Monterrey

[MonterreyDude]

1. Bbond, of course the girls think they are above us.
Don't tell me this is the first time you've noticed?
But the word "think" is precisely where one must concentrate when dealing with them.

Thing is you must let it be known to them that you are the one that has the money in hand, ergo, you ARE above them and they are nothing more than ho's.
New generation of girls should know their place in the Mexican caste system if they are in the ho business.
In the mean time, I fairly pretend that I favor girls at some clubs, but I also let them know that I have other girls at other clubs that are willing to acomodate me.

A fair problem is the quantity of girls from where to choose from and our age.
Bbond, you are fairly limited in your hunting grounds of NL but I know you have your own batch of "favoritas", extremly good girls that favor you.

Age is #1 obstacle and damn if the new generation of girls favor the young and single clients over the older and more consistent customers.

Point in case: I never let them place themselves over me and USB has seen me openly shun girls that think they can be better than me.

2. Unspongebob, shame on you saying that PSE is almost nil in Monterrey.
In all your trips to Mexico you have constantly avoided all the girls that offer precisely that, PSE, cause you in your own way you have been looking for other kind of girls.
Hell!!! there are girls that are so PPSE (porn square), that I avoid them!!!
How many times have I pointed out girls to you that are wildcats and you just go "no, too tall, too thin, not a flaca morena, too thick, too much fair skinned, naw... don't like her".
Like you liked my former GF from Harem... funny cause she used to be a nice quiet kitten, no PSE with her, but opposite to my actual GF from Casino which is not of your tastes cause she's older and has big knockers (naturals) and happens to be a sex degenerate.

But let it be known that USB might not be fairly familiar to the PSE of Monterrey, which is totally OK with him cause he's looking for a different kind of girl.
And that is his prerrogative.


PS: What USB refers to as "amigovias" should be "amigomias" a possesive tense of my handle as in "my girlfriends".

Just read this again, and holy shit it hit hard, this is the truth that many think they are above. Believe it, because that's just how it is.

[MonterreyDude]

Trainman, what you are asking for IS expensive like hell in Monterrey.

You need to scale down a little, cause you are talking anything in the vecinity of 500 dlls up and even then, you might not get what you want.

Trainman, let's start from square one: What is your planned budget for a night like the one you have in mind.

By the way, totally forget about filming.
Girls are not dumb, they know they might end in the WWW.

Where should I go to pick up the girls to take back to my hotel.

Will the girls stay all night, and what prices do you have to pay per hour is USD

Will the girls do owo and facial finish

Is it possible to get 2 girls for all nighter back at Hotel, and is it easy to find 2 girls to perform full lesbian

What is the likelyhood of them allowing filming

Please any advise before I go would be a great help.

Many thanks

Trainman

[Bbond]

The Porn Star Experience is attainable, but it is such an unbelievable rarity in Mexico that disappointment can probably be anticipated in at least 90% of the encounters in Mexico without significant work being invested in advance.

Yes, it is attainable, and I have found that the best candidates, here in NL anyway, are not the best lookers hence don't get as many offers or opportunities to make money. The best looking PSE girl I have here I found in a bar when she was relatively new, and I had a reputation in the bar, know all wait staff etc, so she was comfortable with me from the start. The PSE did not come on the 1st night, took about 3 trips to room before she cut loose, and now I think she has as good of a time as I do.

[MonterreyDude]

Albert, Girl Friendly hotels are the ones where you have NO problem at all to get girls in, not that the ones where you have to manage a way of how to aproach a securty guard and be able to bribe him.

Since you posted last time that you would not reveal openly how you got girls into the HIC, I must guess that means that you have to bribe security to get the girl in.
That, Albert, is not a GF hotel.

Holiday Inn Centro is too

[Member #3453]

The Porn Star Experience is attainable, but it is such an unbelievable rarity in Mexico that disappointment can probably be anticipated in at least 90% of the encounters in Mexico without significant work being invested in advance.

To have the expectation that one can blow into town, in Mexico, and expect to receive a Porn Star Experience, is almost delusional within the context of discussing the temperament of Mexican Girls.

I have all but abandoned wasting my money on Mexican girls that I can not turn into "Amigovias." If I try to take the easy way out, even trying to throw money at them as a motivator, I have learned that the typical result will be a futile and disappointing strategy in the vast majority of cases. Why?

Because the girls that are the best candidates for a Porn Star Experience can be "reached" apart from expenditures of large sums of money, and those that can not be reached possess a temperament that should automatically exclude them from one's eligible pool of selection.

Girls that are "reachable" are few and far between, so spending too much money on the rest, even to ascertain their eligibility, can be a tricky venture in Mexico. This is what distinguishes Mexico from other notorious venues like Asia, where the Porn Star Experience can be attainable without so much as 10 seconds worth of preparation.

Personally, I think it's a cultural thing, that Mexican girls are raised with kind of an independent chip on their shoulders, and that Mexican girls are not as "needy" with respect to their literal daily existence as girls in other parts of the World where literal poverty is a motivator to their cooperative behavior. In that respect I suppose money is a factor. But, the amounts spent for girls in Asia has no comparison to what it would be required to get the same result here in Mexico.

I don't mean my comments as a criticism of Mexican girls. Mexican girls appeal to me more than the Asian girls. The right Mexican girls seem to be able to maintain sort of a dignity that makes the ones that do engage in GFE seem like real girlfriends, which can ultimately produce the Porn Star Experience if we work on them in advance.

Just read this again, and holy shit it hit hard, this is the truth that many think they are above. Believe it, because that's just how it is.

[Bbond]

They will look for every opportunity to exploit you because of the circumstances that you present to them with your "list" of requirements. They will not look upon you as an "Amigovio," a distinction that many regulars enjoy, and a distinction in approach that often results in strong GFE characteristics being exhibited by them toward their known regulars. You will be strictly an opportunity for them to make money, with very little incentive for them to perform to your expectations.

Just read this again, and holy shit it hit hard, this is the truth that many think they are above. Believe it, because that's just how it is.

[Albert Punter]

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For starters there is only one girl friendly hotel left in Monterrey and that is the Sheraton Ambassador.

Holiday Inn Centro is too

[Member #3453]

"Where should I go to pick up the girls to take back to my hotel."

The girls at the low end bars will typically cost you less per hour than were you to go to the medium level bars:

Low End Bars = El Infinito, Tangalay, El Cielo, Tango, Beibi's
Medium Level Bars = Casino, Harem, Azul Tequilla, Pasarelas, Woman's

"Will the girls stay all night, and what prices do you have to pay per hour is USD?"

Girls will not typically stay all night...they will stay 1.5 hours maximum per $100.00US to $200.00US spent (approximately) + $35.00US to $80.00US per 1.5 hours for the bar fine. If you want more than "conventional" covered sex, be prepared to spend for add-ons. Because you are not a regular, and because you will be unknown to them, strictly a business proposition in their eyes. The girls are usually quite mercenary, very independent, and often a disappointment with respect to being Porn Star Quality, regardless of how HOT they may look, and/or how alluring they may initially act in the bar.

They will look for every opportunity to exploit you because of the circumstances that you present to them with your "list" of requirements. They will not look upon you as an "Amigovio," a distinction that many regulars enjoy, and a distinction in approach that often results in strong GFE characteristics being exhibited by them toward their known regulars. You will be strictly an opportunity for them to make money, with very little incentive for them to perform to your expectations.

Mexican girls are NOT benevolent when it comes to making money, so expect them to be more inclined to scam you by promising the moon, then holding out on delivering to your expectation, versus delivering the kind of Porn Star "performance" you're looking for.

On the other hand, Mexican girls can be very generous with their legitimate affections, even when you're paying them, but only if you take the time to get close to them, and demonstrate to them that you are more than just out to exploit them as sex objects only.

"Will the girls do/allow a facial finish?"

Cash is KING. Explain to them what you want, in advance, and be prepared to PAY BIG for them to do it. Many will require you to add an additional $25-$50US for extras.

"Is it possible to get 2 girls for all nighter back at Hotel, and is it easy to find 2 girls to perform full lesbian?"

It is possible, but you are likely to have to pay for the privilege, probably to tune of $25 to $50 US more per act. But, your larger issue is going to be finding a hotel they will even allow one of them in, much less two of them.

Simply put, there is only one hotel in Monterrey that will allow a guest into the hotel with a working girl, much less two or more at the same time. That hotel is the Sheraton Ambassador Hotel. Were you to attempt to bring two of them in at once to any hotel in Monterrey, that will likely be seen, even at the Sheraton, even as a regular guest, with considerable objection without some significant bribery taking place with key gate keepers at the hotels.

I am referring here to hotels that are legitimate hotels. There are, of course, many "no tell" hotels, and they will be no big problem with whatever you have in mind. Those will typically cost you about $10US to $20US per hour, but they are the pits to stay at. My suggestion would be to have your hotel for comfort, and to arrange some time at a "no-tell" hotel for your activities with the girls.


"What is the likelihood of them allowing filming?"

They will allow photos and filming. But, be prepared to PAY BIG for the privilege. Most of the girls in the business are in it for the short term, just to make some extra money. And, many of them would be significantly appalled at the prospect of anyone ever finding out that they worked in a bar, much less that they prostituted themselves on salida, and/or that they were the actresses in a porno.

So, they are very protective of their night time activities, and they draw a very hard line emotional and psychological distinction between what they do for extra money, and their normal everyday lives. That having been said, many of them will flinch at being filmed, and some will not even permit photos either. It just depends on the girls. Were I to estimate it, I would say that 30-40% will permit photos, and 20-30% will probably allow filming, mostly because you are not a regular. That percentage widens when they know you and when you have the significant advantage of familiarity.

The bottom line advise is to make them understand everything that's expected up front before you ever agree to take them out of the bar. Then, expect most of them to deliver about 50 percent of what they promise. My advice would be to tie their performance to specific amounts in tips that will be paid at the end of the session, and make them vividly understand that the only way they will receive those specific amounts in tips is to perform to your total and complete satisfaction. Because, without dangling the carrot of additional BIG MONEY, if your experience is even mildly satisfactory with most Mexican girls, you're significantly beating the averages.

[Trainman]

Where should I go to pick up the girls to take back to my hotel.

Will the girls stay all night, and what prices do you have to pay per hour is USD

Will the girls do owo and facial finish

Is it possible to get 2 girls for all nighter back at Hotel, and is it easy to find 2 girls to perform full lesbian

What is the likelyhood of them allowing filming

Please any advise before I go would be a great help.

Many thanks

Trainman

[MonterreyDude]

This is your guide Trainman.
The ISG.

Better than paying a guy that will charge you a lot and only take you to expensive places where he'll get kickbacks.

Ask your questions Trainman.

For starters there is only one girl friendly hotel left in Monterrey and that is the Sheraton Ambassador.

I shall be in Monterrey in June or July for 6 or 7 days on business, does anyone know of a guide that can help me to get what I want, without any fuss or messing about.

Also, which Hotels would be best to stay in and are girl friendly.

Any help would be appreciated, due to lack of ground time, and if anyone can help, this means more fun, less of a wild goose chase.

I shall then be going onto Monclova. anyone have any ideas where I should stay, and also where the action is.

Any help appreciated

Trainman

[Trainman]

I shall be in Monterrey in June or July for 6 or 7 days on business, does anyone know of a guide that can help me to get what I want, without any fuss or messing about.

Also, which Hotels would be best to stay in and are girl friendly.

Any help would be appreciated, due to lack of ground time, and if anyone can help, this means more fun, less of a wild goose chase.

I shall then be going onto Monclova. anyone have any ideas where I should stay, and also where the action is.

Any help appreciated

Trainman

[Member #3453]

Well, here's the test...Where does Mr. Valseca, a Mexican Citizen of prominent standing feel the safest? Is it in the land of the proverbial "guns nuts," ie: the USA, or in the land of "slow moving and incompetent Justice, where the average Mexican Citizen is victimized directly by a criminal element more powerful than the Mexican Government itself, which, as we both know, is more often than not, frequently one in the same.

And, remember, if we have an occasional nut case slip through the cracks, so be it, I'll take my chances. Because, I can shoot back, not only at the nut cases, but at the criminals, versus your virtual helplessness against the huge armies of violent criminals you have in your society, all of them armed, all of them ruthlessly pursuing a virtually helpless society of lambs to the slaughter.

Gun possesion in Mexico... nope, not true.

What? You think we are as crazy as you "right to bear arms" American nuts???

Not at all.

Of course, being well informed tof the controversy of the 2nd Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms..."

The Mexican Constitution has no "right to bear arms" at all.

Well neither does the US Constitution beyond "a well regulated Militia", but be my guest.

Actually what I mean, after a few educated chats with USB is that well, it is your "right" to "bear arms" (supposedly) but what is not correct is that EVERYONE should have that right, including nut cases and criminals, which every day is more notorious in the US.
More people that shouldn't be bearing arms are bearing arms.

[MonterreyDude]

Gun possesion in Mexico... nope, not true.

What? You think we are as crazy as your "right to bear arms"???

Not at all.

The Mexican Constitution has no "right to bear arms" at all.

Yes, and Friday evening, there was a Dateline Report on Television regarding a Mexican Gentleman that was kidnapped from his ranch in San Maguel de Allende. Here is a summary of the program from the internet.

"The son of a Mexican newspaper tycoon “Eduardo Garcia Valseca” was driving his jeep, while his former model wife Jayne Rager sits on the passenger side. They lived on their ranch just outside the beautiful San Miguel de Allende. Eduardo Garcia Valseca parked their vehicle in the parking lot of the Waldorf School, which they founded. While Jayne, his wife, took the children inside the school. Eduardo Garcia Valseca waits in his jeep for her return. They were about to leave when an SUV stops in front of Eduardo Garcia Valseca jeep, men with handguns came out of the vehicle smashed the windows of the jeeps the couple was thrown into the SUV with a thick cotton sacks on ther heads, while Eduardo Garcia Valseca was handcuffed, his wife’s feet and wrists were duct taped. While Jayne was freed the next morning Eduardo Garcia Valseca spent over 7-1/2 months in captivity. Kidnappers asked for $8 million they paid a little less than $1 million in random."

Sr. Valseca was lucky to have been eventually released, not to mention his being lucky to be alive. He had been kept in a wooden box, no toilet, just a bucket, almost no food, etc...By the time he was released, he was so emaciated from near starvation, also having been shot twice, and tortured repeatedly, that he was barely recognizable from his former self. He literally looked like a skeleton. The Valseca family now lives in the USA because they can no longer be safe living in his native Mexico, which he loved dearly.

There is ONLY one solution to the problem in Mexico. Arm your good law abiding citizens. Allow them to protect their own lives. Because once armed, the excesses of government, and the excesses of the criminal element, will be very quickly brought under control by the "People."

There is a ray of hope. I heard from a taxi driver in Monterrey just the other day that there is apparently some kind of measure on the ballot in Mexico that will permit citizens to legally possess firearms. I don't know how true that is, but if true, it is literally their ONLY hope.

[Member #3453]

Yes, and Friday evening, there was a Dateline Report on Television regarding a Mexican Gentleman that was kidnapped from his ranch in San Maguel de Allende. Here is a summary of the program from the internet.

"The son of a Mexican newspaper tycoon “Eduardo Garcia Valseca” was driving his jeep, while his former model wife Jayne Rager sits on the passenger side. They lived on their ranch just outside the beautiful San Miguel de Allende. Eduardo Garcia Valseca parked their vehicle in the parking lot of the Waldorf School, which they founded. While Jayne, his wife, took the children inside the school. Eduardo Garcia Valseca waits in his jeep for her return. They were about to leave when an SUV stops in front of Eduardo Garcia Valseca jeep, men with handguns came out of the vehicle smashed the windows of the jeeps the couple was thrown into the SUV with a thick cotton sacks on ther heads, while Eduardo Garcia Valseca was handcuffed, his wife’s feet and wrists were duct taped. While Jayne was freed the next morning Eduardo Garcia Valseca spent over 7-1/2 months in captivity. Kidnappers asked for $8 million they paid a little less than $1 million in random."

Sr. Valseca was lucky to have been eventually released, not to mention his being lucky to be alive. He had been kept in a wooden box, no toilet, just a bucket, almost no food, etc...By the time he was released, he was so emaciated from near starvation, also having been shot twice, and tortured repeatedly, that he was barely recognizable from his former self. He literally looked like a skeleton. The Valseca family now lives in the USA because they can no longer be safe living in his native Mexico, which he loved dearly.

There is ONLY one solution to the problem in Mexico. Arm your good law abiding citizens. Allow them to protect their own lives. Because once armed, the excesses of government, and the excesses of the criminal element, will be very quickly brought under control by the "People."

There is a ray of hope. I heard from a taxi driver in Monterrey just the other day that there is apparently some kind of measure on the ballot in Mexico that will permit citizens to legally possess firearms. I don't know how true that is, but if true, it is literally their ONLY hope.

Well I liked Monterrey so much that I moved to Rio Grande city from Dallas, Tx. But all is not well in the Mexican Boarder States Tamaulipas and Nuevo Lion. The Zetas and the Cartel del Gulfo are at War! I live about four miles from the international bridge; very close to a city named Camargo. It's been gun fire off and on the last two weeks. I kid you not. You could smell the gun smoke from my house. I'am not trying to scare anybody. But, The Mcallen Moniter Newspaper reported that Monterrey would be one of the main battle grounds for this war. The Mexican press has remained silent due to threats. And with only limited reports from the Mexican government from clashes with the cartels. It broke my heart that a city, I grew up in (Miguel Aleman) was attacked by the Cartel Del Guflo. (they managed to kill 6 police officers and several civilians). The sitituation is very tense right now on the border. I have never seen it this bad before. What is so Shocking to me is that when the Cartel Del Gulfo attcked Miguel Aleman, they literally came in the city with large signs on there trucks Claiming they were CDG (Cartel Del Gulfo!), Kinda reminded me of Hamas extremist groups. This has occured during the last two weeks.

[Marius 67]

Well I liked Monterrey so much that I moved to Rio Grande city from Dallas, Tx. But all is not well in the Mexican Boarder States Tamaulipas and Nuevo Lion. The Zetas and the Cartel del Gulfo are at War! I live about four miles from the international bridge; very close to a city named Camargo. It's been gun fire off and on the last two weeks. I kid you not. You could smell the gun smoke from my house. I'am not trying to scare anybody. But, The Mcallen Moniter Newspaper reported that Monterrey would be one of the main battle grounds for this war. The Mexican press has remained silent due to threats. And with only limited reports from the Mexican government from clashes with the cartels. It broke my heart that a city, I grew up in (Miguel Aleman) was attacked by the Cartel Del Guflo. (they managed to kill 6 police officers and several civilians). The sitituation is very tense right now on the border. I have never seen it this bad before. What is so Shocking to me is that when the Cartel Del Gulfo attcked Miguel Aleman, they literally came in the city with large signs on there trucks Claiming they were CDG (Cartel Del Gulfo!), Kinda reminded me of Hamas extremist groups. This has occured during the last two weeks.