Monterrey

[MonterreyDude]

Naw... the more you write, the less I believe you.

CB says "I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter. "

Monterreydude says: If you have the monopoly of Universal Knowledge, you would know that half of the info referenced here is shown in public and the rest via PMs to the respective mongers that need it.

CB says: "didn't find one really useful mongering report"
MD says: You really don't have a live brain cell within you. Since Iam local, I know that a "mongering report" is useless after a couple of days. Specially with girl migration around the clubs. Being local I know that they move from place to place faster than you can even imagine. Being a local I know also that club policies change on a day by day basis. Being local, I know that escorts operate in the same way.

CB says: If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

MD says: Really??? How about the mayority of the mongers that comes here for only 2 nights and leave and never return... enlighten us what they can do under those circumstances.

CB says: The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

MD says: All your falacy is stuck with just this one paragrah. To establish a core of girls takes MONEY, tons of it. Even if they are escorts, club girls, MP girls, you need to drop a a LOT of money for them to start paying serious attention to you. And that is just "starting to notice you".
And I love this part "quickly"... tel that to the mongers that are here for only one day.

CB says: Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing.

MD says: Can you tell me, how big if this "group of girl"??? You must be dropping more money than any of us can imagine.

CB: By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey.
It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel.

MD says: I don't get it. "I have an apartment now". How can you vouch for hotels being GF??? If you've been here, you should know that Monterrey has tens of hotels where mongers stay all over the city.
Have you been to ALL these hotels: Intercontinental, Camino Real, Safi Valle, Ibis, Wyndham, Sheraton Ambssador, Sheraton Four Points, Quinta Real, Radisson Ancira, the HoJo, Safi Centro, Fiesta Inn Centro, Fiesta Inn Fidel Velazquez, Hampton Inn Galerias, Hamtpon Inn Aeropuerto, Hampton Inn San Nicolas?????
I really mean it.. ALL HOTELS?????

CB says: Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

MD says: Locally owned hotels? Can we get the names of said "locally owned" hotels in Monterrey? Again, after reading that you have an apartment and you only stay in locally owned hotels... how can we trust your word that ALL hotels af girl friendly???
By the way, let me help you out. Safi hotels are localy owned, they have a 4 star and a grand tourism at the Colonia del Valle district AND offer internet acces AND do not allow any visitors to their rooms.

CB says: Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and C to me

MD: Oh boy!!! Such a liar. Has any monger seen the instance of ho A recomending ho B so the customer can spend his money on B instead of on A???? Not to mention add ho C to the equation??

CB says; "If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent."

MD says: If someone's here for a short time... they won't have the time, nor time enough to hit the high en MP's. They are here for work, remember? They don't have an apartment to bring the girls home. If they are here for mongering and the monger asks me about the high end MPs, I will gladly point out to him Versace, Misses, Regias, Romanos, though I recomend Extravaganza as a good option.

.......... and the coup de gras (this is the good one)

CB says: I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve.

MD says: My, you have the market cornered. At least 20 girls in your pocket. Like I said, you must be Howard Hughes, cause it takes a LOT OF MONEY, not to mention time, tons and tons of available time to have, let us not say 20, nor 10... 5 girls in your pocket.

Naw.... the more I read, the less I believe.

I can assure you that I have no desire to get to know you two nor do I have any desire to read your self-important pap. When I first found this site and signed up, I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter.

All the useful info came from others. Someone shouldn't have to meet with you personally to get info. That defeats the whole purpose of an online forum. Don't you guys see that?

Monterreydude, I was poking fun at you and your persistent denial of any dangers in Monterrey, not at the damages and tragedies caused by the hurricane. So, spare me the self-righteous act. What you're doing is the same as what you accuse me of: Downplaying a real danger just to push forward a personal agenda.

Anyway, here's the deal:

If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing. By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey. It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel. Maybe I'm the exception rather than the rule, but you will only get hassled if you want to stay at the chain hotels or American imports. Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and C to me. I never go to the strip clubs anymore and I wouldn't even consider visiting those clip joints unless my private stash completely ran dry. I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve. It took me a few months to get there and I had to spend some money, but now things are cheap and easy for me. And, best of all, no semen-stained walls and disease-infested toilets. And no rubbing elbows with cartel thugs.

If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent. As for specifics, I'll leave it to you to do a search through this forum. I want you to see for yourself how muddled Monterreydude and Unspongebob have made the board for all those looking for info other than stuff about El Infinito. The fact of the matter is that I rarely even go to MPs anymore, either. I just dip into my stash. Misses is king IMO and it's in a nice neighborhood with plenty of taxi service available. You can take money out from the Banamex ATM about a half block down, just so you're not walking around with a couple of grand in your wallet.

Again, tastes vary, but I always preferred a relaxed, safe, clean atmosphere where you could actually talk to the girls.

Now, I'll just sit back and wait to be shouted down and attacked again for daring to have a differing opinion.

[Chester Boy]

We already heard all this stuff. Lets define the disagreement. The disagreement isn't that there is no danger in Monterrey.

The disagreement is that the danger has not exhibited itself in the clubs, and that you can, if you just follow some basic safety procedures, no different than any major mongering city with a high crime problem, be statistically safe in coming to Monterrey.

The shear numbers of people in Monterrey compared to the percentage of victims will substantiate that mathematically. But, we merely disagree...so, why are you escalating it, bringing it all up again? You are the one bullying by insisting on bringing up the disagreement again, and it is just that, merely a disagreement.

Tell us something "NEW" that demonstrates that you have any direct knowledge about mongering in Monterrey, and that you're not just a troll with a desire to post inflammatory rhetoric, OK?

And, to insinuate that my posts and opinions are only here to make Monterreydude happy is laughable. Have you not read the extent of our disagreements with one another over countless issues, some concerning mongering style, types of girls, preferences over clubs, politics, mongering strategy, etc...? To suggest we are one in the same individual is even more of a hoot!

Our disagreements are endlessly posted here on ISG for all to read, probably for the rest of eternity. They say that once stuff is posted on the internet, it is there forever. Your making the charge that we are somehow unconditionally harmonious reveals just how mistaken you really are with respect to the relationship between Monterreydude and myself.

We are friends, but we have disagreements in person, and online, quite frequently. But, if for no other reason, it should at least reveal the content of our character that we are not so petty as to allow our disagreements to escalate to the point of being offensive with respect to our postings. And, just because we are friends, doesn't mean that either of us would spare our own personal opinions to placate the other...

Can you not see that we are both too opinionated for that kind of restraint, to preserve our friendship at the cost of not being true to our own opinions?

Frankly, your comments reveal an underlying bias that suggests you have a alternative agenda of some kind, or that you are posting from the perspective of already being a former nemesis, someone with an already established history with us, possibly someone utilizing false screen names to escalate the rhetoric. Or, perhaps your purpose here is more akin to being a troll rather than a legitimate monger.

No matter which of these it is, if any, or none, we are beating a dead horse, verdad? And, of course, we are available to meet with you at any time, just so you will know we are for real. You will at least no longer be able to use that worn out accusation that we are anonymous, especially when so many know us personally, and understand the legitimacy of our connection to Monterrey, and the mongering hobby. Even those that disagree with us do not doubt the validity of that relationship. And, if you are so bold as to actually meet us, and assuming you are not an already well established nemesis with a prior and everlasting agenda, you will find us welcoming you into the fold, agreeing to disagree, but harmoniously standing by our opinions.

I can assure you that I have no desire to get to know you two nor do I have any desire to read your self-important pap. When I first found this site and signed up, I went back and read up on what was going on in my neck of the woods. I went back nearly 30 pages and didn't find one really useful mongering report from either of you, just a lot of small talk and inside banter.

All the useful info came from others. Someone shouldn't have to meet with you personally to get info. That defeats the whole purpose of an online forum. Don't you guys see that?

Monterreydude, I was poking fun at you and your persistent denial of any dangers in Monterrey, not at the damages and tragedies caused by the hurricane. So, spare me the self-righteous act. What you're doing is the same as what you accuse me of: Downplaying a real danger just to push forward a personal agenda.

Anyway, here's the deal:

If you visit often or if you'll be here an extended period of time, you WILL have to risk yourself a bit at the clubs and/or low end MPs. The idea, though, is to quickly establish a core group of girls and work on them to establish a certain level of trust. Escorts are hit and miss. Some are real finds, most are flakes who can't be relied on for "off the clock" appointments.

Once you're in, you'll have access to a group of girls who will be willing to service you at your place of residence or at the hotel of your choosing. By the way, I've never had any problem bringing girls to any hotel I've ever stayed at in Monterrey. It's been reported here that some hotels are not girl-friendly, but that hasn't been the case for me here or in any other Mexican city I've visited. I have my apartment now, but I still prefer to do business in a hotel. Maybe I'm the exception rather than the rule, but you will only get hassled if you want to stay at the chain hotels or American imports. Stay at hotels that are locally owned. You may not get internet access, but you won't get hassled if you bring girls in.

Anyway, establishing connections is the key. I've even had situations where Girl A has recommended Girls B and C to me. I never go to the strip clubs anymore and I wouldn't even consider visiting those clip joints unless my private stash completely ran dry. I now have about 8-10 top flight girls to turn to and about a half dozen more in reserve. It took me a few months to get there and I had to spend some money, but now things are cheap and easy for me. And, best of all, no semen-stained walls and disease-infested toilets. And no rubbing elbows with cartel thugs.

If you're in town for a short time and/or won't be back frequently, do yourself a favor and hit the high-end MPs where you will find gorgeous girls for a price comparable to what you'd spend at the strip clubs while finding someone to take home. Day appointments are a huge plus for me since I enjoy hitting the legit anthros later on for amateur talent. As for specifics, I'll leave it to you to do a search through this forum. I want you to see for yourself how muddled Monterreydude and Unspongebob have made the board for all those looking for info other than stuff about El Infinito. The fact of the matter is that I rarely even go to MPs anymore, either. I just dip into my stash. Misses is king IMO and it's in a nice neighborhood with plenty of taxi service available. You can take money out from the Banamex ATM about a half block down, just so you're not walking around with a couple of grand in your wallet.

Again, tastes vary, but I always preferred a relaxed, safe, clean atmosphere where you could actually talk to the girls.

Now, I'll just sit back and wait to be shouted down and attacked again for daring to have a differing opinion.

[Bbond]

Damn, goddamn. everywhere in Mexico, especially the border areas, have problems right now. You can advise for or against visiting. A visitor may or may not have problems, as it ALWAYS has been. So why waste bandwidth either way. An informed monger is a wise monger, but when advise comes from both directions, what's a guy to think. Go, have fun, and if you get your ass in a sling, that's the way Mexico operates. The drug wars are just that, drug wars, if your not involved chances are you are not a target. Getting caught in a cross fire, shit, that fact can happen in a McDonalds anywhere USA.

Bottom line, tell us, as per what this forum is about, where the chicas are, where to get the best bang for the dollars spent.

The violence, and toll from said violence, can be read in several newspapers.
Enough bickering is enough, and, personally, I have read enough. Let's get back to the theme of the forum.

[MonterreyDude]

God, you really don't even read a single post in this forum.

Read post #92570 (July 3)

Let me help you our cause it seems you don't know how to navigate within a webpage.

And I copy/paste:

Guys, check Youtube.

Key words, Alex - Monterrey.

You'll see how the city fared.

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Keep ranting Chester Boy.
You're more than a disaster than Monterrey is right now.
Your making fun of other people's suffering.

Next thing you know, Monterreydude will be telling you that Hurricane Alex's worst was just a slight drizzle!

My point, regardless of what two anonymous bullies on a mongering message board tell you, is this: Please feel free to post any and all stories that may potentially affect our safety. We'll decide later if they're true or not, but the most important thing is for there to be an atmosphere of feeling comfortable to share information without immediately being shouted down and belittled. This is especially important in an area that is growing increasingly more dangerous. As Monterreydude would have it now: HE'LL be the one to decide what info is shared here. And, I'm sorry buddy, but that doesn't cut it.

And I say "anonymous" because I don't know either of you from Adam and I'd be a damn fool to trust you at face value, especially after your behavior over the last few days and your insistence upon denying, deflecting and shouting down all opposing viewpoints. You guys are the ones with the agenda. Monterreydude wants you to come to select clubs while Unspongebob just wants to make Monterreydude happy.

I don't care if anyone comes to Monterrey or not and I don't care if they go to escorts, MPs, or strip clubs. Why would I care one way or another? I just don't want my fellow hobbyists to accidentally walk into a dangerous situation and meet a tragic end.

Is that so vile and offensive? I have not written a single thing that is untrue, so why the attacks?

* Is Monterrey dangerous at the moment? Yes, especially in any area involving drugs or the cartels.

* Are the thugs growing bolder and more proficient? Yes. Blocking city streets, storming tourist-friendly hotels, attacking law enforcement, etc. No city in the US can be compared to the type of violence that regularly takes place in many parts of Mexico. It's a completely different animal.

* Are the clubs populated with cartel thugs? Yes.

Again, I repeat: What's so vile and offensive about telling people to be aware and offering them an alternate strategy than just blindly walking into places recommended on message boards by anonymous members? I mean, really, for all I know, 3 or 4 of you could all be the same person posting under alternate names. These things happen and it's just as easy to assume that than for Unspongebob to assume that I'm some sort of plant for establishments THAT I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED!

Ok, that's my rant. Now, back to the prevailing logic here: Hurricane Alex? Nothing but a drizzle. After all, it also rains in Chicago!

[Member #3453]

We already heard all this stuff. Lets define the disagreement. The disagreement isn't that there is no danger in Monterrey.

The disagreement is that the danger has not exhibited itself in the clubs, and that you can, if you just follow some basic safety procedures, no different than any major mongering city with a high crime problem, be statistically safe in coming to Monterrey.

The shear numbers of people in Monterrey compared to the percentage of victims will substantiate that mathematically. But, we merely disagree...so, why are you escalating it, bringing it all up again? You are the one bullying by insisting on bringing up the disagreement again, and it is just that, merely a disagreement.

Tell us something "NEW" that demonstrates that you have any direct knowledge about mongering in Monterrey, and that you're not just a troll with a desire to post inflammatory rhetoric, OK?

And, to insinuate that my posts and opinions are only here to make Monterreydude happy is laughable. Have you not read the extent of our disagreements with one another over countless issues, some concerning mongering style, types of girls, preferences over clubs, politics, mongering strategy, etc...? To suggest we are one in the same individual is even more of a hoot!

Our disagreements are endlessly posted here on ISG for all to read, probably for the rest of eternity. They say that once stuff is posted on the internet, it is there forever. Your making the charge that we are somehow unconditionally harmonious reveals just how mistaken you really are with respect to the relationship between Monterreydude and myself.

We are friends, but we have disagreements in person, and online, quite frequently. But, if for no other reason, it should at least reveal the content of our character that we are not so petty as to allow our disagreements to escalate to the point of being offensive with respect to our postings. And, just because we are friends, doesn't mean that either of us would spare our own personal opinions to placate the other...

Can you not see that we are both too opinionated for that kind of restraint, to preserve our friendship at the cost of not being true to our own opinions?

Frankly, your comments reveal an underlying bias that suggests you have a alternative agenda of some kind, or that you are posting from the perspective of already being a former nemesis, someone with an already established history with us, possibly someone utilizing false screen names to escalate the rhetoric. Or, perhaps your purpose here is more akin to being a troll rather than a legitimate monger.

No matter which of these it is, if any, or none, we are beating a dead horse, verdad? And, of course, we are available to meet with you at any time, just so you will know we are for real. You will at least no longer be able to use that worn out accusation that we are anonymous, especially when so many know us personally, and understand the legitimacy of our connection to Monterrey, and the mongering hobby. Even those that disagree with us do not doubt the validity of that relationship. And, if you are so bold as to actually meet us, and assuming you are not an already well established nemesis with a prior and everlasting agenda, you will find us welcoming you into the fold, agreeing to disagree, but harmoniously standing by our opinions.

Next thing you know, Monterreydude will be telling you that Hurricane Alex's worst was just a slight drizzle!

My point, regardless of what two anonymous bullies on a mongering message board tell you, is this: Please feel free to post any and all stories that may potentially affect our safety. We'll decide later if they're true or not, but the most important thing is for there to be an atmosphere of feeling comfortable to share information without immediately being shouted down and belittled. This is especially important in an area that is growing increasingly more dangerous. As Monterreydude would have it now: HE'LL be the one to decide what info is shared here. And, I'm sorry buddy, but that doesn't cut it.

And I say "anonymous" because I don't know either of you from Adam and I'd be a damn fool to trust you at face value, especially after your behavior over the last few days and your insistence upon denying, deflecting and shouting down all opposing viewpoints. You guys are the ones with the agenda. Monterreydude wants you to come to select clubs while Unspongebob just wants to make Monterreydude happy.

I don't care if anyone comes to Monterrey or not and I don't care if they go to escorts, MPs, or strip clubs. Why would I care one way or another? I just don't want my fellow hobbyists to accidentally walk into a dangerous situation and meet a tragic end.

Is that so vile and offensive? I have not written a single thing that is untrue, so why the attacks?

* Is Monterrey dangerous at the moment? Yes, especially in any area involving drugs or the cartels.

* Are the thugs growing bolder and more proficient? Yes. Blocking city streets, storming tourist-friendly hotels, attacking law enforcement, etc. No city in the US can be compared to the type of violence that regularly takes place in many parts of Mexico. It's a completely different animal.

* Are the clubs populated with cartel thugs? Yes.

Again, I repeat: What's so vile and offensive about telling people to be aware and offering them an alternate strategy than just blindly walking into places recommended on message boards by anonymous members? I mean, really, for all I know, 3 or 4 of you could all be the same person posting under alternate names. These things happen and it's just as easy to assume that than for Unspongebob to assume that I'm some sort of plant for establishments THAT I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED!

Ok, that's my rant. Now, back to the prevailing logic here: Hurricane Alex? Nothing but a drizzle. After all, it also rains in Chicago!

[Toold28]

In 1968 I was told by the manager of a motel/-re house in Nuevo Laredo, that a person could go anywhere at any time, day or night, with no problems as long as you showed not fear. And within weeks, my brother and I went anywhere we wanted, by foot and car.

Young and dumb. Some where in learning fearlessness, I lost the preception of danger for many years. It took for me an incident in Terreón Mexico, another in Mexico City, a 3rd in Orange Walk Belize another in Memphis Tennessee, to come to my senses and recognise again that there are dangers in this hobby.

Each and every person has to make their own decision as to danger. I spent 24 years working in topless clubs in Houston. In my eyes there is a little danger in strip clubs anywhere. You must be aware of your surroundings at all times and stay alert.

MonterreyDude, Bbond and Usb have all proved to be trusted and respected. I can honestly say that each of these men would immediately inform us all if they thought that there was any abnormal dangers. Not just in Monterrey but anywhere. They would not let us walk into somewhere to be blindsided.

Certainly there is some danger, but is it so bad and so prevalent as to keep a person from having an enjoyable, restfull get away and staying away?

[Chester Boy]

Next thing you know, Monterreydude will be telling you that Hurricane Alex's worst was just a slight drizzle!

My point, regardless of what two anonymous bullies on a mongering message board tell you, is this: Please feel free to post any and all stories that may potentially affect our safety. We'll decide later if they're true or not, but the most important thing is for there to be an atmosphere of feeling comfortable to share information without immediately being shouted down and belittled. This is especially important in an area that is growing increasingly more dangerous. As Monterreydude would have it now: HE'LL be the one to decide what info is shared here. And, I'm sorry buddy, but that doesn't cut it.

And I say "anonymous" because I don't know either of you from Adam and I'd be a damn fool to trust you at face value, especially after your behavior over the last few days and your insistence upon denying, deflecting and shouting down all opposing viewpoints. You guys are the ones with the agenda. Monterreydude wants you to come to select clubs while Unspongebob just wants to make Monterreydude happy.

I don't care if anyone comes to Monterrey or not and I don't care if they go to escorts, MPs, or strip clubs. Why would I care one way or another? I just don't want my fellow hobbyists to accidentally walk into a dangerous situation and meet a tragic end.

Is that so vile and offensive? I have not written a single thing that is untrue, so why the attacks?

* Is Monterrey dangerous at the moment? Yes, especially in any area involving drugs or the cartels.

* Are the thugs growing bolder and more proficient? Yes. Blocking city streets, storming tourist-friendly hotels, attacking law enforcement, etc. No city in the US can be compared to the type of violence that regularly takes place in many parts of Mexico. It's a completely different animal.

* Are the clubs populated with cartel thugs? Yes.

Again, I repeat: What's so vile and offensive about telling people to be aware and offering them an alternate strategy than just blindly walking into places recommended on message boards by anonymous members? I mean, really, for all I know, 3 or 4 of you could all be the same person posting under alternate names. These things happen and it's just as easy to assume that than for Unspongebob to assume that I'm some sort of plant for establishments THAT I NEVER EVEN MENTIONED!

Ok, that's my rant. Now, back to the prevailing logic here: Hurricane Alex? Nothing but a drizzle. After all, it also rains in Chicago!

[Bbond]

You have to hold the ALT key down for the full sequence. Then, when you let up on the ALT key it prints the single letter. You don't have to go back after pressing the ALT sequence and print the letter, it just does it automatically when you let up on ALT.

Same as with Alt 164 and 165, hold the alt key and type numbers, release alt key and correct ñ or Ñ should appear.

[Member #3453]

Try alt 0209 for Ñ, and alt 0241 for ñ, see if that works correctly.

Ok...trying it now.

Ñ
that was with the ALT + 0209

ñ
that was with the ALT + 0241

You have to hold the ALT key down for the full sequence. Then, when you let up on the ALT key it prints the single letter. You don't have to go back after pressing the ALT sequence and print the letter, it just does it automatically when you let up on ALT.

[Bbond]

But, for some reason it's duplicating the "ñ" like this every time: ñn , and I have to go back and erase the English "n." I'll have to experiment more with it, unless someone knows what I might be doing wrong. I've tried it a number of times using the ALT + 164, and it always comes up this way.

Try alt 0209 for Ñ, and alt 0241 for ñ, see if that works correctly.

[MonterreyDude]

Guys, check Youtube.

Key words, Alex - Monterrey.

You'll see how the city fared.

Hello Tooold28,

I take back everything I said in speculating about you, and about your brother in law, Cuañado1259. I meant no disrespect, and I apologize.

By they way, see above, notice I am using the proper ñ now thanks to Bbond and Dickhead :-).

But, for some reason it's duplicating the "ñ" like this every time: ñn , and I have to go back and erase the English "n." I'll have to experiment more with it, unless someone knows what I might be doing wrong. I've tried it a number of times using the ALT + 164, and it always comes up this way.

Based on the content and sincerity of your post Toold28, I can see you are a stand-up guy. I hope you're doing better these days with respect to the health issues. I would feel privileged to join you if you make it down to Monterrey, as well as the rest of the NL guys.

[Member #3453]

Hello Tooold28,

I take back everything I said in speculating about you, and about your brother in law, Cuañado1259. I meant no disrespect, and I apologize.

By they way, see above, notice I am using the proper ñ now thanks to Bbond and Dickhead :-).

But, for some reason it's duplicating the "ñ" like this every time: ñn , and I have to go back and erase the English "n." I'll have to experiment more with it, unless someone knows what I might be doing wrong. I've tried it a number of times using the ALT + 164, and it always comes up this way.

Based on the content and sincerity of your post Toold28, I can see you are a stand-up guy. I hope you're doing better these days with respect to the health issues. I would feel privileged to join you if you make it down to Monterrey, as well as the rest of the NL guys.

No Monterreydude, I do not hate you. I cheated death with 2 strokes in 3 months a few years back, I no longer know hatred. We may have had our differences but I certainly do not hate you. In fact I put you in the top 8 of the most respected members of the 2 forums I check daily. One day I will make it back to Monterrey and you can show me your Monterrey not what has been shown to me.

Someone else said that I must not be American. Well I was born and lived all my life in Texas.

Cuñado1259 was my brother-in-law. Monterrey is a wonderful city. Almost all of my trips to Monterrey were with or to meet with Cuñado1259. If any of you ever read any post of his, you would know that he could be hard to get along with. To him, money was the answer to everything. So my latest trips there were not always enjoyable. Under different circumstances I could probably enjoy myself. I have not looked for ladies nor even been to a club in Monterrey since 1984. Since then all of the ladies I have met or been with in Monterrey were brought to me by Cuñado1259.

I do read the posts here daily but have nothing pertinant that I could contribute, so I continue to lurk.

Like Bbond I made my first trips to Mexico to the border towns in 1968 and continue to do so. I prefer Nuevo Laredo to all cities I have visited over the years. Nothing really special, just my personal get away spot.

[Member #3453]

The anti-gun activists have their agenda, to represent some guns that have virtually the same outward appearance as Military Weapons, to pass them off as a dangerous category of firearm by calling them "Assault Weapons."

The agenda of the anti-gun movement is to pass off these rifles as essentially the same as fully automatic weapons, when in reality they have virtually the same mechanisms as a hunting rifle, are not automatic weapons, and would be no more effective bullistically than a deer rifle.

The distinction is usually the capacity of the magazine, and not whether they look bad-assed or not. Looks is all that the anti-gun movement focuses on in order to hype their cause to the unsuspecting and uneducated public.

Fully Automatic Weapons are the problem, regardless of their appearance. Fully Automatic Weapons are illegal in the USA unless licensed by ATF. You must have a thorough back ground investigation by the Feds, and you must pay a heavy licensing fee to even own one. Believe me, the fully Automatic Rifles are not coming from law abiding citizens or gun dealers licensed to legally sell them. The Federal Audits are regular and often, and the penalties are severe for the slightest, even minor infraction.

The fully automatic weapons, and the modified legal Assault Weapons, are coming from underworld sources, other countries, etc...and US gun laws are not to blame with respect to Mexico's armed cartel problem.

Fact is, law abiding Mexicans should have the means to protect their own lives. As it is now, they are lambs to the slaughter, brought on by a government that can not even repel the advances of the drug cartels with any meaningful success, not even with their own military class sophisticated weaponry. Had the Mexican army had the capability, this issue with the cartels would have been long over and done with.

Monterreydude...you want to borrow a couple of FA18 Hornets? We can send them down to visit the compounds of the cartels in Mexico, blow up their convoys, wipe them off the face of the earth. Let's teach them a little lesson about what real fire power is. We need to send them a message that they are pissing us off, and we are tired of the BS, and of their terrible treatment of the good people of Mexico.

Well in a way, when people die, a shooting IS a shooting.
And assault weapons ARE used. Not as openly as in Mexico, but gangs use them as the narcs used them here and in the same violent way.
It's just that sometimes the media conveniently forgets to mention that cause they don't want to get in trouble with the NRA.

But it is a fact that assault weopons are used. Simply put they are not as visible or used in an open way as in Mexico.

Example:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BALR1E3LHO.DTL

This is The International Association of Chiefs of Police

http://cbs4.com/topstories/police.as....2.405598.html

This is the NRA thru one of their subsidiaries (1997 op/ed).

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/OpEds/Ar..._to_Police.htm

This is the opposing point of view

http://mediamatters.org/research/200506300004


Media examples of shootings using assault weopens are all over the virtual map.
You can Google it up.


PS: Before my virtual and anonymous friend USB intervenes, I like to point out that I agree with him to the fact that weapons used by felons are not in their hands via a legal way.

[Toold28]

USB, I might have my differences with Toold, but he's a respected veteran monger.

I can vouch for him, even if he hates my guts and my DNA.

No Monterreydude, I do not hate you. I cheated death with 2 strokes in 3 months a few years back, I no longer know hatred. We may have had our differences but I certainly do not hate you. In fact I put you in the top 8 of the most respected members of the 2 forums I check daily. One day I will make it back to Monterrey and you can show me your Monterrey not what has been shown to me.

Someone else said that I must not be American. Well I was born and lived all my life in Texas.

Cuñado1259 was my brother-in-law. Monterrey is a wonderful city. Almost all of my trips to Monterrey were with or to meet with Cuñado1259. If any of you ever read any post of his, you would know that he could be hard to get along with. To him, money was the answer to everything. So my latest trips there were not always enjoyable. Under different circumstances I could probably enjoy myself. I have not looked for ladies nor even been to a club in Monterrey since 1984. Since then all of the ladies I have met or been with in Monterrey were brought to me by Cuñado1259.

I do read the posts here daily but have nothing pertinant that I could contribute, so I continue to lurk.

Like Bbond I made my first trips to Mexico to the border towns in 1968 and continue to do so. I prefer Nuevo Laredo to all cities I have visited over the years. Nothing really special, just my personal get away spot.

[MonterreyDude]

Well in a way, when people die, a shooting IS a shooting.
And assault weapons ARE used. Not as openly as in Mexico, but gangs use them as the narcs used them here and in the same violent way.
It's just that sometimes the media conveniently forgets to mention that cause they don't want to get in trouble with the NRA.

But it is a fact that assault weopons are used. Simply put they are not as visible or used in an open way as in Mexico.

Example:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...BALR1E3LHO.DTL

This is The International Association of Chiefs of Police

http://cbs4.com/topstories/police.as....2.405598.html

This is the NRA thru one of their subsidiaries (1997 op/ed).

http://www.davekopel.com/2A/OpEds/Ar..._to_Police.htm

This is the opposing point of view

http://mediamatters.org/research/200506300004


Media examples of shootings using assault weopens are all over the virtual map.
You can Google it up.


PS: Before my virtual and anonymous friend USB intervenes, I like to point out that I agree with him to the fact that weapons used by felons are not in their hands via a legal way.

According to http://spotcrime.com/il/chicago, 32 shootings were reported in Chicago in the span of 6/22/2010 thru 6/30/2010.

I agree that being in the wrong place at the wrong time can happen anywhere.
However I believe most shootings in US cities are done with handguns, in Mexico they prefer rapid fire, more potent, long guns where bullets tend to be more widely assimilated.
In the US they seldom, if ever, open fire on an armed police or military convoy, it's commonplace in Mexico.