Monterrey

[Genghois]

I'll be in Monterrey, next week, and would love to meet up with a experienced wing man.

I'm not a stranger to the scene, and I've been visiting, off and on, for a few years, but my Spanish is limited and it's always good to meet a fellow ISG member!

Send me a PM. I'll be in town on the 15th

[Mextexman]

Perhaps next time we can have a cerveza as I really would not enjoy mty if it were not for someone like yourself giving us your input. The least I can do is buy you a beer y darte las gracias. I really enjoyed Mr. Jara, he was very polite and very professional when we spoke. I will probably try to at least say "Hi" next time I am in the club, he is a good guy to know. As some wise monger once said. "I don't pay for sex, I pay for them to leave".

[MonterreyDude]

Jaras did tell me that there was an Americano on the floor.

Sorry I wasn't there but one of my girls had me cornered at one of the privados.
Took me a lot of time to get "rid" of her!!!

Bus arrived right on time, was at el infinto 5 minutes later and literally ran into a young morenita I had made friends with the last time I was there. She had given me her phone number and we had talked several times, but then she dropped out of sight. Oh well. NEXT! When I saw her Friday night she told me she had her cell stolen along with her purse. Meant mr. Jara, said amigomio was IN THE HOUSE. I do not know the standard mode of operandi, do we meet, do we have an official secret handshake. I trembled in my shoes to meet the great oneknobi. In person no less. So I thought I would pass when he offered to introduce us. Left, had a great dinner/conversation with my friend, tried a restaruant neither she nor I had been to before. Important thing was that she enjoyed herself, for a little 50kg thing she sure could eat. It's nice when you can tell that they really appreciate it. Said she was nervous and had never been to such a nice restaruant. NOW for the interesting part. Needed to stop at an ATM for some "el harem" cash. The taxi driver got down with me. Great guy. Recommended by my friend. Will definitly use him again. He kept me from using the type of ATM that takes in your card. Said some guys program the ATM to swallow your card, they later come back, enter some code, and now they have a real genuine ATM card at their disposal til the am until you figure out how and with whom do you cancel your card. You think your safe because the ATM has it inside. WRONG. Anyway he took me to another location on Madero where you swipe your card, it never leaves your sight or your hand. Just a little bit of info for you brother mongers. On the bus by 5am, breakfast with my buddys at 9am. I love the look on the %&*)(*at#at$ immigration guys when I tell them that dinner turned into breakfast.

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[Member #3453]

1. You're right...the margin is ZERO. As you know, my time is otherwise occupied, so the margin for success is virtually non-existent.

2. That is not what you said. You said I am a magnet for married girls, girls with emotional problems, girls that are "freaky," etc...which I agree with. Thank GOD for them. And, if you are being honest, shouldn't we acknowledge that they are ALL fakes, verdad? That is their job afterall.

3. You're right there...most are not worth bar fining. But, I am the eternal optimist, hoping beyond all reason that I might just stumble aimlessly into another "unique" one.

4. I only lose track of the forgettable...And, frankly, most are not worth my remembering.

5. I advise you to get used to your diet... :-))) Double Touchet!!!

Unspongebob a Cabron?

Nope.

There are many reasons why he's not.

1. The margin of girls from where he makes his pickings is too slim. His breathing room for errors is so small that mostly he will get deceptions instead of triumphs.

2. USB is a magnet for the Great Fakes, incredible actresses that will do his very whim in the club, but outside all facades go down.

3. He is still unable to discern who is good and who isn't at first sight.

4, Keeps losing track of girls.

5. Am not saying anymore... I done with my diet, if I keep going I won't get cookies.

[Mextexman]

Bus arrived right on time, was at el infinto 5 minutes later and literally ran into a young morenita I had made friends with the last time I was there. She had given me her phone number and we had talked several times, but then she dropped out of sight. Oh well. NEXT! When I saw her Friday night she told me she had her cell stolen along with her purse. Meant mr. Jara, said amigomio was IN THE HOUSE. I do not know the standard mode of operandi, do we meet, do we have an official secret handshake. I trembled in my shoes to meet the great oneknobi. In person no less. So I thought I would pass when he offered to introduce us. Left, had a great dinner/conversation with my friend, tried a restaruant neither she nor I had been to before. Important thing was that she enjoyed herself, for a little 50kg thing she sure could eat. It's nice when you can tell that they really appreciate it. Said she was nervous and had never been to such a nice restaruant. NOW for the interesting part. Needed to stop at an ATM for some "el harem" cash. The taxi driver got down with me. Great guy. Recommended by my friend. Will definitly use him again. He kept me from using the type of ATM that takes in your card. Said some guys program the ATM to swallow your card, they later come back, enter some code, and now they have a real genuine ATM card at their disposal til the am until you figure out how and with whom do you cancel your card. You think your safe because the ATM has it inside. WRONG. Anyway he took me to another location on Madero where you swipe your card, it never leaves your sight or your hand. Just a little bit of info for you brother mongers. On the bus by 5am, breakfast with my buddys at 9am. I love the look on the %&*)(*at#at$ immigration guys when I tell them that dinner turned into breakfast.

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[MonterreyDude]

Unspongebob a Cabron?

Nope.

There are many reasons why he's not.

1. The margin of girls from where he makes his pickings is too slim. His breathing room for errors is so small that mostly he will get deceptions instead of triumphs.

2. USB is a magnet for the Great Fakes, incredible actresses that will do his very whim in the club, but outside all facades go down.

3. He is still unable to discern who is good and who isn't at first sight.

4, Keeps losing track of girls.

5. Am not saying anymore... I done with my diet, if I keep going I won't get cookies.

I am not leading the conversation nowhere...I am leading it in circles. :-)))

First, with respect to what I do, or don't do, in the bars, that was presented hypothetically to demonstrate that what is "real" between us and them, and what is fantasy have little to do with one another.

My point was that were I so inclined, I am free to prowl the clubs at night. And, if I do, usually it's to sit in the bar and to strictly socialize with them, and not much else. Because, literally, what I have for "real" is so totally sufficient for me, that I am not really typically interested in bar fining them. This is a realization that one simply can't just turn off and on. You're either satiated or not. Literally, there are times that I am simply so satiated with my girl, that I really couldn't care less otherwise.

Amigomio is right...we are making a difference in the pitiful lives of at least two of them. We can't save the world, so we have each selected one that has touched us more deeply than all the rest, and made a difference in their lives, taken them under our wing, and let them into our hearts.

We know a TON of girls, verdad? So, that's a testament to their uniqueness. Each of us feels that our own girls deserve our "special" consideration, and we have responded accordingly to that uniqueness.

The rest of them do not deserve our special consideration because we do not feel compelled. They are not unique according to our terms. Our girls know we are sincere with them, and that we truly believe in their uniqueness. My theory? That's why our girls know we are for "real," and it's the single biggest influence upon them that makes us "real" for them.

Both, you and Amigomio are correct, that is...I do not advocate getting to know the girls on a personal level, unless you see something in them that distinguishes them so substantially from the rest, that you "feel" the motivation to take it beyond mongering. I agree that it's wisest, and also more fun, less expensive, less work, etc...to isolate yourself, just as they isolate themselves.

But, conversely, if you find one where the chemistry is right, the personalities click, the friendships blossom, etc...then, expect for an escalation to it becoming "real." But, be warned, it is not only extremely rewarding, but also simultaneously painful, because, afterall, it is "real" and life ain't easy. And, to go even further, what is "real" is not mongering...

So, monger on OR make it "real," or both. One has little to do with the other.

And, finally, your most vivid statement, "Cabrons like us feed this life..."

Cabrons like "US" ?????

Finally, you admit it...Unospongebob is officially a Cabron as declared by El Cabron himself.

However, in the case of what is "real," Unospongebob is a "Sweet Heart Gringo" with the potential to act as a Cabron if he wanted to...WHICH HE DOES NOT! It is a choice one individually makes, to be a Cabron.

Unospongebob has the ability, the opportunity, the personality, etc..to act the Cabron, but he does not feel the need, nor the desire. Unospongebob is satiated. See the distinction?

By the way, remember, third and fourth week will be terrible. They're all going home for Christmas, and their kids get off school for at least a couple weeks before Christmas. A lot of the girls will be running around making preparations to travel, preparing for the holidays, etc...There will, of course, be those that are working right up to the last minute to buy gifts and prepare financially for travel arrangements. But, many will be absent.

Make it the second week of December and you should be OK...

[Member #3453]

i am not leading the conversation nowhere...i am leading it in circles. :-)))

first, with respect to what i do, or don't do, in the bars, that was presented hypothetically to demonstrate that what is "real" between us and them, and what is fantasy have little to do with one another.

my point was that were i so inclined, i am free to prowl the clubs at night. and, if i do, usually it's to sit in the bar and to strictly socialize with them, and not much else. because, literally, what i have for "real" is so totally sufficient for me, that i am not really typically interested in bar fining them. this is a realization that one simply can't just turn off and on. you're either satiated or not. literally, there are times that i am simply so satiated with my girl, that i really couldn't care less otherwise.

amigomio is right...we are making a difference in the pitiful lives of at least two of them. we can't save the world, so we have each selected one that has touched us more deeply than all the rest, and made a difference in their lives, taken them under our wing, and let them into our hearts.

we know a ton of girls, verdad? so, that's a testament to their uniqueness. each of us feels that our own girls deserve our "special" consideration, and we have responded accordingly to that uniqueness.

the rest of them do not deserve our special consideration because we do not feel compelled. they are not unique according to our terms. our girls know we are sincere with them, and that we truly believe in their uniqueness. my theory? that's why our girls know we are for "real," and it's the single biggest influence upon them that makes us "real" for them.

both, you and amigomio are correct, that is...i do not advocate getting to know the girls on a personal level, unless you see something in them that distinguishes them so substantially from the rest, that you "feel" the motivation to take it beyond mongering. i agree that it's wisest, and also more fun, less expensive, less work, etc...to isolate yourself, just as they isolate themselves.

but, conversely, if you find one where the chemistry is right, the personalities click, the friendships blossom, etc...then, expect for an escalation to it becoming "real." but, be warned, it is not only extremely rewarding, but also simultaneously painful, because, afterall, it is "real" and life ain't easy. and, to go even further, what is "real" is not mongering...

so, monger on or make it "real," or both. one has little to do with the other.

and, finally, your most vivid statement, "cabrons like us feed this life..."

cabrons like "us" ?????

finally, you admit it...unospongebob is officially a cabron as declared by el cabron himself.

however, in the case of what is "real," unospongebob is a "sweet heart gringo" with the potential to act as a cabron if he wanted to...which he does not! it is a choice one individually makes, to be a cabron.

unospongebob has the ability, the opportunity, the personality, etc..to act the cabron, but he does not feel the need, nor the desire. unospongebob is satiated. see the distinction?

by the way, remember, third and fourth week will be terrible. they're all going home for christmas, and their kids get off school for at least a couple weeks before christmas. a lot of the girls will be running around making preparations to travel, preparing for the holidays, etc...there will, of course, be those that are working right up to the last minute to buy gifts and prepare financially for travel arrangements. but, many will be absent.

make it the second week of december and you should be ok...

touché this ... :-)

man, you have not changed a bit... still driving me nuts brancing off the issue and leading the conversation to ... well .. no where ...

bob, you started by analyzing the girls. you were sounding like the gringo expert who knows what the girls want and how they do it. now you want to tell me what 'you' do in the midnight hours .... no man. we are still talking putas in a sex club ... not a sweetheart gringo.

back to my point ... you do not see the real stage. you see the el gringo bob stage. and that, my friends, it your own creation and your own imagination.

x-girl was raped at the age of 10. sweet p was abandoned with 3 children. crunchy s wanted to buy a house for her mother. tania wanted to go to college. x-girl married her lesbian she-husband who supported her studies. she hated smelly drunk men ... and on and on and on. young girls, pobres, fools are working the clubs only to give all their money to their pimps. other cry every night wondering what tell they will tell their children about life. others quit to shack up with a gringo who gives them the good life only to disappear in a us jail for a couple of years returning to a wife and child ....

cabrones like us feed this "life".

and that, my good friends, is ... touché

what are your plans for december? i am thinking 3rd weekend ... maybe.

[MonterreyDude]

damn if we are still talking pizza here.

nope... we don't pay attention to their lives.

if we would, we wouldn't do what we do to them.

specially you guys, not elcabron that has her girl on a totally different relationship than the ones he had before over here in monterrey.

elcabron is trying to make a little diference, even if its only one girl.

by the way, sweet p has retired, s is long gone, x no longer talks to me (again), t is no longer at el infi.

new generation of girls coming along.

am going to sound rough, but am looking forward to new horizons.
nevermind the girls that are gone now.

am looking foward for the new girls.

touché this ... :-)

man, you have not changed a bit... still driving me nuts brancing off the issue and leading the conversation to ... well .. no where ...

bob, you started by analyzing the girls. you were sounding like the gringo expert who knows what the girls want and how they do it. now you want to tell me what 'you' do in the midnight hours .... no man. we are still talking putas in a sex club ... not a sweetheart gringo.

back to my point ... you do not see the real stage. you see the el gringo bob stage. and that, my friends, it your own creation and your own imagination.

x-girl was raped at the age of 10. sweet p was abandoned with 3 children. crunchy s wanted to buy a house for her mother. tania wanted to go to college. x-girl married her lesbian she-husband who supported her studies. she hated smelly drunk men ... and on and on and on. young girls, pobres, fools are working the clubs only to give all their money to their pimps. other cry every night wondering what tell they will tell their children about life. others quit to shack up with a gringo who gives them the good life only to disappear in a us jail for a couple of years returning to a wife and child ....

cabrones like us feed this "life".

and that, my good friends, is ... touché

what are your plans for december? i am thinking 3rd weekend ... maybe.

[El Cabron 007]

touché this ... :-)

man, you have not changed a bit... still driving me nuts brancing off the issue and leading the conversation to ... well .. no where ...

bob, you started by analyzing the girls. you were sounding like the gringo expert who knows what the girls want and how they do it. now you want to tell me what 'you' do in the midnight hours .... no man. we are still talking putas in a sex club ... not a sweetheart gringo.

back to my point ... you do not see the real stage. you see the el gringo bob stage. and that, my friends, it your own creation and your own imagination.

x-girl was raped at the age of 10. sweet p was abandoned with 3 children. crunchy s wanted to buy a house for her mother. tania wanted to go to college. x-girl married her lesbian she-husband who supported her studies. she hated smelly drunk men ... and on and on and on. young girls, pobres, fools are working the clubs only to give all their money to their pimps. other cry every night wondering what tell they will tell their children about life. others quit to shack up with a gringo who gives them the good life only to disappear in a us jail for a couple of years returning to a wife and child ....

cabrones like us feed this "life".

and that, my good friends, is ... touché

what are your plans for december? i am thinking 3rd weekend ... maybe.

and that, my goooood friends, is...

touchet!!! :-)))

[Member #3453]

Here's the time line...

Make pizza, maybe a few galletas, between about 12:00 noon, to maybe 6-7pm. Enjoying the domesticated life...having fun, building upon something really, really good, and something that has proved to be so worthwhile and rewarding over the last five years. And, literally, I would not trade that for all the girls in El Infinito crammed into my hotel room at the same time, buck naked...Uhmmmm, well, maybe I wouldn't trade it...

You know how boring Monterrey is during the day. Except for my time at the buffets with Carlos? It is !!!EXCRUCIATINGLY!!! boring otherwise.

You see, strictly from the theoretical perspective, if I were of the mind to do otherwise, I am virtually free after 11pm each night. Face it, the bars don't even get rolling until after 11pm, right?

Now, what do you think I am doing between about 11pm and 4am-sometimes 5am? Uhmmmm???

I don't disclose the specifics here. I have learned my lesson. NO ONE knows...Not you, not the board, not even Carlos...

That's right, I'm in bed certainly...You think I'm asleep? Maybe, maybe not...

But, rest assured, I am not in some uncomfortable, back breaking, chair in El Infinito for 60 minutes buying some puta privados, which by my conservative estimate, would be costing the average patron at least $750 pesos in 4 minute songs (ie: 50 pesos x 15 privados = 60 minutes = 750 pesos), then at least 400-800 more pesos for "extras." A grand total of 1550 pesos. But, to be fair, I'll assume a conservative estimate of 1150 pesos (400 pesos for extras at the El Cabron discount).

Now, if I were, and I'm not saying I was, in bed, I would be in bed at my hotel for at least, and I mean the very least, 2 hours, to the tune of 1350 pesos, max, no "extras" cost, nada...

So, taken in the privados at a rate of 19 pesos per minute at El Infinito, or taken in my own "beddy by" at a rate of 22.5 pesos per minute...that's, count-em, 3.5 pesos more per minute to have total comfort and complete and total control of all circumstances, verdad?

And, not only that, but it is just quite possible that under the right conditions, the right GFE, the moon is full, the radio waves from mars are coming in loud in clear, whatever, that the two hour limit can turn into much, much longer a time, all for the SAME PRICE or less than those who choose to develop ruptured discs in the privados of El Infinito!

As for rubbing asses with El Cabron and Mr. L...no offense, none taken I'm sure, but I will pass on that exchange of intimacy. I'll do it my way, gracias... :-)))

And that, my goooood friends, is...

TOUCHET!!! :-)))

And there you have it. The definition of a Cabron vs a sweetheart gringo.

You, Bob, either miss the point completely or just play " la la lalala" .. we are not talking "feed the birds". We are not talking "petting zoo". We are talking sex club .. we are talking "take the b8ch upstairs, turn her around and screw her brains out". We are talking We are talking "Jaras coming up looking for me asking if I was on a marathon".

Who is the R girl?

Out of all the girls at El Infi, Crunch S was my favorite. And so was Slutty S ... no, Slutty S had the hots for Crunchy S. Slutty S loved taking me upstairs with Crunchy S. Crunchy S never had a girl but melted in the arms of Slutty S. Until, of course, Amigo Mio sent Sweet P to look for me upstairs and caught me with my pants down, Crunchy S facing the wall, Slutty S fingering ... well ... use your imagination and you will not be far off.

Back to you Bob. There is a whole new world in the clubs that you do not see because you are in the company of yourself. Forget G girl and forget Hybrid GFE. I am talking jumping into el info and having the waiters kick 4 dudes out of my table then 10 putas setting with you each competing to be your prize for the night. Amigo Mio's girl at Prestige French kissing me when he turns his back. Challenging Amigo Mio if I can take his all-time favorita home and she, in his face, says yes. Then he dumps her and hides all his girls from me. he has not introduced me to any of his girls in over 2 years. We are talking Amigo Mio, Mr. L and I sharing a hotel room with our girls and me having to see his ugly naked butt.

We are talking Mr. L saying "hey, your girl has nice nalgas" and me, in a heartbeat, switching girls.

We are talking Mr. L not finding anyone to his liking at the club. Not a problem, take mine.

That's some of the Cabronish attitude you will never see in MTY because you are in the company of the gringo Bob.

El Cabron

[El Cabron 007]

And there you have it. The definition of a Cabron vs a sweetheart gringo.

You, Bob, either miss the point completely or just play " la la lalala" .. we are not talking "feed the birds". We are not talking "petting zoo". We are talking sex club .. we are talking "take the b8ch upstairs, turn her around and screw her brains out". We are talking We are talking "Jaras coming up looking for me asking if I was on a marathon".

Who is the R girl?

Out of all the girls at El Infi, Crunch S was my favorite. And so was Slutty S ... no, Slutty S had the hots for Crunchy S. Slutty S loved taking me upstairs with Crunchy S. Crunchy S never had a girl but melted in the arms of Slutty S. Until, of course, Amigo Mio sent Sweet P to look for me upstairs and caught me with my pants down, Crunchy S facing the wall, Slutty S fingering ... well ... use your imagination and you will not be far off.

Back to you Bob. There is a whole new world in the clubs that you do not see because you are in the company of yourself. Forget G girl and forget Hybrid GFE. I am talking jumping into el info and having the waiters kick 4 dudes out of my table then 10 putas setting with you each competing to be your prize for the night. Amigo Mio's girl at Prestige French kissing me when he turns his back. Challenging Amigo Mio if I can take his all-time favorita home and she, in his face, says yes. Then he dumps her and hides all his girls from me. he has not introduced me to any of his girls in over 2 years. We are talking Amigo Mio, Mr. L and I sharing a hotel room with our girls and me having to see his ugly naked butt.

We are talking Mr. L saying "hey, your girl has nice nalgas" and me, in a heartbeat, switching girls.

We are talking Mr. L not finding anyone to his liking at the club. Not a problem, take mine.

That's some of the Cabronish attitude you will never see in MTY because you are in the company of the gringo Bob.

El Cabron

Notice that we are talking "pizza".

Well, let me tell you guys that one of ElCabron's girls (I think she was one of his), the R girl, jumped me coming out of the little boy's room.

(By the way, ElCabron, the "D" girl from the night shift is trying to make up with me, with graphical images of what I used to do to her).

Told me to take her upstairs.... wave her off and went with one of my favoritas.

Saw her at the line-up, decided to take her up.

Wonderful sex.

Week after that she wanted a reprise.

I paid the formidable number of 16 (!!!) privados, that is 64 minutes of sex, non stop with the R girl.

Went down, went to the mens room (now it's the MEN room), and coming out I bump into to of my alternate girls, both demanding where the hell I was.

Just acted dumb, told them I had no money and left.

Damn if the new and expanded Infinito is a place to expect the unexpected.

[MonterreyDude]

Notice that we are talking "pizza".

Well, let me tell you guys that one of ElCabron's girls (I think she was one of his), the R girl, jumped me coming out of the little boy's room.

(By the way, ElCabron, the "D" girl from the night shift is trying to make up with me, with graphical images of what I used to do to her).

Told me to take her upstairs.... wave her off and went with one of my favoritas.

Saw her at the line-up, decided to take her up.

Wonderful sex.

Week after that she wanted a reprise.

I paid the formidable number of 16 (!!!) privados, that is 64 minutes of sex, non stop with the R girl.

Went down, went to the mens room (now it's the MEN room), and coming out I bump into to of my alternate girls, both demanding where the hell I was.

Just acted dumb, told them I had no money and left.

Damn if the new and expanded Infinito is a place to expect the unexpected.

Definition of Gringo...

"Gringo is a Spanish word used in Mexico and other parts of Latin America, generally to denote people from the United States. The term can be applied to any person who is known, or assumed to be, from the United States regardless of race, or it can denote a strong association or assimilation into American society and culture. Recorded evidence suggests it was used in Spain long before it crossed the Atlantic to denote foreign, non-native speakers of Spanish. Although it has various anecdotal etymologies, and various connotative or interpretive meanings, its source appears to be "griego", the Spanish word for "a Greek person" that serves as a colloquial shorthand for any foreign (non-Spanish) person."

So, yes, I am most definitely a Gringo...I am a Gringo that's not so naive as to be conned by those putas. I hang on to my dough, and they play hell conning me out of it. And, if they do get it out of me, they've definitely earned it. So, whom is the wiser, they or me?

Yes, I think like a Gringo because I am a Gringo. And, as a Gringo, I am having it my way, or it ain't happenin,' verdad? We Gringos truly are stubborn and demanding. We have a worldwide reputation to uphold. We Americans are the Cabrons of the world.

And, the hell those putas don't want my cookies!!!! You should have heard them when the well ran dry on Friday. Amigomio had to put them all on suicide watch over at Obsession.

Amigomio, do they want the cookies? :-)))

Watch what you say....I see, Noooooooooo???? Well then, NO MORE COOKIES for las putas!!! :-))) See how that one goes over, verdad? :-)))

El Cabron, you have not tasted my lastest cookie, a NEW ONE, completely different than the previous genre...one that I just introduced to those despicable putas this week, and to Amigomio of course, the most despicable, cabronish, puta-iser of them all.

And, you have not heard of my most recent triumph El Cabron...Home-made, delicious pizza, from scratch...really...the dough, the sauce, three kinds of cheeses, blended to form a culinary delight. Magnificent! And, even locally made, including locally made home-made cookies these days, right there in Monterrey, made right there in our own kitchen...made exclusively by you know who with me supervising.

So, now you know...It has come to this, making pizzas, delivering cookies to Putas/Amigomio. How things have deteriorated. I am almost completely domesticated now, hen pecked, shuckin' & jivin,' scratching around just to hopefully get a little in between slaving over a hot oven. What a pitty. I need a vacation...maybe Asia with Porker one of these days, who knows?

NO MORE SOUP FOR YOU EL CABRON!!! :-)))

[Member #3453]

Definition of Gringo...

"Gringo is a Spanish word used in Mexico and other parts of Latin America, generally to denote people from the United States. The term can be applied to any person who is known, or assumed to be, from the United States regardless of race, or it can denote a strong association or assimilation into American society and culture. Recorded evidence suggests it was used in Spain long before it crossed the Atlantic to denote foreign, non-native speakers of Spanish. Although it has various anecdotal etymologies, and various connotative or interpretive meanings, its source appears to be "griego", the Spanish word for "a Greek person" that serves as a colloquial shorthand for any foreign (non-Spanish) person."

So, yes, I am most definitely a Gringo...I am a Gringo that's not so naive as to be conned by those putas. I hang on to my dough, and they play hell conning me out of it. And, if they do get it out of me, they've definitely earned it. So, whom is the wiser, they or me?

Yes, I think like a Gringo because I am a Gringo. And, as a Gringo, I am having it my way, or it ain't happenin,' verdad? We Gringos truly are stubborn and demanding. We have a worldwide reputation to uphold. We Americans are the Cabrons of the world.

And, the hell those putas don't want my cookies!!!! You should have heard them when the well ran dry on Friday. Amigomio had to put them all on suicide watch over at Obsession.

Amigomio, do they want the cookies? :-)))

Watch what you say....I see, Noooooooooo???? Well then, NO MORE COOKIES for las putas!!! :-))) See how that one goes over, verdad? :-)))

El Cabron, you have not tasted my lastest cookie, a NEW ONE, completely different than the previous genre...one that I just introduced to those despicable putas this week, and to Amigomio of course, the most despicable, cabronish, puta-iser of them all.

And, you have not heard of my most recent triumph El Cabron...Home-made, delicious pizza, from scratch...really...the dough, the sauce, three kinds of cheeses, blended to form a culinary delight. Magnificent! And, even locally made, including locally made home-made cookies these days, right there in Monterrey, made right there in our own kitchen...made exclusively by you know who with me supervising.

So, now you know...It has come to this, making pizzas, delivering cookies to Putas/Amigomio. How things have deteriorated. I am almost completely domesticated now, hen pecked, shuckin' & jivin,' scratching around just to hopefully get a little in between slaving over a hot oven. What a pitty. I need a vacation...maybe Asia with Porker one of these days, who knows?

NO MORE SOUP FOR YOU EL CABRON!!! :-)))

Totally off. I do not agree. Why?

Because you are a gringo, you only think as a gringo. You are right that this gives you/us some advantage in that it intrigues the girls. But hold on just a minute gringo:

you do not set with the locals. Those cabrones in the clubs. The players, the real players. Don't forget Bob, you are classified as a gringo who is tight. Where as there are those local cabrones that spend like there is no tomorrow. There are the not so rich locals that screw 10 girls in a single visit. There is that Amigo Mio who has a lineup of girls in every club. Those girls will drop everything to jump on Amigo Mio's horney bone.

You, being the gringo, are gentle with the girls. Yes, you are nice. But those putas do not want a gentle fly by night soft gringo with cookies. They want the cabron that pulls them by the hair and shows them where to blow. Call her fat and ugly and she will cling on to you like you were the last man on earth. Yes. The nice girls and the nasty ones as well. Mexican girls want a carbon, not a lindo.

You need to hang out with those locals. Then, and only then, you will learn that you have been living in your own world thinking you are the gift those girls have been dreaming of.

Nope, you are a hell of a nice gringo and they love you for that. But the gringo you are not, and will never be, is when you tell one chica to bring you another because she will not do what the other will.

El Cabron

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Totally off. I do not agree. Why?

Because you are a gringo, you only think as a gringo. You are right that this gives you/us some advantage in that it intrigues the girls. But hold on just a minute gringo:

you do not set with the locals. Those cabrones in the clubs. The players, the real players. Don't forget Bob, you are classified as a gringo who is tight. Where as there are those local cabrones that spend like there is no tomorrow. There are the not so rich locals that screw 10 girls in a single visit. There is that Amigo Mio who has a lineup of girls in every club. Those girls will drop everything to jump on Amigo Mio's horney bone.

You, being the gringo, are gentle with the girls. Yes, you are nice. But those putas do not want a gentle fly by night soft gringo with cookies. They want the cabron that pulls them by the hair and shows them where to blow. Call her fat and ugly and she will cling on to you like you were the last man on earth. Yes. The nice girls and the nasty ones as well. Mexican girls want a carbon, not a lindo.

You need to hang out with those locals. Then, and only then, you will learn that you have been living in your own world thinking you are the gift those girls have been dreaming of.

Nope, you are a hell of a nice gringo and they love you for that. But the gringo you are not, and will never be, is when you tell one chica to bring you another because she will not do what the other will.

El Cabron

One thing you're right about though. If I may be so bold...Speaking for us all, we Gringos, we do not see the distinction between the Morenas in one club, say Prestige, and the Morenas we see in El Infinito for example.

We do not see it, never have, never will. I've found girls from the lower cast in Prestige, and they don't look any different to me than the girls in El Infinito from the same social strata. I have eyes, I can see...


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Mainly, I think we mostly agree...I DO, REALLY, I DOOOOOOO accept your point of view concerning the cast system, and all of its influence upon the "WHY" certain things are the way they are.

But, I still say that the girls make the decision about where they're going to work, all be it with an eye toward their perception of their own success as it relates to where they fit within the cast system. For surely, they must know their place and apply for those jobs accordingly then, right?

One thing you're right about though. If I may be so bold...Speaking for us all, we Gringos, we do not see the distinction between the Morenas in one club, say Prestige, and the Morenas we see in El Infinito for example.

We do not see it, never have, never will. I've found girls from the lower cast in Prestige, and they don't look any different to me than the girls in El Infinito from the same social strata. I have eyes, I can see...

I can see the skin tone, the facial features, the ethnic influences of your Mexican indians, etc...I can see it. The management in the clubs may attempt to make selection based on cast, but they still hire girls from outside their lofty ideals it seems because I see them working there.

That doesn't mean that I do not take your word that such a distinction exists, and that it's quite evident to most Mexicans, or that it has a direct influence on which girl is popular or not.

With your cast system firmly entrenched, you have told me that certain girls from the lower cast are still considered Divas, and quite popular none the less, even with their lower cast facial bone structures, their dark brown skin, their dark black hair, etc...

Because, you know what I say? HOT is HOT is HOT is HOT!!! Period...And, cast system or not, certain girls can, and do, transcend the cast system to be successful in spite of their ethnic origins.

Frankly, I say, THANK GOD such a system exists in your country. It has produced such opportunities for me in the clubs, you would not believe it. Because, one thing I have learned, and one thing I do see quite vividly is that being a Gringo is the number ONE advantage evident to me from your cast system, other than having lots of money perhaps.

My Gringo heritage affords me automatic status and eligibility within your system, built-in desirability where I am otherwise virtually ignored in a world of Bitchy Gringas.

That is the first lesson you learn in Mexico as a newbie Gringo. You receive automatic status, automatic horny sexual interest, automatic respect, and automatic, almost unlimited access to so many Mexican girls, and especially with certain ones that are so obviously smitten with us due to the effects upon them from your cast system.

I am humbly and eternally in Mexico's debt. Muchas Gracias Mexico...

Damn... both friends USB and D98 are still trying to find the logic of how things work at clubs, from their point of view.

How many times both of you guys must be reminded that the House will accept any girl as long as it makes money for them?

You guys don't come that much to Monterrey so you lose track of the girls, but I constantly see them come and go, girls that last as long as a day and girls that adapt so well to the club and become hard veterans that will stay, but now the other way around, as long as they not the House, can make money at the club.

And the kind of girl, the type... the caste.

Yes, you don't notice, but we do.

Any girl from the upper tier clubs can work at the lower ones, but they don't, cause the girls can make much more money at the upper class ones without breaking the sweat that girls at the lower class clubs have too.

Contrary to that, and yes, we Mexicans can notice the diference in girls, the lower class club girls will not be accepted by management cause they are not of the "class" of the 5 star club (or 4 star club).

And even worse, the customers of the 4 or 5 star club WIL NOT accept the girl.
You see, mainly it's not management, it's the customers that define who or what stays at the club.

At the 4 or 5 star clubs, customers are upper middle to high class, looking for great looking girls. Girls that don't look like the maids that work at home.

At places like Infinito, customers are working class guys. They get the caste that's one or 2 notches below the 4 or 5 star clubs.

Of course they want great looking girls. Great looking cheap girls, but that does not include the kind working at places like Amensia, Prestige or Obsession on the night shifts.

Lets say you compare side by side a girl, lets say, just as an example, Adriana from Prestige and Denisse from Infinito.

Both great girls, but you'll see vast diferences in skin, facelines, ethnic marks, etc.

Many guys don't, cause again, you lose track of the girls, you don't pay attention to the girls you don't want or like, you simply don't care, which is a customers prerogative and well done, cause you don't have the time to spend on these kind of things.

What I don't get... WHY DON'T YOU GUYS BELEIVE ME!!!!!!

LOL, I have pointed out this many times, for years and we are still stuck in square 2!!!!