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  1. #1586
    Your apreciation of the girl/club routine is wrong Precocious.

    It depends on the individual, the girl, the club, the time of day... etc.
    I have seen girls go for free with many, not only Mexicans, but Americans too.

    And Sean is a regular visitor to Monterrey.
    He knows his way around without anyones help. He just needs to fine tune his way around.

    And Givenchy: On Tuesday last, before midnight, a battle royal erupted within the premises, leaving 3 people dead.
    Seems some drunks got in a fight with several others at another bar and all parties involved bumped into each other at Givenchy.

    And that's where it ended in tragedy.
    Givenchy is closed right now.
    Dunno when it will open.

    Quote Originally Posted by Precocious One
    Most of these girls could give a rat's a_s about Sean Juan or any other American monger visiting Monterrey.

    He will never become a WEEKLY client who can help pay her WEEKLY expenses. There is no chance of him becoming a client which is what all these girls are looking for.

    Weekly clients.

    It takes a lot for a girl to give GFE(permitting themselves to orgasm while you are inside of them). Most girls(especially the younger ones) will not allow themselves to offer this to one-time customers. I have had to session with girls two or three times before they allow themselves to GFE with me and that is even with them knowing that I live here and have the potential of becoming a weekly client. Also, if the girl does not want to deliver(GFE) she's not going to.

    As for being a magnet for divas, all you need is a money clip and a good dose of gullibility.

    Are you at liberty to publically elaborate on the Givenchy incident? If not, can you PM me with the details? Something of this nature is probably very infomative to mongers both here in Monterey and elsewhere.

  2. #1585
    Quote Originally Posted by Amigomio
    Sean, you really need to become a full member.

    We must get together and talk.

    I think you are like my good friend USB: a magnet for divas. Good girls that are good acts, but bad acts when horizontal.

    Sometimes Sean you have to be HARD on the girls.
    Like telling them "you better be good... you better deliver", like make them know, you know.
    That you are not the newbie tourist around Monterrey.

    That you have other options if you dislike the girl, that you can find better if she is not even better.

    And so on....

    We need to talk.

    Most of these girls could give a rat's a_s about Sean Juan or any other American monger visiting Monterrey.

    He will never become a WEEKLY client who can help pay her WEEKLY expenses. There is no chance of him becoming a client which is what all these girls are looking for.

    Weekly clients.

    It takes a lot for a girl to give GFE(permitting themselves to orgasm while you are inside of them). Most girls(especially the younger ones) will not allow themselves to offer this to one-time customers. I have had to session with girls two or three times before they allow themselves to GFE with me and that is even with them knowing that I live here and have the potential of becoming a weekly client. Also, if the girl does not want to deliver(GFE) she's not going to.

    As for being a magnet for divas, all you need is a money clip and a good dose of gullibility.

    Are you at liberty to publically elaborate on the Givenchy incident? If not, can you PM me with the details? Something of this nature is probably very infomative to mongers both here in Monterey and elsewhere.

  3. #1584
    Sean Juan-


    Your experience is the exact reason why I do not do the S/C's. Once you hang out with a girl they can make you feel obligated to buy them drinks every time you see them again. It can become very expensive if you have a problem saying no.

    I would venture to say that with the salida fee to the house, fichas, hotel($20/2 hours) and the cost to the girl you were out close to $230.00.

    $230.00.

    That will get me almost four sessions at my preferred MP's with no hassles.

  4. #1583
    Sean, you really need to become a full member.

    We must get together and talk.

    I think you are like my good friend USB: a magnet for divas. Good girls that are good acts, but bad acts when horizontal.

    Sometimes Sean you have to be HARD on the girls.
    Like telling them "you better be good... you better deliver", like make them know, you know.
    That you are not the newbie tourist around Monterrey.

    That you have other options if you dislike the girl, that you can find better if she is not even better.

    And so on....

    We need to talk.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Juan
    Am/PCO,

    To expound on my Pasareles comment, first I should premise by stating that I do speak passable Spanish (although not perfect) and am considered an attractive (although not modelesque by any means) mid-30's guy. Part of my problem was that I had already been to Pasareles a few days prior and taken a girl out on salida. I knew this could possibly present an issue. We had a great GFE session on that day, but we just didn't really click outside of the sex due to personality deficiencies, age difference, etc. (at least from my perspective). So upon my return to Pasareles, this same girl swarms all over me as I walk in the door. I somewhat expected that, and I invited her to a drink out of politeness and courtesy. There was another girl there who had caught my eye, so after shooting the doo doo with Girl #1 for about 20 minutes, I politely explained to her that for the moment I simply wanted to sit alone and enjoy the show. She was disappointed but then left. After a brief interval, I approached Girl #2. We talked for a bit before heading to the privado area so I could inspect the goods. She gave me a pretty lackluster dance, but she was very hot so I kind of brushed it off. We returned to my table only to have Girl #1 sit like two chairs away and constantly stare at me while with girl #2. I bought girl #2 a couple of more drinks before proposing the salida which she then declined. I was shocked actually. She said that she NEVER went on salida. So I said ok, thanked her for her time, and sent her on her way. Then girl #1 came back over and sat down next to me again giggling and teasing me that girl #2 didn't want to go out with me. I acted like I didn't understand what she was telling me and then called the waiter to bring me over another girl that was dancing onstage at that time. He went and told her but she never did come over because a group of local guys were cockblocking her. I ended up needing to get ugly with girl #1 and asked the waiter to please tell her in the most polite way as possible to please not come back to my table that night. And in the end, because of the rain and the cartel incident from the previous day, I didn't feel like starting over at a different club. I ended up settling for this girl who seemed passable on the surface, so we ended up leaving together. When we got to the hotel, however, she was totally lifeless. It was like banging a corpse except that if she didn't have her eyes closed, all she could do was laugh. It was quite irritating actually, and after unsuccessfully trying to improve the ambiance, even though I had her for two hours and it had been less than 30 minutes of being together, I sent her on her way without busting one. So I was definitely an unhappy camper. It was the most I had spent in one place through drinks, dances, and salida combined with zero to show for it. Anyway, it was partly my fault but as I stated, due to the previous day's activities I didn't feel comfortable bouncing around to clubs that I did not already know or was at least somehow known by the club itself. I ended up going back to my hotel quite preturbed. This all happened on Wednesday night. So on Thursday, I made plans with my favorita who does not work at Pasareles to ensure that my return to the States on Friday was not on a sour note. And as usual, she did not disappoint. And that is pretty much it in a nutshell! It seems that you need to have a wingman if you are returning to a club where you have already sampled from the menu to help combat these incidents. But anyway, it is what it is and certainly not my first disappointing mongering experience and more than likely will not be my last. As you recall, I had an uneventful encounter with the escort "Plata" on my previous excursion albeit way better than this one. The whole night just left a really bad taste in my mouth.

    SJ

  5. #1582

    Just for the record.........

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigomio
    May I ask what happend at Pasarelas?

    I am not visiting that club right now cause my girls are at Casino right now.

    What hppened???
    Am/PCO,

    To expound on my Pasareles comment, first I should premise by stating that I do speak passable Spanish (although not perfect) and am considered an attractive (although not modelesque by any means) mid-30's guy. Part of my problem was that I had already been to Pasareles a few days prior and taken a girl out on salida. I knew this could possibly present an issue. We had a great GFE session on that day, but we just didn't really click outside of the sex due to personality deficiencies, age difference, etc. (at least from my perspective). So upon my return to Pasareles, this same girl swarms all over me as I walk in the door. I somewhat expected that, and I invited her to a drink out of politeness and courtesy. There was another girl there who had caught my eye, so after shooting the doo doo with Girl #1 for about 20 minutes, I politely explained to her that for the moment I simply wanted to sit alone and enjoy the show. She was disappointed but then left. After a brief interval, I approached Girl #2. We talked for a bit before heading to the privado area so I could inspect the goods. She gave me a pretty lackluster dance, but she was very hot so I kind of brushed it off. We returned to my table only to have Girl #1 sit like two chairs away and constantly stare at me while with girl #2. I bought girl #2 a couple of more drinks before proposing the salida which she then declined. I was shocked actually. She said that she NEVER went on salida. So I said ok, thanked her for her time, and sent her on her way. Then girl #1 came back over and sat down next to me again giggling and teasing me that girl #2 didn't want to go out with me. I acted like I didn't understand what she was telling me and then called the waiter to bring me over another girl that was dancing onstage at that time. He went and told her but she never did come over because a group of local guys were cockblocking her. I ended up needing to get ugly with girl #1 and asked the waiter to please tell her in the most polite way as possible to please not come back to my table that night. And in the end, because of the rain and the cartel incident from the previous day, I didn't feel like starting over at a different club. I ended up settling for this girl who seemed passable on the surface, so we ended up leaving together. When we got to the hotel, however, she was totally lifeless. It was like banging a corpse except that if she didn't have her eyes closed, all she could do was laugh. It was quite irritating actually, and after unsuccessfully trying to improve the ambiance, even though I had her for two hours and it had been less than 30 minutes of being together, I sent her on her way without busting one. So I was definitely an unhappy camper. It was the most I had spent in one place through drinks, dances, and salida combined with zero to show for it. Anyway, it was partly my fault but as I stated, due to the previous day's activities I didn't feel comfortable bouncing around to clubs that I did not already know or was at least somehow known by the club itself. I ended up going back to my hotel quite preturbed. This all happened on Wednesday night. So on Thursday, I made plans with my favorita who does not work at Pasareles to ensure that my return to the States on Friday was not on a sour note. And as usual, she did not disappoint. And that is pretty much it in a nutshell! It seems that you need to have a wingman if you are returning to a club where you have already sampled from the menu to help combat these incidents. But anyway, it is what it is and certainly not my first disappointing mongering experience and more than likely will not be my last. As you recall, I had an uneventful encounter with the escort "Plata" on my previous excursion albeit way better than this one. The whole night just left a really bad taste in my mouth.

    SJ

  6. #1581
    Precocious, my friend, believe me, FS sex is available at all clubs on Madero Ave.

    It's just that maybe you are used to Infinito style.
    At the Madero Ave clubs you just don't go in and ask for a FS. There is a protocol to follow.
    Girls do get feisty if you cut the chase.

    And yes, I agree.
    Villagran St. clubs like Infinito and Tangalay are incredible options.

    Givenchy, for the moment has been closed.
    A very bad tragedy happened there last Tuesday.



    Quote Originally Posted by Precocious One
    Yes, both Pasarelas and Harem do go for the P4P but it is not as readily-available as the other clubs. These girls would rather sell drinks. If a monger is visiting here, he is better off with the other strip clubs. I had a favorita at Pasarelas last year and I do not recommend both of these places(Harem) for P4P if a monger does not live here, speak passabe Spanish or is not somewhat physically attractive. These places can end up being very expensive with no guarantee of sex.

    If a visiting or resident monger is looking for uncomplicated and unencumbered sex in Monterrey, the MP's, Infinito, Givenchy, Cielo, Tangalay, etc. offer the best opportunity. I have lived here twice and I unequivocally recommend the mid-level MP's over the S/C's. However, if a monger is old, unattractive, overweight or unappealing, he probably will not have much success with GFE in the MP's and is better off with the S/C's where his charm and personality can possibly compensate for the indiffferences.

    I like the mid-range MP's. It is not right or wrong. It is just what is right for me economically, physically and emotionally.

  7. #1580
    Quote Originally Posted by Amigomio
    Precocious, you are now entering my domains.

    Pasarelas has been a favorite among Americans visiting Monterrey.
    Funny part is I don't know if they go there because of this or another forum, but I've seen plenty of visitors there, including Koreans, and Japanese.
    It even caters to lady customers seeking bi girls.

    I must contradict you, cause Pasarelas girls are available for FS.
    It is a rare instance where they don't want to go.

    I do more or less agree with you on Harem.
    Girls there are so into their business that you must have money coming out of your pant zipper to really atract their attention.

    But they also go for FS.

    Must be the language barrier, but other than that, club girls are easy.
    Yes, both Pasarelas and Harem do go for the P4P but it is not as readily-available as the other clubs. These girls would rather sell drinks. If a monger is visiting here, he is better off with the other strip clubs. I had a favorita at Pasarelas last year and I do not recommend both of these places(Harem) for P4P if a monger does not live here, speak passabe Spanish or is not somewhat physically attractive. These places can end up being very expensive with no guarantee of sex.

    If a visiting or resident monger is looking for uncomplicated and unencumbered sex in Monterrey, the MP's, Infinito, Givenchy, Cielo, Tangalay, etc. offer the best opportunity. I have lived here twice and I unequivocally recommend the mid-level MP's over the S/C's. However, if a monger is old, unattractive, overweight or unappealing, he probably will not have much success with GFE in the MP's and is better off with the S/C's where his charm and personality can possibly compensate for the indiffferences.

    I like the mid-range MP's. It is not right or wrong. It is just what is right for me economically, physically and emotionally.

  8. #1579
    Precocious, you are now entering my domains.

    Pasarelas has been a favorite among Americans visiting Monterrey.
    Funny part is I don't know if they go there because of this or another forum, but I've seen plenty of visitors there, including Koreans, and Japanese.
    It even caters to lady customers seeking bi girls.

    I must contradict you, cause Pasarelas girls are available for FS.
    It is a rare instance where they don't want to go.

    I do more or less agree with you on Harem.
    Girls there are so into their business that you must have money coming out of your pant zipper to really atract their attention.

    But they also go for FS.

    Must be the language barrier, but other than that, club girls are easy.



    Quote Originally Posted by Precocious One
    I do not recommend Pasarelas or Harem to a visiting monger that does not speak passable Spanish. These girls are generally less available for sex than the girls at Infinito, Matahuala, Tangalay, Cielo, etc. The whole premise of the aforementioned clubs is to sell drinks. Expensive drinks. The girls here make their salary off the fichas they sell and do not necessarily need to go "arriba" unless they want to. After spending $100.00 in Jarras and an hour of your time, you may then come to the most likely conlclusion that you just paid good money for low-end counseling and remedial spanish lessons.

    Also, some of these girls have really big egos. I try to avoid this type of girl when living in Monterrey. I will take a six, seven or an eight that gives me a ten-level service over a nine or a ten that gives me a six-level service. There is absoutely nothing better than making out with a girl and washing her body while taking a shower after you just finished off with a 40+minute, sweat-drenched sex session. I never, ever talk to nine or ten's. Ever. M/P or S/C's. These girls are generally a waste of my time and money. I always look for the girl with some sort of flaw(slightly-overweight, small breasts, scar, attractive but not overly pretty,etc.).

    Remember, now more so than ever, there are incredible values in MX. There is absolutely no reason to be getting ripped off in the current economic climate.

    Your money is very valued right now. Do not think otherwise.

  9. #1578
    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Juan
    Am,

    Sorry I did not take that into consideration. I guess my mind was thinking about all of the fun possiblities! : o)

    I will definitely ensure that I rectify that situation prior to my next visit.

    On a side note, last night I went back to Pasareles and had the worst experience ever here in Monterrey. I have nixed it from my list of places to frequent. I have yet to make it to Prestige due to my work schedule and the recommendations of not patroning after 5pm. I will be sure to build some extra time into my next trip so we can possibly meet there during the lunch shift. ; o)

    Thanks again for everything, and I look forward to meeting you next time.

    SJ

    I do not recommend Pasarelas or Harem to a visiting monger that does not speak passable Spanish. These girls are generally less available for sex than the girls at Infinito, Matahuala, Tangalay, Cielo, etc. The whole premise of the aforementioned clubs is to sell drinks. Expensive drinks. The girls here make their salary off the fichas they sell and do not necessarily need to go "arriba" unless they want to. After spending $100.00 in Jarras and an hour of your time, you may then come to the most likely conlclusion that you just paid good money for low-end counseling and remedial spanish lessons.

    Also, some of these girls have really big egos. I try to avoid this type of girl when living in Monterrey. I will take a six, seven or an eight that gives me a ten-level service over a nine or a ten that gives me a six-level service. There is absoutely nothing better than making out with a girl and washing her body while taking a shower after you just finished off with a 40+minute, sweat-drenched sex session. I never, ever talk to nine or ten's. Ever. M/P or S/C's. These girls are generally a waste of my time and money. I always look for the girl with some sort of flaw(slightly-overweight, small breasts, scar, attractive but not overly pretty,etc.).

    Remember, now more so than ever, there are incredible values in MX. There is absolutely no reason to be getting ripped off in the current economic climate.

    Your money is very valued right now. Do not think otherwise.

  10. #1577
    May I ask what happend at Pasarelas?

    I am not visiting that club right now cause my girls are at Casino right now.

    What hppened???



    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Juan
    Am,

    Sorry I did not take that into consideration. I guess my mind was thinking about all of the fun possiblities! : o)

    I will definitely ensure that I rectify that situation prior to my next visit.

    On a side note, last night I went back to Pasareles and had the worst experience ever here in Monterrey. I have nixed it from my list of places to frequent. I have yet to make it to Prestige due to my work schedule and the recommendations of not patroning after 5pm. I will be sure to build some extra time into my next trip so we can possibly meet there during the lunch shift. ; o)

    Thanks again for everything, and I look forward to meeting you next time.

    SJ

  11. #1576

    Sorry I forgot

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigomio
    Sean J.

    Unfortunalty, I can not PM you so we can meet somewhere.
    Am,

    Sorry I did not take that into consideration. I guess my mind was thinking about all of the fun possiblities! : o)

    I will definitely ensure that I rectify that situation prior to my next visit.

    On a side note, last night I went back to Pasareles and had the worst experience ever here in Monterrey. I have nixed it from my list of places to frequent. I have yet to make it to Prestige due to my work schedule and the recommendations of not patroning after 5pm. I will be sure to build some extra time into my next trip so we can possibly meet there during the lunch shift. ; o)

    Thanks again for everything, and I look forward to meeting you next time.

    SJ

  12. #1575
    Sean J.

    Unfortunalty, I can not PM you so we can meet somewhere.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Juan
    AmigoMio,

    I am still in town until Friday. I am getting ready to head back out tonight. I'm not sure what your schedule allows for, but I should have tomorrow night free and all day Friday until my flight leaves @ 4:10pm. Would love to meet up with you if possible. But if not this trip, then certainly the next.

    SJ

  13. #1574
    Quote Originally Posted by Amigomio
    Doubt98 was here with us in Monterrey.

    Had a couple of very intresting lunches at Prestige Monday and Tuesday.

    Sorry we missed you Sean.
    AmigoMio,

    I am still in town until Friday. I am getting ready to head back out tonight. I'm not sure what your schedule allows for, but I should have tomorrow night free and all day Friday until my flight leaves @ 4:10pm. Would love to meet up with you if possible. But if not this trip, then certainly the next.

    SJ

  14. #1573
    Doubt98 was here with us in Monterrey.

    Had a couple of very intresting lunches at Prestige Monday and Tuesday.

    Sorry we missed you Sean.



    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Juan
    No hay problema. I'm not really an MP kind of guy anyway although I did pay Marcella and Romanos a visit on my last trip. I ended up heading to Pasareles(sp?) and found un poco diversion. It was pretty dead though, and I expected that. But I wasn't going to sit in my hotel room all night! Just got back from Infinito tonight, and I was surprised how busy it was for a Monday. And as always had a great time. Your map is like a lifeline for us mongers here in Monterrey and everyone that frequents this forum is truly in debt to you. I'm looking forward to the day that our paths may cross, so I can thank you properly. You are the man.

  15. #1572

    Thanks.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Amigomio
    Sean, your post was moderated to late.
    Precocious would have surely recomended Marsella.

    www.pompis.com.mx

    But it is true, Sundays MP's are D E A D
    No hay problema. I'm not really an MP kind of guy anyway although I did pay Marcella and Romanos a visit on my last trip. I ended up heading to Pasareles(sp?) and found un poco diversion. It was pretty dead though, and I expected that. But I wasn't going to sit in my hotel room all night! Just got back from Infinito tonight, and I was surprised how busy it was for a Monday. And as always had a great time. Your map is like a lifeline for us mongers here in Monterrey and everyone that frequents this forum is truly in debt to you. I'm looking forward to the day that our paths may cross, so I can thank you properly. You are the man.

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