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10-28-07 18:38 #941
Posts: 413The Presentation & The Dance
I was curious. Do the girl like to do the lineup (presentation) and the dance? I know they hang out by the DJ window and that's where you find them if you are looking for one. Between the men's bathroom and the privado entrance is where you will catch any girl of the girls. Ask Carlos. He knows.
But do they wait for their turn to dance and do they wait for the minute the line up starts? During the 10:30 pm presentation and by the end time, like 10:55 pm, the girls are so restless and gather around the stage steps ready to get off. They run from the stage to their lockers. That's when Wasted gets a wave of instants visits from the girls. So Cute.
I myself see the presentation a savior sometimes when I want the girl to leave or if I need to get a break and just be with my friends or by myself if I was alone. But other times, if I am enjoying a girl's company, I dread it and I dread the cost of 350 pesos if I wanted the girl to stay. Some have enough guts, or should I say are pushy enough?, to ask me "It's presentation time, should I go up or do you want to pay?" Those are usually the ones I do NOT want staying with me.
Last time thou, I had crazy S with me when the manager joined us and motioned the girl to go up. I motioned to him that "no, she is staying with me, you go up" :-) and I paid 300 pesos only. I guess I got a discount because sometimes they charge 350 or even 400.
So, again, the question is: Do the girls prefer to perform or stay on the ground hunting?
Wasted
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10-27-07 19:52 #940
Posts: 413I know. I know. What can I do? I have a weakness for a pretty face. Not to mention hot bodies.
Originally Posted by Carlos Perez
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10-27-07 18:40 #939
Posts: 1388Hello Mr. Cheese.... how's everything back home at Cheesy Springs???
Originally Posted by Wastedgman
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10-27-07 18:04 #938
Posts: 413I hate to sound cheesy but what the fluck.
I was with one of the girls at the Taboo club one night when the song 'Labios Compartidos' came on. For those of you who need a Spanish lesson, it is 'shared lips'. Talk about not wanting to share his lover with others. Anyways, so when this song came on, my girl looked at me with the sweetest eyes and sang a long to me inserting my name as in 'ya no puedo comparter tus labios, Wasted' When the song finished, she was still setting with her head to the ground. As I left up her head to see her face, I saw tears in her eyes.
y estoy aque boratcho y loco
y mi corazon idiota.
Wasted
Originally Posted by UnospongeBob
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10-27-07 17:51 #937
Posts: 1388Neither do I check my watch.
My reference is the 9:00 Pm line up and how many girls danced after your arrival up to the line up.
I didn't establish the reference... a place that goes on whether it rains, stars are out ,or shines outside must have it's own way of tracking time.
Originally Posted by Mastermind
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10-27-07 17:50 #936
Posts: 1383Absolutely...it is treatment given, not purchased. Mastermind purchased my "G" girl...fine, that is her business, and she is good at what she does, she treated him as a client...But, he did not get from her what she gives freely to me, and lovingly. There is such a huge difference. These guys will never get it, they are too thick to open their minds.
Originally Posted by Wastedgman
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10-27-07 17:46 #935
Posts: 413I have to agree with you Bob. Fully.
Even Carlos, the king of Monterrey, told me as I was strongly recommending he that samples one of my girl. He said that what I get from her is not the same she delivers to all the others. She gives me this special spice no one else gets.
You are correct. With these girls, we are like a special guest to them that they appreciate the opportunity to make us happy. Please us beyond plain 'delivery'. I never thought about it that way before. But now that you mentioned it, I guess you always did but I chose to ignore it, I see what you mean.
Not only from the girls. The royal treatment I get at the club I frequent, Prestige, Obsession and Infiniti, and El Cielo in my previous years, that treatment is earned, not bought.
Wasted
Originally Posted by UnospongeBob
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10-27-07 17:36 #934
Posts: 1383I have a very hard time explaining the difference to some of these guys between GFE that we routinely get from our best girls, and "service delivered," and for that relative commentary posted here, I am seen by them as weak, when in reality I am getting sooooo much more for my money.
The "sensitivities" that are misconstrued in me as weakness are the source of my schtick, and the thing in my approach to them that yields the GFE, and to include the hi-bred GFE when I am very lucky, such as with my "G" girl, and she is my "G" girl.
This sensitivity, the "anti-tough guy" approach, is the thing that permits me to get them for bargain prices, for 2,3,4, or 10 times the amount of time.
Oh well...hard heads will never prosper.
Originally Posted by Wastedgman
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10-27-07 17:31 #933
Posts: 413Power to you Bob.
Power to you Bob. I am more respectful of you now that I see grace from you. Way to go Bob. You da man.
And Mastermind dude. I can see you walking the sidewalks I frequent. You may as well have laid in on the same beds I so long had so many chicas, sometime 3 or 4. Many times with Mr. L in the next bad or Carlos with his hot Obsession girlfriend. Sweet memories and hot times. PDA rocks being so close to the clubs, a walking distance, and the hotel itself an authentic Mexican Otel. Be careful with the restaurant thu. They use way too much grease.
There is a girl at the Infinito who has returned after a long absence, her name is Stacy. You will not believe she is available at a place like Infinito. Go check her out. You can thank me later.
Be safe.
Wasted
Originally Posted by UnospongeBob
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10-27-07 16:47 #932
Posts: 1383Originally Posted by Mastermind
I know she gives good service, that is her reputation. But, her delivery to me exceeds her reputation signficantly, and her attentions are given without obligation on her part, there is huge difference then between what you received and what I routinely get.
There are a number of girls in my private stash that deliver good service. They do NOT compare with her approach to me. They are all capable of delivering good service, but some are motivated to do so by many other factors to give exceptional service, pulling from inside them to deliver beyond exceptional service because they want to, not because you are their John and they want to deliver the goods for reputation's sake.
If we get HI-Bred GFE, it is usually a function of "OUR" abilities, not their's...Draw your own conclusions about what your contributions to the "service" level might have been, but knowing her preferences, I doubt she remembers you either, except as a pain in her arse.
You will only experience your hos as hos, and never the depth of experience that I do, or the depth of experience that is potentially possibly from many of them, because you view them as hos, and I suspect with considerable contempt were I to psychoanalyze you just based on your demeanor here on ISG.
To me, she does not deliver just as a another ho out of a thousand. I don't know where you went wrong...well, actually, I do, but you wouldn't listen to my advice. I have known a thousand of them, all over the world, and she ain't among the majority of them with me. She probably occupies about the upper 3%. I guess it's the difference between me being in her bed and you being there. But, my expectation levels are higher than yours, and I suspect my results are also more rewarding.
I don't know where you went wrong, getting merely "good" service, delivered under some duress I might add, or at least needing to offer her further compensation to get her to agree, that from a girl who gives me everything I ever wanted and them some for peanuts. If I were in that same circumstance, I would not have to offer her anything, it would all come naturally...no money would have been discussed, and she would have been totally into it.
I don't know why you got "good service" and not outstanding Hi-Bred GFE. GFE is "given," and not "service delivered," there is a difference...GFE given willingly, longingly, lovingly...there is a huge difference. I don't expect you to understand...I doubt you've experienced it. But, as long as you're satisfied...I guess that's all we can expect from you.
Now, go find Cindy #1, Angry Girl, and whomever else you think you can use to make your feable attempts to aggravate me further. But, watch out for Cindy #1...she packs a blade.
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10-27-07 15:03 #931
Posts: 1383You're so welcome...and I'll make sure she knows you plastered her name all over the internet. Maybe she will believe that having her name plastered all over the internet will be good for business. There are conflicting opinions from the girls about that. Some like the referral value, and others become very angry at the prospect. I'll see what she thinks.
The truth is...she is outstanding compared to most girls. Your report simply verifies that my preference for her is more than just BS. She knows how to make love, and not just deliver sex. That is a rare commodity in Monterrey. I know, I have seen hundreds of girls there.
You must realize Mastermind, that I fully understand what she is, a ho. That's how I met her too. And, from those humble beginnings, I found a girl that I really prefer to all the others I've seen in Monterrey. It really doesn't matter though. If you think I am naive enough to really expect that she has not been doing salidas, or that she is not engaged in her business, you sorely underestimate my intelligence.
She always told me she was engaged in her business, especially within the club, I believe she was preparing to put a push on for salidas. She wants a change in her life, and she realizes that the money will get her where she wants to be. She told me that she especially needs to make the money now, and that our seeing each other with the exclusivity that she represented to me formerly was going to be something she could not adhere to now, and that it would not be a good thing for either of us to continue our "arrangement," assuming of course, that she was being discretionary to begin with.
She is a sweet girl, and she likes sex, and she also has a tender heart. If you knew more Spanish, you would understand the significance of that, and how enhanced your time with her would have been. However, I do think that her business is taking a toll on her, and that it incrementally has, over the last couple of years, and especially so since she got the fake boobs. That is the thing that is a shame, that her business, IMHO, has made her less of a good lover than she originally was when I found her in 2005. And, I don't really like her fake boobs...they turn me off frankly.
Perhaps now you can, after having actually seen and experienced her, understand the melancholy I feel for a girl of that quality spending her youth as a ho, when she could just as easily, under the right circumstances, be something entirely different. I just feel that her "talents" are a waste, and I have sampled almost all her competitors. It's a shame that she is not legitimately available to some "good" guy where she can actually be happy in life, something she desperately wants. Few girls have the ability to please that she does. Were she not a ho, she would be a great mistress. But, then, I know her well, the real girl, and not just as everybody's ho. So, I am honest about loving her for who she really is inside, and not just for that body, realizing of course that she has some tremendous personality defects that make her a ho. All that having been said, she is quite exceptional.
I believe though, that based on the content of my reports, I have gotten the very best from her, more than P4P, and I appreciate that from her. It is a gift from her to me, and not something I paid her for. I have commented many times before that what I have with her was, and is, not just sex, per se. We experience something on a different plane that what you described in your report. Yours is a description of she delivering, skillfully, and conscientously, what was promised in exchange for money. Her enjoyment of sex is inherent in her personality, and it is what makes her somewhat exceptional.
What I always thought was so extraordinary with respect to her treatment of me, and still believe it to be so, is that she gave herself to me beyond the sexual act. The sex with her was always outstanding, but there is more between us now. That is the reason you find me "gaga" over her. It has really little to do with the sex. I have had sex with her so much she is like a wife or girlfriend. There is simply something deeper between us that you will not probably comprehend because you are only operating within a mongering mindset. But, suffice it to say, you will never truly experience her "best" as I have.
She may have actually been honest with you with regard to the PDA. I don't stay there now, and haven't for about 2 years. But, she might have gone there with another monger. I don't remember her being familiar with it.
Thanks for the report, but it really doesn't accomplish for you what you had in mind. I am not naive. And, I know her affections for me are real because she has proven them over, and over again. So, because I am already committed in my real life, and because I always said that I would never legitimize a girl from her background, even if I could, which I can't, the realities of her job, fucking for money, really can't affect my real life.
One thing you will find my friend, is that you will not be able to forget her now. Mark my words, and if you find them to be true, that she is unforgetable, let me know in a PM. Actually, your post helps me reconcile my own indecision about whether to return, and to consider what kind of expectation I would have were I to return to MTY. You see, while her delivery of sex is excellent, the sex is not the underlying motivator for me, and there are other girls that are pretty good as far as the sex, some of my private stash, but none that gives me the range of emotion that she delivers. My dilemma is more one of returning to MTY only to disappointed by others after having come off a hi-bred GFE with my "G" girl, and not knowing to what extent my continuing to see her would prove to be as rewarding as before, given that she has a new and concentrated business strategy that seems to be driving her more seriously to earn as much money as she can as quickly as she can.
I don't really get your title...did you have a second session with a girl that was no good, ie: the "Starfish" reference? If so, please post those details as well. I know you said you have more to come...
Go find everybody elses girlfriends too. We should all have such a pleasant wakeup call. WastedG, Carlos...why spare them the gory details.
And, just a suggestion, my sincerely hoping you will at least consider it. Why not remove her real name from the title and body of your report? IMHO, you should really consider the disadvantages of having posted her name for your own best interests. By posting in synonyms you avoid making the girls angry with you when they find out what you did to them on the internet. Just a suggestion for when you come back. And, what purpose does it serve posting her name other than to get back at me. But, honestly, I am uneffected by it. I have had a number of stories relayed to me via PM about her activities. They come as no surprise.
Originally Posted by Mastermind
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10-24-07 18:45 #930
Posts: 413Drinks
I second that thought on drinks. Different girls drink differently. I have girls that drink only a single drink during their entire 1 or 1.5 hours with me while others down the drink and ask for another while the waiter is still writing down the order. It all depends. Some I tell to slow down, others I tell'em to take a hike and a couple I could care less what they drink. It all depends.
But all of the girls I see at the Obsession and Prestige have learned to slow the hell down or they are out instantly. I ain’t paying 100 or 120 pesos a minute. It all depends.
Keep in mind also that most of the girls at the low end clubs do NOT want drinks. They want to do dances where the meter is running non-stop. Those girls will ask you if you want to dance after or during the first drink. If they sense unwillingness on your part, they will say "A horita Vengo" (?) - "I'll be right back" which actually translates to "See ya".
Some of my regular girls tell me that upfront "Let me go make some money". They worry I might be offended while in fact I welcome the chance to be alone sometimes so I can gauge out other potentials. If I want them, I’ll ask for them.
Other girls will refuse to sit with you completely. You either take them for a dance or they go the next customer. I find those to be the least desirable. I MUST set with the girl and not be rushed whatsoever to get to know her first. Some I intentionally have them set with me and I ignore them to see how much effort they will put into pleasing me.
It all depends.
Wasted
Originally Posted by Carlos Perez
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10-24-07 18:18 #929
Posts: 1388I don't want to contradict my friend USB, but the Rapito is pointing out he wants to go to the expensive MPs like Misses, where the girls charge 2000 pesos.
Action there is different from the low priced MPs.
The 2000 peso price includes everything, specially a good attitude from the girl.
At Versace and Marsella, probably the word tip is not the correct one. The girls will ask for extra money to do extras up front and that should be like 200-400 pesos more, but the girls will quote how much they want before starting.
About SCs.... Several of USB observations do not considere some factors:
There are clubs, the 5 star clubs, where a tab is impossed and you can not avoid it.
The girls will drink their drinks at their own pace. There is no changing that. Again, if you go to the 5 star clubs, the girl must down their single drinks within the span of 2 songs.
If you go to the moderate priced clubs the girls there are more managable, but you are the final judge of the girl. If she is friendly and you like her, stick with her, pay her a couple of drinks and then take her for a couple of dances. If you still want her, stay with her.
This is a very difficult point cause it depends mostly on you. There are girls that will drink the first drink so fast you will think they never brought her one and after that, go slow on you.
There are to many variables on this....
Originally Posted by UnospongeBob
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10-24-07 17:17 #928
Posts: 1383Some of these recommendations will seem that they are for a real newbie...but you said you were a real newbie, so here goes. I know you said you would frequent MPs, and you will find much less of a potential for abuse there than in the strip clubs.
With the MPs, the main thing is to establish up front what you expect in return for their service, and to verify the price in advance of ever going to the room. If they try to scam you with add-ons, be firm, but realize that you should not be overly assertive or indignant. Always be very relaxed, and amiable, otherwise, you might find the cops at the door, or even worse, they might throw you out on your ear.
When you walk into an MP, the girls that are available will most likely be seated on couches, or they will be called into the room to do a line up. All will stand for your review, you will scan them over for about 60 seconds at most, and if you want a little longer to consider your options, then you can ask, as they are standing there, the price structure and time requirements. If you have special requests, ask it then to establish what it is you will be receiving, and to verify the price.
Some of the MPs may offer you the opportunity to have a drink so you can interview the girl and gawk at other prospects, but I am not sure which ones, and to what extent the lower to medium level MPs do so. I know that places like Misses and Romanos have that kind of selection environment, but I don't recall the price structure.
Remember that you will also be including a tip with an MP experience. I don't frequent the MPs, but I believe a 100 peso tip is customary in most of the lower to medium level MPs. In the case of high end MP's I suspect the anticipated tip will be slightly more, maybe 200 pesos. Carlos or Prok or somebody can verify that for you.
Here are some strip club pointers too...
1. In order not to stand out as a newbie, you need to dress appropriately so as not to stand out. So, when you visit the clubs, always wear some decent long pants, probably a collared shirt, a decent pair of shoes.
2. Never allow the waiters to run a tab in the clubs. Always pay for your drinks as you receive them, and attempt to give them as close to exact change, with tip, as possible. And, be very careful when you give currency to a waiter, some will accept a 200 peso bill for example, do a switch, and show you a twenty peso bill, intending for you to believe that you gave them a 20 pesos bill. Always, when you give them a bill, repeat to them what you are giving them. For example, repeat to them that you are giving them 200 pesos.
3. Pay in Pesos if possible, it is cheaper than giving them the relative equivalent in dollars. You will never receive change back according to the exchange rate, you will always receive pesos.
4. Wear a false pocket or money belt to contain all of your credit cards and cash. Maintain a minimum amount of cash money either in your pants pocket, or in your shirt pocket.
5. Never access your money belt in public, or even within the club where other will see you do so. Go into the men's room stall, or some other clandestined location, and get more cash out of your money belt if you need it.
6. Always, when you enter a taxi, make sure they have the meter on. Do not use taxis that run without the meter. You should always be able to go between the clubs for less than about 30 pesos one way, usually more like 20 pesos most of the time.
7. If you buy a drink for a girl, and she drinks it in less than ten minutes, dump her and move on to another. You likely selected a shark. You can also say something too her if you see her guzzling too fast. Some will back off if they think you will dump them as a result.
8. You will be asked to buy jarras (pitchers) by the girls within certain clubs. They usually run about 350 pesos ($35US), and they contain the equivalent of about three drinks. They are a relatively decent bargain if you're planning to buy several drinks for one Chica because a jarra is slighly cheaper than three drinks. But, you have to watch their consumption. The girls will possibly abuse you if they believe you are a newbie. Hold them to the equivalent of one drink every 15-20 minutes at least. You have a keeper if she sits for you for longer than 20 minutes and sips the remainder of her drink very slowly.
9. If you do not know Spanish, they will identify you immediately as a potential mark to be fleeced either with incorrect change, drinking too fast, short changing of time in the privados, etc...
10. With respect to being assertive, as mentioned before with the MPs, you can be firm in your convictions, but conduct yourself professionally with considerable decorum, and you should be fine if you have a dispute. If you do have a dispute, let it go, do not hang onto your pride. Once they pass judgement on the issue accept it. Just deal with it, chalk it off to experience, and I would suggest moving onto to other clubs where the likelihood of being taken advantage might be less.
Hope that gets you started...Let us know if you have any further questions. Have a good time.
Originally Posted by Rapito
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10-24-07 08:45 #927
Posts: 1388Rapito
I guess you have the links to Misses and Marecellas...
Add this one to your list:
http://www.romanosescort.com.mx/main.htm
(Misses little brother...)
and...
http://www.esteticaversace.com/
And speakiing frankly, no monger that visits Monterrey for MP action will go to the expensive ones... they are looking for a quick 20 dollar pop and nothing else.
And please Rapito: "I wouldn't mind paying 2000 pesos for fucking a young girl that looks like my come-from-a-rich-family coworkers"...
... you'll never find rich look alikes, upscale Colonia del Valle girls, at the MPs... let's stick with reality.
#1. Be yourself.
#2. When entering a MP, you'll be shown the girls.
#3. Someone will quote the prices. At upscale MP's the price quoted is the final price.
#4. Am not kidding, just pick a girl and she will take you to the room.
#5. At the upscale MPs, don't worry about being robbed (as a matter of fact, you won't be had at any MP)
#6. I don't do MPs, so I guess it's only Misses that offers drinks.
#7. Just point the girl you want (sorry, but it will have to be on the spot, no time for Q&A)
#8. You pay her.
#9. Once you pay her and if you chicken out, depending on the MP, you'll get your money back, but that takes making a small scene.... not always.
#10. Let me point out one thing.. if something goes wrong, something the girl doesn't like, something that goes beyond a small discussion... they might call the police.
#11. You MAY get ripped off.. but only if you pick a con artist that charges and doesn't deliver.
#12. Just take it easy and go... make your MP pick and go. Am sure you will have fun.
Ask your question Rapito...be glad to help you out...
Originally Posted by Rapito