Monterrey

[Prokofiev]

Mick . . .

There are several MPs with 24-hr service. Most close at 10pm.
Don't worry about walking , just take a cab. These 3 have web-sites

Signore is the cheapest. At night expect 200-350 pesos for 30 minutes.
http://www.signore.com.mx/principal.html

Have not been here. Costs more. Only saw the website
http://www.passion.com.mx/

This place is expensive. Really more of a casa than a MP. 2000 pesos minimum. Very nice girls.
http://www.misses.com.mx/

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As of Feb 2007

I have been back in Monterrey for a quick 2 days. Visited several clubs, and went to numerous massage places to check out the goods.

First off, the massage prices continue to fall - at least the promocion prices. Several places were 80p, 100p, 110 and 130. The bad news is that most have added the twist of a propina for removing her top, a second position etc. If you give them 200p =$18US and say the rest is hers, you can be pretty much assured of doing what you want, in as many positions as you like. Still an incredible bargain.

I had 6 sessions in 5 places in 2 days and I thought the much mentioned Signore to still be the best of the lot. King size beds, huge rooms w showers and girls with the right attitude. I had Grecia, 22 a smallish morena twice and enjoyed the experience. Very cute girl with only a few stretch marks on her stomach. Nice attitude, a good time. $18 well spent.

Tried a new? place Sensaciones at Juan Alverez 820 - very close to Matehuala. Can recommend Fernanda, 27 for incredible oral skills. Did a CBJ only for 15 minutes. Very nice face and great attitude. With 3 kids her stomach was a mess, but watching her face while she gives grade-A head . . . priceless.

The rooms at both Duality and Shakira leave alot to be desired, but at least you can lie down. Forgetable experiences at both.

Finally another new? place at Villagomez 825 - across the street from Signore, was nice. I can recommend Judith -33 but looks much younger. Very nice body, great attitude. Would go back if I had more time.

Another tip`at these places. If you find a girl you really enjoyed, ask her for a card with the places address. She will often give you her cell number to get in touch later (free-lance at your hotel after hours). This saves her the house fee and allows you more time in a nicer ambience. Didn´t do it myself, but had the chance with the 2 of them I liked. YMMV.
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As of Jan 2006

Here is an overview of the massage parlors I saw during my 5 nights in Monterrey. Overall, the quality of chicas in the clubs tends to be far superior, but if you look hard enough you can find some MP gems for very little money. Of course the girls change often, so the addresses may be of more value than my experiences with seeing the various chicas.

Everyplace includes a shower/sink, a padded massage table, a clean sheet and 1-2 towels. Standard offering is for 1/2 hr including CBJ and 3 positions. No massage is offered! Some have more as noted below:

Scarlet - Av Colon #1715A Pte / Blue neon across from Holiday Inn
A rather tough looking place. 3 gordas huddled under a blanket. No heat?
100 pesos. I only looked.

Fascination - Zaragoza #1165 Ote near Colon
Quoted 170 pesos 1/2 hr. 2 gordas. I passed.

Shakira - 1508 Reforma Pte near Holiday Inn / neon lights near KanKun
Very basic MP. 150p 1/2 hr. 3 girls. I took Ana - a 36 yo woman - probably older. Not a looker, but very good service. She seemed very real, with a big smile and good attitude. CBJ + 2 positions + finish in mouth-covered. OK.

Milenio 2000 - Villagran #613 Pte near Givenchy.
Basic MP, but with 7 rooms and 10-12 chicas to choose from. When you enter, you see the girls sitting along a mirrored make-up table, sort of like back stage at a theater. 150p 1/2 hr, but up-selling to 250p. The girls were reasonably attractive with many to choose from. Took Andrea 28, who promised a slow, unrushed experience, but did not deliver on her promise. Upselling for taking off top and extra position. Paid 250 total. Still not terrible for what I received. CBJ + 3 positions. Finished CBJ w/ ball-licking. Just OK.

Status I - Padre Mier #836 Pte
Another basic MP. I was expecting more here, but didn't see any really attractive girls. 7 available. 200 pesos for 1/2 hr. It was afternoon and I didn't partake.

Faraonas I - Arteaga #2018 Pte, west of Holiday Inn.
Off the beaten track, near Prestige Club. 180p 1/2 hr. Stopped in twice, but each time all girls (2?) were busy. Never saw a chica. Good sign??

Duality - Arteaga #716 Pte
2 huge girls offered service for just 100p. This is the only estetica I saw that had barber chairs in the front room. Closes at 10pm. I passed.

Playboy3 (Massage,B ano y Mas) - Arteaga #1015 Pte around the corner from Faraonas II.
Several girls available (3?) for 130p 1/2 hr. Took Samatha 24. Not bad looking, but no personality, no smile. Didn't take her top off. I asked for CBJ only and she tried to up-sell to 200p. I refused and told her to get on top. She then agreed to finish via CBJCIM for the 130p. Bad attitude.

My best experiences were at these two.

Faraonas II - Juan Alverez near Arteaga/ only several blocks fr Matehuala.
Very basic MP, but with 2 young, attractive chicas. Another working. Took Fatima 20 as described in a previous post. Excellent service. Cute little girl. 160 pesos. Great time.

Euforia - Escobedo #721 near Carlos Salazar
Another basic MP but the Senora handling the door (Adriana-40?) and the two cute, very young-looking chicas were a ton of fun. Lots of playful joking around by all. Tried to take the Senora, but she wasn't on the menu. Had Dulce (Monseratt) 23 who provided excellent service. The room has a large mirror and this girl loves to watch herself sucking and fucking. Gives good "face" and eye contact. A naughty girl. CBJ + 3 positions. 200 pesos. My best experience.

Here are several others that were "different" and might be of interest:

Spa-cio - Carlos Salazar #924 / upstairs
This is a new place and supposedly a new concept. It is a semi-Sports bar with drinks and TVs along with a spa, with steam room and jacuzzi. New rooms looked nice. A cut above the other places. Only 180p to 280p, depending on the service (steam or jacuzzi or basic room)

Romanos - Tapia #862 corner Arista
This place advertises "fresitas 18-21". I saw 2 young attractive girls there, but they were both going to rooms with customers. Plus there were 2 other guys ahead of me. Price 400p 1/2 hr or 800p for some other (hour?) deal. I did not stay, but it would be worth a look even at the higher price.

Misses - Tapia #654 Pte near Rayon / 2nd floor of a house/ No sign
This place advertises "realmente fresitas y super-modelos. It is upstairs in a 4-plex house with only a tiny sign on the door. Would never know it from street level. They had 4 chicas. A blond model-type (near 30?) that I immediately wanted and 3 very young-looking, slender girls (teenagers?). I saw a room that had a king-size bed and full bath. I was quoted 300p for a massage and I quickly asked for the blond. BUT . . . I quickly realized it was 300p for massage only. Full service was 2000 pesos!! I started to leave, but the guy running the place tried to talk me into staying. Wanted to know how I found the place. He offered me a 1000p price (I think . . .) but I only had about 800 with me. Decided to leave, but I liked the eye candy. Nice merchandise. High price.

Enough for now. This should be a good start for anyone looking for an estetica experience. The upside is that you can lay down and actually talk and see the girls. Also towels and showers for clean-up. And it winds up being significantly cheaper and more comfortable than privado sex at a club. Downside? You need to look hard to find the gems. 70% of the girls are 2nd and 3rd tier. Some are extremely unattractive. Very hit and miss.
Luego - Prokofiev

[Member #3453]

Has the line-up at Givenchy normalized since they opened the new facility immediately North of El Infinito? I am just wondering if they're bringing girls over there still from El Infinito to bolster the line-up, or if the relative mediocre line-up is back to normal at Givenchy.

[Member #3453]

Carlos,

Has the quality of the buffet at the Obsession improved as of late? How about the lineups at each? Getting psyched up for my trip on Sunday.

[Member #3453]

Psychman,

Monterrey can not compare to Asia, not with respect to price, not with respect to general attitude, and not with respect to availability. But, I prefer Mexican girls to Asian girls, so I enjoy MTY. However, with significant experience on the ground, Monterrey can yield the Asian GFE experience, but it requires a lot of time, significant prior investment, and significant disappointment sprinkled into the mix. That's not a criticism of Monterrey, but they are really two very different venues, and virtually uncomparable, each having it's own brand of charm.

San Jose is cheaper. In comparison, generally speaking, you will receive about 2 hours of hotel action for about twice the typical cost of todo la noche in San Jose. Salidas for strip club girls vary according to the club you're visiting. The lower end clubs will run you about 1350-1500 pesos for 1.5-2 hours back at your hotel.

The medium and high end clubs will run an additional 40%-60%, and up to 300% more, respectively, compared to the low end clubs. If you're looking for todo la noche action in Monterrey, it is almost non-existent, certainly so in comparison to what is regularly available in San Jose. Todo La Noche can be had, but it will typically cost a lot, and the girls of MTY do not generally seem available for that kind of experience. Todo La Noche is not common.

Your selection with respect to strip club girls in MTY, versus a Blue Marlin type setup, will exceed what you generally find at the Blue Marlin, or any of the strip clubs in San Jose. In that respect, I have always thought that Monterrey was superior, even in comparison to the shear numbers of strip clubs in comparison. In comparison to strip clubs in San Jose, ones like Josephines, probably one of the highest quality in San Jose, the lower end El Infinito in Monterrey is superior with respect to selection. If you choose to visit the strip clubs in MTY they are primarily located downtown.

Take a taxi to the area of the strip club Gaunlet, Villagran between Carlos Salizar and Isaac Garza, and South on Villagran. Many of the strip clubs are located about 3-4 blocks South of Madero on Villagran. They are not comfortable clubs. They are uncomfortable clubs, straight back chairs, dingy facilities, dirty cubicles, etc...but the quality of your experience there is very economical for what you get, quality of girls, cheap drinks, cheap table dances in the privados (50 pesos), cheap BJ, and relatively cheap full service, etc...

A full range of services is available on-site, and cost for full service will be approximately 200 pesos for a BJ, 400 pesos for full service. In addition, time is predicated on the playing of 4 minute songs, which will cost you 50 pesos each. So, the longer you take to pop, the more it costs. I estimate the typical cost of a full service session to run around 500-700 pesos in the privados for full service when you factor in a song for every four minutes you are in the privados...depends a lot on you.

Basically, these are the lower end clubs, all located within walking distance of each other, probably none of them more than 5 minutes apart on foot, and some of them across the street from one another or relatively next door to one another. They are clubs that have some good quality girls, some better than others of course.

I would rate them accordingly:
El Infinito (far and away my favorite)
Matehuala
El Cielo
Tangalay
Givenchy
Parthenon

Matehuela is within walking distance of El Infinito, probably 5-8 minutes, at Madero and Juan Alverez, one block West of Villagran if you walk North from El Infinito to Madero.

El Cielo is located at Arteaga two blocks East of Vilagran, so it's within easy walking distance of El Infinito as well, 3-4 minutes.

Medium priced clubs are going to run you probably about 40% more than the lower end clubs for on-site services.

Here are the medium priced clubs, listed according to my preference, ones that are all located within close proximity to one another, and within walking distance of one another:
El Harem, 1400 block of Madero
Pasarelas, 900 block of Madero.
THche, 1800 block of Madero
Excalibur, 1000 Block of Madero

I would also recommend Casino, which is the other direction and not within walking distance of the cluster of medium level clubs mentioned above. Casino's address is Madero Ave or Colon Ave. at Capt. Aguilar. It is in the same category, perhaps just slightly under the quality of El Harem, IMHO. But according to Carlos, Casino is above Harem' category. Per Carlos, "I know it doesn't look like it, but it is. Remember, same owners, prices are higher there so they consider it better (just like Prestige and Obsession)."

Bahamas is also in the category of the medium level clubs, and it is located on Guerrero, North of Madero. Per Carlos, "Bahamas (North of Obsession on Guerrero Ave. is lower than Casino and Harem (all under the same ownership)."

High End Clubs will run you anywhere from probably about 100% to 300% more than the lower end clubs for on-site full service, 300% being the more common circumstance, especially for Gringos.

The high end strip clubs are as follows:
Obsession, on Guerrero North of Colon
Prestige, Prestige, Madero Ave y Veinte de Noviembre (If your getting in on taxi you enter on Madero Ave )
Poisson, Zaragoza and Aramberri
Amnesia, Amnesia, Simon Bolivar (every taxi driver knows the address).
Premier, Premier, 700 Block of Ruiz Cortines

Most of the taxi drivers will know the locations of these high end clubs because they get commissions if they bring you to one of them. So, be expecting to pay through the nose if you choose to visit them, or hop out when you get in relative close proximity and walk to them. They are very comfortable, plush, great line-ups of girls, usually having girls with exceptional personalities that are capable of persuading you to part with as much money as possible. The girls have their proven track records to defend with management, and they are aggressive, in sometimes very subtle ways, at doing so.

The medium level clubs are comfortable too, the girls can sometimes be just as hot, and the prices are significantly less. So, I am rarely, if ever, found in the high end clubs of MTY. I usually split half my time between the medium level clubs and the low end clubs. I reserve salidas primarily for the low end clubs, and drinking and socializing for the medium level clubs.

I don't frequent the high end clubs for anything other than the 60 pesos lunch buffets in the afternoons at Prestige and Obsession. I've found better options in the medium and low end clubs.

But, that having been said, some guys like the comfort of the high end clubs, and their quality is generally quite good, so if you have the money, and you want to blow it, have at it. I doubt anyone goes away from the high end clubs disasspointed, except to realize they have blown a huge wad of dough afterward. But, for visiting Gringos that have no Spanish speaking abilities, guys that want to be pampered, guys that don't care what the cost is because they are there to have a great time regardless of cost, guys that like the comfort of a "USA" style high end plush strip clubs, then the high end clubs of Monterrey will not disappoint you. Just bring your wallet, and several credit cards

There really is no venue in Monterrey that I am aware of that compares to the Blue Marlin for example.

Well, maybe the brothels of MTY, Maxims, Divain, Carmelas? But in that instance, the girls are employees of the establishment, not freelancers, and cost, range of quality, and numbers of girls available do not compare to the Blue Marlin.

Carlos has more information on the brothels than I do, but I don't believe he even frequents them anymore these days. They are just too expensive for what you get, like 1800-2200 pesos for 1 hour?

So, in MTY, you will have a choice of strip club girls, numerous massage parlors of widely varying quality, the brothels, and a few street girls hanging outside of hotels in the area of Pino Suarez and Reforma streets. There are very few, if any, streetwalkers. The MTY police are quite aggressive in that area. You may see some that appear to be standing on corners here and there, but beware...they are usually "chicks with dicks," and those that are legitimate street walkers are a bad bet.

Prokofiev can probably fill you in on the massage parlor scene. His assessments seem well informed and I believe they are also relatively recent. Of course, the main source for logistics with respect to Massage Parlors is, as Carlos indicated, El Sol newspaper. It is only published certain days of the week, so it's sometimes hard to find at a moment's notice.

I hope this information is helpful. Have fun...

Gentelmen,

As a many time vet of Costa Rica and other places south, I am not at all a newby to our hobby. On my other board, when newbies ask for general information, I am on board with asking them to read. Yet, I have read ten pages here and am mostly finding back and fourth grips between memmbers. No probem with me, but could anyone PM me or post some basic, organized info for me, or lead me to it? I will soon be in Montery. I speak excellent , and am very accostomed to low to mid end joints, and am a skilled negotiator for what I enjoy.

1) The low down on Mps?

2) Part timer clubs?

3) Local trip clubs and low end places?

4) The general P4P scene,and how it compares to other Latin American cities?

I am most thankful.

[MonterreyDude]

And we are here to help you Psychman.
I've sent you a PM.
But am answering the questions here too:

1) The low down on Mps?
I don't do MPs but I can help you out. The moment you step in Monterrey, buy the afternoon paper El Sol. It has tons of MPs starting from those that will charge you 100 pesos for quickie to the finest that will squeeze your wallet of 2000 pesos. Remember that MPs here are not underground, it's in the open.
2) Part timer clubs?
Part timer clubs as in what? Don't get the question.
3) Local trip clubs and low end places?
I don't get "trip clubs" and low end... how low are we talking here?
4) The general P4P scene,and how it compares to other Latin American cities?
For that comparison you need to PM Unspongebob. He's favorite city is Monterrey, but he's been to Costa Rica and SEA too. He'll be most helpful there.

Gentelmen,

As a many time vet of Costa Rica and other places south, I am not at all a newby to our hobby. On my other board, when newbies ask for general information, I am on board with asking them to read. Yet, I have read ten pages here and am mostly finding back and fourth grips between memmbers. No probem with me, but could anyone PM me or post some basic, organized info for me, or lead me to it? I will soon be in Montery. I speak excellent , and am very accostomed to low to mid end joints, and am a skilled negotiator for what I enjoy.

1) The low down on Mps?

2) Part timer clubs?

3) Local trip clubs and low end places?

4) The general P4P scene,and how it compares to other Latin American cities?

I am most thankful.

[MonterreyDude]

Mickey, sorry to tell you but walking distance from the CP there are no straight massage parlors and specially after 10 pm, you'll find none.

Hi guys, I'm in Monterrey now - I will have here only one more night I'd like to spend on some nice massage.

I'm looking for any massage salon accesible after 10pm (I don't have any time before) and located in walking distance from Crowne Plaza hotel.

As you can see it's realy urgent for me so could you pleease give me some adressess with description how to get there?

I'd be grateful for your help

[Mickeyyy]

Hi guys, I'm in Monterrey now - I will have here only one more night I'd like to spend on some nice massage.

I'm looking for any massage salon accesible after 10pm (I don't have any time before) and located in walking distance from Crowne Plaza hotel.

As you can see it's realy urgent for me so could you pleease give me some adressess with description how to get there?

I'd be grateful for your help

[Psychman]

Gentelmen,

As a many time vet of Costa Rica and other places south, I am not at all a newby to our hobby. On my other board, when newbies ask for general information, I am on board with asking them to read. Yet, I have read ten pages here and am mostly finding back and fourth grips between memmbers. No probem with me, but could anyone PM me or post some basic, organized info for me, or lead me to it? I will soon be in Montery. I speak excellent , and am very accostomed to low to mid end joints, and am a skilled negotiator for what I enjoy.

1) The low down on Mps?

2) Part timer clubs?

3) Local trip clubs and low end places?

4) The general P4P scene,and how it compares to other Latin American cities?

I am most thankful.

[MonterreyDude]

Cinema Versalles... well, to be honest, I do now thanks to you.
I never set foot in those places.
I only hear or read the urban legends.

OK Carlos,

I promised to retire and I will keep my word. I'm clearly running out of material. But you know the part about Cinema Versailles is dead on, right? Or am I wrong?

-P

[Prokofiev]

OK Carlos,

I promised to retire and I will keep my word. I'm clearly running out of material. But you know the part about Cinema Versailles is dead on, right? Or am I wrong?

-P

[MonterreyDude]

proko, your story went like the matrix trilogy.
the first part was incredible,
the second, long awaited, flashy but something didn't sound right.
the third, dissapointing. not on the level of the first 2. forced narrative, disjointed, the writer knows the source by heart but sold his soul to the devil instead of being loyal to originality, and literaly suddenly it just cuts to the chase and left us not gasping for air, but searching for the proverbial answer to the question "what the hell was that all about???"
another example of how the american culture of entertainment is engrained in your dna... always reach for the formula to get to the masses.

ps: there always has to be a critic that spoils everything. but not to worry, box office sales will be through the roof.

this is the end . . . i promise, no mas. carlos as taxi driver? no, i envision something larger in your future. it's meant as fun. enjoy -p


carlitos pulled the huge, red, white and blue, double-decker tour bus up to the club entrance. painted in large letters on each side was: “gringo express”.

“estamos aqui, senores!” he yelled as he opened the door and the large monger group began to disembark. first off were the drunken shriners - each with a free-drink coupon, their fez hats perched precariously at various angles as they wobbled towards the el infinito security checkpoint. i stayed behind. i had a plan. i knew it was dangerous, but that’s how i live. danger is my middle name! i had hoped my buddy, g-man would watch my back. but it was too late. i saw the blank, zombie-like stare in his eyes as he idly peeled off bills from his wad of 500 peso notes with a rubber-band around it. he was a goner.

as the japanese business men in front of me were removing their rolex’s for the bouncers, i saw my chance. i ran for it . . .

“no! he’s getting away!”, cried carlos and the bouncers took off after me. they were fast. but i was faster. i could feel their hot breath on the back of my neck as i tore down the street. cell phones were dialed. security from givenchy, el cielo and tanga-lay joined the chase. guys on bikes. guys with motorcycles. the guys from the taco stands! cars. dogs. i even heard a helicopter overhead. but still i didn’t stop. i thought about going to the massage parlor from last night.

“surely, my girls can help me. they can protect me. i still have my cookies.”, i thought.

but no. what could 4 burley women on a sugar-jag do against so many armed and dangerous men? there was one and only one place in all of monterrey where i would be safe. but could i make it? i had to try.

i turned down villagran. they were gaining on me. finally, after what seemed like an eternity, i arrived at the versailles cinema. i bounded into the lobby and threw my last 100 peso bill at the 2 old men playing cards by the door. i entered the pitch-black, gay movie palace and knew i had made it! the crowd of macho bouncers and security men stopped dead in their tracks outside the theater. for the macho mexican male, the versailles was like kryptonite to superman. they dare not enter! a line of monterrey’s most feared and dangerous trannies blocked the doorway. and these girls can really scratch!

i ran through the dark interior, not even stopping to check-out the film. out though the back door . . . and i was free, finally free from the tyranny of club life! i felt so liberated! so alive!

as i strolled happily through the back streets of the city, i checked my stash. i still had a crisp, us $100 bill and a full bag of my delicious cookies. i had it made. i was on a mission. nothing could stop me now.
the night was cold and dark. i strained to read house addresses in the gloom.

“650 . . . 652 . . . 654. here it is. tapia #654! the address of misses. the holy grail of mps.”

it looked like a fairly normal residence. no sign to indicate anything different. i hesitantly walked through the garage-like entrance and up a flight of stairs. was this the right place? or just someone’s house? then i saw it. a small sign next to the door bell. i read it in abject horror . . .

misses
dos mil pesos
solo en efectivo
no galletas

[Prokofiev]

this is the end . . . i promise, no mas. carlos as taxi driver? no, i envision something larger in your future. it's meant as fun. enjoy -p


carlitos pulled the huge, red, white and blue, double-decker tour bus up to the club entrance. painted in large letters on each side was: “gringo express”.

“estamos aqui, senores!” he yelled as he opened the door and the large monger group began to disembark. first off were the drunken shriners - each with a free-drink coupon, their fez hats perched precariously at various angles as they wobbled towards the el infinito security checkpoint. i stayed behind. i had a plan. i knew it was dangerous, but that’s how i live. danger is my middle name! i had hoped my buddy, g-man would watch my back. but it was too late. i saw the blank, zombie-like stare in his eyes as he idly peeled off bills from his wad of 500 peso notes with a rubber-band around it. he was a goner.

as the japanese business men in front of me were removing their rolex’s for the bouncers, i saw my chance. i ran for it . . .

“no! he’s getting away!”, cried carlos and the bouncers took off after me. they were fast. but i was faster. i could feel their hot breath on the back of my neck as i tore down the street. cell phones were dialed. security from givenchy, el cielo and tanga-lay joined the chase. guys on bikes. guys with motorcycles. the guys from the taco stands! cars. dogs. i even heard a helicopter overhead. but still i didn’t stop. i thought about going to the massage parlor from last night.

“surely, my girls can help me. they can protect me. i still have my cookies.”, i thought.

but no. what could 4 burley women on a sugar-jag do against so many armed and dangerous men? there was one and only one place in all of monterrey where i would be safe. but could i make it? i had to try.

i turned down villagran. they were gaining on me. finally, after what seemed like an eternity, i arrived at the versailles cinema. i bounded into the lobby and threw my last 100 peso bill at the 2 old men playing cards by the door. i entered the pitch-black, gay movie palace and knew i had made it! the crowd of macho bouncers and security men stopped dead in their tracks outside the theater. for the macho mexican male, the versailles was like kryptonite to superman. they dare not enter! a line of monterrey’s most feared and dangerous trannies blocked the doorway. and these girls can really scratch!

i ran through the dark interior, not even stopping to check-out the film. out though the back door . . . and i was free, finally free from the tyranny of club life! i felt so liberated! so alive!

as i strolled happily through the back streets of the city, i checked my stash. i still had a crisp, us $100 bill and a full bag of my delicious cookies. i had it made. i was on a mission. nothing could stop me now.
the night was cold and dark. i strained to read house addresses in the gloom.

“650 . . . 652 . . . 654. here it is. tapia #654! the address of misses. the holy grail of mps.”

it looked like a fairly normal residence. no sign to indicate anything different. i hesitantly walked through the garage-like entrance and up a flight of stairs. was this the right place? or just someone’s house? then i saw it. a small sign next to the door bell. i read it in abject horror . . .

misses
dos mil pesos
solo en efectivo
no galletas

[Member #3453]

Actually, this is not called a taste of your own medicine. This is called "Plagiarism." I knew I should have submitted it to the US Copywrite Department. Maybe I will do that, but then I can't really reach him in Morelia unless I send DOG the bounty hunter down there to bring him back alive :-) SHIT, the safe zone between Mexico and the US rares it's ugly head, but in reverse.

And to think I would have actually read his report had I not quickly first realized that MJ discoverd how to use the cut and past button early on in his esay. Much of what was posted eminates from my own postings, word for word, almost five years ago. I would have at least expected him to have the creativity that Prok displayed.

And, as you pointed out, most of the supposed "valuable information" in some spots, in spots where he used his own imagination as to what MTY is really like, such as the reference to Infinito being a "high end" club, is not accurate, not even with respect to logistics. That's really helpful to the newbies coming to MTY that we are all so concerned about "helping."

Frankly, I am fine with Prok's pokes at fun. I think his postings were made with sincerity, in fun, and in a conciliatory spirit. But, in this instance, it merely fuels the fire. I will have to contemplate my future writings when I finallly get into Monterrey. For now, I haven't any decent material to submit from the Wasteland. Let the games begin!!! But, unfortunately, since I am on MJ's "doube secret probabation" he can not read my challenges. But, somehow...I don't know...I kind of have this feeling that he reads every word.

Peace :-)

For heaven's sake... One USb is enough :-) now two?

Is this what they call a taste of your own medicine?

Mill - the "I" place aint got no couches. They got chairs with wrinkled cushions that'll make your ass sore. And neither do the girls go to the backroom. Their dressing rooms are upstairs.

And to think that I actually read the entire post. What was I thinking?

Welcome back Mill. I always loved your posts. Although your comments were funnier. I would rather see you make sarcastic remarks and call us names than this. Your comments have always been cool.

Hey USb, you know I love you man.

Carlos, here's a challenge for you: Get Mill, Proko and USb to come down together and I will come down for a final trip. I want to hang out with these two guys. I think we'll have the craziest time of our lives. I'll even bring Mr. "L" to seal the deal. You will have your hands full.

Want better incentives? I'll book and pay for Mill & Proko's room (1 room) at the PDA for the weekend. This is in addition to another room for you, Carlos, for 1 night to salida a special someone.

But wait; if you call now, I'll even have a group of the Infinito girls to come out with us to a dance club on Friday and/or Saturday night to make sure we get blasted. Be ready for one hell of a night.

Wasted

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There exists a profound cultural difference between, specifically, the girls of Mexico, not to mention Asia, South America, and Central America versus the US. I think the cultural differences are profound, and across the board. For example...

US girls identify with what they perceive will isolate them from even the next closest generation. Sociologically, I do not sense a desire by the girls of Mexico, or the other venues, to isolate themselve from the other generations to nearly the same degree.

That is why we have such a superior potential for ultimate satisfaction in Mexico, and the other venues, versus the US. Money is not the determining factor because the girls of the other venues are earning the same as the girls in the US, or much more, in comparison to the norm in their other respective economies. It is entirely a cultural difference that determines superior performance and not money.

I used to travel a lot to the USA during the 90's.
Went to the Los Angeles, Ca area for business at least once a month (sometimes up to 4 times a month) and 4 times a year to NYC
Always stayed at the BH Four Seasons at Doheny and Burton Way... and always expected nothing in the sense of action at that place, although the bar at the FS was hot, but action that went way over my head (it is still hot, I still go there every each other year).
The only time I got action was once and that's it.
I was seating at the bar nursing a tequila shot with a beer chaser, talking nonsense with a couple of guys and a hot shot gal from Oregon or Washington State (don't remember)... talk goes on and on and we start paying rounds, making fun of the Valley Girls that go to the FS, see if they get picked up by an exec of who-knows what company, etc, etc.
Well the Oregon/Washington gal suddenly leans over one of the guys and says: "wanna a quickie???"... well cornered that way I say yes. The guy he went over winks at me and says "lucky bastard... thought she had the hots for me".
Asides from a brief act of stupidity on the part of the FS security team that blocked our way on my room floor (which she took care of going ballistic telling them that if they thought she was a f****ing hooker and that she was also a guest there), I had my quickie.
After finishing and pay attention boys, she says "I knew you were and oral sex guy" (OK, I confess, tongue gave me out), mounts me, and on top of me cums again for a 2nd time... and she ends her orgasm asking me "OK, do I pay the next round or is it one of the guys at the bar????"
This, guys, is one of the COLDEST things I ever felt.
She was using me as a dildo (not the first time, though, had it with other girls too) and she just didn't care what ever my feelings were... you know, just like a regular cold hearted US SW.
Thought cross my mind: I never looked for it in the USA cause I knew it would be cold and impersonal... now I had my comfirmation.
Never looked for it again....
Though I was corraled by a lady psychiatrist at an elevator in San Francisco in December of 99... caught the flu in Frisco and I only wanted to go to bed.
You should have seen the look on her face.... mine too, she was a nice 40 year old doctor and she had the "look".
It was not to be.....

[MonterreyDude]

I used to travel a lot to the USA during the 90's.
Went to the Los Angeles, Ca area for business at least once a month (sometimes up to 4 times a month) and 4 times a year to NYC
Always stayed at the BH Four Seasons at Doheny and Burton Way... and always expected nothing in the sense of action at that place, although the bar at the FS was hot, but action that went way over my head (it is still hot, I still go there every each other year).
The only time I got action was once and that's it.
I was seating at the bar nursing a tequila shot with a beer chaser, talking nonsense with a couple of guys and a hot shot gal from Oregon or Washington State (don't remember)... talk goes on and on and we start paying rounds, making fun of the Valley Girls that go to the FS, see if they get picked up by an exec of who-knows what company, etc, etc.
Well the Oregon/Washington gal suddenly leans over one of the guys and says: "wanna a quickie???"... well cornered that way I say yes. The guy he went over winks at me and says "lucky bastard... thought she had the hots for me".
Asides from a brief act of stupidity on the part of the FS security team that blocked our way on my room floor (which she took care of going ballistic telling them that if they thought she was a f****ing hooker and that she was also a guest there), I had my quickie.
After finishing and pay attention boys, she says "I knew you were and oral sex guy" (OK, I confess, tongue gave me out), mounts me, and on top of me cums again for a 2nd time... and she ends her orgasm asking me "OK, do I pay the next round or is it one of the guys at the bar????"
This, guys, is one of the COLDEST things I ever felt.
She was using me as a dildo (not the first time, though, had it with other girls too) and she just didn't care what ever my feelings were... you know, just like a regular cold hearted US SW.
Thought cross my mind: I never looked for it in the USA cause I knew it would be cold and impersonal... now I had my comfirmation.
Never looked for it again....
Though I was corraled by a lady psychiatrist at an elevator in San Francisco in December of 99... caught the flu in Frisco and I only wanted to go to bed.
You should have seen the look on her face.... mine too, she was a nice 40 year old doctor and she had the "look".
It was not to be.....

On the US side, yes, I was invited and I was very careful paying attention to everything while enjoying all at the same time. At no point did I leave my self open to any possibilities whatsoever. Although I was in the company of pros, I made sure, just in case, I could always bail. Trust me, I know.

On the MTY side, I always made friends with the locals as well. You know how social I am. On the other hand, I still make it clear that those girls are with me and they are not to be messed around with. I am as possessive as any other man, if not more. There was one time that one of the girls was talking to a male dancer, a big muscle man. I stepped in and he apologized and started to walk away. Keep in mind that the girl, X, is the one who start the conversation. But then I pulled him back and gave him permission to talk. Then laughed it off saying I was just joking.

Maybe not being a blond-haired blue-eyed white man helps a little. Many assume I am a local as well. In all the times I've been to those places, I have not seen anything threatening. I felt extremely comfortable and totally enjoyed myself.

Still, I always keep my eyes open … Until I get Wasted.

Wasted