Morelia

[Mexican Perro]

I love to read all these posts. It is very interesting for a Mexican Macho like me to read American opinion of the mongering scene in Morelia. Honestly sometimes gringos have more information than us! I expect to read the forum again.

Happy New Year and be safe!

[Dollar Bill]

Happy New Years to all!!!

Well, I had an invitation to visit a ranch in Zitacuaro for New Year's weekend so I was in Michoacan. Since I had Friday, Monday, and Tuesday off work, I decided to stop by Morelia on Friday day/night, Saturday day mongering experience.

I re-read some of Mill Just's reports and decided to stop by Massage Sharron. I had a couple of names that he had mentioned. (Monse y Vanessa). I also had the address (with Colonia) and phone number in case I got lost. I found it with some help from a guy on the street.

I entered and Melissa showed me back to the rooms. I asked her about having a session with that cute girl in front. She was a little displeased because I did not choose her, but I guess she got used to it.

The cute girl was named Vanessa and was very cute and sweet. I got a message and a little oral from her. She said that it was a bad time of the month for her but if I wanted full service, a very cute girl was coming in (name held in privacy). I said no problem as I only wanted oral from Vanessa anyway (butt looked too big for my liking but her face was really cute and she was soooooo sweet).

Vanessa finished me off, and cleaned me up. About 10 minutes later (while still waiting in the room), the other girl showed up and was just the way I liked them. I thought she had the ass to die for. We got along great and did the full service session and I left finding my love (lust) for the weekend.

I went back to the hotel (Hotel Alameda (down near the big church)). Got cleaned up and went back down to where I had seen the street walkers hanging out. That was about 6:30 PM and they only wanted 270 pesos. I did not see anything that looked better than my 2nd girl so I went back to the Message Sharron place and choose her again. Had another Full Service with her. Finished up and got her phone number to get a Saturday AM service in my hotel. When I called, there was no answer (She had a party to go on Friday night so I figured she was still sleeping).

I called an escort service called "Nuevo Imagen" (phone number 156-4697) and asked for an "Ejecutivo" (or Model). I asked if the girl would stop at the reception or come straight up to the room? She said straight up to the room. She said the girl would be there in 1/2 hour. She showed up after 1 hour and did NOT make it to the room. The receptionist called me and wanted to charge me a guest fee for the girl. I went downstairs, saw the girl and gave her $100 Pesos for the taxi. I blamed it on the extra room charge, but it was really that the girl was not even a step below the Ejecutivo level. She was 2 steps below. I called the service and complained that the level of beauty was really low. She said that the other girls did not answer and that is why she had to send the other girl. I told her I was not pleased as I had to wait for so long for nothing.

As I had taking a Viagra before the ugly girl showed up, I did not want to waste it. I checked out and headed back to Massage Sharron. Monse answered the door. Normally, this girl is NOT my type of girl (bigger frame not fat but just bigger than I like), but I figured since she had been mentioned by name, I would give her a try. I told her that I was only interested in oral. She said that her price was a little higher ($550) for that and that condom was necessary. I was not turned on by Monse and even the Viagra did help me too much. When time was about up, I told her that was enough and I got cleaned up.

I still had Viagra in my blood and I wanted to use it before I went to Zitacuaro (where I knew I would not get laid) (ALMOST ALWAYS UGLY P4P GIRLS THERE).

I found my way to Hotel Caribe (on the Periferico on the north side near the strip joints). I had called another service (Diosas Prohibidas - 165-6534) on my cell phone before getting there and asked about a model type of girl. I was NOT disappointed again as the girl that showed up was a 9 1/2 in my book. Pretty face, beautiful body, and very sweet. Cost was 1000 pesos + 100 taxi.

We had a great session and was working on session number 2 when the hour was up. I had to get going to Zitacuaro so I did not opt for the second hour. 2 hour session was $1500.

$Bill

[TeddyBoy]

Any thoughts from anyone on how we could get him back?

I know Jackson. I have stayed in his Beunos Aries/ Recoleta apartment. I enjoyed having dinner with him on several occassions, meeting a few of his many friends and visiting his private Mansion. I have always regarded Jackson with respect and appreciation for the time and information he personally shared with me during my stay. This is beyond the obvious fact that he runs a truly outstanding world class website that is a terrific value. I continue to benefit greatly from the information on his forum.

I also know Mill Just. In fact, I am currently in Morelia and he has shown himself to be a thoughtful and generous man with his time and assistance.
His ISG posts have been a wonderful resource for preparation for my trip and he has shared additional information since I have been hanging out with him.

Frankly........I can't make sense of this issue. As I listened to Mill Just, he seems unclear as to the root of this issue. In fairness, I have not spoken to Jackson regarding this problem. So I don't know his side of the story.

What I do know is that these are two good men who, in my opinion, have the very best interests of the members of ISG at heart. I do wish that there could be an amiable resolution.

[Tiny 12]

I guess this thread is going to dry up and go away without Mill Just. I never noticed anything antagonistic in his posts. So I'm not sure why his posting privileges were limited and why he left.

Any thoughts from anyone on how we could get him back?

[Dollar Bill]

Hi all,

I am an occasional contributor/reader to this thread as I only catch up/post on it when I travel there from Qro.

It is on my radar to travel to Morelia soon and I hope, meet up with Mill Just. I have been reading his info on this thread for sometime now and always loved reading what he had to say.

Anyway... I have been in contact with Mill Just (off this board) and he wanted to me to pass along this message to you all... THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE THAT HAVE READ HIS REPORTS AND BECAME VIRTUAL FRIENDS WITH HIM ON THIS BOARD.

It is sad that he is not on the ISG board any longer but if you would like to be in contact with him, send ME a PM and I will pass it along to him and also provide to you a way to contact him. He has authorized me doing this for him.

I have asked him for help for my next trip there and I will give you all an update once I return from my trip. Some of the information will be held in confidence but I will share whatever info I can.

Take care all and enjoy the life!

$Bill

PS - His wish is to still help out those that desire his help.

[Ardy1473]

Is Bar La Playa still around?? If it is, is it still bien chingon? I'll be in Morelia in early February and hope to visit there. That juke box was kick ass!

[TeddyBoy]

I have attempted to write you several times but your mail box is full amigo.

I will be arriving in Morelia December 30 and leaving the end of February. I've got an apartment lined up and would like to buy you dinner for all the great posts you have contributed here.

[Mill Just]

Good Luck. I hate to rain on anybody's parade, but if you're talking about Southern Mexico, the further South you go, the more horrible the mongering scene. Be ready to pay through the nose for sub-par chicas. You may even want to ditch the idea of mongering in Southern Mexico and try to work the non-pro angle. That's how bad things may get...

Have Fun,

Mill

Change of plans I'm headed further south. Thanks for all the input. Continued success.

Eze

[Ezerider]

Change of plans I'm headed further south. Thanks for all the input. Continued success.

Eze

[Ezerider]

Dude, man Mill, you're a walking talking book of info. About the mongering scene aren't you? ! Cool to know you, maybe in Morelia we could hook up. In the meantime I'll be studying in Patzcuaro for a few weeks, but with some trips to Morelia no doubt.

I have no worries that I won't be perceived as a preserved 41 year old--well, maybe some, but I do hit the gym and pool regularly. Speaking of which, are those good spots to score?

Got to keep this one brief. I'll inquire more later.

Eze

[Mill Just]

Eze,

The chicas worth hanging with (i.e. the classy escort-types) are usually working in the services incognito and their families have no idea what they do. But there is no weirdness factor in "dating" an older man. So, given that you hit it off, there is no problem with hanging together at a club or at the movies- especially if you are a well-preserved 41 year old. A much older guy will not see as much "after hours" action just because it is much more difficult to justify being seen with such an old fart without it looking like she is a working girl.

In my case, I'm a young-looking 37 year old who still has a taste for pop music and modern culture. I have dated escorts as young as 19 and nothing was ever thought about it. There have been a couple of times where I've actually picked a chica up at her house for a date and met with her family or friends. Nothing out of the ordinary. However, as I said, if I were a 55 year old picking up the chica at her house, I would look like a john and she would look like a sexoservidora. In that case, age does indeed matter.

Now, once you find a chica that you fancy, and given that she likes you and/or she is single, you can ask her out for a social outing. If you want to pay that's fine, but I have been invited out to eat or to go dancing after sessions quite a few times, all free of charge. If you feel that you have special chemistry with a particular chica, invite her out to one of the exclusive dance clubs or to a high-profile concert or to any other place that might be hard for her to reject. A simple invitation to the hotel or neighborhood bar may allow you to get to know her better. You may have to pay the first time, but if there is any chemistry between you whatsoever, be sure that the next time will be free- especially for a generous, decent looking and charismatic gringo.

However, be aware that you might have to go through a few chicas before you find that perfect "date worthy" escort. But when you do, you now have your foot in the front door and a very good networking opportunity to know other quality chicas without having to do all the grunt work (after all, you will now be deemed a good guy within your chica's personal circle of hot escorts.) Many times a special escort will even give you the low down on all of her friends and offer them to you along with perfect physical descriptions and psychological profiles. But you will have to do your work before you can get into their inner circle and you need to prove that you are a good, honorable and generous guy who won't embarrass them in a social outing.

For the classiest chicas in Morelia, I recommend Elegance or New Imagen. I have found that most of their chicas have good social graces and don't have a hooker look to them. You would never believe that some of them are sex workers. The numbers to both agencies are in the Morelia yellow pages under "Masajes" or just do a search of this thread for previous posts of mine where I gave out their numbers. Both agencies are owned by the same person, but operate under different phone systems.

Have fun,

Mill

Wanted to inquire a little more about the "class" structure. I totally get you when you once wrote that some women aren't appropriate for "societal outings". It would be nice to go out and do something prior or after the "event". I guess I'm old school in that regard. I'll be studying up on my spanish in some structured classes for the first few weeks I'm down there then, of course, it's about keeping it fresh and I love talking to the chica's! A couple on either arm would be a sweet deal, but I'll start with one. Oh, and how are they with the age thing? Most likely it would bother me more than them--at least that's what they might say, but is it true? I mean the fact is Latin women are at their best in the twenties and only a handful seem to age well--regardless of class. I understand the "hard" life predetermines alot but even with those who have a privileged life the vintage look seems gloomy. So twenty-something it is. So what are some ideas for "going out" with an escort to do?

I'll be in touch later.

Eze

[Ezerider]

I've noticed you have a few hundred posts. Are you in the Morelia area? Can you name a place to get ones feet wet. A sure thing with minimum effort that has a face worth facing. Curious to hear your input.

Eze.

[Ezerider]

Wanted to inquire a little more about the "class" structure. I totally get you when you once wrote that some women aren't appropriate for "societal outings". It would be nice to go out and do something prior or after the "event". I guess I'm old school in that regard. I'll be studying up on my spanish in some structured classes for the first few weeks I'm down there then, of course, it's about keeping it fresh and I love talking to the chica's! A couple on either arm would be a sweet deal, but I'll start with one. Oh, and how are they with the age thing? Most likely it would bother me more than them--at least that's what they might say, but is it true? I mean the fact is Latin women are at their best in the twenties and only a handful seem to age well--regardless of class. I understand the "hard" life predetermines alot but even with those who have a privileged life the vintage look seems gloomy. So twenty-something it is. So what are some ideas for "going out" with an escort to do?

I'll be in touch later.

Eze

[Ezerider]

say mill, whassup? thanks for the reply--and so speedy. cool.

isn't the internet awesome? i used to gripe a little about all the new "technology" taking the "romance" out of travels. there once was a time you entered into a new town completely a foreigner. if you thought ahead any you might have a copy of the let's go series, but generally speaking you had little if any information to work with. there was something "pure" about the experience. however, i have come to embrace the resources now available to travelers as i realize "romance" is for suckers.

in any event, i should set foot on mexican soil the middle of this month. your approach seems aggressive and i hope i can keep pace with all your future suggestions. i feel like a virgin all over again.

mill, do you have any gals "first-timers" to suggest in the morelia area? or a place to grab a brew and chill with beautiful women creating the ambience? it's nice to know i will be getting reliable info. and won't have to sweat the small stuff. i'm a man that likes a good game plan.

send me in coach, i'm ready!

chillin' eze.

[Mill Just]

Hi Eze,

You are completely right about Morelia being a University city and that being a big boost to the escort scene (By the way, its also a big plus in the non-pro scene as well). I was once interviewed for an escort chica's class project after one of our sessions. Kinda tripy to be asked to help with the girl's homework after screwing her in almost every way imagineable.

Morelia is definitely an escort city with a good selection of girls at relatively low prices, minus all the extra hassle and cost of mongering in strip clubs. But deals can still be made at the strip clubs. Although I've been a bit harsh when talking about strip clubs recently, they are definitely an option and good deals can be made with the right strategy, right girl etc. But in my humble opinion, when factoring in chica drinks and the interview process for finding the right girl, you'll end up paying almost three times the amount you'd pay a similarly attractive escort for a session that will most likely be shorter and less "GFE-esque" than her escort competitor.

There are actually some escort that you can take on a date and not have to hide from the rest of polite society. I have dated strippers and most are very lacking in social graces while some are just plain obnoxious. The class factor goes a long way when wanting something other than a quick screw in a motel room.

Eze, if you're going to spend 3 or 4 months here, I suggest that you begin networking with quality providers from day 1. Being a known commodity and having a network of good chicas will go a long way toward getting consistantly good service from the chicas.

You're going to have a blast here. I have mongered in many Mexican cities and the girls from Morelia are the nicest with the softest way about them. Many are indistinguishable from "regular," non-pro chicas.

Ask away if you'd like any specifics.

Have Fun,

Mill

Whassup fellas and the occassional gal? New here and have enjoyed reading some of your posts. Pretty informative. I've been a frequent traveler to Latin American countries in the past, but these days it seems I spend more time in Mexico. To be precise, Morelia, at least, parts there abouts. I'm curious to hear from MillJust regarding where to start the search. I'm 41 and not bad to look at and would love to a GFE once or twice a month at least. Quality counts. Apparently I've been doing it all wrong in the past as I enjoyed visits to Strip Clubs, granted usually not getting good deals, but I like that Morelia is a University city and that young women looking for extra cash will be escorts. Plus, it works favorably that they do daytime calls. My nights will not be as available as I'd like for awhile. In any event, I'll be in that area for around 3 to 4 months and would appreciate any help you think worth offering.
later.