and what is rare is sought after and expensive, I get what I think are the very best ones really cheap.

[Member #3453]

Asian girls in Mexico are extremely rare, finding an Asian working girl is going to be like the local saying says: "encontrar una aguja en un pajar". Some High End clubs in DF are infested with Russian / Eastern European escorts and although they are very expensive they are still affordable taking in account the average cost of p4p in Mexico City which sadly are already expensive (a third world capital with first world prices regarding the sex market, what a non sense)

Your comments about Asian girls is especially interesting. I perceive many Mexican girls to have distinctly Asian features, especially the ones that have Mexican Indian Ancestry, when Mexicanos do not seem to easily pickup on this parallel.

I always kind of wonder if most Mexicanos are mostly blind to this parallel, and if the Asian titillation that I see in so many Mexican girls is lost on most Mexicanos. I am frequently told by my Mexican friends that they can't see the Asian influence in many Mexican girls, an influence that I always pick-up on right away.

Thankfully, I can easily detect the parallel. Why thankfully? Because, it is relatively cheap for the ones that I perceive to have Asian features, and because this combo is perfect for my preferences, Mexican/Asian. And, since most Mexicanos seem to shun the girls that are of Mexican Indian (Asian) ancestry, referring back to your observation that what is in abundance is of no interest, and what is rare is sought after and expensive, I get what I think are the very best ones really cheap.

[Strike 69]

Asian or Brazilian girls in Mexico, yes, the price is high. Asian or Brazilian girls in Asia or Brazil, no, the price is cheap. The supply of Asian girls or Brazilian Girls in Asia or Brazil is so much higher in Asia or Brazil compared to the number of customers, they are cheaper there. It is like everywhere else. Hombres in Mexico see something different in a Brazilian or Asian Girls, and the price goes way up. Take the same Asian or Brazilian girl and the price is dirt cheap in Asia or Brazil in comparison to seeing them in Mexico. Los Hombres, what is the price of a Swidish girl in Mexico? Don't ask. You can't afford it.

It is true what you said a Venezuelan, Argentinian or Brazilian prostitute charge 3x or 4x more in Mexico than back at home, I have read local South American forums and men over them said that Mexican men are "boludos" (assholes - pendejos) due paying those ridiculous high prices to their women. Regarding Swedish girls even in Sweden local Swedes cannot afford to hire and drill a Swedish working girl either because she is way to expensive or because that Swede risks himself of going to jail due prostitution begin absolutely illegal over there. In the other hand non pros Swedish girls have fame of spreading their legs quite easily but that's a different story.

An ironic fact though is that Mexican Mediterranean brunettes ladies are BIG stock in Sweden (due the country being infested with blondes and redheads) I have seen it with my own eyes more than once, those Swedes guys went absolutely crazy with a dark haired brunette Mexicana, it is even more ironic the same but in the opposite way would happen in Mexico with blonde Swedish girls.

Asian girls in Mexico are extremely rare, finding an Asian working girl is going to be like the local saying says: "encontrar una aguja en un pajar". Some High End clubs in DF are infested with Russian / Eastern European escorts and although they are very expensive they are still affordable taking in account the average cost of p4p in Mexico City which sadly are already expensive (a third world capital with first world prices regarding the sex market, what a non sense)

[Strike 69]

Does anyone know what happened to Karen of Luces azules? She was a young big titted hottie with huge pussy lips and clit, any info about her whereabouts will be very much appreciated.

[Member #3453]

For people who are not understand what is happen in Mexico right now, the cartels and zetas are not gangs, they are armies fighting for control over Mexico. Mexico is right now in a Civil War. Only a dumb fat old gringo with a bald spot that think he know more about Mexico than a Mexican that lives here would not know this.

I tell you before not to go out to Villagran after the Encanto bar suffer the killings and less than one month later they make the massacre at Sabino. And I tell you now do not go to the clubs for minimal one month after they open again.

The unspongebob bald gringo does not know what happen in Mexico because he does not live here.

I am sorry, I must disagree. Am Mexican living in San Diego. I am in Tijuana mostly, but I sometimes come to Monterrey for business. But, you sound like you are proud of the Cartels and that you want civil war. They are not an army. They are terrible criminals fighting a war over control of an illegal business. The regular guy living in Mexico just wants peace. A civil war is when regular Mexicans fight each other about political disagreements. I have hundreds of friends and relatives living in Mexico, and am Mexican, but educated in the US. You should stop saying that we Mexicans are fighting a civil war. That is not true.

[El Cazador]

For people who are not understand what is happen in Mexico right now, the cartels and zetas are not gangs, they are armies fighting for control over Mexico. Mexico is right now in a Civil War. Only a dumb fat old gringo with a bald spot that think he know more about Mexico than a Mexican that lives here would not know this.

I tell you before not to go out to Villagran after the Encanto bar suffer the killings and less than one month later they make the massacre at Sabino. And I tell you now do not go to the clubs for minimal one month after they open again.

The unspongebob bald gringo does not know what happen in Mexico because he does not live here.

[Member #3453]

It has nothing to do with there being a greater likelihood that the strip clubs on Villagran will be targeted by the cartels. It has everything to do with city officials thinking that the strip clubs on Villagran are undesirable, and should be closed for good.

They have wanted to close the strip clubs on Villagran for years. They're using Sabino Gordo to close the strip clubs on Villagran, not because they are truly vulnerable to cartel attack, but because they think the bars detract from their intended presentation of Monterrey. Just as Las Pulgas on Reforma have always been a target for city officials, the strip clubs on Villagran have also.

There is a push-on at the political level to clean up some of the seedy areas of Monterrey, and it has nothing to do with cleaning up the cartels. Reforma was just recently demolished with only about two days notice to the occupants. Stripped clean, and absolutely no residual evidence that it ever even existed. There today, gone tomorrow.

Sabino Gordo simply gave them an excuse to shut down Villagran. It's that simple. Sabino Gordo never was a "target. " It was two rival gangs with ichy trigger fingers. That's from the official investigation. So, all this hype about the cartels targeting this, the cartels targeting that, especially with respect to the strip clubs, is BS. The strip clubs have not endured one instance of "targeting" by the cartels of any kind. Even the Givenchy murders a number of years ago were committed against the orders of the cartels, and the killers were bumped off by their own as a result.

The murders at Sabino Gordo, as unfortunate as they may have been, served their political purposes quite well. The strip clubs on Villagran are only more vulnerable compared to 6-months ago because city politics made them so. And we, as mongers, have no additional vulnerability just because we are sitting in a strip club.

The vulnerability exists from the overall instability of Mexico attributable to the cartels. Statistically speaking, our potential for vulnerability is just as high at St. Augustine's Mall as it is in a strip club. Why attribute any more vulnerability to the strip clubs when there is absolutely no evidence that they possess more vulnerability than anywhere else. Statistically, your vulnerability as a monger, even from the terrible acts of the cartels, crime, and traffic accidents combined, is so low that to consider it as part of your decision to visit Monterrey is totally and completely ridiculous.

[El Cazador]

Monterreydude mention they open the clubs soon. I avise you stay away for maybe one month more as many beleive that there will be one more attack as the same as sabino gorda to make the revenge. The war between the cartel and zeta maybe get stronger as they dump 35 dead zeta bodies on the street of Veracruz this week to make the strong statement.

Please take my avise in to the consideration. I know the fat old man with the bald spot and his aliases are to make the attack to me again but he has been wrong the entire time about Monterrey.

[MonterreyDude]

Not just yet but they will start opening withinn 15 days.

So is el infinito and the villagran clubs reopened yet or what?

[Jinxx]

So is el infinito and the villagran clubs reopened yet or what?

[Member #3453]

If you like this kind of thing then follow the advise of the hunter.

Kind of funny, but give it a rest! What we need is real reporting and not a bunch of hog wash. Seriously, the low end bars in Monterrey are in crappy shape, and using up band-width just to insult or make fun of other members isn't going to help any of us one little bit. I don't agree with the dooms day posts, and I think they're exaggerated. But, none the less, I just wish both sides would start contributing useful information instead of constantly bickering back and forth out of some self-aggrandizing "gotcha" motivation. Aren't you guys interested in mongering, or has trolling become the primary motivator.