Monterrey

[El Cabron 007]

Due to company activities, I have had to escort co-workers and clients to clubs here in USA lately. It was outstandingly awkward for me to be there. The guys are drooling and wooing going crazy over the girls while I just set there dreading that fact and every minute that I am in such a place.

Then we ended up in a dance club. I, again, enjoyed watching my 'friends' having a ball while I was thinking to myself 'how pathetic' is this.

Just like the movie 'Borat', the women can chose who they can dance and go to bed with? woo, that's not good for me.

The happiest moment for me was when they decided they have had enough and wanted to call it a night.

Might head down soon. Line'em up for me.

Wasted

[Member #3453]

If I am correct in my assumptions, those are the girls that stand in the doorway immediately outside of that hotel on the South side of the street that runs West between Madero and Colon from Pino Suarez, Pino Suarez being the same street the PDA is located on? Of course, I see the girls standing there all the time. That corner has been "staffed" for at least five years. I doubt they are generally in league with the cops because they are there all the time. I doubt they would sustain their business for the last five years on that same corner were the cops involved too much in shake downs. But, if it were going to occur, that IS the circumstance by which the cops could most definitely shake you down.

I have also heard they are "reasonable" in price, but I have never tried them out. I've always been warned to stay clear of them because they are just not GFE material. I have always anticipated that their service would be more akin to what I could obtain from the streetwalkers in my own town here in the US, and probably for about the same price, or maybe a little more for full service, but not much more.

I would put the US streetwalker in the same category as the room girls in the border towns. I've always suspected that they lack the "charm" I enjoy, are sometimes diseased, and I always feared that they are more likely to run a game on you, rob you, etc...than the girls I bar fine from the clubs.

Of course, the cost for streetwalkers in the US is a little more than the cost of room girls in the border towns and MTY, but if you factor in all the travel costs, hotel, airfare, bus fare, whatever, there is really no reason to make that trip unless the quality of selection is superior, and I mean far superior.

That isn't meant as a criticizm of someone who might choose to visit MTY or the border towns to see the room girls, but I just don't really understand the motivation. The same quality is available in the border towns, so why travel all the way to MTY? I can tell you that the quality of selection among the room girls in MTY is nowhere near what is available in the strip clubs there.

If your sessions were acceptable Ken T, you might also be interested in knowing that there are more of the same thing on the other side of the street. Almost directly across from the street you were on, about 40 feet in from the entrance of the flea markets. The girls stand outside a bar/hotel there along the alley parallel with the flea market booths. The girls are not usually anything I would particularly be attracted to, but I have noticed a couple that were doable. There have been only one or two over the course of the last five years that actually had me looking twice.

However, because I know my own preferences, I've never really pushed the envelope there, not even if I saw one that moderately attracted me. Frankly, I believe you would probably have slightly better experiences were you to partake with the massage parlor girls instead. Except, the cost there will probably run you at least 400-600 pesos, significantly more than what you paid.

I know I am paying a lot of money when I bar fine the girls from the strip clubs. I mean no offense when I say this, but they are considerably better looking than most of the room girls, and generally the club girls have charming personalities to match. I have always thought the room girls generally lacked in charm and personality, and of course they are not generally up to the standard of a stripper as far as looks. I see the room girls in MTY as being on more of a par with the room girls in the border towns, Nuevo Laredo, Reynosa, etc...

One other thing too that I have always liked about the club girls in MTY, and this is also true of the massage parlor girls as well, is that they are checked weekly by a doctor as part of their authorization to work. The room girls in MTY have no such safety net. I know 200 pesos is pretty tempting, but when you bar fine a club girl, or visit a massage parlor, both of which are more expensive, you're getting not only beauty, but charm, relative safety, and a measure of health insurance along with the additional cost.

That's the reason Carlos reacts that way when he hears that you went to the room girls. They are just a notch below our typical service providers, and none of us have really partaken there for fear that we will likely be comparatively disappointed.

Everything is relative to whatever is affordable for each individual. Don't take what I am about to say as some kind stuck-up "superiorizm." I fully understand when guys must, due to budgetary considerations, partake primarily in massage girls and room girls. But, I feel compelled to also point out that if room girls were the only thing you were able to find, and budgetary restrictions were not an issue, you have literally just clipped the slimy tip of the perverbial iceberg in MTY.

If the room girls is the extent of your experience in MTY, then I feel obligated to inform you that you have overlooked the club scene. Frankly, for a little more than what you paid for a session with a room girl, you could have had almost the same amount of fun, maybe more, with an absolutely gorgeous stripper in the privados (VIP booths) of the strip clubs.

Same street as PDA. Next to the Metro. Across from 7-11. Three different groups selling cuartos in that one block. Next to a Combia Dinero place. Hotel (green in color. Looked like a drive-in motel like Central America) on opposite end of block and around the corner. So PDA street, Metro and back toward PDA for one block, opposite side of street than PDA. There were 3 or 4 girls at each place. Anyways, most looked clean and were good to go for 200p. No con on the ones I had. Did not ask for more when in the "cuarto" Went there 3 times.

[MonterreyDude]

Am just going to say it in a few words: "oh my god!!!"
I can tell too you the nice way or the ugly way... which do you prefer?
It has to do in the sense that we see those girls here in Mexico opposite to the gringo way.

Same street as PDA. Next to the Metro. Across from 7-11. Three different groups selling cuartos in that one block. Next to a Combia Dinero place. Hotel (green in color. Looked like a drive-in motel like Central America) on opposite end of block and around the corner. So PDA street, Metro and back toward PDA for one block, opposite side of street than PDA. There were 3 or 4 girls at each place. Anyways, most looked clean and were good to go for 200p. No con on the ones I had. Did not ask for more when in the "cuarto" Went there 3 times.

[Ken Tucky]

Same street as PDA. Next to the Metro. Across from 7-11. Three different groups selling cuartos in that one block. Next to a Combia Dinero place. Hotel (green in color. Looked like a drive-in motel like Central America) on opposite end of block and around the corner. So PDA street, Metro and back toward PDA for one block, opposite side of street than PDA. There were 3 or 4 girls at each place. Anyways, most looked clean and were good to go for 200p. No con on the ones I had. Did not ask for more when in the "cuarto" Went there 3 times.

You'd had to point exactly where you saw them.
But any way, any girl that sells services on the street for unlawful carnal knowledge are not recomended at all.

[MonterreyDude]

You'd had to point exactly where you saw them.
But any way, any girl that sells services on the street for unlawful carnal knowledge are not recomended at all.

Oh. So the chicas selling cuartos are SW? I figured they were in cahoots with the hotel/motel they were renting from, not the policia. And they do not look like druggies. At least most of em. Same thing?

[Ken Tucky]

Oh. So the chicas selling cuartos are SW? I figured they were in cahoots with the hotel/motel they were renting from, not the policia. And they do not look like druggies. At least most of em. Same thing?

Ken, I would recomend not to get any SW for any service what so ever.

Street walkers here in Monterrey are like the ones in the USA: drug addicts, thieves. They can and will rob you even if you are aware they are doing it and many times, they are in cahoots with some corupt police officer on the beat.

[MonterreyDude]

Ken, I would recomend not to get any SW for any service what so ever.
Street walkers here in Monterrey are like the ones in the USA: drug addicts, thieves... they can and will rob you even if you are aware they are doing it and many times, they are in cahoots with some corupt police officer on the beat.

I am sorry that I scared you guys. What is that: "Dicretion is the first part of valour?" I am a sophisticated businessman. I would not bring a woman back to my hotel for any reason. I just read all the stuff you guys wrote on here and "assumed" there was something at the PDA that I was missing. I guess I am missing it, but only because I do not have a long-term relationship with those guys. I never inquired about any extra "services" from anyone at PDA, just went there to see what you guys "attraction" was for the place. Frankly, I'm really happy at Fastos. The girls on the street or masajes have all the "facilities" I would need. After all you do not pay them for their services, you pay them to leave. I know that there is no way there could ever be any "future" with any of those girls. To think otherwise is a big mistake. Like you (Bob) have pointed out, most are unstable on a number of different levels. I am a privileged man to have found such a place as MTY. Not many men find such a place ever in this life. I will be as discrete as possible, but I will not let any girl or any club take me for a dumb gringo. i.e. take advantage of me. After all, the prices in MTY are comparable to what it costs here in the states. The overall services are better in MTY. But still, IF they are going to charge comparable prices, I will not be tricked or conned. Thanks for the time you spent explaining the PDA situation Bob. I kinda assumed that was the case.

[Member #3453]

lets get one thing straight...it was not me at the best western!!! verdad! hahahaha :-) i think it was somebody who arranged for an **** girl to come in there, and that was the crux of the scandal, right? please!!! mi dios!!! i was not there...it was not me!

but, i remember one time when i was there and...

i actually had made arrangements with three girls during the first part of the week to eventually meet me at the hotel. now, listen...

you know how the girls will ditch you, how they will not show up most of the time, and how most of the time they are unreliable, etc...

you know??? that's why paying the salidas is a valuable service, and a very reliable alternative. by paying the salida to the bar, you have them captured. you don't have to rely on the discipline level of a mexican bar girl to actually conduct your business. if you pay the salida, you have them in your clutches, at least for a while, and they aren't going to forget to show up, or give some bs excuse that their kid is sick and they can't come over, etc...

for a time, i was trying to avoid paying the salidas, and i decided that i would arrange to meet the girls outside the clubs on their off time. there is profitability is doing so because by avoiding the salida cost, 350 pesos per session, within a short period of only two bar fines, you have almost enough saved to pay for another session.

avoiding salidas works sometimes, but rarely, maybe only about 30% of the time at best. even if the girls are really good friends, even if they know you very well, even if they love you to death...no importa!!! mexican bar girls are too screwed-up to be disciplined enough to show up at the appointed time. they are generally extremely unreliable in their lives, not only in that respect, but in many other respects as well.

frankly, as a relatively mature male, i have made certain conclusions about women at this juncture that some may find disturbing. but, this actually illustrates how little women actually give a shit about sex. even when they are being paid an outrageous wage in comparison to their peers, peers that work their asses off in the mexican labor force, the girls still don't care that not only are they getting paid an outrageous wage for the short time they will have invested, but they are usually also getting the sexual enjoyment that we as males would undoubtedly provide for free were the shoe on the other foot.

oh, most women love sex in the moment...but, unless you have your tongue on their clits, or you are grinding into them with a fevered pitch, they are otherwise oblivious to the future anticipation for pleasure that sex otherwise brings for males. there is some statistic somewhere that we males think of sex every six minutes. i think there are women that can get by without thinking about sex, absolutely no sex, for literally months on end. some women have no contemplation for sex throughout their normal day, week, month...year? the lack thereof, the lack of any contemplation for sexual gratification, has absolutely no adverse effects on the female psche.

so, guys, just remember, girls don't really give a shit, not in comparison to the male labido, about sex. just a philosophical glimpse into the mind of the usb.

unfortunately, unless you find a real nympho, which i have only experienced maybe 25% of the time in my "career," if that much, you will find that they are generally not nearly as "interested" in sex as we are. that is why they don't show up to make one hundred times the amount that they would otherwise make if they were just working the desk in one of the hotels, sweeping floors, cleaning toilets, etc...

don't believe me? lets analyze it. the girls make 1000 pesos for 1.5 hours if you bar fine them from el infinito. the total salida is 1350 pesos, and 350 pesos goes to the bar. the girl keeps 1000 pesos, all she can eat if you take her to dinner, and all she can drink if you buy her booze. how much does the average laborer in mexico make in wages?

there are three wage zones in mexico. the average of the three zones shows the average daily wage in mexico is currently about mx$48.70 per day, which is approximately $4.80us per day, which is approximately forty-eight cents (us) per hour. also keeping in mind that the work day in mexico is much longer than the work day in the us. i am averaging the work day for these calculations to be approximately 10 hours a day for mexican workers. i know that many mexican laborers are very hard workers, sunup to sundown. but for this analysis, we'll use an average of ten hours per day for simplicities sake.

that means, if these statistics are correct, that the girls would be making 666 pesos per hour, $66us per hour, at least 660 times the average labor rate per hour. now, i realize that we're averaging labor rates across the whole of mexico, and that labor rates in mty are significantly higher than the interior states. but, that's why i adjusted my average quoted above to reveal that the girls are making at least 100 times the average labor rate, in order to account for the higher wages in mty proper.

i think this assessment is, frankly, very generous. the average is probably much higher if you compare the professional skill level of the girls with respect to the average laborer in mexico. the girls are mostly uneducated, unskilled professionally, and have very little to offer beyond basic skills otherwise, notwithstanding their female skills of course.

the girls, afterall, are not physicians...although, i do sometimes think of them as socially denegrated nurses, verdad? so, with that kind of incentive, if they fail to showup for outcalls, what other kind of conclusions can we be expected to reach as a result of their choosing not to show up.

compared to males that would undoubtedly show up "free of charge," it is blatantly obvious that they are also unmotivated by the prospect of making ten times the going labor rate, and nor are they sufficiently impressed with the prospect of having sex, austensibly having sex with guys that practice it to perfection, and can deliver it with skill, we mongers. of course, i suppose if you are a twenty years old brad pitt, you might have a better result. but, frankly, i don't believe that the girls are any more reliable with respect to outcalls as it relates to my previously quoted percentages of success. certainly, if i had the prospect of making one hundred times my going wage rate in the us, i would probably be willing to consider the prospect of sex with even somebody so nasty as rosey o'donnell.

romance? affection? communication? caring? friendship? carressing? kissing? yes...but, sex takes a back seat to most of these other things for women, imho. unfortunately, this financial analysis reveals the stark reality that our egos as males compell us to ignore. this financial analysis illustrates the huge gulf that exists between men and women. men and women really are wired totally differently. if you finally become enlightened to this reality, it will help you understand them better, and it will even assist you in getting in their pants with more success.

anyway, i digress...i felt the need to rant!!!

back to my best western story...

well, you know??? during my salida busting days, during the course of a particular week, i had lined up a number of girls thinking that i would play the percentages. i figured i would play the odds hoping that at least one of them would come through. the problem is, they all came through on the same day...oh shit!!!

the desk clerk was becoming visibly disturbed by the time the third one actually showed up. he actually mouthed to me something like "another one?" ...sweat accumulating on his brow, a scrunched up forehead, as number three was arriving, hahahaha!!!!! i just shrugged my shoulders, grinned a big "dumb gringo," and acted like..."que, no aye problema?"

fortunately, the girls didn't show up all at the same time or i would have either had a really great time, or a huge cat fight. but, the fact is, by the time the third one showed up, i was spent. i mean, i had trouble making it happen in the room. i remember, this particular third girl was one of my long time girlfriends from el obsession, and she commented a couple of times to me. she seemingly said something like..."how many today?"...something like that. but, she was finally successful, so i am proud that my performance was not particularly poor. i just wished she had showed up the next day, or even two days later.

the funny thing was, the male clerk at the best western, the one that became visibly disturbed, used to actually work at pda. he recognized me from having stayed at pda in the past. i think i gave him a small propina after that happened just to keep him on my good side. after i tipped him, i think the wheels started to turn in his head, and he was a little more receptive to the "possibilities."

when you hear me always preaching about our having to use discretion, it comes from my own personal stupid mistakes.

it also happened to the best western madero where unspongebob used to stay.
had a sex scandal within their premises and that was the day they stopped allowing lady visitors to the rooms at night.

[Doubt98]

I stay a couple of blocks down the street at the PDA express. If you are a regular you might be able to negotiate a better price. It is clean and quiet. It seems to be truly a business hotel. I rarely see kids but I do see a ton of business people. The attendants at the front desk are very accomodating. BUT I have never brought a girl back. Like Unospongebob refered to, the girls have turned into friends and it would almost feel like you were disappointing them. At least in my mind it would. They probably couldn't care less.
I have stayed at Fastous (sp?) and it is a nice hotel and probably more centrally located if you are walking. But, I prefer the service and recognition at the other.

[El Cabron 007]

I am pleased to see USB's and Carlos' posts on PDA. The hotel is clearly family and group kinda place. My breakfasts are usually in the restaurant, if I am solo in the morning. The tables are usually occupied by a father, a mother and a couple of kids. Otherwise, it is a basketball team or something similar.

If I have girl still with me in the morning, I order breakfast in the room. I will not take them to the restaurant because it would look nasty.

I am seriously thinking of limiting my activities to the clubs and cutting down on salidas for a while.

Wasted

I recently received a private message request to elaborate my thoughts about Monterrey, and how it stacks up in comparison to other venues. I think there are a few issues that might need clarification to help everyone understand the scene in Monterrey.

Monterrey is a totally different mongering venue than Pattaya, Thailand, or AC, Philippines, etc... Even TJ, Mexico, is a totally different kind of environment than MTY. All of the aforementioned places are "in your face." Everybody understands why you're there. They accomodate our activities regardless of whether we choose to flaunt them or not.

I have to admit that I'm fearful that if we're all not EXTREMELY discrete at PDA, we will have one less clean, comfortable, reasonably priced (?), "accomodating," GFE hotel to rely on.

Frankly, certain ones of us would not probably be bothered, myself, WastedG, Mr. L, Carlos, etc... We are known to Orlando, and we would undoubtedly receive special consideration. Afterall, we would be "grandfathered," as it were.

But, those of you coming to MTY in the future might find a very different reaction to your desire to bring girls to your room. So, use the utmost discretion in Monterrey, whether you choose to stay at PDA or not.

[Ken Tucky]

I am sorry that I scared you guys. What is that: "Dicretion is the first part of valour?" I am a sophisticated businessman. I would not bring a woman back to my hotel for any reason. I just read all the stuff you guys wrote on here and "assumed" there was something at the PDA that I was missing. I guess I am missing it, but only because I do not have a long-term relationship with those guys. I never inquired about any extra "services" from anyone at PDA, just went there to see what you guys "attraction" was for the place. Frankly, I'm really happy at Fastos. The girls on the street or masajes have all the "facilities" I would need. After all you do not pay them for their services, you pay them to leave. I know that there is no way there could ever be any "future" with any of those girls. To think otherwise is a big mistake. Like you (Bob) have pointed out, most are unstable on a number of different levels. I am a privileged man to have found such a place as MTY. Not many men find such a place ever in this life. I will be as discrete as possible, but I will not let any girl or any club take me for a dumb gringo. i.e. take advantage of me. After all, the prices in MTY are comparable to what it costs here in the states. The overall services are better in MTY. But still, IF they are going to charge comparable prices, I will not be tricked or conned. Thanks for the time you spent explaining the PDA situation Bob. I kinda assumed that was the case.

I recently received a private message request to elaborate my thoughts about Monterrey, and how it stacks up in comparison to other venues. I think there are a few issues that might need clarification to help everyone understand the scene in Monterrey.

Monterrey is a totally different mongering venue than Pattaya, Thailand, or AC, Philippines, etc..a. Even TJ, Mexico, is a totally different kind of environment than MTY. All of the aforementioned places are "in your face." Everybody understands why you're there. They accomodate our activities regardless of whether we choose to flaunt them or not.

Fact is, those venues, are solely based on mongering. That is NOT the case in Monterrey. It is a much more "underground" kind of thing. So, please keep that foremost in your mind if you're planning to visit Monterrey. Otherwise, you may be significantly disappointed. With the scene being "underground" comes additional responsibility on our parts. It requires you to conduct yourself with significantly more discretion than what we may be used to in other venues.

Five years ago, PDA was just another privately owned downtown hotel, one that was relatively obscure, fighting for its survival, thankful to have guests, vacancies usually available, even on weekends, etc...

That has all changed!

Five years ago, there was significantly less objection at PDA to our kinds of activities going on there. At one point, the desk clerk was actually pimping girls. But, even then, it was only late at night, and it was done with considerable secrecy. He did not flaunt it in any way. He was very discrete, and he only offered the service if he knew you.

After PDA merged with Proxima Hotels, they experienced significant growth after the merger. Needless to say, shortly after the merger, the pimping desk clerk was history. They began to make a conscious effort to maintain a more legitimized image.

Don't misunderstand, their public image was always legitimized, and there was always an effort to maintain a "clean" image with respect to their reputation. These days, they're marketing plan is even stricter than five years ago, with much more "family oriented," marketing ( ie: families, kids, college functions, high schools, business travelers, even numerous female business travelers, etc...)

I have to admit that I'm fearful that if we're all not EXTREMELY discrete at PDA, we will have one less clean, comfortable, reasonably priced (?), "accomodating," GFE hotel to rely on.

Orlando is a savy dude, and I believe he will permit us to continue these activities, but only if we DO NOT threaten the image of his hotel. At this juncture, on very rare occassion, a girl that you might see in the hallway in passing, will make a pass for the obvious reasons. But, that's a VERY, VERY, RARE occurence these days, and it's certainly nothing that is sanctioned by PDA, nor is it promoted by them.

It is very important that I make something very clear. Orlando is strictly a legitimate businessman. He will assist you logistically in any way. But, he might actually be offended at anyone openly soliciting him about our kinds of activities. Such an occurrence may even put him on notice that it's time for him to clamp down.

Frankly, certain ones of us would not probably be bothered, myself, WastedG, Mr. L, Carlos, etc... We are known to Orlando, and we would undoubtedly receive special consideration. Afterall, we would be "grandfathered," as it were.

But, those of you coming to MTY in the future might find a very different reaction to your desire to bring girls to your room. So, use the utmost discretion in Monterrey, whether you choose to stay at PDA or not.

All the hotels in MTY are going to see your activities in the same way, and the clerks and security staff do not want their jobs on the line.

As for the girls at the desk, in the past, there have been a couple of girls working there that are attractive, cute, friendly, funny, helpful, etc...I have a few girls there that are friends, and some of them may even suspect that I am up to something on my visits to MTY...they aren't stupid...but...

They do not have any direct knowledge of my activities. I am very discrete. The desk girls are all legitimate working girls. If they do suspect the nature of my true reason for being in MTY, it is because they have normal female suspicions, but most of them have no direct knowledge that I am up to anything. There have been a few that work the night shift that have seen me bring a girl back, but I have made friends of them. Certainly, they know what I'm up to, but they have accepted the "Dumb Gringo."

They have always acted friendly toward me, but I believe it's strictly because they've known me a long time, and I've formed friendships with them. Plus they know they will never, ever, recieve another homemade cookie were they to treat me badly. So, I am virtually untouchable...just kidding. They have accepted me per se. But, were I to flaunt my activities, I suspect their attitudes toward me would change significantly.

Frankly, it's one reason I changed hotels. I was becoming too well known for my own comfort level. Enough time has passed now that I would probably be virtually unknown to most of the desk girls on duty during the day, except for the office staff. I changed hotels primarily because the majority of the staff at PDA is primarily female at night. WastedG says I should come back, but Orlando would probably have to put on male night clerks in order for me to consider making a change back to PDA at this juncture.

So, I changed hotels about a year ago. I prefer to sneak girlfriends past a male night clerk and up to my room than to suffer the walk of shame in front of a twenty year old girl, even if she is a friend of mine. But, even then, even if I were to take a girlfriend past a female night clerk, I would be extremely discrete. I don't want any of them to get any heat over allowing my kinds of activities.

As Carlos mentioned, there are a handful of "accepting" hotels in MTY. Frankly, with most of the hotels that are similar in type and size to PDA, I suspect you could sneak a girl past the night clerks, and if done discretely, I doubt you would have a problem doing it one time. But, if you try that night after night, wild orgies, two or three girls at a time, two or three girls a day, similar to what you get away with in Pattaya or AC, you will NOT be welcome in the hotels of MTY. Just a word to the wise.

[Member #3453]

I recently received a private message request to elaborate my thoughts about Monterrey, and how it stacks up in comparison to other venues. I think there are a few issues that might need clarification to help everyone understand the scene in Monterrey.

Monterrey is a totally different mongering venue than Pattaya, Thailand, or AC, Philippines, etc... Even TJ, Mexico, is a totally different kind of environment than MTY. All of the aforementioned places are "in your face." Everybody understands why you're there. They accomodate our activities regardless of whether we choose to flaunt them or not.

Fact is, those venues, are solely based on mongering. That is NOT the case in Monterrey. It is a much more "underground" kind of thing. So, please keep that foremost in your mind if you're planning to visit Monterrey. Otherwise, you may be significantly disappointed. With the scene being "underground" comes additional responsibility on our parts. It requires you to conduct yourself with significantly more discretion than what we may be used to in other venues.

Five years ago, PDA was just another privately owned downtown hotel, one that was relatively obscure, fighting for its survival, thankful to have guests, vacancies usually available, even on weekends, etc...

That has all changed!

Five years ago, there was significantly less objection at PDA to our kinds of activities going on there. At one point, the desk clerk was actually pimping girls. But, even then, it was only late at night, and it was done with considerable secrecy. He did not flaunt it in any way. He was very discrete, and he only offered the service if he knew you.

After PDA merged with Proxima Hotels, they experienced significant growth after the merger. Needless to say, shortly after the merger, the pimping desk clerk was history. They began to make a conscious effort to maintain a more legitimized image.

Don't misunderstand, their public image was always legitimized, and there was always an effort to maintain a "clean" image with respect to their reputation. These days, they're marketing plan is even stricter than five years ago, with much more "family oriented," marketing ( ie: families, kids, college functions, high schools, business travelers, even numerous female business travelers, etc...)

I have to admit that I'm fearful that if we're all not EXTREMELY discrete at PDA, we will have one less clean, comfortable, reasonably priced (?), "accomodating," GFE hotel to rely on.

Orlando is a savy dude, and I believe he will permit us to continue these activities, but only if we DO NOT threaten the image of his hotel. At this juncture, on very rare occassion, a girl that you might see in the hallway in passing, will make a pass for the obvious reasons. But, that's a VERY, VERY, RARE occurence these days, and it's certainly nothing that is sanctioned by PDA, nor is it promoted by them.

It is very important that I make something very clear. Orlando is strictly a legitimate businessman. He will assist you logistically in any way. But, he might actually be offended at anyone openly soliciting him about our kinds of activities. Such an occurrence may even put him on notice that it's time for him to clamp down.

Frankly, certain ones of us would not probably be bothered, myself, WastedG, Mr. L, Carlos, etc... We are known to Orlando, and we would undoubtedly receive special consideration. Afterall, we would be "grandfathered," as it were.

But, those of you coming to MTY in the future might find a very different reaction to your desire to bring girls to your room. So, use the utmost discretion in Monterrey, whether you choose to stay at PDA or not.

All the hotels in MTY are going to see your activities in the same way, and the clerks and security staff do not want their jobs on the line.

As for the girls at the desk, in the past, there have been a couple of girls working there that are attractive, cute, friendly, funny, helpful, etc...I have a few girls there that are friends, and some of them may even suspect that I am up to something on my visits to MTY...they aren't stupid...but...

They do not have any direct knowledge of my activities. I am very discrete. The desk girls are all legitimate working girls. If they do suspect the nature of my true reason for being in MTY, it is because they have normal female suspicions, but most of them have no direct knowledge that I am up to anything. There have been a few that work the night shift that have seen me bring a girl back, but I have made friends of them. Certainly, they know what I'm up to, but they have accepted the "Dumb Gringo."

They have always acted friendly toward me, but I believe it's strictly because they've known me a long time, and I've formed friendships with them. Plus they know they will never, ever, recieve another homemade cookie were they to treat me badly. So, I am virtually untouchable...just kidding. They have accepted me per se. But, were I to flaunt my activities, I suspect their attitudes toward me would change significantly.

Frankly, it's one reason I changed hotels. I was becoming too well known for my own comfort level. Enough time has passed now that I would probably be virtually unknown to most of the desk girls on duty during the day, except for the office staff. I changed hotels primarily because the majority of the staff at PDA is primarily female at night. WastedG says I should come back, but Orlando would probably have to put on male night clerks in order for me to consider making a change back to PDA at this juncture.

So, I changed hotels about a year ago. I prefer to sneak girlfriends past a male night clerk and up to my room than to suffer the walk of shame in front of a twenty year old girl, even if she is a friend of mine. But, even then, even if I were to take a girlfriend past a female night clerk, I would be extremely discrete. I don't want any of them to get any heat over allowing my kinds of activities.

As Carlos mentioned, there are a handful of "accepting" hotels in MTY. Frankly, with most of the hotels that are similar in type and size to PDA, I suspect you could sneak a girl past the night clerks, and if done discretely, I doubt you would have a problem doing it one time. But, if you try that night after night, wild orgies, two or three girls at a time, two or three girls a day, similar to what you get away with in Pattaya or AC, you will NOT be welcome in the hotels of MTY. Just a word to the wise.

Carlos,

Sorry I missed you guys. I would have loved to hung with you. Lord knows I tried to find some compadres. Next trip I'll let you know I'm on my way and try to hook up. I'm still curious about the attraction at PDA? I went there 3 times and talked with the desk clerks. Orlando was never there, so I did not get the low down. Is there action there? hmmm, I have had very sweet dreams this week. Thanks for all the info.

[MonterreyDude]

Ken, please be aware that the Plaza del Arco is just a normal hotel, one that is adequate and well place for mongering.
Do not even think for a second there is action there.
I am openly and with all due respect going to tell you, do not even try to hit on the girls at the front desk or you might ruin one of the few remaining girl friendly hotels here in Monterrey (there are no more than 4 now).

Carlos,

Sorry I missed you guys. I would have loved to hung with you. Lord knows I tried to find some compadres. Next trip I'll let you know I'm on my way and try to hook up. I'm still curious about the attraction at PDA? I went there 3 times and talked with the desk clerks. Orlando was never there, so I did not get the low down. Is there action there? hmmm, I have had very sweet dreams this week. Thanks for all the info.

[Ken Tucky]

Carlos,

Sorry I missed you guys. I would have loved to hung with you. Lord knows I tried to find some compadres. Next trip I'll let you know I'm on my way and try to hook up. I'm still curious about the attraction at PDA? I went there 3 times and talked with the desk clerks. Orlando was never there, so I did not get the low down. Is there action there? hmmm, I have had very sweet dreams this week. Thanks for all the info.

Mmmm

Both WastedG and me were there at the Infinito. Sorry we missed you.

Yes, the Infinito is on a straight line from the Fastos and beware of taxi drivers in the sense that they will play dumb, say they don't know where the club is and take you to clubs where they get kickbacks.

And yes, mO\any girls were no there this weekend, including Tangalay and all the rest of the SCs.

The girls opt for a well deserved vacation, as we should also...

[MonterreyDude]

Mmmm
Both WastedG and me were there at the Infinito... sorry we missed you.
Yes, the Infinito is on a straight line from the Fastos and beware of taxi drivers in the sense that they will play dumb, say they don't know where the club is and take you to clubs where they get kickbacks.
And yes, many girls were no there this weekend, including Tangalay and all the rest of the SCs.
The girls opt for a well deserved vacation, as we should also...

I visited MTY this past weekend. Thanks to everyone who provided all the info for a successful journey. It's only an $88 bus ride (round-trip) from here to there. I arrived early Friday morning. The clerk at the PDA told the that there were no rooms available even though I had called the day before and was assured there were plenty of rooms. Even better, because Fastos was better and $10 cheaper. It took me about 12 hours to find the "I" that was just under my nose. My taxi told me the clubs were 10 blocks North when in fact they were 4 blocks east. "I" was packed on Friday night when I arrived, so I visited Tangalay. I had a great time there, but my understanding of "great time" is realative to my experiences in other places. As I found out later, I had a greater time on Sat and Sun. I have never seen anything like MTY. You guys are saying that the numbers are down and the scale is low because of the holiday? I cannot wait to return when the numbers and the scale is up. Dios Mio! Thanks for all the info. I cannot wait to return.